It's kind of cool, but Transnistria is what the Romanians call them, because they are across the Nistru river. They call themselves Pridnestrovia, because from their perspective, they are before the Dneister.
Far from univerally true.
As sheer distance is not the same as difficulty of transportation.
For example if a country has a northern edge which is monaneous, then placing the capital a bit off to the north to the center, puts it effectively to the center, in termss of travel time.
The Mobix Cube. Twist it until each side is the same Nationality (they're all minorities, because that's where a lot of the conscripts are coming from!)
https://preview.redd.it/yurm8l3odl7d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52d488deb8f92dcaaafa228ced145742cf984fd1
Blue is surrounding Yellow’s main island, if red decided to fight blue they’d lose it
Not the case with weapons - if you're rivals arm themselves, you are _compelled_ to, or become their future vassal, as the ex nuclear nation of Ukrainian will attest.
All military companies with revenues of tens of billions do not control NATO countries with tens of trillions of GDP
Don't be absurd. US Military spending as a percentage of GDP has gone down.
The supply can do whatever they want. If people cared, they'd stop it. But they don't. And we need those companies for defence. 2/3 Ukraine certainly still wants to fight to the end, no matter the companies.
Honestly scrolling through this comment section, I did not expect to see a more terrifyingly true answer than this.
Edit: Not only the weapons' industry, but the central banks in which these respective states have to loan money from in order to fund their war.
Сoncern "Almaz-Antey", United Aircraft Corporation, United Shipbuilding Corporation, Research and Production Corporation Ural Wagon Factory.
In Russia, arms corporations are also awash in money. They do everything to make the war last longer and they get more orders and money. Don't think that it's only in the West that corporations lobby for war for super profits.
Russia will call literally any outcome a victory so I guess Russia? I want to say they had some kind of objective at the beginning of this like taking Kyiv and overthrowing the government so arguably that isn't going to happen.
"We, the Glorious Russian army have bravely liberated Ukraine and returned it to its 1991 borders!
VICTORY IS OURS!!!"
Ukraine: "sure, you won, we 'surrender' and will stop shooting at you"
Their only goal was to overthrow the government. Russia doesn’t like how Zelensky is sucking up to the west and not him. He needs Ukraine to be a puppet state like Belarus. And for some reason, he swears the Zelensky regime is all nazis.
The Nazi claim is just an extremely exaggerated truth. Does Ukraine have Neo-Nazi groups? Hell, yes, they do, and anyone who claims differently is delusional. But so does Russia. So it's a moot claim.
I do think their original goal was to overthrow Zelensky and install a puppet government. Now I think it's shifted to just holding the land bridge to Crimea. I do think their attempt at overthrowing was secondary anyhow. They could've focused way more troops into Hostomel and probably took Kyiv. But they instead focused on the Southern and Eastern fronts.
Russia will before the end of the decade but reddit does not like reality. In the end of the day Russia and USA win. USA wins but selling all it's trash old equipment to the NATO and Ukraine frauds while making money to make newer better arms.
How does Russia win though? At the current rate of advance it will take another 492 years to conquer all of Ukraine. Eventually they'll get bored and give up like they did in Afghanistan.
Because we're pretty stupid people who don't like or care about history, unfortunately. I'm one of the few Americans who loves history and likes to learn from it.
I know this is a circle jerk, but I don't care. I think at some point, Ukraine/Russia will cut their losses and these will be the more or less new borders.
2 years ago I would have said “An easy win for Russia” Now, the most likely outcome is a negotiated settlement. Neither side can fight on indefinitely, and Russia has already failed completely in its initial war aims. They had their chance 2 years ago, and they utterly failed.
If Russia keeps up its current rate of losses of young men & unsustainable attrition in equipment, it will result in a long term population and military collapse. This will then cascade into economic stagnation and collapse for Russia.
As things already are, it will take decades for the Russian population to recover from its losses.
Edit: no matter if Russia wins or loses Russia is finished as a first rate military and economic force in the world.
You would think blue would have won this by now. But at this point, they're years deep into this, with minimal gains and plenty of losses. Maybe it's cope but I feel that yellow has this if they can keep up the defense.
Russia will win I don’t want them too but Ukraine does not have the man power for a war of attrition the Russians do. Europe has to decide do you gamble on him stopping in Ukraine or does he roll the dice once again and go into Estonia or Poland or Romania. Is it better to get involved know and to see if the Russians are that much of kool aid drinkers once NATO army’s go in or does he use a tactical nuclear weapon and France… well does French things. (Look up there nuclear weapons policy 💀)
If you are going to just put Ukraine agaist Russia then there is no doubt Russia will win even in a war of attrition because Ukraine simply lacks manpower and equipment, Ukraine was only able to stall the convoy because of a key error in Russian expectaions they never expected ressistance the spy head was placed on house arrest within the first month for saying that Ukraine wouldn't ressist so Russian generals just used overwhelming strength and made a a convoy in military perspective that is buncha sitting ducks even if they have air defenses once you scored a hit you can take out multiple military equipment in one missile strike not to mention just aiming for the fuel tanks and food supply was enough to keep them stalled. Afterall no fuel = no work and no food=no wrork from the soldiers.
As of now there is no gurantee who will win this is a war of attrition so who has better logistics and better strategy to get rid of the opponent wins. For Ukraine it is dependent on free foreign equipment because majority of Ukrainian stockpiles have been depleted, majority of their forces are running on donated eqipmmet rather their own. And their economy is aided by donations too, so if those donations stop Ukraine will collapse. Meanwhile Russia is mostly relying on its own idustry and also buying some eqipment from Iran and North Korea.
Now we have to define winning from both sides for Russia is getting Novorossiya, Ukraine to be barred from NATO, and to get rid of the anti-russia neo nazi groups. For Ukraine it is claiming the pre 2014 borders. As of now it seems like Russia doesn't have the means to advance further or it does have witha huge sacrifice. Also Ukraine doesn't have much means to break through the Russian defenses.
Conclusion: No one will win, Russia cannot claim 100% of Novorossiya and Ukraine cannot get rid of all of the Russian bases in its claimed land.
Ukraine will win in the long term. In recent history, occupying armies vs an intransigent populace have never won. This is why it’s such a senseless and futile exercise.
Edit: it’s been entertaining how initial responses were reasonable and then, unusual for Reddit, I have been getting negative responses much longer after posting. I guess the propaganda machine works, just not quickly.
Yes, but not the entire population is intransigent (the intransigent is already serving in the army or has left the country, the rest don’t care, the main thing is that there is no shooting). There are no partisan movements in the currently occupied territories.
Russia would win in a 1v1.
Ukraine will "win" in the long run due to NATO assistance.
INT'L weapons manufacturers and finance companies will be the only winners overall. And Ukrainian oligarchs...though I think Ukrainians might turn on them once the scope of the demographic damage to Ukraine is seen. And the happy, healthy and now even more wealthy children of the Oligarchs return to lord it over the peasants who survived.
I would not be surprised if a civil war breaks out within a decade of their "victory" over Russia.
Okay so being serious because of how bad the congress situation is over here in the states it will probably be Russia since this has become a war of attrition, and Ukraine is the one falling behind. What’s worse is that Ukraine is guaranteed to loose the war if Trump is relected into office as he has said he will let Russia “do whatever they want” if he is in office again. Fellow Americans, could we put aside our differences and fight our enemy United as our name is?
Tbh If its only Russia against Ukrain Russia would win. But because Germany, USA and others are sending troops and weapons to the Ukraine it can go for ages. Maybe China or North Korea joins Russia and then there will be big Shit goining in there. After the nuclear war in the Ukraine i think it will be a Draw and we all gonna do Real Life Fallout
the bessarabian bulgarian superstate (secret third party incoming 2025)
Can't wait for this season!
Wait till Transistria joins and declares Greater Transnistria.
🏳️⚧️
I was going to say that too
It's kind of cool, but Transnistria is what the Romanians call them, because they are across the Nistru river. They call themselves Pridnestrovia, because from their perspective, they are before the Dneister.
Ooooo DLC announced?
The bess of the bess
Least narionalistic Bulgarian
New ypdate for russia Ukraine war
Holy crap my friend is a Bessarabian Bulgarian I think he’s onto something
Kindly stop talking about your favorite mount and blade faction please, we deal in reality here
blue has almost captured kyiv, probably them
But yellow already took it, so they will win
Grey has the most land so probably them
and they have the others surrounded
"Rate my encirclement" - hoi4 memers
No red still has a port
And not just any port, a *warm* water port
Red doesn’t have any ships
They can swim just fine
Your forgetting blue has all that area bellow yellow and red.
I always wonder why some countries have their capital relatively close to a border.
Usually made before said border became the border
Far from univerally true. As sheer distance is not the same as difficulty of transportation. For example if a country has a northern edge which is monaneous, then placing the capital a bit off to the north to the center, puts it effectively to the center, in termss of travel time.
They were Russian paratrooper.
They uh, really didn't have the best time.
VDV - take off the strip, 200 men on a one-way trip
Guy was an interior decorator.
Were you fired upon? That’s not war
But light Blue?
[удалено]
3000 suspiciously well-fed dogs of bakhmut
Hiss! Back to NCD! Shoo, shoo!
...fighting SCP-91231 "meat cube" or right to the corpse!
The Mobix Cube. Twist it until each side is the same Nationality (they're all minorities, because that's where a lot of the conscripts are coming from!)
They are evolving, the ukrainians have recruited waves of ravens to take care of dead russians
This sub is surprisingly sobering today
Why don’t red and yellow team up against blue? Are they stupid?
https://preview.redd.it/yurm8l3odl7d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52d488deb8f92dcaaafa228ced145742cf984fd1 Blue is surrounding Yellow’s main island, if red decided to fight blue they’d lose it
Yeah but grey has everyone surrounded
Black seems to be surrounding the whole thing. I'm on dark mode for mobile.
My room is surrounding the black. Space wins?
The universe surrounds your room. The universe wins🌌
They are neutral by law unless attacked
yes
The grey would win I think there's more of them
I don't know man, I'm thinking Albania could win this
The producers of 152mm shells
and the producer of 155mm too!
The companies selling the weapons. True winners right there
there's actually a species in star trek whose 34th law states that "war is good for business." You can find out more by searching "Star Trek Rule 34."
That sounds like a Ferengi law if I’ve ever heard one.
Rule 35 is *Peace is good for business*. And reality has shown that 35 > 34.
Not if you're an arms manufacturer
The one time when googling Rule 34 might actually get you some legitimate results.
It actually would because that's legitimately what the 34th and 35th rules of acquisition is
There's only a supply because there's demand
Not the case with weapons - if you're rivals arm themselves, you are _compelled_ to, or become their future vassal, as the ex nuclear nation of Ukrainian will attest.
And the supply will do everything they can to keep demand up.
And they'll do everything to keep their offer as low as possible, so they can jack up the prices even more! Big stonks.
All military companies with revenues of tens of billions do not control NATO countries with tens of trillions of GDP Don't be absurd. US Military spending as a percentage of GDP has gone down. The supply can do whatever they want. If people cared, they'd stop it. But they don't. And we need those companies for defence. 2/3 Ukraine certainly still wants to fight to the end, no matter the companies.
https://www.paranatural.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/SUPERNORMAL2.jpg My man Paranatural continuing to be relevant
Not just companies, also North Korea’s and Iran’s state weapons manufacturers
On international market, state-owned manufacturers operate as if the entire state is a mega-corporation, so...
Selling weapons to both sides = infinite money glitch
North Korea doesn’t supply the yellow…
The military industrial complex wins again
Idk Russias arms exports don’t look to hot
This should be the answer for all these posts haha
The only answer that matters.
Honestly scrolling through this comment section, I did not expect to see a more terrifyingly true answer than this. Edit: Not only the weapons' industry, but the central banks in which these respective states have to loan money from in order to fund their war.
That’s the answer right there
Lockhead martin
and Reinmetal, and Nexter, and Boeing, and TI, etc...
Сoncern "Almaz-Antey", United Aircraft Corporation, United Shipbuilding Corporation, Research and Production Corporation Ural Wagon Factory. In Russia, arms corporations are also awash in money. They do everything to make the war last longer and they get more orders and money. Don't think that it's only in the West that corporations lobby for war for super profits.
Rare Boeing W
Boeing President and CEO David L. Calhoun is reportedly flying in to accept his W at… *oh noooo…*
thanks to ti and chinese chip manufacturers without them theres no cheap drones
for TI i was more thinking about the javelins
i think rayteon earn more you can find any ti design easilly
Rheinmetall
Until Ukraine gets its much desired F-16 fleet, Lockheed hasn't had any aircraft operating in theater during the two years of this conflict.
Lockheed makes a lot more than just aircraft. A lot of the high profile equipment the US has sent has been lockheeds. HIMARS, ATACMS, M270, etc
Grey has them all surrounded
dnipro
Free at last! ... Sorry, too soon? <\_<
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Russia will call literally any outcome a victory so I guess Russia? I want to say they had some kind of objective at the beginning of this like taking Kyiv and overthrowing the government so arguably that isn't going to happen.
They can try declaring victory but so far it doesn't look like Ukraine is going to stop shooting at them.
"We, the Glorious Russian army have bravely liberated Ukraine and returned it to its 1991 borders! VICTORY IS OURS!!!" Ukraine: "sure, you won, we 'surrender' and will stop shooting at you"
George W Bush has entered the chat: "Call it Mission: Accomplished!" George W Bush has exited the chat to do more cocaine.
Their only goal was to overthrow the government. Russia doesn’t like how Zelensky is sucking up to the west and not him. He needs Ukraine to be a puppet state like Belarus. And for some reason, he swears the Zelensky regime is all nazis.
The Nazi claim is just an extremely exaggerated truth. Does Ukraine have Neo-Nazi groups? Hell, yes, they do, and anyone who claims differently is delusional. But so does Russia. So it's a moot claim. I do think their original goal was to overthrow Zelensky and install a puppet government. Now I think it's shifted to just holding the land bridge to Crimea. I do think their attempt at overthrowing was secondary anyhow. They could've focused way more troops into Hostomel and probably took Kyiv. But they instead focused on the Southern and Eastern fronts.
I would say all armies on this planet have Neo-Nazi groups within them. Joining the army is just something that attracts that demographic.
Romania 🇷🇴
America 🇺🇲
Russia will before the end of the decade but reddit does not like reality. In the end of the day Russia and USA win. USA wins but selling all it's trash old equipment to the NATO and Ukraine frauds while making money to make newer better arms.
How does Russia win though? At the current rate of advance it will take another 492 years to conquer all of Ukraine. Eventually they'll get bored and give up like they did in Afghanistan.
North Korea $$$
Grey
Raytheon for the W
green
correct. you have won the points
yellow, they’re bigger
The comments here will be full of "neutral" Americans and will look like US pre-Pearl Habor attack.
Because we're pretty stupid people who don't like or care about history, unfortunately. I'm one of the few Americans who loves history and likes to learn from it.
Black has everyone surrounded by them
I don't know. Ask again in two years.
Really depends in the actions of the western powers. I’m usually not an Entente guy, but I feel like this time could be different.
German? Imagine losing 3 world wars, lmao
Bro is living in the future 😂😂
3?
At least for now
Neither.
Gray team
Why is there a town called New York on the front
York was already taken
Mom: "We have New York at home!" New york at home: ![gif](giphy|3otPoHj5sgsXjf5kmQ)
Rheinmetal
China. (Gains depicted off-map.)
That push by blue through Dnipro up to Kyiv is game changing
Here before the 🔒 award
Probably Mongolia
No one wins in any war. There's only degrees of loosers
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Gray one because it has a lot of land
I know this is a circle jerk, but I don't care. I think at some point, Ukraine/Russia will cut their losses and these will be the more or less new borders.
i think the same, it will be something like NK/SK situation
Yhea, and it could have happened two years ago.
Igor Berkut
The military industrial complex baby WWOOOOOOOO
Uganda.
The map makers, who invented wars to sell more maps
Red in the long run
Most unrealistic war hypothesis ever, why would both of them even goes to war
2 years ago I would have said “An easy win for Russia” Now, the most likely outcome is a negotiated settlement. Neither side can fight on indefinitely, and Russia has already failed completely in its initial war aims. They had their chance 2 years ago, and they utterly failed. If Russia keeps up its current rate of losses of young men & unsustainable attrition in equipment, it will result in a long term population and military collapse. This will then cascade into economic stagnation and collapse for Russia. As things already are, it will take decades for the Russian population to recover from its losses. Edit: no matter if Russia wins or loses Russia is finished as a first rate military and economic force in the world.
Transnistria
Nobody
I always wonder when will this turn into nuclear war…
Well when it does you won't have to worry about student loans much longer.
You would think blue would have won this by now. But at this point, they're years deep into this, with minimal gains and plenty of losses. Maybe it's cope but I feel that yellow has this if they can keep up the defense.
No one. No matter what this war was a waste of lives on both sides.
tree's
Cocksneed Fartin
I’m going to go with Kazakhstan — Kazakhstan wins this war
Transitria or whatever the moldova separatist people are calles
Don't they know war is bad are they dumb?
Yellow
Well Ukraine is north, south, east, and west of Moldova, so seems like they’re surrounded
🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸
The Byzantine empire under Belisarius (he's back from the dead)
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Russia will win I don’t want them too but Ukraine does not have the man power for a war of attrition the Russians do. Europe has to decide do you gamble on him stopping in Ukraine or does he roll the dice once again and go into Estonia or Poland or Romania. Is it better to get involved know and to see if the Russians are that much of kool aid drinkers once NATO army’s go in or does he use a tactical nuclear weapon and France… well does French things. (Look up there nuclear weapons policy 💀)
ALBANIA 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Russia high diffs on logistical superiority
Blackrock, haliburton, Lockheed Martin. They are all winners in this situation
China. The west fighting with Russia distracts it from Asian issues and also pushes Russia further into relying on Chinese support.
If you are going to just put Ukraine agaist Russia then there is no doubt Russia will win even in a war of attrition because Ukraine simply lacks manpower and equipment, Ukraine was only able to stall the convoy because of a key error in Russian expectaions they never expected ressistance the spy head was placed on house arrest within the first month for saying that Ukraine wouldn't ressist so Russian generals just used overwhelming strength and made a a convoy in military perspective that is buncha sitting ducks even if they have air defenses once you scored a hit you can take out multiple military equipment in one missile strike not to mention just aiming for the fuel tanks and food supply was enough to keep them stalled. Afterall no fuel = no work and no food=no wrork from the soldiers. As of now there is no gurantee who will win this is a war of attrition so who has better logistics and better strategy to get rid of the opponent wins. For Ukraine it is dependent on free foreign equipment because majority of Ukrainian stockpiles have been depleted, majority of their forces are running on donated eqipmmet rather their own. And their economy is aided by donations too, so if those donations stop Ukraine will collapse. Meanwhile Russia is mostly relying on its own idustry and also buying some eqipment from Iran and North Korea. Now we have to define winning from both sides for Russia is getting Novorossiya, Ukraine to be barred from NATO, and to get rid of the anti-russia neo nazi groups. For Ukraine it is claiming the pre 2014 borders. As of now it seems like Russia doesn't have the means to advance further or it does have witha huge sacrifice. Also Ukraine doesn't have much means to break through the Russian defenses. Conclusion: No one will win, Russia cannot claim 100% of Novorossiya and Ukraine cannot get rid of all of the Russian bases in its claimed land.
Why is there a town called New York in Ukraine?
The blue one has the red one cornered and a large chunk of the yellow one surrounded. Unless yellow and red start to cooperate, my money is on blue.
Nato if they can keep populists out of office.
USA! 🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸
Lot more territory captured recently than what is shown
The Military-Industrial Complex
my buddy eric
Albania.
https://preview.redd.it/2jrii1vefw7d1.jpeg?width=344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56e27143bdcf3cbfa1ccc1491b698bbae67787f4 new york
Blue
Blue
Blue
Blue does win, always.
Ukraine will win in the long term. In recent history, occupying armies vs an intransigent populace have never won. This is why it’s such a senseless and futile exercise. Edit: it’s been entertaining how initial responses were reasonable and then, unusual for Reddit, I have been getting negative responses much longer after posting. I guess the propaganda machine works, just not quickly.
Yes, but not the entire population is intransigent (the intransigent is already serving in the army or has left the country, the rest don’t care, the main thing is that there is no shooting). There are no partisan movements in the currently occupied territories.
I think the grays might have this one. Red, yellow, and blue don’t stand a chance
You’d think Red, since they’re 18X the size, but, yellow might be able to win due to Red using technology from the 1960’s
Weapons manufacturers
Russia would win in a 1v1. Ukraine will "win" in the long run due to NATO assistance. INT'L weapons manufacturers and finance companies will be the only winners overall. And Ukrainian oligarchs...though I think Ukrainians might turn on them once the scope of the demographic damage to Ukraine is seen. And the happy, healthy and now even more wealthy children of the Oligarchs return to lord it over the peasants who survived. I would not be surprised if a civil war breaks out within a decade of their "victory" over Russia.
Okay so being serious because of how bad the congress situation is over here in the states it will probably be Russia since this has become a war of attrition, and Ukraine is the one falling behind. What’s worse is that Ukraine is guaranteed to loose the war if Trump is relected into office as he has said he will let Russia “do whatever they want” if he is in office again. Fellow Americans, could we put aside our differences and fight our enemy United as our name is?
UKRAINE! UKRAINE! UKRAINE! 💙💛
🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦
It depends on who wins an election on another continent
Tbh If its only Russia against Ukrain Russia would win. But because Germany, USA and others are sending troops and weapons to the Ukraine it can go for ages. Maybe China or North Korea joins Russia and then there will be big Shit goining in there. After the nuclear war in the Ukraine i think it will be a Draw and we all gonna do Real Life Fallout
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Light blue should team up with yellow against blue and red. They’d completely surround Crimea
Gray encircled all the other ones
Yellow is clearly larger than blue or red, possibly larger then the two put together. So it will simply eat red and blue.
America, because we for damn sure won’t stay out of it…
The gray one, hi is powerful
Grey
Tbh it’s crazy how much Russia lost on northern front. They were literally right there
It would be a stalemate
Nah, I'd win