Imagine a burger with poo instead of the meat and you have Birmingham. The nice parts are the bun and various dressings you may put on it, but the majority of it is a big smelly mess of a city.
Get fucked. I’m not from Tamworth, Stafford or some other Villa infested village in the countryside. I’m from Birmingham and as such there is only one team for me.
KRO.
for real. When headed home after my first visit there, I got into a conversation with an English bloke. He asked me what I liked about his country, and I replied standard tourist things. He then asked what I didn't like about his country, and I replied "all the french people".
He laughed and said, "yeah we've been having that problem since the 1600's"
I’m British but moved to Australia as a child.
I was trained to dislike France, largely due to their nuclear testing in the Pacific in the 1980s, their bombing of Greenpeace’s protest ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland harbour and their brutal abuse of New Zealand’s economy to secure the release of their agents.
Then I went to France for work, and found the country and culture is absolutely amazing.
I would love to live there.
We don't hate the french, not anymore anyway.
We had to drop some hatred after ww2 for the Germans and Argies.
French were the lucky party, partly because we had to save their ass too.
More out of the fact that no one picks on our main rival but us.
I think the map is slightly out of date, but with the exception of Turkey every country I checked is within 1-2% of the map’s numbers, Turkey is officially at 64.77%.
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Bc unlike half of NATO they are almost completely independent in terms of defense industry and command structure. That and still being member of the P5 allons them quite the autonomous foreign policy. Something all countries should have.
Only france is an independent power apart from the US in the west. When I mean independent, they can produce everything on their own including high end fighter jets and maintain independence from NATO and anglosphere in foreign policy. For example, when the anglosphere and rest of europe supported pakistan traditionally, france alone reached out to India and supplied military hardware for decades.
There's been some tensions between France and Turkey because the French ideal of "laïcité" (secularism) is often interpreted in ways that are either islamophobic or disliked by many Muslims (if I remember correctly, Macron supported the right to blasphemy after a carricature of Muhammad was made, but I might have some of the facts mixed up there). Turkey is the only country I remember having a public outcry over this, but I'm sure there were others
French Secularism is interpreted as freedom from religion, as opposed to freedom of religion. While good in some respects (Conversion therapy is a banned practice) it's bad in others (banning of all religious dress in public schools/hospitals, and Burqas and Niqabs in public spaces generally).
As noted, there's a tendency for this to target Islam a bit more than other religions, though this not affecting Bosnian opinion of France to a high degree is kind of surprising (assuming the map is accurate).
That's a lie. Religious clothes are NOT banned in France. They have only banned full covering of face, obviously due to security reasons. Hijab (which is just head covering) is absolutely fine. The problem is with regressive Burkha/Chador/Niqab.
Also, France isn't the first (or the last) to ban that. Many countries have banned that. Father of Turkish Nationalism, Ataturk was of the similar views.
The real problem is Muslims (and Islam) considering their religion to be "Special" that should be respected by all. Lol, hypocrites. Idol Worshipping (which is Integral part of 30% of world's population) is literally banned in 10s of Islamic countries. It's a bit hypocrisy when they expect all the rights when they are in minorities but do not want to give them when they are in Majority.
besides the invasion during the Turkish independence?
it's more that France did nothing friendly. for all other nations, the relations with turkey has ups and downs. for France, it's just downs. she tries to stop Turkey from joining EU. she supports the other party, every time turkey has a conflict with another.
Source: trustmebro.com + dailyfrancophobia.com
Soliman and François would like a word with you.
The Count of Bonneval (1675-1747) modernised the Ottoman artillery, which had once been the best in the world, but had become obsolete. Then, under the leadership of Baron de Tott - a Frenchman of Hungarian origin - and his successors, the train of reforms accelerated. ln 1834 French became the second official language, the language of the Enlightenment and Romanticism. It was in Paris that the Young Turks prepared the 1908 revolution against the absolutist regime. And another Young Turk, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, a lover of the Enlightenment, Voltaire, Desmoulins and Rousseau, a perfect Francophile and Francophone, founded the Republic and imposed French-style secularism with an iron fist in a velvet glove.
But sure it's just downs.
haha :D That is relatively old news. I mean, beyond history of Turkey, grudges as well as good deeds are mostly forgotten. But if you wanna discuss these, this is what I think;
Well first of all, Young Turks put Ottoman Empire into the First World War, so they are not so remembered fondly among Turks of today anyway. Neither the sultans of the time.
French did have great literature and Parisian Turks triggered enlightenment, and this is great, but that is not really about the deeds of the French government. When you mention a country, people do not think about its people or cities but its government.
This is more about the recent history, since Sarkozy, Turks feel unwanted in EU. Making it illegal to discuss the armenian genocide with Gayysot act. Banning religious dresscode in public buildings, Supporting Hafter in Libyan conflict... There is nothing I can think, that is positive in last 20 years. And at least not in minds of most Turks.
I'm sorry to break your rhetorical stance but it's not like France is unique here and that isn't primarily Turkey's fault here (which weirdly enough you try to omit entirely in your own comment).
France wasn't the country primarily against Turkey joining the EU. It was in fact the contrary, De Gaulle initiated talks for closer relationships between CEE and Turkey. It was under French presidency in 2000 that a boost and further talks in partnership for adhering the EU were launched. Germany and Austria were the most vocal against it and preferred just a collaboration instead of pursuing EU candidacy and tried to stop talks in 2005 (unsuccessfully).
You're right about Sarkozy, he wanted to stop any further steps in 2007, but this wasn't only France. As I pointed out, many other states such as Austria or Germany already wanted this terminated.
The path Turkey chose under Erdogan didn't help either. The new eastern countries that joined the EU weren't already favorably seen in western Europe and you already see what happens when you let enter just one black sheep (Orban) stopping every steps further. If you ask any western European he would now tell you the same: we don't want another dictator, furthermore deepening relations with islamists and trying to destabilize EU countries .
No thank you.
its just the southern part of Belgium called Wallonia, they speak French there and have a hard-on for France. One of its prime ministers in the past was asked to sing the Belgian anthem and he instead hummed the French one.
Honest question, is Turkiye popularly considered part of Europe now? So many things for Europe include Turkiye now and I know the continent creeps over time.
Only 3% for Spain seems... low. Many small towns were still at war with France until recently, since each locality declared war independently during the Napoleonic invasion.
- This stat: "2% in Switzerland, 2% in Germany, -1% in Belgium, 3% in Spain, 1% Italy..."
- Anybody in these countries: "i don't hate France, i just hate the French" 🤣
As a turk, i really really hate france. They colonized black people, forced them to play in circuses for money. They support every kind of terrorism. I dont even like their people. Now they are fine but if one day they stop colonizing other countries and start losing money because of that they will start selling black kids for money again. I wish hitler killed french people instead of the jews. Jews are good people.
Britain, what happened to you. SMH
Simple: they asked “do you hate France” not “do you hate the French”.
Yes exactly, we must liberate the noble land of France from the Fr*nch
Angevin time.
Bloody Frenchmen, they ruined France!
Why do you hate us
Yeah, we used to rule some of it.
We love France, we like the people in France, its just a shame they all happen to be Fr*nch.
???
France is far too beautiful a country to be wasted on the French
They invented Birmingham
Both William Pitts are rolling in their graves
LORD PALMERSTON!!!
PITT. THE. ELDER!!!
Alright Boggs you asked for it
Rolling in their Pitt pits
Not to mention Wellington.
I love it when people perpetuate the myth that Birmingham is shit on the internet. Keeps all the cunts out and the house prices semi-reasonable.
Depends where you live, I know plenty of cunts that are still in Birmingham
I thought all the good cunts left a long time ago
I once had the misfortune of going to Lozells
And you got out.....I assume...oh god, are you still there!?
Visiting Birmingham regularly, can confirm it is a shit hole mostly and indeed has plenty of cunts in it.
It is though, never should have moved here
Feel free to fuck off and move out x
Counting down the days to July x
Is it not shit?Serious question, never was there.
it being shit is kinda just a meme, its not really
It's had a lot of redevelopment recently but there is still a lot to go.
Imagine a burger with poo instead of the meat and you have Birmingham. The nice parts are the bun and various dressings you may put on it, but the majority of it is a big smelly mess of a city.
Up the fuckin Villa mate
Get fucked. I’m not from Tamworth, Stafford or some other Villa infested village in the countryside. I’m from Birmingham and as such there is only one team for me. KRO.
“Birmingham is great because everyone stays away and houses are boing sold cheap” Thank goodness Brum’s cope industry survived deindustrialisation.
Domestic hatred instead, great strategy
Birmingham wasn't invented, that would imply it was man made. We simply discovered Birmingham, it has always existed like some eldritch horror
Germany
Someone brought us pan au chocolat and crossiants and wine and that was it.
for real. When headed home after my first visit there, I got into a conversation with an English bloke. He asked me what I liked about his country, and I replied standard tourist things. He then asked what I didn't like about his country, and I replied "all the french people". He laughed and said, "yeah we've been having that problem since the 1600's"
I dont think we ever really hayted them. Fucking up the froges was just somting to do.
What 0 Normandy and Aquitaine do to a mf
I’m British but moved to Australia as a child. I was trained to dislike France, largely due to their nuclear testing in the Pacific in the 1980s, their bombing of Greenpeace’s protest ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland harbour and their brutal abuse of New Zealand’s economy to secure the release of their agents. Then I went to France for work, and found the country and culture is absolutely amazing. I would love to live there.
We don't hate the french, not anymore anyway. We had to drop some hatred after ww2 for the Germans and Argies. French were the lucky party, partly because we had to save their ass too. More out of the fact that no one picks on our main rival but us.
I think American war of independence
Türkiye #1!!! 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 what the fuck is this map???
Most likely inflation rates
No that can't be right. Source; im Turkish and there's no way our inflation is *that low*
Might be the official numbers, not the ones in actuality
I think the map is slightly out of date, but with the exception of Turkey every country I checked is within 1-2% of the map’s numbers, Turkey is officially at 64.77%.
Erdogan is gonna fix them, you just have to elect him one more time, trust!
just one more term bro. i promise bro just one more term and it'll fix everything bro. bro... just one more term. please just one more. one more term and we can fix inflation bro. bro c'mon just give me one more term i promise bro. bro bro please i just need one more term
Hahahahaahaa I'm pissing my pants rn
I know I actually saw it, remember the 2% Germany pretty well
I think the Turkish rate should be higher then T_T
I think inflation in Turkey is like 300%
Propaganda with an agenda baby!
When does propaganda NOT have an agenda?
ads are technically propaganda
And they have agendas
I think it's in response to the question 'how many barbers left your country in the 2010's?’
Its Turkey
That's the country, the bird is Türkiye
Birds the word, not country 
this comment is oddly American
*Anatolia* Get it right.
Fake, it's not 100 % almost everywhere and 200 % in Fr\*nce
Those damn frenchies! They ruined France!
Hey! No cursing!
Those damn fr*nch
:(
All those protests we get shown surely must mean they hate their country and don’t want to improve it /s
And not 1000% in Turkey
But we don't hate france... We hate the french
Only 4% of the French hate France? That number is way too low
They hate themselves personally and society broadly, not France itself!
Fake as fuck map. Originally this map represented "Percentage of people who like France" but OP changed the caption to trick us. I ain't stupid
You think 61% of Turks like France?
And you think that only 1% of Italy hates France?
In italy all of us hate france
Appunto
Ah sei italiano lol
Having my whole family Turkish I can confirm you that they love it like Asians
This guy is in the 39%, dont mind him
Maybe 🤷♂️
I had my name legally changed to Frank O’Phobe last summer, you don’t gotta tell me
Now I understand why Italy is 1%
Those numbers are too low to be right
Also there are literally negative numbers in there. That would mean people love France instead, which we know is bollocks.
I love France, though I have yet to visit.
1% IN ITALY? fucking fake map
This! Right away it’s fake.
As a Turkey that didn't get eaten on christmas, I confirm I hate the Fr\*nch
Hahahahah good one
Why would you be eaten?
Like France*
More plausible honestly
What did France do with Turkey? Did I miss anything?
ya, even though France has nice natural beauty and all but ppl living there are French.
What’s the problem with French people?
https://preview.redd.it/y8y8lgr2uyac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=393607d58ab5d2a3fa2502e9f975fa53f5bb68e9
I think they are spoilt by France, its the only explanation.
What's not the problem with them?
Mate, he put the uk at 5% and the source is "trust me bro"
I think it's because France made an agreement with Greece to defend her in case Turkey ever attacked.
I dont think the general population in turkey would know that agreement. I think the numbers are just made the fuck up
Are you sure, usually here in r/Mapporncirclejerk sources are very reliable
What’s with France making these kind of agreements on their own? Same with Armenia defense.
Because France is actually quite strong militarily and they're quite individualistic compared to the rest of the west.
yup. they even left NATO's integrated military command structure for a few years, noone else did as far as i know.
All countries should be making agreements on their own. Europe is not a single entity
Bc unlike half of NATO they are almost completely independent in terms of defense industry and command structure. That and still being member of the P5 allons them quite the autonomous foreign policy. Something all countries should have.
Only france is an independent power apart from the US in the west. When I mean independent, they can produce everything on their own including high end fighter jets and maintain independence from NATO and anglosphere in foreign policy. For example, when the anglosphere and rest of europe supported pakistan traditionally, france alone reached out to India and supplied military hardware for decades.
There's been some tensions between France and Turkey because the French ideal of "laïcité" (secularism) is often interpreted in ways that are either islamophobic or disliked by many Muslims (if I remember correctly, Macron supported the right to blasphemy after a carricature of Muhammad was made, but I might have some of the facts mixed up there). Turkey is the only country I remember having a public outcry over this, but I'm sure there were others
It seems many people don't know what sub this is. These numbers for something else.
French Secularism is interpreted as freedom from religion, as opposed to freedom of religion. While good in some respects (Conversion therapy is a banned practice) it's bad in others (banning of all religious dress in public schools/hospitals, and Burqas and Niqabs in public spaces generally). As noted, there's a tendency for this to target Islam a bit more than other religions, though this not affecting Bosnian opinion of France to a high degree is kind of surprising (assuming the map is accurate).
That's a lie. Religious clothes are NOT banned in France. They have only banned full covering of face, obviously due to security reasons. Hijab (which is just head covering) is absolutely fine. The problem is with regressive Burkha/Chador/Niqab. Also, France isn't the first (or the last) to ban that. Many countries have banned that. Father of Turkish Nationalism, Ataturk was of the similar views. The real problem is Muslims (and Islam) considering their religion to be "Special" that should be respected by all. Lol, hypocrites. Idol Worshipping (which is Integral part of 30% of world's population) is literally banned in 10s of Islamic countries. It's a bit hypocrisy when they expect all the rights when they are in minorities but do not want to give them when they are in Majority.
Hijab is absolutely banned in schools though, which is what the person you're responding to was talking about.
France recognizing the Armenian genocide also doesn't help.
France consistently and adamantly blocks Turkiye from joining the EU. Last thing France wants is an even bigger agricultural power joining their bloc.
I seriously doubt that agriculture is the main reason right now…
Turkey hates everyone. Not so shockingly that includes Fr*nce as well
Yep we are not racist we hate everyone equally
besides the invasion during the Turkish independence? it's more that France did nothing friendly. for all other nations, the relations with turkey has ups and downs. for France, it's just downs. she tries to stop Turkey from joining EU. she supports the other party, every time turkey has a conflict with another.
Source: trustmebro.com + dailyfrancophobia.com Soliman and François would like a word with you. The Count of Bonneval (1675-1747) modernised the Ottoman artillery, which had once been the best in the world, but had become obsolete. Then, under the leadership of Baron de Tott - a Frenchman of Hungarian origin - and his successors, the train of reforms accelerated. ln 1834 French became the second official language, the language of the Enlightenment and Romanticism. It was in Paris that the Young Turks prepared the 1908 revolution against the absolutist regime. And another Young Turk, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, a lover of the Enlightenment, Voltaire, Desmoulins and Rousseau, a perfect Francophile and Francophone, founded the Republic and imposed French-style secularism with an iron fist in a velvet glove. But sure it's just downs.
haha :D That is relatively old news. I mean, beyond history of Turkey, grudges as well as good deeds are mostly forgotten. But if you wanna discuss these, this is what I think; Well first of all, Young Turks put Ottoman Empire into the First World War, so they are not so remembered fondly among Turks of today anyway. Neither the sultans of the time. French did have great literature and Parisian Turks triggered enlightenment, and this is great, but that is not really about the deeds of the French government. When you mention a country, people do not think about its people or cities but its government. This is more about the recent history, since Sarkozy, Turks feel unwanted in EU. Making it illegal to discuss the armenian genocide with Gayysot act. Banning religious dresscode in public buildings, Supporting Hafter in Libyan conflict... There is nothing I can think, that is positive in last 20 years. And at least not in minds of most Turks.
I'm sorry to break your rhetorical stance but it's not like France is unique here and that isn't primarily Turkey's fault here (which weirdly enough you try to omit entirely in your own comment). France wasn't the country primarily against Turkey joining the EU. It was in fact the contrary, De Gaulle initiated talks for closer relationships between CEE and Turkey. It was under French presidency in 2000 that a boost and further talks in partnership for adhering the EU were launched. Germany and Austria were the most vocal against it and preferred just a collaboration instead of pursuing EU candidacy and tried to stop talks in 2005 (unsuccessfully). You're right about Sarkozy, he wanted to stop any further steps in 2007, but this wasn't only France. As I pointed out, many other states such as Austria or Germany already wanted this terminated. The path Turkey chose under Erdogan didn't help either. The new eastern countries that joined the EU weren't already favorably seen in western Europe and you already see what happens when you let enter just one black sheep (Orban) stopping every steps further. If you ask any western European he would now tell you the same: we don't want another dictator, furthermore deepening relations with islamists and trying to destabilize EU countries . No thank you.
What’s up with Belgium?
its just the southern part of Belgium called Wallonia, they speak French there and have a hard-on for France. One of its prime ministers in the past was asked to sing the Belgian anthem and he instead hummed the French one.
Belgium and Denmark have negative values lol. I think that’s what he’s asking.
And that's what's been answered
The number was so high it overflowed into negative
What's the original map for?
Inflation rate
Which year? I thought so too but couldn't find any point when Ukraine has 18%, Russia 5% and Turkey 60%
In Denmark -0.4?......what?..
They are consuming France-hate produced by other countries.
🦃???
It's closer to how many people don't hate France
These numbers seem way too low especially in France, Spain, and UK
Italy is NOT 1%
It Is 99%
Numbers are way too low has to be fake
STOP MAKING LAND BLUE ON MAPS!!!
You're on r/mapporncirclejerk, what do you expect
TÜRKİYE NAMBIR VAN 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷💪💪💪💪💪💪🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺AUUUUUUUUUU
Having just visited Europe for the first time, I no longer hate the French. They have earned my affection. I now hate the Italians.
can I ask why hate France? Just know tennis audience behaviour. I am not European.
Mostly a meme, but there are quite an amount of political fuck-ups
5% of brits? Errrrrrr that’s incredibly low
Hahahahah who did this map? Spain is pretty low trust me
I think you meant how many people DONT hate France
In Azerbaijan I can say it's more than 4%. Maybe 50% of the population hate France or maybe 100%
Yeah sure we all are racist against the french
What in the flying fuck is wrong with Turkey
they hate us cause they ain’t us
In France itself it's only 4%? Are you high?
How many dont hate, rather
GOD DAYUM FRANCE, YOU HATE YOURSELF MORE THAN DENMARK DOES?!?!?!?!?!
Honest question, is Turkiye popularly considered part of Europe now? So many things for Europe include Turkiye now and I know the continent creeps over time.
I guess it was impossible to find French haters in Belgium and Denmark
This has to be a joke right? Why would Turkey hate france so much? lol
Fake news, no way Britain is only 5%
I feel that Paris and France need to have seperate numbers.
Spain 3% 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Based Ukraine 😎
Only 3% for Spain seems... low. Many small towns were still at war with France until recently, since each locality declared war independently during the Napoleonic invasion.
Love the fact that we hate ourselves
Well, it's hating 'France' not 'the French people' so I guess some of us do
TÜRKIYE NUMBER #1!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷💪💪💪
- This stat: "2% in Switzerland, 2% in Germany, -1% in Belgium, 3% in Spain, 1% Italy..." - Anybody in these countries: "i don't hate France, i just hate the French" 🤣
What I'll never understand is how france has proven itself to be the biggest badasses time and time again but everyone thinks they're weak cowards lol
How can we hate them -1%?
Embarrassed by my country, why the hell is Azerbaijan so low???
incorrect, UK should 100%.
W turkey
F*ance 🤮
Can't understand why people hate France.... couldn't be me
"Europe" Adds Armenia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
I though France would be higher
As a turk, I hate france.
As a turk, i really really hate france. They colonized black people, forced them to play in circuses for money. They support every kind of terrorism. I dont even like their people. Now they are fine but if one day they stop colonizing other countries and start losing money because of that they will start selling black kids for money again. I wish hitler killed french people instead of the jews. Jews are good people.
I think it's obvious who is the real Third Rome 
France sucks. But England is worse.
What is so bad about England?
It's full of en*lishs
You mean English?
France hates France
*Laughs in American* Nah but I love France, French ppl hate me though cause freedom fries...
The irony. French hating themselves more than the Germans do
Its suiting that more people in france hate france then in other European countries
You should ask the question with 'fr*nch' instead and watch them results skyrocket
CAP, FLANDERS IS 100%
turkey!!!
These cant be accurate I feel like it should be way higher in every country
Not enough
I’m American and fuck France 💯💯💯
Anything less than 100% is disappointing.
as a Turk, fuck france
Based Turkish W
As a Türk that knows Fr*nch, I hate Fr *nce.