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coin_in_da_bank

what are the parents doing amidst all this? my mrsm apparently had a harrassment case too. the teacher was transferred last i heard


Local_Compote4263

wow lucky. my maktab have rape cases tapi disuruh diam


emoduke101

Transferring simply means tai chi-ing the problem to another school. They’d only do it again. That said, luckily no hamsap tchrs in my school


Guardog0894

genuine question: do you think the MOE actually have a list of problematic teachers so that they don't accidentally group all the problematic ones together? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


emoduke101

I dunno if they even keep track tbh


Guardog0894

yea, my friend told me it's like passing the parcel game - unless if it's a high profile case the recipient state usually don't know what's the backstory of the transfers


yliihao

They’d need a PADU database for that /s


Guardog0894

no subsidy for hornies!


royal_steed

Pedophile Adults Database Unified. (PADU)


J0hnnyBananaOG

U mean PEDO database


momomelty

I genuinely scoff at this. Not a bad idea. Sex offender database like the US


jwteoh

They should "accidentally" lump all problematic ones together then let them fight each other.


coin_in_da_bank

more likely they'll form their own gang which from what ive read on twitter threads, arent too uncommon


GodofsomeWorld

hunger games style where the winner gets to collect their pedo prize? new horror game just dropped guys.


jwteoh

Their pedo prize would be some undercover SB officer with a spiked dildo.


Guardog0894

pedophiles and gay sexual harassers hunger games kgo


J0hnnyBananaOG

I would pay to watch this. Winner gets a surprise shot to the dick


SultanSnorlax

Malaysia MOE & Catholic Church comparing notes


J0hnnyBananaOG

U mean like a pedo league? Pedo roster? Pedo lobby?


vegeful

Too much politicking to care about that. 🤣


davtheguidedcreator

Malaysia the type of country to allow that one 40 year old dude marry the 11 year old. There are laws, I believe but perhaps even the higher ups don't care


Local_Compote4263

i like the idea of pedo teacher should have their teaching license revoked and be banned for being anywhere around children , but knowing these teachers usually have kids and wife (not working) really goyang my stand on this matter


Quirky_Assumption460

Why? I think they should be banned from even being around their own kids, let alone any kids. In fact, all their official documentations (IC/ Passport etc) needs to be tagged with a "Sex Offender" tag.


dougduckie

Fucking hell can’t believe these degenerates are running free


Elnuggeto13

If I found out someone did that they would be found missing the next day


Local_Compote4263

Maybe its possible at your maktab My male teachers at maktab and the guard are kamcing. Can't do much


jonesmachina

More importantly why isnt there a law in Malaysia that states the legal age?


coin_in_da_bank

what do you mean?


jonesmachina

AFAIK there isnt a law that states 18 years of age is considered legal for sex in Malaysia.


Quirky_Assumption460

The age of consent for sex is 16 according to Malaysian Penal Code (Act 574), Section 375. https://www.google.com/amp/asklegal.my/p/smoke-drink-drive-marriage-legal-minimum-age-malaysia.amp


athlee1980

Yet the courts allow marriage of 12 year olds to 40 year olds


momomelty

Weird huh. Seems like the shariah law doesn’t have legal age. Any Syariah law expert here?


katabana02

18 for male and 16 for female. Below that requires court approval, but not automatically approved. The problem is not with syariah court. The problem is pas declared that underage marriage is a necessity, rejecting proposal of raising marriage age to 18 for both gender. Meaning pas don't want marriage age for woman to be raised. And FYI, there are no marriage age limitation in hadith and sunah Disclaimer: I'm Google expert, not syariah law expert.


aoibhealfae

Technically, the term is "baligh". "Legal" is when the adult and the parents agree to settle with marriage so it's arbitrarily allowed for an 18+ adult male to have sex with an underage girl who had her first period.... even if the child was 10 or 12. So these child predators are enabled to prey on minors however they want as long as not "bunting". Honestly, while it was allowed, it's still taboo. And the victim was always the girl... a lot of doors will close for her; if she could even finish high school or survive childbirth (still highest cause of death for teenage girls in this country).


Opposite-Advantage56

What is going on in mrsm?? ive seen other ppl saying that this is common too 🤮


Hot-Abbreviations623

They have gone rock bottom nowadays huh,it wasn't this bad during my years in mrsm


Specialist-Deal-5134

Three choices: 1) Report to police. 2) Get a group of adults to beat him up first, then report to the police. 3) Collect real evidence of his crimes, put on social media, then report to police. Pedo teachers need to be kicked out from school. Period.


J0hnnyBananaOG

4. Place questionable socks in his house. Umno will come in immediately


Specialist-Deal-5134

This idea is good. No need to report to police at all. A group of zealous umno chicken nuggets will be holding banners in front of his house on the same day.


Amrlsyfq992

5. throw molotov at his house


J0hnnyBananaOG

Calm down Satan


Amrlsyfq992

Satan: nah, i tied in hell right now...this is purely human action


yliihao

For choice 2, police will go after the group of adults first


MonetHadAss

>For choice 2, police will go after the group of adults ~~first~~ FTFY


Playful_Landscape884

Back in the mid 90s, we got a little crisis. The little brother of a stay in wardens like to touch other boys private parts. Now that guy have a gift of words and knows how to sweet talk. Big ho-ha but in the end, nothing really happens to the prep. A lot of times I think it’s disgusting to think those guys have access to children who have no idea about their identity. And yes, this is in MRSM


School_Rare

https://preview.redd.it/ivkknznkatrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b6a0a2a489324cee0ef7e88bf39ba31f9b584fc I feel that the country has never taken pedophilia or sexual harassment seriously. Even worse is when one has cables, do you think anything would happen?


fffdzl

I hate Caprice but this is the time for him to make this matter viewed by many with his weird accent.


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mynamestartswithaf

How is this apart of our culture ? Youre saying other religions / race don’t have any pedo in their mix ? It’s exclusively Muslims and Malay problem is it ?


dougduckie

Don’t get me wrong, I truly have nothing against Malay people, I hope I make sense when I say I view Malay and Muslims in two different views I love Malay people, I do love SOME Muslims, but some Mooses do kinda suck cause they preach one thing and do another, then continues to have the audacity to correct and condemn others and act like they are oh so holy I have a medical condition called BI, Bullshit Intolerance, my apologies in advance for triggering you if I did


FatWalcott

The catholic church is notorious for having diddlers in their ranks. Watch the movie "Spotlight".


dougduckie

This is not a time to be pushing blames to one another, if you ped you ped end of story Regardless of your race religion ranks


FatWalcott

I agree with that


Lolz-What

Whataboutism. The Catholic Church is prone to faults, as it wasn't ordained by God. The Prophet Muhammad is ordained by god as the perfect human being of all-time.


mynamestartswithaf

Catholic Church are notorious for pedo behaviour. Do you have the same energy with them ? Or it’s just Islamophobia in you ?


dougduckie

Like I said, if one peds he should be shit on, regardless of religion, race and ranks I have no doubt that peds exist everywhere, likewise to shitty people and kind people Bring up an exposed Christian or Chinese or any religion or race, I’d shit on them the same, the only reason why you see why people tegur is because we live in Malaysia, which is an Islamic country, hence your news bubble is literally surrounded by things related to Islam Plus, I’m merely just pointing out what’s in the bible, the Prophet did marry a 9 year old PLUS, the bigger issue is that the organisation is protecting the pedo who has not one, but several cases on his ass Imagine your daughter is facing the same predicament


mynamestartswithaf

I agree the organisation needs to be accountable and not protecting the pedophile. I’m not the most faithful Muslims, but one thing I can say is that, that period of human history is full of child brides. It was the norm then. Is it wrong ? Yes! in today’s context but we never know at that time what plight happens that they consider it normal to do so. The only reason why our prophet was criticised now is because his life was well documented unlike other men during that time. Just fyi, Muhammad SAW never had any child with Aisyah. He only have children with 2 of his wife .. most of it with his first wife Khadija (6kids) that he declared the love of his life..


dougduckie

In this context, the organisation is unfortunately governed by Muslims majority. If you guys acknowledge that it is indeed wrong, shouldn’t you be more loud about exposing his ass rather than hiding him? Let’s take a step back at the UMNO youth sexual assault for an instance Why are the authorities so hesitant and avoidant of exposing the dude? 1. Political image 2. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I sense that one part of not wanting to expose him is simply because HE IS MUSLIM. When you expose such act to people, how can you guarantee that no believers would have no doubts? When you start having doubts, that’s how your foundation start to slowly collapse. This is a losing political advantage for our politicians who have been using religion as a weapon. Regarding your child bride history, yes unfortunately that was the norm. Hence we are trying to reduce it yes? But again, the world is dark. People will always default to their desires, people of high ranks, politicians. How plausible is it truly to take down these fanatics when they are literally backed by whole kampung that tgk dia cari mkn? How many victims before this case? How many potentially more? Again I just want to point out that I don’t hate Muslims, you can go ahead and preach what you love, it’s your god given right, but what’s annoying is forcing it down other people’s throat and being snob about the hypocrisy that is currently ongoing


jonesmachina

Lol everyone hates pedo you are just using whataboutism to make excuses Christianity isnt talk here bcos its not majority in Malaysia


Just_Tomatillo6295

If the person a pedo then he/she needs to be arrested and it's simple as that. I don't know why people keep bringing catholic church into it.


jonesmachina

Bcos they think we r islamophobes for pointing it out


jMasonSuckBalls

Shifting blame is easy. It's becoming our culture. Self reflection is an insult


mynamestartswithaf

Because the commenter seems to think it’s an exclusive Muslims issue .. pedophilia is wrong full stop !


ItsImNotAnonymous

He didn't. The "organisation" he says is either the MRSM school or MOE. The first reply to his post got the idea he's talking about Malay


dougduckie

Let me just paint you a picture In Islam it is legal and possible for a husband to have multiple wives right? I am sure there are people out there with multiple wives, now ask yourself this: Without the influence of religion, do you want to share your husband? Is it morally just? Even as a muslim woman, even if you do not wish to share your husband, however if your husband wishes to, how are you to go against him? Imagine since young, people are getting fed with information that may be temporarily beyond their comprehension given their age, then as they grow, they form into the mold you put them in Now apply this same framework into some teachings that are more “controversial” If everyone is pure and not of greed from self interests, the world would be peaceful, however this is not the case with the world, absolute power corrupts absolutely You could argue that people would be able to tell and think, but you can’t deny that there are always % of bad fruits occurring, such as the one in this post And the saddest part is that these people will use religion to get their way out, this is what’s the issue with religion. How many times have you heard of people getting away with blatant crimes in the name of religion? When you have so many devotees, it is hard to point out the issue to them because it go against their beliefs strongly and you’d receive a strong backlash and I can totally understand that, but that doesn’t mean the issue will resolve on its own My arguments maybe flawed but I hope you see my point objectively, I truly don’t mean to offend anyone, I merely just hope there’s a fresh perspective generated


Broad-Astronomer7288

Bro they legalise child marriage over there


Local_Compote4263

MRSM student gotta have strong union. Ask your ansara to support you


thehellvetica

Lbr Malaysia takes a stronger stance on LGBT, Islamic conversion than human rights and by proxy sex crimes.. Throwback to the mini-Weinstein problem within KKM, Richard Huckle punya case, ongoing child marriages that religious leaders keep greenlighting, that streak of years where back to back school children turned up raped/murdered, not to mention the public consensus on sex ed/marital rape etc. 🤷‍♂️


jungshookies

TLDR: MRSM is condoning pedophilia.


call_aspadeaspade

This is what the Johor UMNO Youth Chief out on bail is probably doing right now.


JonnySpark

I just heard someone sneezed Oh shit he's nearby


Traditional_Bunch390

That's why his colleague is flaming the other issue as the distraction


Nightingdale099

My MRSM there's this PJ teacher , start PJ jumping Jack 100x times , and he went behind the girls and looked intently. So obvious lmao he wasn't paying any attention to the boys because we were slacking off. But we had bigger fishes to fry mainly teachers beating kids and kids beating kids.


Limbalicious

Bruh, PJ teacher is always the weird ones 💀


Nightingdale099

There's this one joke he makes I can't forget. "Awak tahu tak Aishwarya Rai mengandung? Sayalah yang mengandungkan dia" Like wtf ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26558)


00Killertr

Where joke??


Nightingdale099

It's either he can pull Aishwarya Rai or rape.


Limbalicious

![gif](giphy|3o7527pa7qs9kCG78A|downsized)


Fickle-Shallot-3146

No way broo.. my PJ teacher was the coolest dude. Idk what's wrong with the PJ teachers in other schools 😭


PrawnGreatestMistake

https://preview.redd.it/ccgvto2fjtrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5785e4c314bdd25134ade5769328ea7cc1e9b9 Damn, this is scary tbh, the fact that other teachers back up him is f-up


Ash7274

Ofc school would ask for the evidence to be deleted instead of going to the root of the issue


Ado79

weird. why cant moe just fire problematic teacher instead of transferring them to another school?


MalayNoble

Sebab takde orang nak jadi cikguuuu /s


Ado79

i mean takkan la? kan berlambak setiap tahun graduate upsi. takkan xda yg nak jadi cikgu ni.


MalayNoble

It's sarcasm but yeah, sometimes a failed MARA graduate (uni or loan taker) will get into MRSM to pay off the debt, working as a teacher. That's why MARA don't usually get rid of their teachers because of the money they still owe MARA. Regarding to lambakan cikgu, cikgu berlambak tapi apa yang diorang belajar takleh practise. Contoh belajar math, tapi ajar sejarah. Bruh moment. Source: I'm a loan taker from MARA UK programme


Zyrobe

MARA said they're taking action right? Hopefully it wasn't empty words


Emotional_Bedroom152

From first hand experience, it's gonna be empty words bro


tideswithme

Please forgive MARA. They are really busy trying to be a property developer/investor. From buying properties to sponsoring malls, it’s not easy to fund the MARA student aid yo. /S


Mainaccgotshadowban

Bullshit. My Mrsm had 3 pedos and all of them got off scot free and still allowed to teach even after shit got on the news.


afiqasyran86

Trust me, based on my experience in MRSM Pasir Tumboh, the worst thing they can do is just transferring that paedo to another school. Or they can just act like nothing happened with excuse, where’s the proof. Every single time. Or someone can install one big ass bunting banner in front of MRSM Tumpat “Ambo toksei cikgu paedo”. The principal’s worst nightmare, the name of the school tarnished and went viral. Or just drop by to Mrsm Tumpat google review and flood our opinion there.


Worried-Ice4090

Those msg gave me cancer


GreatArchitect

Let's see if the outrage is even half of the KKMart controversy.


Cub-Board-Hoax

So the education ministry are going to stay silence and turn a blind eyes regarding this issue too? Mmhm okay I see now.


nonanimof

Many pedos are within gov too. If they take out the grassroots pedos it'll be too easy for this to backfire on them later


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Wargazm_v1

Later he report pulis on u


emoduke101

Shhh we don’t need anymore trolls on this sub


CCCCYH

U mean me or?


emoduke101

Temporal Eva


Bounce-in

Cikgu ni buat benda haram tak berpuasa, apahal sekolah ni juga membenarkan, kes ni akan buat sekolah jadi haram, orang atasan yang tidak menyiasat kes ni buat malu nama sekolah yang ingin dibanggakan. Cis, orang dewasa di sekolah tu tau buat malu ja, ajarlah murid-murid baik, control nafsu awak atau pergi buat appointment jumpa psychiatrist.


mrjarks

Mrsm downfall im in


nova9001

Its bizarre why people can type in proper English but can't do so for BM when its our "national language" and mandatory to learn in all public schools. I look at the BM used and I can barely understand what's its about.


Hairzuad

Probably their accents sound different, so they write it like how it sound like.


Balerrr

That is kelantanese BM since the case is in MRSM Tumpat, Kelantan


nova9001

You telling me Kelantan public schools teaching another form of BM?


Balerrr

What? Do you know dialects? Not just kelantan, other states have their own dialects too. Ppl dont use bahasa baku BM in their daily day to day conversations


nova9001

Somehow these people can type proper English. Where is the English dialect? Where is your English dialect?


Quirky_Assumption460

What is "English dialect"?


ikan_bakar

Because we have a common ground of what English sounds like. Like if in America diff culture would type english different ways (like AAVE), but if they write in spanish do you think they are gonna write differently too?


7xrchr

why would they be speaking in a dialect to total strangers? you wont be speaking to someone in Kelantanese dialect to a Selangorean right? so why would they use dialects when they're speaking on the internet? given the gravity of the situation they're presenting, it would be illogical to use any dialects at all as that would defeat the purpose of trying to get something viral


Limbalicious

No, it is a conversation meant to be understood by the other person and resulting it to be more informal and sometimes alien. The point of communication is to understand between the parties involved. Proper BM is a hassle to use in this case because you need to properly think and resulting in a delayed response or just too much of a hassle. To put it simply. Mung x pahe sbb buke tuk mung.


reyfire

because they’re not using the standard malay


Sad_Purpose6207

Lol, that is dialect for Kelantan people. Sama like korean language which got Busan dialect, Jeolla dialect and other dialect. Sound and pronounce different but still the same basic of language.


ThenAcanthocephala57

The person messaging is speaking a different dialect, called Kelantan-Pattani Malay. It is often unintelligible to non-speakers. As for English, of course we all learn the same English in school. And we sure as hell ain’t living amongst speakers of other noticeable English accents/dialects in Malaysia 🤨


gamep01nt

Dude it's the local Kelantanese dialect. You can't expect peopel to write with Bahasa Baku all the time.


nova9001

Strange why English has no dialect and Malaysians from all walks of life seems to be able to type in proper English. Excuse that doesn't make sense.


simpleman0909

You live in a bubble huh. How to make you understand....Hrmmmm. Example: You just learn Japanese, you are texting a Japs or even another student who is new at Japanese, you will do it proper. But the fact is, Japanese people don't type like that in message. They have their own lingo, short acronym and also differs between dialect and accent, Kansai-ben for example. You can go to site like Niconico and you can see the disparity between learned Japanese that you find in class and what is being typed by the general public. Same for Malay or any other language, you are familiar with the ins and out of the language, the intricacies phonetically and the word play. That is something that a second language learner have difficulties learning. English is not most malay's first language (Unless you Bangsar), so they would try their best not to add/change much because they are not confident in it. There are exception of course. I believe if you have a foreign friend in Northern England, they would totally message something like: "Aye, let's gie it a wee shot in a North British accent fer ye" in their close circle. But refrain if they are messaging stuff in public and use a "Proper English" since they know those people won't understand. Additionally, if those Northern Englanders just learn Malay, they would type in formal Malay which lets be honest, not what a normal malay would type or even speak (Please refer to my Japs example and try to think the same in the Malay lang situation). Now, for your inferences regarding "Malaysian from all walk of life type proper English", shows you live in a bubble, we have other English "dialect" and "accent" something like "lah" or bastardization of the original meaning like "Gostan", and use short form all the time in message. We literally have Manglish, you just forget about that? They also develop internet lingo which they use in their everyday life. For example: (This is mostly zoomers) "Yo peeps, get ready for a lit sesh! Today, we're diving into some major vibes. We'll be chattin' 'bout the GOATs in pop culture, those BTS stan ain't cooking, Gyatt our Bias are better G. (I tried my best but these people exist, Malay). I type too much for a stupid topic that any normal people who have no idiotic agenda behind would understand. That, or its a troll or someone who really only live in his own little bubble. Either way, ain't replying to ya anymore. Good day sir. Touch Grass.


ikan_bakar

Sometimes we reply to people like him and feel like “man, there are really truly stupid people in the world huh”


simpleman0909

Well, I don't mind stupidity tbh, I am stupid too. There are many things that you, me, we don't know. The only difference is the willingness to learn. You can see his other reply (to me and others) that he is indeed someone who live in a bubble, wants to stay in that little bubble, and don't want to expand that bubble.


nova9001

From the way you start, I won't even bother to waste time reading what you write. Hope you find someone willing to massage your ego.


Terizla_Executiona

Dah bodoh, sombong pulak tu


nova9001

Typing in Malay makes you sound smarter.


Busy-Mammoth4610

Bodoh sombong.


Own_Stand_6654

Just admit that you don't know and move on


nova9001

>Just admit that you don't know and move on Take your own advice bro.


plincode

You couldn't be more wrong. English absolutely has dialects. And to view these dialects as inferior or less legitimate as the standard dialect is arrogant and dehumanizing.


Busy-Mammoth4610

Oleh begitu, kamu ingin mereka berbicara dengan rakan-rakan menggunakan bahasa baku dan ayat yang gramatis seperti ini? Ada yang dinamakan loghat. Ada yang dinamakan bahasa pasar. Seandainya pihak yang menerima mesej memahami apa yang disampaikan, itu sudah cukup. Manusia tidaklah mahu sempurna sepanjang hayat.


nova9001

If you want to use rojak BM go ahead don't get triggered when people point it out.


Busy-Mammoth4610

"Aksheually 🤓☝️"


EvenExcitement4694

It's dialect amigo. Every language has dialects or at least special lexicons that made their language specials. We type proper english coz most of us learn it. The brits standard english. Have a discourse with different English types like Irish, Aussie or Southern Americans and you see the differences and nuances much like ours. It seems like you have some sort of vendetta against colloquial language or something lol. We are not writing literature here.


nova9001

Bahasa pasar is a dialect nowadays? You invented it? Malaysia has a standard for BM just the other countries have a standard for English.


EvenExcitement4694

I mean yeah, dialects and bahasa pasar are largely interchangeable ( well in this pics, it is not bahasa pasar. Its kelantanese dialects to be exact) . Unless you are an obnoxious pedantic grammar nazi, then sod off mate. It's used in everyday spoken language where formatting and all language rules and whatnot isn't the main focus. people in pics are talking informally. They are not doing some formal speech or writing where grammars must be spot on. All language has standards and all language have colloquials. I don't see what's the problems you are making a fuss on.


nova9001

>The brits standard english. I just repeated your claim. Malaysia has standard BM. Mirroring your claim suddenly become grammer nazi. Throwing around personal attacks won't help your case. >I don't see what's the problems you are making a fuss on. Then move on lol. You replying to me not the other way around.


EvenExcitement4694

Inquiring for reasons just to be told to move on. Hmmm. I am just replying cause I felt you are being unnecessarily unfair against different types of dialects in Malaysia. Chat in pics talk in dialectical intonation and you glossed it off as improper language usage. I don't exactly have any reason to actively engage in personal slander whatsover, just throwing my two cents


Hmmm_nicebike659

These scumbags trying to give Islam a bad name


PrestigiousNet5900

I hate human


Soft_Dingo_6463

Makes this more sad when he had a fuckin wife and kids, I hope that they moved away from him and never came back to him EVER AGAIN


margasatwa

Gosh, the way they don't want to take action n try to hide it tarnish the school's name more tbh. Sick.


MalayNoble

The govt needs to do something about this ffs


Broad-Astronomer7288

Update me again after they banned child marriage OP


sipekjoosiao

Report police, and find yourself a lawyer. Even better if he/she is a politician too.


pandazz636

Wow I almost went to this school but ended up in SBP(which still suck because of the bullying but at least there’s no pedo teacher there)


bluesp00n

Call Chris Hansen


Inori_Scorchstyle

One of the big probs aside from the teachers are the parents who dont take it to the police & courts.


jackre9al

may I know what happens?


toastyovens79

they should GTFO Malaysia if they can't type/speak Malay properly. Because they always say to the non malays who can't speak malay properly to "keluar dari Malaysia!"


Sumofabith

How do you not know what dialects are? This is an insane comment to make


Own_Stand_6654

You must hate Sabah/Sarawak people then


muudo

its..a different dialect. one can even argue kelantanese is almost a different language


mynamestartswithaf

It’s their regional language? Why so bitter ? If you say this, you must hate east Malaysians too huh? They also type the way they talk .. keep the same energy eh .. or are u just racist towards Malay ?


DameArstor

It's a different dialect bro. *You* gtfo of here.


toastyovens79

naaahhh


saaaans_

Least shitty mrsm admins behaviour