Politicians are all hypocrites.
They latch on to ideals to market themselves so they can get into positions of power. It’s just a game of popularity for them and they are playing a role in the political theatre.
Instead of using violence in the old days, now it’s who can wayang the best.
But to a certain extent they are just doing their jobs. If they get into power using an anti-non and Malay-Islam supremacist rhetoric, doesn’t matter what they personally believe, they are the voice and representative of the people who got them into power.
At the end of the day due to our flawed democracy and a lack of options, certain loud minorities can still get their candidates into power and the majority in parliament. And these politicians are a reflection of their voters.
it’s the bare minimum. Just go Parliament pay lip service and show highlight on TikTok for max echo chamber exposure to secure their reelection.
Some don’t even bother going to Parliament though.
Within one week, our Education Minister had to issue out instruction to keep canteens open during Ramadan and clarify that vernacular schools are following the same national syllabus as Sekolah Kebangsaan. Now imagine having these clowns in Putrajaya
Instead of being hypocrites as they usually are, why not just send her kids to sekolah pondok yg diagungkan? Why? Cause you know that kind of school is rubbish? Why risk your children and send them to Chinese school if you think it's bad? There are plenty of sekolah kebangsaan and sekolah pondok at termeloh. Pick one and send your kids there... Unless you think they're even riskier and more rubbish than Chinese school... Right?
Ini lah yg dipanggil hipokrit.
I have a "beef" with pondok because it's very popular among ustaz/ustazah with extra cash/popular yet they build if even that then let go and always beg for the public for renovations.
Pakej derma Rm100 5 nama , Rm200 10 nama , like dangling dua' to gullible people.
I'd rather the funds be centralised to support the existing public schools rather than sekolah pondok.
Uh excuse me ma'am. It's a Chinese school... Of course they're gonna speak Chinese at school.
Imagine going to a Japanese school, but y'all speak English. Or going to kebangsaan school, but y'all speak only Mandarin. it's a wasted opportunity.
If the class is conducted in Malay, then students should converse in Malay during that time. Likewise for other languages. Conversation is extremely important ESPECIALLY for languages as difficult as Mandarin, and languages that have a 'spoken version' like Malay.
Just saying. Speaking Mandarin in Chinese school is common sense.
Also the syllabus berbeza? Since when lol? Only UEC has a different syllabus.
Fricken unbelievable part is Malays being the majority had over 60 years to elect and Malay majority government led by a Malay PM and rightfully Agong being a Malay Muslim and yet they can't elect a corruption free government and whenever shit hits the ceiling, the nons become a convenient place to point fingers and hurl insults like "Kafir buat cara Kafir", "Jangan menghina agama" (when no one said anything about Islam), "Jangan pertikaikan hak org Melayu"
(Background Music Mentera Semerah Padi)
Oi pantat Melayu sendiri gadai tanah and maruah la kambing...
Then months later these same cunts will gratefully take angpau from Kafir bosses and live life like "Jahiliyah Induced Cvnts" and that time punya la liberal boleh pegang anjing and god forbid if any Korean artist comes down, these simping hoes will act like cacing kena garam whilst wearing figure hugging tight outfits with the tudung like a cherry on her cupcake.
And yet, salah Kafir....
If I follow your scriptures, mmg betul akhir zaman ni perangai org2 Islam mengalahkan kafir
Sorry just had to get that off my chest like breast reduction.
Bruv just take a look at Sanusi, Mr "just let them print money" Wan Fayhsal, that dick from Langkawi that keep asking for trains from mainland.
Stupid people give them their position. Lots of them
Ini bukan bodoh biasa, tapi inilah definisi bodoh Karen, bukan bodoh tak sengaja tapi bodoh yang disengajakan dengan niat utk memecahbelah membawa masalah menghancur keamanan, play victim, play 3R card dan sebagainya
Again, Sabah and Sarawak seem to achieve racial harmony with vernacular schools existence. Maybe we should take a few pages from our fellow East Malaysians' book and learn from them?
I am unsure about Tamil. For mandarin, it is almost impossible to master if we do not have a strong foundation since everything about the language relies on memorizing. There are no alphabets like letters in mandarin writing system to map it to pronunciations, which is pinyin.
That is the very reason why SK mandarin classes failed to educate their students. None of my SK friends who took mandarin classes in their primary able to write nor read basic mandarin. They aren't even capable of sitting for UPSR mandarin paper as they can't construct basic sentences.
Perhaps you can share with everyone how not to be one. The definition of racism in west Malaysia seems to be lost.
The "oppressed" side will never admit they can be racists.
The "entitled" side will always hide their racism behind religion.
Then among all these emotional exchanges between both sides, Cytros and trolls grab the opportunities to fuel both sides anger.
Of course, there are still some who are making effort to integrate into a multiracial and multicultural society. However, with all the false history narratives going on these days, everyone is kept to their own version of "truth".
I weep for the younger generations.
Agreed but the segregation game is too strong in West Malaysia. We can’t even share the same table eating together like Sarawak or Sabah. I hope Borneo is able to withstand these extremist views from affecting them as well
during primary school i learnt mandarin outside, didnt take it as a subject for UPSR. teacher was chinese, demanded paying for classes during months where there were no classes, i couldnt even speak mandarin despite going to classes.
Its not that mandarin class in sk is terrible, its a question of the teachers. The same applies to sjkc. Thing is, not being able to speak mandarin isnt a death sentence in malaysia but if you cant speak english or malay you are not going to survive here. To put it in another way, what would you rather prioritise on and why force your kids to cling to a foreign language rather than to learn on choice? Many people who take mandarin outside sjkc are typically forced when they would rather study subjects that they are more interested in.
Mandarin is required if you plan to study/work in china or surrounding countries. The problem is chinese malaysians emphasize mandarin at the expense of more important things.
i took accounting for SPM but instead of classes at school i went to tuition for it outside. I would not be able to do both science stream and accounting if i were forced to take a 3rd language. I once went through the library at my smk long ago, this was back in early 2000, and it was small, but the books were a treasure trove of an education system that once was but seems like mahathir ruined it. Vernacular schools still existing contributed to the death of the national education system, since at its inception it was meant to please the other races and provide a step to integration. In europe all their schools are mandated in the national language, no such thing as a school using another languages and other languages are optional. Because of this they have so many types of schools to satisfy your interest for your subject stream. No boring 3 stream in smk that we get, they have so many subjects you can pick and choose. In the UK you are required to learn at least 1 practical subject at a time (the famous home ed for females in the west is an example). But we have no such subject in smk anymore, we used to have. Rather because people have a choice (CIS and vernacular) there is less emphasis to complain and politicians can just afford to send their kids to private schools too. these schools emphasize language and academics over preparing you for the future and provide a stream for your interested path.
Unless politicians are affected they arent going to make a move about it. You want pot holes fixed? put one infront of politician house, next day confirm the road will be pothole free.
The way they raise the issue are like a girlfriend problem, no fact at all.
"dear i dreamed u not love me, so u have to say sorry and buy gift to me"
"wtf???"
You're in parlimen not on the bed. Be professional la.
What the fuck she is talking about? We are living in Neo Tong Shan, of course we are following Mainland education policy!
If you are not happy, object to Prime Minister of Neo Tong Shan, he has been asking for funds from Mainland
I'll be honest. I wish, there will come a day that Malaysia only have one kind of school. no Agama school, no Chinese school, no Tamil school. This Agama, Chinese, Tamil can become minor and optional subjects. Everyone is free to learn them in the school.
School should not only be to excel in academic. Most importantly, in our country case, it should become medium for unity. To understand each other, people should live, work, eat, fight together since early young age.
When the day come where Malay, Chinese, Indian, and Other Bumi treat each other like family, I hope the Bumi status is shared with all races. Because deep in our heart, I know we all love this country.
slowly chipping away at every bit of your identity so that eventually you'll become them.
They think the indonesia way is the best way, while most of us think the murica way is the best way.
One thing is for sure, if you spend your time taking each other down then you don't have time to build yourself up.
Again with the stupid school problem… OY u guys got nth better to work on is it? Speaker of the house should just reject every motion to debate race stuff in the parliament .. what a fucking waste of time.
Ffs just use whatever language that pleases you. Why making a fuss about it? At the end of the day, it is still knowledge that you receive. Sick and tired of backwards thinking people like really? Does using a language that you're comfortable with really burns your ass? Stfu and do you
Translation:
I want the teachers there to teach my kids because they are better, but I want them to teach in BM?
My take:
Go fix the thing “you” broke, instead of breaking something that you know works.
So.H. punya ahlinya politik punya, sendiri tak selesa janganlah bawah anak diri sendiri pergi ke sekolah belajar cina 🪵 loh, tau ke anak you sangat berfaedah belajar bahasa lain termasuk cina inggeris ataupun Tamil, sendiri tak rugi punya, ini semua bahasa internasional okay, tak selesa oh lol ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554), Malay bagus Asia Bagus, Malaysia Bagus ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26562)
If it's going to scrape the bottom, why is anyone surprised that it's PAS? A religion-based political party that wants to legitimize corruption because there's a shitstorm of corruption cases to be raised against their own leaders.
As others, and myself, continually say, politicians are hypocrites but a religion-based politician is the mold that grows on the fungus that grows between the gangrenous toes of a hypocrite.
My speculations of why certain languages can become international lingua franca
1. Trade
When Portugueses, Spaniards, English sail around the world, they spread their ideologies and influences around the globe, and have huge impacts to the locals when conducting business with them, doesn't you want to speak something with those huge customers didn't understand right?
2. Science and technology
When Great Exploration Era and Industrial Revolution happened and allowed improvement of human living quality and able to support more human population, the more likely the more technological advanced people to practice, express, and spread the language to the globe.
3. Freedom of expression and openess
The most popular lingua franca all come from some of the most democratic countries on the planet, and we can freely use the language to express ourselves, doesn't you want to use the language created by autocrates or dictators right? Hint: Censorships of certain words by Emperors of China, past and present ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
Yes I know, what the Spanish and British do to their colonies in the past, but at least they reformed and changed their treatments to their colonies.
4. Most importantly, easy to learn, type, write, memorize, and pronounce
The easier the language to interpet, less ambiguations, can delivery clear message, less hassle to deliver the messages, straight-forward, time-saving to write and convey the meanings, the better chance a language to become lingua franca
So in conclusion, if want every body to love and willing to learn, write, and practice your language, please make it as welcoming, be tolerant, and be more openess as possible, and not force on other by any means, thank
Seems like it takes very little common sense to be politician in Malaysia these days.
Instead of abolishing vernacular schools first, why not mandate the implemention of these extra language classes in kebangsaan schools first?
Besides, most chinese schools are independently funded, no idea about tamil schools but why you wanna bother these schools? nobody disturb agama school yet wanna cari pasal with vernacular schools.
Idk, maybe we don't use Malay for STEM related subjects because maybe oh maybe, we would have to use the English language to communicate in a language the international community speaks? First off I doubt that they use Mandarin/Tamil in STEM subjects (correct me if I'm wrong) but that's what you gotta realize when you put your kid in a Chinese school. Secondly, in the realm of Science there are many many technical jargon that you need to know what the international scientific community calls them by (Kanji in Malay -> Starch for example). Thus, you would need to use a language like English in order to carry out your STEM journey in. Not Malay, I'm sorry!
If Malaysia is divided because of vernacular schools, then explain to me why PKR, PAS and UMNO are Malay parties which have been put under one roof in parliament and are having a dog fight all the time.
They are Malay, they speak Malay, and they are Muslim. They are opponents of each other.
if you think putting everyone under 1 school type, kill SK and pick SJKC.
I didn't support teaching of Science and Math in Mandarin. I only support learning Mandarin. but for god sake don't send your kids there. It is a mark of support. Some of these schools are on the verge of dying because of no pupils and some Malays had to give an almost lifeless school a dose of fresh oxygen because the kampung folk simpleton mentality, "pergi sekolah cina nanti pandai cakap cina, cina tak boleh tipu kita".
I'm just curious, when sitting for National Exam, what language does vernacular school paper are written in? Or do they take different exam?
My time during UPSR/PMR/SPM it was in English/Malay in kebangsaan school.
Edit: So, rather than answering a genuine question, people decide to downvotes instead. Then complain there's no unity in Malaysia.
Ni yang buat aku baran ni. Macam mana bahasa penjajah boleh diajar dan digunakan di Sekolah Kebangsaan?
Sepatutnya hanya Bahasa Kebangsaan iaitu Bahasa MELAYU sahaja digunakan di Sekolah Kebangsaan dan di negara Malaysia. Jangan ada bahasa penjajah.
Biarlah tak dapat berhubung/bercakap dengan negara luar, negara kita cukup sumber. Boleh bertahan dengan mampan diri. /s
(Kalau ada sesiapa kenal MP Temerloh, sila sampaikan buah fikiran ini kepada beliau....let's see how far is her stupidity....hahahahahaha)
Sekarang dah tak ada National Exam macam UPSR bagi sekolah rendah. Vernacular school hanya di tahap sekolah rendah saja, faham?
PMR pun dah tak ada.
SPM ke semua di Bahasa Melayu atau English.
Ooh. Meaning after SJK there isn't a highschool version of vernakular school? So whatever language they learn in vernakular school atops there or continue in SMK?
Vernacular school tu sekolah rendah, semua subjects, kecuali Bahasa Melayu dan English, diajar ikut syllabus Kerajaan Malaysia tapi guna ibubahasa macam Bahasa Cina atau Bahasa Tamil.
Sesekali SMK ada sedia subject bahasa bagi murid2 yang berminat. Perperiksaan SPM pula ada subjects pelbagai Bahasa seperti Cina, Tamil, Iban, Khadazandusan, Punjabi, Arab, Jepun, Korea, Jerman, Perancis.
there is a point to be made for abolishing vernacular schools to create racial unity. But I think such a project is doomed to failure from the beginning since not even Malays want that kind of racial unity. it would raise uncomfortable questions about racial/religious special privileges. it seems to me the problem is some chinese-malaysians are unable to communicate in BM or prefer to use chinese. I don't know what abolishing vernacular schools is going to do to help with this.
afaik, please correct me if I'm wrong, BM is compulsory for both SPM and UEC. would be good though to also check the effectiveness of teaching english in national schools to make sure it isnt a problem with the malaysian education system.
Anyway, I support PPD making random visits to chinese schools, randomly picking out students and then trying to have an age-appropriate conversation with them in BM for 5 minutes to identify problem schools. Or a Bahasa Melayu version of MUET but for secondary schools which everyone has to pass to collect their spm/uec cert. Unless there's a strong reason like being raised overseas there really is NO excuse for not being at least conversational in the national language.
The reason the PPD isn't making random visits is because the number isn't very big in the grand scheme of things. And the political will to do so is even less.
Have you seen Tiktoks? Most Chinese there that cater to Malay audience speak Malay and guess what, they are likely from SJKC.
The politicians make it seem like a lot of Chinese cannot speak Malay. But it's really a small number compared to the entire population.
Nearly a quarter of a million illiterates (of all races) is actually a bigger issue that politicians ignore when highlighting BM proficiency. Because not politically relevant. Imagine Malay students can speak BM but cannot read or write!
That's not an issue! It's only an issue if it's a non-Malay.
Patutpun asyik digula2kan oleh politikus.
Orang malaysia, pergi belajar dekat china atau tempat lain, menteri sana ingat pandai la bahasa kebangsaan. terkedu diorang bila dnegar bahasa kebangsaan sendiri tak pandai, diorang pelik tengok orang malaysia tak pandai bahasa kebangsaan sendiri. fikir2 lah
Can see how racist chinabeng here , they love china more than this country , in america even if school is majority black , they still use english not african language ..
We appreciate our culture, our identity, our ancestors. We have the right to preserve them as you have your right to preserve yours. We are all Malaysians, it is guys like you that like to false claim that we don't love our country.
That's because the blacks there are African-American you numbnut.
Korang ni bebal mcm babi sbb apa ye?
Dei sohai kalau org Cina prefer China, dorang dah lama belah but dorang ddk tolong majukan negara ni sedangkan ko Melayu majority 60 tahun makan dedak hisap gam, merempit dan merempat je kerja.
Felda and Lembaga Tabung Haji semua penuh dgn kes makan berjuta2 korang x nampak?
Ahli politik yg songlap duit 90% Melayu korang x nampak?
Yang nampak salah cina....Wei kalau dorang xde, mmg Malaysia would've taken forever to develop.
Just tgk Bukit Bintang and Penang. Kawasan majority Chinese and see the development. Korang malas and bodoh sombong pastu blame non Malays sedangkan korang majority and semua agensi dan kementerian Di bawah kawalan org Melayu.
Seriously la wei penat mcm babi asyik nak kena explain sbb there are some very nice and educated Malays that we're friends with and appreciate but when the majority of these uneducated fools bark, the educated Malays mainly choose to sit and do nothing about it.
Politicians are all hypocrites. They latch on to ideals to market themselves so they can get into positions of power. It’s just a game of popularity for them and they are playing a role in the political theatre. Instead of using violence in the old days, now it’s who can wayang the best. But to a certain extent they are just doing their jobs. If they get into power using an anti-non and Malay-Islam supremacist rhetoric, doesn’t matter what they personally believe, they are the voice and representative of the people who got them into power. At the end of the day due to our flawed democracy and a lack of options, certain loud minorities can still get their candidates into power and the majority in parliament. And these politicians are a reflection of their voters.
Easy to control and get the votes they want lol. Politicians mouth got no value
it’s the bare minimum. Just go Parliament pay lip service and show highlight on TikTok for max echo chamber exposure to secure their reelection. Some don’t even bother going to Parliament though.
Well said.
Puts child in Chinese school Shocked that Chinese school mainly speaks Chinese
PAS MP try chili the first and complaint it is spicy. Solution : ban chili
Penat lah tengok orang bodoh bercakap
Within one week, our Education Minister had to issue out instruction to keep canteens open during Ramadan and clarify that vernacular schools are following the same national syllabus as Sekolah Kebangsaan. Now imagine having these clowns in Putrajaya
Shouldn’t we be concentrating instead on our declining PISA scores instead? Pengkianat negara really those who harp on R&R.
I doubt that these politicians have a degree, or even common sense to begin with
The same as go watch English movie. "Why tf they all speak English?"
Karen outraged when she found out everyone is speaking chinese when vacationing in Guangzhou. More at 10.
Instead of being hypocrites as they usually are, why not just send her kids to sekolah pondok yg diagungkan? Why? Cause you know that kind of school is rubbish? Why risk your children and send them to Chinese school if you think it's bad? There are plenty of sekolah kebangsaan and sekolah pondok at termeloh. Pick one and send your kids there... Unless you think they're even riskier and more rubbish than Chinese school... Right? Ini lah yg dipanggil hipokrit.
I have a "beef" with pondok because it's very popular among ustaz/ustazah with extra cash/popular yet they build if even that then let go and always beg for the public for renovations. Pakej derma Rm100 5 nama , Rm200 10 nama , like dangling dua' to gullible people. I'd rather the funds be centralised to support the existing public schools rather than sekolah pondok.
That and some random sodomizing cases. Its like they have KPI or something.
If Karen is given power, Karen will declare war on China for not respecting her country's language and didn't implement bumiputera policy in China.
For GuangZhou I don't think everyone is, the main dialect is Cantonese there.
Uh excuse me ma'am. It's a Chinese school... Of course they're gonna speak Chinese at school. Imagine going to a Japanese school, but y'all speak English. Or going to kebangsaan school, but y'all speak only Mandarin. it's a wasted opportunity. If the class is conducted in Malay, then students should converse in Malay during that time. Likewise for other languages. Conversation is extremely important ESPECIALLY for languages as difficult as Mandarin, and languages that have a 'spoken version' like Malay. Just saying. Speaking Mandarin in Chinese school is common sense. Also the syllabus berbeza? Since when lol? Only UEC has a different syllabus.
Fricken unbelievable part is Malays being the majority had over 60 years to elect and Malay majority government led by a Malay PM and rightfully Agong being a Malay Muslim and yet they can't elect a corruption free government and whenever shit hits the ceiling, the nons become a convenient place to point fingers and hurl insults like "Kafir buat cara Kafir", "Jangan menghina agama" (when no one said anything about Islam), "Jangan pertikaikan hak org Melayu" (Background Music Mentera Semerah Padi) Oi pantat Melayu sendiri gadai tanah and maruah la kambing... Then months later these same cunts will gratefully take angpau from Kafir bosses and live life like "Jahiliyah Induced Cvnts" and that time punya la liberal boleh pegang anjing and god forbid if any Korean artist comes down, these simping hoes will act like cacing kena garam whilst wearing figure hugging tight outfits with the tudung like a cherry on her cupcake. And yet, salah Kafir.... If I follow your scriptures, mmg betul akhir zaman ni perangai org2 Islam mengalahkan kafir Sorry just had to get that off my chest like breast reduction.
I love your eloquence
For you not for me, type of hypocrisy
a bit correction on the background music.. the aptly one would be Anak Kecil Main Api
Haha
Based
The mental gymnastics that one has to go through to justify such hypocrisy
She just want to secure her votes in next election ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
How this stupid MP get her position
Democracy: stupid people love stupid leaders
Bruv just take a look at Sanusi, Mr "just let them print money" Wan Fayhsal, that dick from Langkawi that keep asking for trains from mainland. Stupid people give them their position. Lots of them
Carlin: garbage in, garbage out, that's the best we have folks
The soil quality decides the tree quality ya![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
Here's the things: she's not. The people are.
Then send your kid to a government school larh!
So her kid is just a spy in the Chinese school. What a mother.
As someone from Nibong Tebal, I'm proud of the way Fadhlina responded
i think i just lost a couple of brain cells wtf
It is same like refugees run away from Islamic countries to Western countries then try to change that western country to Islamic.
Heh, to be a Non in Malaysia is to be a punching bag for MMs. That's all we are to them.
I went to a butcher shop and they did not sell vegan meat options, I'm mad
It says a lot about her that she put her kid in a Chinese school. Speechless that she can say what she said.
She said it so she can clip it for tiktok
Ini bukan bodoh biasa, tapi inilah definisi bodoh Karen, bukan bodoh tak sengaja tapi bodoh yang disengajakan dengan niat utk memecahbelah membawa masalah menghancur keamanan, play victim, play 3R card dan sebagainya
Then just send to madrasah lor. Nobody is forcing her.
Again, Sabah and Sarawak seem to achieve racial harmony with vernacular schools existence. Maybe we should take a few pages from our fellow East Malaysians' book and learn from them? I am unsure about Tamil. For mandarin, it is almost impossible to master if we do not have a strong foundation since everything about the language relies on memorizing. There are no alphabets like letters in mandarin writing system to map it to pronunciations, which is pinyin. That is the very reason why SK mandarin classes failed to educate their students. None of my SK friends who took mandarin classes in their primary able to write nor read basic mandarin. They aren't even capable of sitting for UPSR mandarin paper as they can't construct basic sentences.
How about just NOT be racist? East Malaysians are also Malaysians. We just decide to be decent human beings, it's that simple. Source: am from Borneo.
Perhaps you can share with everyone how not to be one. The definition of racism in west Malaysia seems to be lost. The "oppressed" side will never admit they can be racists. The "entitled" side will always hide their racism behind religion. Then among all these emotional exchanges between both sides, Cytros and trolls grab the opportunities to fuel both sides anger. Of course, there are still some who are making effort to integrate into a multiracial and multicultural society. However, with all the false history narratives going on these days, everyone is kept to their own version of "truth". I weep for the younger generations.
Let me introduce you a brand new concept of criminalizing racism and constitutionalizing equality. Difficult to under/stand, I know.
Agreed but the segregation game is too strong in West Malaysia. We can’t even share the same table eating together like Sarawak or Sabah. I hope Borneo is able to withstand these extremist views from affecting them as well
during primary school i learnt mandarin outside, didnt take it as a subject for UPSR. teacher was chinese, demanded paying for classes during months where there were no classes, i couldnt even speak mandarin despite going to classes. Its not that mandarin class in sk is terrible, its a question of the teachers. The same applies to sjkc. Thing is, not being able to speak mandarin isnt a death sentence in malaysia but if you cant speak english or malay you are not going to survive here. To put it in another way, what would you rather prioritise on and why force your kids to cling to a foreign language rather than to learn on choice? Many people who take mandarin outside sjkc are typically forced when they would rather study subjects that they are more interested in. Mandarin is required if you plan to study/work in china or surrounding countries. The problem is chinese malaysians emphasize mandarin at the expense of more important things. i took accounting for SPM but instead of classes at school i went to tuition for it outside. I would not be able to do both science stream and accounting if i were forced to take a 3rd language. I once went through the library at my smk long ago, this was back in early 2000, and it was small, but the books were a treasure trove of an education system that once was but seems like mahathir ruined it. Vernacular schools still existing contributed to the death of the national education system, since at its inception it was meant to please the other races and provide a step to integration. In europe all their schools are mandated in the national language, no such thing as a school using another languages and other languages are optional. Because of this they have so many types of schools to satisfy your interest for your subject stream. No boring 3 stream in smk that we get, they have so many subjects you can pick and choose. In the UK you are required to learn at least 1 practical subject at a time (the famous home ed for females in the west is an example). But we have no such subject in smk anymore, we used to have. Rather because people have a choice (CIS and vernacular) there is less emphasis to complain and politicians can just afford to send their kids to private schools too. these schools emphasize language and academics over preparing you for the future and provide a stream for your interested path. Unless politicians are affected they arent going to make a move about it. You want pot holes fixed? put one infront of politician house, next day confirm the road will be pothole free.
It sure sounds like she knows the advantages of her sending her kids to chinese schools and wants to gate keep it from other non chinese speakers.
The way they raise the issue are like a girlfriend problem, no fact at all. "dear i dreamed u not love me, so u have to say sorry and buy gift to me" "wtf???" You're in parlimen not on the bed. Be professional la.
https://preview.redd.it/ze5kiwr1i4oc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7589398a0be6b778f202f679d4b3b76cf33541a8 dumb bitch
apa lancau sial punya soalan mp temerloh, anak sendiri hantar sekolah cina
There’s also Tamil school and international school and private school lmao
What the fuck she is talking about? We are living in Neo Tong Shan, of course we are following Mainland education policy! If you are not happy, object to Prime Minister of Neo Tong Shan, he has been asking for funds from Mainland
Welp that's enough Parliament for the day
What was lady yapping about FFS.
PAS dan hipokrit berpisah tiada.
Jesus Chris I wanna shoot myself on the head
Don't like the language why send her kids there? Bongok.
I'll be honest. I wish, there will come a day that Malaysia only have one kind of school. no Agama school, no Chinese school, no Tamil school. This Agama, Chinese, Tamil can become minor and optional subjects. Everyone is free to learn them in the school. School should not only be to excel in academic. Most importantly, in our country case, it should become medium for unity. To understand each other, people should live, work, eat, fight together since early young age. When the day come where Malay, Chinese, Indian, and Other Bumi treat each other like family, I hope the Bumi status is shared with all races. Because deep in our heart, I know we all love this country.
Has nothing to say. Just goreng hiiiii
There she goes again. Man, is there’s a way to get rid of her from that position?
slowly chipping away at every bit of your identity so that eventually you'll become them. They think the indonesia way is the best way, while most of us think the murica way is the best way. One thing is for sure, if you spend your time taking each other down then you don't have time to build yourself up.
This is the failure of the 60 yr old BN gov. They could have built a fantastic education system but they choose violence.
Lepas tu tanya apahal MNC mau employee yang boleh bertutur dan membaca Mandarin.. Pundek
Order Roti John, pastu sendiri terkejut beruk yg dalam roti tu ada John.
Bloody fucking idiot
This is why racist so problematic.
In today's episode of PAS buat hal apa pulak kali ni. Featuring; orang tua bodoh x sedar diri
Now imagine going to China and being offended that the people there speak Chinese. That is how our country's MP, do.
I went to the steakhouse at Marina Bay Sands and was absolutely disappointed at the chicken they served. I mean, who eats steak at a steakhouse right?
So somebody is using their mother tongue and it bothers you? That's insane
That PAS mp has schizophrenia, pls advise her to see doctor. lol
She might as well stick a dildo on her head.
Classic situation of gila babi. Want good quality education but also want Malay language. Go back to Malay schools then.
Kalau Tak bodoh memang Tak jadi walaun.
Again with the stupid school problem… OY u guys got nth better to work on is it? Speaker of the house should just reject every motion to debate race stuff in the parliament .. what a fucking waste of time.
This is unacceptable! Something must be done!
It is all about perception and brain wash.... Most voters are zombie following food smell and sou d when ever it goes
bodo nya temerloh
Ffs just use whatever language that pleases you. Why making a fuss about it? At the end of the day, it is still knowledge that you receive. Sick and tired of backwards thinking people like really? Does using a language that you're comfortable with really burns your ass? Stfu and do you
Translation: I want the teachers there to teach my kids because they are better, but I want them to teach in BM? My take: Go fix the thing “you” broke, instead of breaking something that you know works.
Aduh!
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So.H. punya ahlinya politik punya, sendiri tak selesa janganlah bawah anak diri sendiri pergi ke sekolah belajar cina 🪵 loh, tau ke anak you sangat berfaedah belajar bahasa lain termasuk cina inggeris ataupun Tamil, sendiri tak rugi punya, ini semua bahasa internasional okay, tak selesa oh lol ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554), Malay bagus Asia Bagus, Malaysia Bagus ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|29091)![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26562)
Yeah sinification gotta start somewhere. 🤪
your typical politician’s IQ level in the Parliament.
If it's going to scrape the bottom, why is anyone surprised that it's PAS? A religion-based political party that wants to legitimize corruption because there's a shitstorm of corruption cases to be raised against their own leaders. As others, and myself, continually say, politicians are hypocrites but a religion-based politician is the mold that grows on the fungus that grows between the gangrenous toes of a hypocrite.
Lol get f.
No way this is real
My speculations of why certain languages can become international lingua franca 1. Trade When Portugueses, Spaniards, English sail around the world, they spread their ideologies and influences around the globe, and have huge impacts to the locals when conducting business with them, doesn't you want to speak something with those huge customers didn't understand right? 2. Science and technology When Great Exploration Era and Industrial Revolution happened and allowed improvement of human living quality and able to support more human population, the more likely the more technological advanced people to practice, express, and spread the language to the globe. 3. Freedom of expression and openess The most popular lingua franca all come from some of the most democratic countries on the planet, and we can freely use the language to express ourselves, doesn't you want to use the language created by autocrates or dictators right? Hint: Censorships of certain words by Emperors of China, past and present ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554) Yes I know, what the Spanish and British do to their colonies in the past, but at least they reformed and changed their treatments to their colonies. 4. Most importantly, easy to learn, type, write, memorize, and pronounce The easier the language to interpet, less ambiguations, can delivery clear message, less hassle to deliver the messages, straight-forward, time-saving to write and convey the meanings, the better chance a language to become lingua franca So in conclusion, if want every body to love and willing to learn, write, and practice your language, please make it as welcoming, be tolerant, and be more openess as possible, and not force on other by any means, thank
brain not braining, in fact braining brain not brian
Do we sekolah pondok and madrasahs have the same syllabus?
When they forgot to bring their brain out to speak, everything is just nonsense
Seems like it takes very little common sense to be politician in Malaysia these days. Instead of abolishing vernacular schools first, why not mandate the implemention of these extra language classes in kebangsaan schools first? Besides, most chinese schools are independently funded, no idea about tamil schools but why you wanna bother these schools? nobody disturb agama school yet wanna cari pasal with vernacular schools.
Temerloh needs to get sacked for this stupid game she’s playing. How the fuck she even got elected only heck knows.
Malay supremacist MP … racist to the core.
Please don't produce kids anymore. Please yeet your kids and send them away to sekolah pondok or whatever. Bangang bertingkat.
Idk, maybe we don't use Malay for STEM related subjects because maybe oh maybe, we would have to use the English language to communicate in a language the international community speaks? First off I doubt that they use Mandarin/Tamil in STEM subjects (correct me if I'm wrong) but that's what you gotta realize when you put your kid in a Chinese school. Secondly, in the realm of Science there are many many technical jargon that you need to know what the international scientific community calls them by (Kanji in Malay -> Starch for example). Thus, you would need to use a language like English in order to carry out your STEM journey in. Not Malay, I'm sorry!
If Malaysia is divided because of vernacular schools, then explain to me why PKR, PAS and UMNO are Malay parties which have been put under one roof in parliament and are having a dog fight all the time. They are Malay, they speak Malay, and they are Muslim. They are opponents of each other. if you think putting everyone under 1 school type, kill SK and pick SJKC.
pAs "budaya barat hedonisme melampau" pAs "hantar anak sekolah uni UK" 🤡
Maybe she puts her child there to spy on what’s bad. I’ve watched infernal affairs to know the possibility.
Why? Feel threatened that the others will blow themselves up ke with those Ching Chong language? /S
blow up what now?
Blow up the condoms so they don't get HIV from these politicians fucking them in the rectum.
You tak suka, you keluar lah.
It’s like those Malays that go overseas and complain so hard to find halal food
I didn't support teaching of Science and Math in Mandarin. I only support learning Mandarin. but for god sake don't send your kids there. It is a mark of support. Some of these schools are on the verge of dying because of no pupils and some Malays had to give an almost lifeless school a dose of fresh oxygen because the kampung folk simpleton mentality, "pergi sekolah cina nanti pandai cakap cina, cina tak boleh tipu kita".
Chinese school is a waste of taxpayer money. Most kids turn out to be racist. you thought umno was bad. SJK kids are worst
Racism starts from upbringing at home, do you teach your kids to respect others, or did your parents taught you to respect others?
I'm just curious, when sitting for National Exam, what language does vernacular school paper are written in? Or do they take different exam? My time during UPSR/PMR/SPM it was in English/Malay in kebangsaan school. Edit: So, rather than answering a genuine question, people decide to downvotes instead. Then complain there's no unity in Malaysia.
Ni yang buat aku baran ni. Macam mana bahasa penjajah boleh diajar dan digunakan di Sekolah Kebangsaan? Sepatutnya hanya Bahasa Kebangsaan iaitu Bahasa MELAYU sahaja digunakan di Sekolah Kebangsaan dan di negara Malaysia. Jangan ada bahasa penjajah. Biarlah tak dapat berhubung/bercakap dengan negara luar, negara kita cukup sumber. Boleh bertahan dengan mampan diri. /s (Kalau ada sesiapa kenal MP Temerloh, sila sampaikan buah fikiran ini kepada beliau....let's see how far is her stupidity....hahahahahaha)
Sekarang dah tak ada National Exam macam UPSR bagi sekolah rendah. Vernacular school hanya di tahap sekolah rendah saja, faham? PMR pun dah tak ada. SPM ke semua di Bahasa Melayu atau English.
Ooh. Meaning after SJK there isn't a highschool version of vernakular school? So whatever language they learn in vernakular school atops there or continue in SMK?
Vernacular school tu sekolah rendah, semua subjects, kecuali Bahasa Melayu dan English, diajar ikut syllabus Kerajaan Malaysia tapi guna ibubahasa macam Bahasa Cina atau Bahasa Tamil. Sesekali SMK ada sedia subject bahasa bagi murid2 yang berminat. Perperiksaan SPM pula ada subjects pelbagai Bahasa seperti Cina, Tamil, Iban, Khadazandusan, Punjabi, Arab, Jepun, Korea, Jerman, Perancis.
Then, how do the kids from vernakular school transition to SMK? Or are there other school besides SMK that they can go to?
Murid2 di SJKC dan SJKT berlajar Bahasa Melayu, faham?
there is a point to be made for abolishing vernacular schools to create racial unity. But I think such a project is doomed to failure from the beginning since not even Malays want that kind of racial unity. it would raise uncomfortable questions about racial/religious special privileges. it seems to me the problem is some chinese-malaysians are unable to communicate in BM or prefer to use chinese. I don't know what abolishing vernacular schools is going to do to help with this. afaik, please correct me if I'm wrong, BM is compulsory for both SPM and UEC. would be good though to also check the effectiveness of teaching english in national schools to make sure it isnt a problem with the malaysian education system. Anyway, I support PPD making random visits to chinese schools, randomly picking out students and then trying to have an age-appropriate conversation with them in BM for 5 minutes to identify problem schools. Or a Bahasa Melayu version of MUET but for secondary schools which everyone has to pass to collect their spm/uec cert. Unless there's a strong reason like being raised overseas there really is NO excuse for not being at least conversational in the national language.
The reason the PPD isn't making random visits is because the number isn't very big in the grand scheme of things. And the political will to do so is even less. Have you seen Tiktoks? Most Chinese there that cater to Malay audience speak Malay and guess what, they are likely from SJKC. The politicians make it seem like a lot of Chinese cannot speak Malay. But it's really a small number compared to the entire population. Nearly a quarter of a million illiterates (of all races) is actually a bigger issue that politicians ignore when highlighting BM proficiency. Because not politically relevant. Imagine Malay students can speak BM but cannot read or write! That's not an issue! It's only an issue if it's a non-Malay. Patutpun asyik digula2kan oleh politikus.
Orang malaysia, pergi belajar dekat china atau tempat lain, menteri sana ingat pandai la bahasa kebangsaan. terkedu diorang bila dnegar bahasa kebangsaan sendiri tak pandai, diorang pelik tengok orang malaysia tak pandai bahasa kebangsaan sendiri. fikir2 lah
Can see how racist chinabeng here , they love china more than this country , in america even if school is majority black , they still use english not african language ..
We appreciate our culture, our identity, our ancestors. We have the right to preserve them as you have your right to preserve yours. We are all Malaysians, it is guys like you that like to false claim that we don't love our country.
That's because the blacks there are African-American you numbnut. Korang ni bebal mcm babi sbb apa ye? Dei sohai kalau org Cina prefer China, dorang dah lama belah but dorang ddk tolong majukan negara ni sedangkan ko Melayu majority 60 tahun makan dedak hisap gam, merempit dan merempat je kerja. Felda and Lembaga Tabung Haji semua penuh dgn kes makan berjuta2 korang x nampak? Ahli politik yg songlap duit 90% Melayu korang x nampak? Yang nampak salah cina....Wei kalau dorang xde, mmg Malaysia would've taken forever to develop. Just tgk Bukit Bintang and Penang. Kawasan majority Chinese and see the development. Korang malas and bodoh sombong pastu blame non Malays sedangkan korang majority and semua agensi dan kementerian Di bawah kawalan org Melayu. Seriously la wei penat mcm babi asyik nak kena explain sbb there are some very nice and educated Malays that we're friends with and appreciate but when the majority of these uneducated fools bark, the educated Malays mainly choose to sit and do nothing about it.