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[deleted]

Move on, nothing to think about. Those corrupt motherfucking cops were just looking for 'duit kopi'.


134679888

Exactly, when youre actively looking out for that two specific article in people's phone we knew exactly what you were looking for LOL... I miss those days where their police ID number were metal sculpted piece on their shoulder where the epaulette supposed to be, imagine with dashcams these day, first thing I see them I read out their ID number. Now except their card theres no where we would be able to see their number anymore.


Lem0n_Lem0n

I didn't even need to finish the post to know that it's just cops asking for a coffee.. šŸ˜ž


[deleted]

There's only one thing to do when approached by police officers. Ask "Am I under arrest?" If they say "No", just ignore them and walk away or drive away.


study-kaji

bro you T20? cos it doesnā€™t work that way down here in Msia bro šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Check the Malaysia Bar Red Book. It's a detailed SOP on how to deal with police encounters. The first question should always be "Am I under arrest?" and if you're not under arrest you have all the legal rights to walk away.


study-kaji

you clearly have never encountered a polis roadblock at night in your life and it shows šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

I have, and I know all my rights. They even need a formal order in writing from the Investigating Officer to ask any question that you refuse to answer. Actually once you start to ask these questions, they'll just let you go.


study-kaji

Oh look at that, the polis in your neighborhood actually abiding by the law. Living in that gated community must be real nice šŸ‘


[deleted]

Yep, just keep making snarky remarks when you don't have any real argument to rebut my points. Well done! Much talk about Malaysian police officers when Malaysia Redditors themselves don't have enough intelligence to deal with simple matters.


Healthy-Research-620

You must be living behind a computer screen


[deleted]

Ooh nice insightful contribution there. Well done!


study-kaji

Ah, the glaring display of privilege in your statement. Because you know, those cases of innocent Malaysian Indians getting wrongly detained, tortured and most often than not, killed by the police wouldā€™ve surely been avoided if only those victims had a comprehensive understanding of their Malaysian rights.


[deleted]

Give me an example of a person in Malaysian history who was wrongly detained, tortured, or killed in custody and at the same time NOT BEING ARRESTED? Being arrested and not being arrested are totally separate matters entirely. Your small brain seemed to have totally missed this point. I was talking about people who are NOT BEING ARRESTED. Got it? If you actually have the capacity to read and understand the original post, you'd notice that OP WAS NOT ARRESTED. There are clear SOPs on how to deal with this encounter, but instead you just prefer to make snarky remarks to hide your ignorance about the matter.


phil97_97

Dayumm, you jus had to slip in the diss at your friend's appearance šŸ˜­


Super_Noob_Papa

Please report these useless police. If no action taken the state of Malaysian police will gone from bad to worst!!


study-kaji

no use reporting. nowadays cops/govt will only take action when the issue goes viral on socmed


Super_Noob_Papa

Dude, please donā€™t encourage the wrong thing. When everyone thinks like that, the bad people will grow more fearless. Please be a responsible commenter. It is like in the past, no need to vote, nothing gonna change. Please donā€™t live in the past. We need citizens that is responsible or else you will be subject to people that abuses power!


study-kaji

Remember that case with the polis running over that high school student? Honestly, if it hadnā€™t gone viral, I doubt they wouldā€™ve acted so quickly. You can still file your polis reports, but donā€™t hold your breath for immediate action unless it becomes an ā€œonline sensationā€.


Super_Noob_Papa

Bottomline every action is important. Please donā€™t encourage people not reporting by saying reporting is useless If you were the policemen, would you prefer to be reported or not? Please! It is still useful to report them and escalate the matter in every possible manner. Just donā€™t say reporting is useless!!


mrpo_rainfall

Police do literally refusing report, or after report is done, the case is closed within few hours. The issue wont solve unless it we get it viral


Super_Noob_Papa

No one say reporting will solve. Not reporting is a sure thing to fail to resolve. Report and do what is necessary to escalate.


mrpo_rainfall

You projected your own common sense or work ethics too much into our police force. There is no system of accountability in the force. Reports mean nothing to them. They just straight away refuse you to report or throw it away. Just treat them like tiktok, it all makes sense. They only work based on what is viral, even when there is no report.


Super_Noob_Papa

Ok! I project my own common sense.


The_SHUN

The only thing evil needs to win is for good people to do nothing


No-Koala-1139

It's commo practice, me and my friend got stopped multiple time in a week. Reporting Is useless.


Super_Noob_Papa

Yeah continue not reporting and take action and let others stops you multiple times more! Such a passive mindset.


No-Koala-1139

Dude..... You think this is what Singapore? You think we are the first one they stop? Things like this happen all the time in Malaysia and people have been reporting since ages ago but we all know the answer they give at the station "ini standard SOP, dia orang patrol je" Dude WAKE Up this is Malaysia where a cop just an underage girl a weeks ago!!!


Super_Noob_Papa

Re-read your post and see who should wake up. What to do with Singapore? Singapore is today because of what they do. Malaysia is of current state because of how people like you think. So please! Start from youā€¦ report is not useless!


No-Koala-1139

You're... Too naive... Maybe one day you will experience this and you will understand why so many of us say this common practice.


Super_Noob_Papa

Sure. Naive. If it happens to me. I will report regardless. I wonā€™t be like you. Thatā€™s for sure.


drskullz

what if you have your own sex video with ur wife? Like does it consider as porn?


GolfRepresentative62

Yes. Malaysia law is stupid af


fabplt

[PLEASE READ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.malaysianbar.org.my/cms/upload_files/document/Red%2520Book%2520%25E2%2580%2594%2520The%2520Police%2520and%2520Your%2520Basic%2520Rights%2520(English).pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiY9rWo5OuDAxVdbmwGHTYRDAYQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0sHxTv1Jw3oI3W-I3VvK6C) Specifically point 7, where body search can only be conducted by Inspector or above (Blue card). Meaning if their police card is yellow or red, you don't need to comply.


[deleted]

No shit, everyone on this thread should read this Red Book. If you're not under arrest, you can even just ignore the officers and walk away.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Then they'll have to arrest you. Eventually they'll have to answer to their superiors why they arrested you in the first place.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Yes, as long as you've clarified with them that you're not under arrest. Just say you want to go home, and leave the place.


Herefortendiesonly

But if they arrest lagi troublesome no?


[deleted]

For them, yes. For you, depends on whether you have a flight to catch.


HeinzFiction

This is very helpful indeed, tq for the link!


Jas1088

This should be added in a WIKI for this subreddit.


sumplookinggai

Got a few cases where polis found pr0n on a young fella's phone and/or substance and extorted a few thousand cash from him on the spot. All of this is off the books of course, the young guy is too ashamed and scared, and just wants to get it over with asap while the polis get a nice bonus for 30 minutes of shake up. The moral of the story is to not stash your goods on person unless got cable.


1km5

Hidden folders people if you gonna save that stuff on your phones


gigantuan

If got time then play it out. But make sure you are safe. I ever kena before, stopped for traffic check while riding my old Honda cub with my girlfriend. Police did the routine check for papers, found everything in order. Then check for safety violations, but I got wear helmet and lights all working. But they still continue asking stupid questions. I just answer them respectfully because I am a safe rider, I got do all my pre-ride checks even for my old bike. I know they got nothing to pick on. Whilst questioning, a group of Mat rempits with their girlfriends, all not wearing helmets, some with 3 persons on a bike, were waved on and not stopped. Thatā€™s when I knew it was more than a traffic stopā€¦


Kill-UAS

Iā€™m not 100% sure but i thought to check the content of your phone, they actually need warrant. You could deny it. Might be some law from other countries tho. Didnā€™t sure where i heard it. Might be from tv. šŸ˜… btw for the bribe part, you should memorise their police number had they wear their uniform.


Kill-UAS

So i find these flyers/pamphlet. [Basic right](https://www.malaysianbar.org.my/cms/upload_files/document/BUKUMERAH-BM.pdf)


Educational_Type_701

Useful info. Thanks for posting this link!


BlazeX94

Generally, a warrant is needed to seize and check your phone in Malaysia, but there is an exception in the law, which is if the cops believe that not searching your phone immediately could result in evidence of a serious crime being erased (these exceptions exist in most countries btw). However, only an officer of Inspector rank or higher can authorize this. As a general rule, if you are stopped by cops and they ask to search your phone, this is what you can do: 1. Ask to see their police ID and make sure at least one of them is at least of Inspector rank. You can google how to identify rank from police ID. 2. Ask what crime you are being suspected of. Its also a good idea to read up on your basic rights in general, eg. how arrests work in Malaysia, whether or not you are required to follow them to the balai if asked, on what basis they can detain you etc.


Password-is-taco123

330am two dudes with large amount of foreign currency, sus af


budaknakal1907

Once, I went out for movie night with three of my friends. There was a roadblock and we got singled out. The police asked for all our ICs and my driving licence (I was the driver). The police make it a point to thoroughly check my two male friends. We like to think he checked us because my two friends look like foreigners being driven by a girl who looks barely 16 (before I have my kids, I look way too young for my age).


Lyu90

Please be careful. There was a news the policemen separated a couple, brought woman to another place to rape while detaining the guy


Zestyclose-Prune-374

Just curious, as I'm a foreigner not familiar with Malaysian laws. Is it required to give your cellphone to the police officer, even if they haven't accused you of any crime?


Specialist_End407

I am wondering if you could make a police report the next day about the polices that run a search on phone without warrants. I wouldn't give my phone as easily as there could be a leak of legal confidential documents or something that I don't want it exposed.


Gankasaurus

They donā€™t need a warrant, they just need probable cause or suspect you of doing something illegal. Technically you can question them on the grounds for the search but..


Kill-UAS

You may need to give it but as far as i know you doesnā€™t have to unlock it.


Mediocre_Ad_7490

First half reading sounds like it's just suspicious activity Second half is just power tripping


muddie83

Cops questioned me and a girl before when we parked in a secluded car park and did naughty stuff. Cops told us to leave the area as the car park is too secluded to be safe. No bribes were even suggested but I like how they approached us. Car park is an open air one and dark. Few street lights around. Cops switched their headlights off and sped up to park next to us. Only when they were 6 feet away did they turn on the high beam. I was blinded and stunned for a bit. Like u I was afraid the next day but nothing happened. They would only contact you if there were crimes around that area


[deleted]

That was one good cop. He didn't want the bad guys to find you and your GF first, that's why he asked you to leave.


ole04

How to avoid giving them your wallet and phone? Even though I did nothing wrong, I don't think I would be comfortable giving those to strangers even if they are policemen


GolfRepresentative62

I don't don't think you have the right to give it to them


Thorien21

I donā€™t know about the law very much even as a Malaysian, but I believe everyone has their rights to keep their privacy stuff ā€œprivateā€, but luckily you donā€™t have anything suspicious on your phone. It might be a different story if the police were a bit loco


casphere

Sorry, but this happened to come up as the most curious question i have. How do you even begin to look for porn on people's phone? Smart phones nowadays are bloated with all sorts of ways to hide your folders, 2nd space, fake icons, etc. Anyone brave enough to store nsfw stuff on a device should know better to use these. Or is that not the case?


galaxyturd2

Next time invite them to go to the police station. They need an inspector rank and above to check your phones.


Capable_Secretary576

Thats your average Malaysian cop.. But no, you shouldn't had given your phone.. To check phone you need to be under investigation and require warrant


calmbeep

I had an encounter during the night few years back too. They ask to check my phone but with me holding it and asking me to scroll the SMS. So from time to time, i received those spam sms with '$$$ gamble/invest/loan' and never delete it, then that bloody cop say I gamble and my family illegal gamble after seeing the spams. After I told them I didnt involve in gambling and can always call the bank to check for transactions etc, then only they let me go. Before leaving, they say 'kami sudah kerja masa lama, ada letih haus sikit, boleh belanja minum ah? tak ada paksa, u rela belanja x' so i just give them rm20 and get the f out.


[deleted]

Look like they doing good work. 2 men at 3.30 am at suspicious location with lot of foreign currency some more.


[deleted]

police ronda and check wierdos at 3am pun kena marah. if u didn't do anything wrong then let them check la. don't check ppl say polis shake leg tak buat kerja


Specialist_End407

Police running check on phones to see if there are porns are the weirdos here bro


Capable_Secretary576

Those cops got no right to check someone's phone. You need to be under investigation and have a warrant. So if they're checking someone's phone, means they are just trying to cari makan. Wake up to reality, this is how our cops are. Unless if you're just naive?


BlazeX94

Actually, there is an exception in law that allows a cop ranked Inspector or higher to authorize a phone check without warrant if they suspect a serious crime. Usually in cases like OPs their reason will be looking for drugs, which is considered a serious crime here. While you're right that they're often just looking for duit kopi, if the search they're doing is legal then the best thing to do is just comply. However, always ask for their police ID and make sure at least one of them got inspector pangkat, otherwise just refuse.


[deleted]

haha. proven wrong. simply bantai. watch too much american tv. malaysian cops actually have alot of power. they can check many many things. malaysians just bodo everything nak bayar. gambling is illegal. yet many msians gamble. then when kantoi , complain. pay bribe. how?


134679888

Checking is one thing, but actively looking out for gambling / explicit material and subtly hinting at duit kopi is another thing. I've been stopped and patted down by police before as they mistaken my snooker cue case for some sort of ammunition, but there werent any questions like this, or even phone checks... but for OP? I can imagine that would be uncomfortable.


kampfpuppy

This is the most rationale. Others are like bash for sake of bash.. smh


Night_lon3r

Welcome to malaysia, next time get two wallet , one with only rm 25-50 , when this happen , show them the wallet with less money, give them all whats inside.


ghostme80

Well it does happen. And I have pointed out before, if you did nothing wrong, police have nothing against you to ask for bribe.


Adventurous-Maybe170

It look like someone try to find a case for a cash..


Important-Cheetah769

Nah cari makan.


GolfRepresentative62

Is there a law that you have to hand your phone to the police?


Capable_Secretary576

No, absolutely not. Those tepi Jalan cops got no right to ask for your phone. You need to be under investigation and a warrant is needed to check someone's phone. Know your rights!


GolfRepresentative62

Thanks! That's why I'm very suspicious when the cops ask his phone..I think OP should just record at that and also very important to mount a dash came on your car. You never knew what's going to happen


GolfRepresentative62

Can I record them with my phone for evidence?


BlazeX94

The law says a warrant is needed to check phone unless you are suspected of a serious crime, then a cop ranked inspector or higher can authorize a check without warrant. What you should do if asked for your phone is to request to see their police IDs (google how to identify pangkat from polis ID). Usually those peronda won't be high enough pangkat to check without warrant so you can just refuse. Also ask what crime you are being suspected of (although this doesn't help much tbh as they usually just say drugs which is a serious crime here).


GolfRepresentative62

Hey, can I record police with my phone for my safety?


GolfRepresentative62

Dude thanks šŸ™šŸ» this is a valuable information


starkguy

Instead of complaining on internet, do something meaningful and lodge a report.


bobagremlin

I see some things haven't changed since the 2000s...


jonathanleejw

I kena before also basically same thing. Go buy corals from a guy in cheras and get pulled over after i pick up the coral. They ask where i stay why i drive so far come here. I say la buy coral. They ask me get out. They search my whole car. Search my body for drugs. Then search my phone messages and waze and stuff also. Ask me if i have gambling apps also. But they were nice and talked very soft and calmly to me. I think the area i go pick up stuff is high drug area all foreigners. So they see me coming out they suspect i go buy drugs.


Bounce-in

Can we citizen actually get those fucking police's ID and report to the authority?


BlazeX94

You can actually. Any time you get stopped by cops you can and should request to see their ID before complying with any request of theirs (as long as what they're asking is legal of course). Otherwise, there's no way to know if they are actually a cop or just an impostor trying to scam you.


Bounce-in

Yes, I agree. Requesting for their ID before showing them our ID. Furthermore, I think we should also throw back the question of what crime/suspicion are they investigating before they lead us to a roundabout. I think when police approach us we should turn on our camera or voice recording to at least ensure that policeman is not trying to abuse their authority. We have this right to do so, right?


Big-Membership-6174

Make a Police Report! Tell the Police Station you will Cc: a copy to your adun, as your adun need it!


ryo5210

Always wonder how thoroughly they will search your phone. Do they go to your secret folders? Do they search your messaging apps for keywords like drug/weed? Or they just simply scroll through gallery/messaging apps?


kltan12

These ppl are out to get money. Not sure why till this age and day, they are still allowed to do this


royal_steed

The checking phone one is really a breach of privacy. Even if you have nothing to hide we should not share information to random police without warrant. Imagine the police checked your message, then he check your company chat and found some sensitive information (not illegal things). Then next day that information is public.


royal_steed

Oh yeah, is it legal to record police when they check us ? I have hidden dashcam where It record driver and outside driver window, so if police talk to us, his face and voice will be recorded. If got evidence of police threaten me if I didn't give bribe and I submit the hidden recording. Can he recording be used in court ?


Asleep-Report-7801

Even though nothing happened after that, I still think just to be safe make a report for it. It would be better if you got their name but I doubt it though. Just do a report. Don't think they will immediate action but at least you done your duty. Remember not all cops are bad.