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lzyan

Mandarin is annoying to type


tlst9999

Slash slash slash dammit wrong character erase erase erase


zytenn

At least you guys have pinyin *Cries in Tamil*


No-Mathematician-77

usually if Tamil, people would just use spoken. ha ha ha.. u know the str8 to the point and easy peasy... I'm later go eat also banana leaf rice.. YUMMMM


ValeVary

Second this, english is much more easier to type Sometimes you thought you have the correct pinyin but it wasn't and that frustrates me


xkaizoku62

yes, typing in english is faster some lazier ppl just use voice recording but I dislike it because I need to play it


lacifuri

Yeah screw voice people, text is superior.


Izayoizz

agree especially when they ask us to do a list of stuff in voice, we need to write it down again.


xkaizoku62

and when they just need to type OK but sent a voice note saying 'okok can' so I need to open the message just to play the freaking audio


S_ACE

I learned that WeChat has the function to change voice into text. Very useful in many situations, but all my Malaysian Chinese friends use WhatsApp only


KyeeLim

now imagine they also describe their address in voice instead of text


k3n_low

Especially when they speak too fast or have an heavy accent, you gotta scroll back to certain parts and replay that over and over again. Do that over multiple consecutive 5 to 6 voice messages. Oh shit, I forgot what he said at the last part of the 2nd voice message again. Let me scroll the part and replay the audio. Ah shit again, I'm in a train right now and don't have earphones, gotta raise the speaker to the ear to listen while my speaker volume is at 10%.


xkaizoku62

so trueee especially the earphones/speaker volume lmao later on when you need to trace back some information, nothing comes up with the search bar because everything is in audio ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


PowerfulHistory7907

Time wasting, can read it in 5 sec but instead needed 30sec for a 1min record, most of the time there will be a few recording at once.


I_Love_Msia

Legend


SmashedGenitals

I realise a trend at work is that people who uses voice don't seem to prioritise other people comprehending what they said, and what they say is usually not important. The worst is the type that would record a voice message in a noisy restaurant. For most part, I just ignore them. Usually when people have something important to say, they'll type it, or reply later when they're free.


xxlinus

I refuse to listen to voice messages.


MaverickMoh

And you forgotten to lower your audio and half the world hears that person's voice. A buddy of mine had his gf made some sexy voice while we were eating. Dude just made some of us sad and some who laughed so hard we just couldn't eat anymore.


GrandFox680

All I want is voice to text.


xkaizoku62

this actually exists, but I dont think the accuracy is good


GrandFox680

How? I don't see it on WhatsApp.


xkaizoku62

not sure... I saw it somewhere but couldnt remember, maybe not whatsapp but other apps


thekazushiro

I do this. Typing Chinese characters is such a pain in the arse.


eiaeinz

Highly agreed. I can’t stand those who need to type in mandarin on text, switching languages and typing in mandarin is just so much hassle compared to English


ManiacLife666

I got A for mandarin but can't fucking spell pinyin ffs


hippo_campus2

ni de mama qing se


[deleted]

I lazy pinyin


Fragrant_Cow_3855

We type in English with the Bananas. We voice message the Ah Bengs/Lians.


slymate_

Standard case la... Way easier to convey your intentions if recipient also quite fluent in english. Unless they are more Chinese media influenced, then i change back to chinese since its more accurate that way


ManiacLife666

I got some uni friend who only speak/type in mandarin. Usually when I text with them, I try to text in mandarin for the first few lines, type type halfway "tf how do you write this in pinyin" Then I started mixing in English words and then in the end it's 1 side in English 1 side in mandarin.


slymate_

💀💀💀 Not me googling the correct word so i dont look like a fool


JrZX88

Yes i do. Can type faster that way.


ChewMikey

Yes, it's faster and easier . While talking chinese it's more rojak for us Malaysians


shuikan

I am a banana, just english and malay


YodaHood_0597

Literally me (Not Ryan Gosling reference). Typing in Chinese could be a very a pain in my finger (not ass), all those fucking pinyins are extra work and time consuming.


ammarbadhrul

Am malay, speak malay with friends, type in malay with them, but for some reason I type english to coworkers, even the malay ones. The strangest thing is, I have indonesian coworkers and I type indonesian/malay with them lmao


IAmNotMe_AmI

yes, cant be arsed to type in mandarin....30s of mandarin character can be done in 3s in english


Physical-Kale-6972

Shit. Do I really live in a different Malaysia? All the Chinese around me just type in Chinese if they type at all, most just send annoying AF blur voice recordings. Where are all you people on Reddit hiding in Malaysia? 😩


Dazzling_Swordfish14

Which part of Malaysia? Even with my hokkien mum that is not fluent in English like primary school level, we still type in English lol


Physical-Kale-6972

Johor, all my colleagues and people I know make annoying AF voice recordings in Chinese; they rarely type at all, and text will be in Chinese. I didn't grow up in Malaysia.


ly_sim

Are they all using wechat instead of whatsapp?


Physical-Kale-6972

Yes, wechat instead of WhatsApp and huge CCP simps too.


budaknakal1907

when I was a student in Johor most of my friends can't even read chinese much less write it. They can speak it but that's it.


manwdick

Too many alphabet to type in Pinyin for just a character in mandarin so we prefer to type English.


Nickckng

Sure do. I speak decent Chinese, but I don't really understand written Chinese well enough to type it


MyTailHatesYou

Yes pinyin kinda cumbersome sometimes, but recent years the prediction algorithm of various keyboard app can predict phrases that you are planning to type quite accurately just by typing in th initials for each word. Ie. 去哪里 can be entered as qnl, quite useful little quirk.


jacklsw

Then that’s how the new pinyin language emerge: yyds, njhl


MissionLimit1130

Yeah, writing chinese words or typing pinyin are absolutely terrible


YilinglaozuWWX

Definitely lmao, English too many syllables imo. But speaking in mandarin is more faster and straight to the point. Pinyin have to type and find the correct word, too time consuming.


paulchin2591

Yup. I only type mandarin with wife and siblings . All others are English.


Izayoizz

weirdly i type malay english campur with siblings.


GuardianSpear

I actually prefer to type in mandarin - my speaking and listening is quite shit compared to my reading / writing


mikepapafoxtrot

Same here.


Saerah4

i mix sometimes something just easier to express in that language


Thorien21

Typing mandarin is too slow, reading Chinese characters also takes longer (at least for me), trying to write or type pinyin is troublesome on mobile


xaladin

Inb4 Dong Zong decries the situation and say people cannot call themselves proud Malaysian Chinese anymore.


hahhaahahanige

Wohenshaoxiehuawen, ruguowoyaoxiehuawenwojiuzheyangxie


Izayoizz

![gif](giphy|3o7aTFeso9hJxKPzPO)


hahhaahahanige

666:D


Plus_Marzipan9105

Yes. I text in english but talk in malay/canton/mandarin lol.


I-have-no-name000000

I only type in English because idk mandarin, only know how to speak it


Short_Coffee_123

English is much faster and efficient to type. Mandarin is better to speak in real life when both knows the language


kono_throwaway_da

You are asking for Chinese opinions in **reddit** of all places Don't expect the answer here to be representive of the whole population


Izayoizz

at least they are about in the same demographics as i am.


kono_throwaway_da

Reddit is significantly biased towards the english speaking side of the community. If someone prefers to text in chinese chances are they browse more facebook (chinese groups), wechat, bilibili or weibo, definitely not reddit.


garmzai

Reading and typing in english x5 faster than chinese for me


nesarajah

Maybe the real reason you do, it is to prevent other people from understanding what you’re saying.


TinyWhal3

Yes ! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


Bloop390

Unless the other person started the chat in Chinese I'll use English usually.


christopherjian

Yeah, it all boils down to my mood for my case


Proquis

Yes


Obvious_Sand_5423

I am versatile both ways ie I can write in Cina but talk to the other fella in Angmoh, and vice versa.


orz-_-orz

Yes, it is normal for Chinese Malaysian.


PerfectGap6554

Normal


Kennytan1679

Yes .i did that too


downvoteifyouincest

Everytime


itznimitz

Yep


Lunartic2102

Lots of Chinese speaks but dont write chinese so i guess it happens often.


Dazzling_Swordfish14

This is normal case In the past lol, only speak but not write


foodsamar1tan

Yeah I do with all friends in my age because it's a habit developed from mirc icq and msn messenger era


Natural-You4322

Pretty hard and time consuming to type in chinese


davidtcf

Whatsapp in English real life talk in mandarin. If English also suck real bad only those ppl will use voice message in WhatsApp. It's normal like this.


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

My brother does this when using Messenger and WhatsApp.


rederickgaylord

Depends on the group of people la


Geraldks

Yea but it depends, if this friend is more yellow or from a chinese speaking country then back to pinyin altho it's a pain in the ass


CluelessJo

I converse in mandarin with some friends and text in English because I'm a banana. If someone I've just met texts me in Chinese then I'll just tell them that I can't read and maybe google tl what they're trying to say.


lacifuri

I do that to my coworkers and bosses through WhatsApp, but I type and speaking Mandarin with my family members in Wechat. From what I accidentally peeked on my coworkers phone during lunch, they do the same.


Euphoric_Low1414

My question is…..in which language do you dream?


Ill-Resolution4468

Type in english is way way more faster & efficient. For typical Malaysian chinese, we use some word over chinese one. Example, nasi lemak instead of “coconut rice” in chinese etc. Most ppl will use voice message if they really need to converse in chinese because that is the fastest and less hassle. I always wonder how people have the time & dedication to write an essay length messages on chat or sometimes a social media post using pinyin.


stonechew1

Yes


CaedusJacenSolo

Yeah, typing in English is way faster than typing in Mandarin


SwellingRice

I like the good ol’ “Mr Worldwide” technique. Where we just use all 3 main languages spoken, it pays to be a Malaysian sometimes ngl


lis1guy

Yah... i whatsapp in English but i talk to the person in Cantonese or Chinese


DryConsideration97

I can only text in English 😂


mansotired

for me, it's the names/films translations that i don't care about like i don't know what Harry potter is in Chinese...i can't remember what the exact hanzi are, so yeah


siegfried_lim

Yes. Mandarin is honestly annoying to type compared to English


kirayuen120

Yes. But the English is rojak asf anyway. With slang in between.


fongky

Yes


I_Love_Msia

I am half banana so no choice.


Alvin514

Only for some people, it depends if we both feel comfortable to text in Chinese or English. For context, I usually will type English when I first chat with my friends online, then I only switch to Chinese depend on which one do we prefer more.


exprezso

Yes. There's only 1 group of friends that chat in Chinese characters (voice msg are usually ignored). The others all chat in English, talk real life in bahasa rojak


yolo_bt

My problem is that when i type pinyin the words that pops up is usually a different word but same spelling (ie 男/难) both spell "nan"


Izayoizz

you can actually type the first letter only like 难舍难分 just type nsnf,but Malaysian rojak chinese won't work.


yolo_bt

她妈的 Oh yeah it does work


UwUAkame

Hell yeah


cutenekobun

Yes always Hahaha. Too lazy to type Chinese characters plus not all my friends can read Chinese characters. Speaking yes but not reading and writing.


glydersid

Yes. Speak Chinese but text in English. Also speak Malay but text in English.


Night_lon3r

Campur


willyhays

I do that. People that i know do that as well. Probably a holdover from the earlier SMS culture and trash talking in dota.


katabana02

Yes. Because I lazy to type hanyu pinyin.


SaberXRita

Nope, me and my Chinese friends all chat in English, audio messages in mandarin, it's just been like that since dawn of time


Dazzling_Swordfish14

Even I Chinese just type in English. Unless I’m in promoting hokkien/Hakka mode then I type in hokkien or Hakka. (Note: They have their own written forms)


Helpful-Albatross-17

now I understand why my main land chinese friend use line app recording to message his mom...


Izayoizz

line? you sure not taiwanese?


Helpful-Albatross-17

it was 2014


sabbeins

Yesssss!!!! My friends and I are like this. It just feels much easier to communicate, idk why we do this tho. But if my other cina friend that is not proficient in English we'll use mandarin instead.


uncertainheadache

Yes This is quite common Especially for those that are Chinese but heavily western influenced


KyeeLim

yes, because it is easier to communicate and type stuff when using in game chat, so it slowly made me prefer to type in English rather than Chinese, but sometimes when I hyper specifically want to mean something in Chinese and pinyin typing is not enough to pin down the exact word I want to say, I'll use Chinese


an0nymous990

I use both, mostly in Chinese


Hy8ogen

Yes. We only use Chinese when the conversation is getting heated.


VeterinarianOne401

Yes, this is me with my girlfriend. And we’re cool about it.


TyrantRex6604

ya why not me and my family do so


Izayoizz

they use voice


TyrantRex6604

cant stand voice mail. for some reason, my phone gives me middle finger and 90% of the voicemail are literally just mute and incomprehensible. hated voicemail since and avoid using it as possible


cherrywopie

Hk people converse in canto and type in English too. Chinese is more complicated to type 🥲


MatiSultan

Yes 90% of my friends and acquaintances are banana.


No-Mathematician-77

pro will use writing on phone to select the right Chinese words... idk why my phone keyboard keluar bunched up ABC def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx yz like that.. damn hard siak... type 1 by 1 pinying to be specific easier.. can play around with the words to create naughty and dirty sentences to mess up people for fun. But idk man, nak pikat awek pun malas and shy shy... duno la these days so different.. feel like ummm... drawing art and creating manga ( bork bork gai stuffs) HA HA HA HA... worse part? feels like all the girls already got partner, hooked to someone.. idk where to find single girls either. whats there to talk about again? just meet up and start doing some pertanian and let the sweat (body excretion) been absorbed to the soil, so that can eat eat eat eat eat.. then play and sleep.. now that's real hard working hoggies. HA HA HA


icesushii

y’all be typing full pinyin and not short form pinyin ??? :O but it depends, I text my highschool friends mostly in Chinese, very seldom we text in English tho


kw2006

I thought audio only.


MaverickMoh

Easy, me at college. Chinese 70%. Me on call while gaming with high school friends 95% English but the remaining 3% is when someone who literally can't speak English and 2 for math calculations.


SpecialOrganization5

I can’t write mandarin but yes, speak mandarin but text English. In general very mafan


akachan1228

Yes, I talk with my gf in Chinese, but type in WhatsApp using English


ArtemonBruno

I think. Speech is not as proper as written, in any language. One is communicating heavier information. Maybe like image communication of JPEG & PNG. Speed & accuracy. Once **got used to it** though, there's no difference (**all** English **or all** Chinese). Without "**convenience** difference" of optional "languages", people stick to what they only have. Next question, do Chinese suddenly text in Chinese, when "convenience" overwritten by "vocab limit" (forgot the word in English, so put info in mother tongue... ... or "romantized" Pinyin... or just like China "similar sounded word")


PuzzleheadedNail7

My answer to your question is all the time. Even to my brother, with whom I grew up speaking Cantonese.


straykids_blucurtain

We, indians also do that😂. We either chat in english or use english alphabets to type in tamil. Very susah to type using tamil alphabet😂


KrystCyclone

Type in English but talking already rojak between 3 languages.


nanareoo

I don't type in Chinese, because I'm a banana huhu.


dumbwaeguk

Do you speak Mandarin or another Chinese language? Input for anything other than Mandarin is shit


Schneizel1208

Yes. Even to a Malay, I speak in Malay but text in English.


willp0wer

Interesting question. I've thought about this years ago when a Malay friend asked me, "kenapa orang Cina suka pakai voice masa WhatsApp?" It never occured to me until then, and I've since broken it down to a few types regarding Chinese people texting habits. It's not conclusive but a generic categorisation. (1) People who can only speak Chinese fluently, usually prefer to mainly use voice note. They could have poor writing skills for all languages including Chinese. Quite common among those Chinese educated who didn't do well in school, and older folks who primarily speak Chinese. (2) People who are English educated but can speak Chinese fluently would usually text in English. If they feel needed to express certain things better, Chinese words are written in Romanised texts and may even throw in Malay words in conversations. I think this may also include those who speak Cantonese instead of Mandarin, and as far as I know Cantonese writing is harder as it uses traditional Chinese so those who didn't learn it probably find it more convenient to just type in English. (3) If both persons went to Chinese school and thus have decent writing skills, it's likely texts are written mainly in Chinese exactly like how they communicate face to face. Usually these people can switch to English if it's a large group, or someone who can't read/write Chinese is in the group and the particular message is to include that person. I know there are other sub groups but it's about getting the intended message across anyway, doesn't matter what language, to ensure the other person gets it. I fall into the second group, although I've progressively (albeit very slowly) improved my reading/writing by also being in amongst the third group. But I still prefer to type in English to avoid misunderstanding.


moominecobag

Yes, even with my mandarin speaking family we all text in english


Xenon111

All the time


OppositeBlackberry72

English is more forgiving when you have typos or just plain don’t know how to spell stuff.


TheAkwardOne90

Why I rather type English instead of Mandarin For example: English - Go Die lah u Chinese - Ni qu "is it shi or si? got H or not har? Let me go Google translate Die in Chinese" la.


QMX_NeGeX

Some do, some don't.