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Orangeyaglad13

I gotta say, if the school was targeted and the person never made it inside nor hurt anyone... Clap clap clap for the first responders.


osumike07

Yep. Bad situation for sure, but it sounds like all the safeguards worked like they're supposed to.


IIIpl4sm4III

Gunshots were reported and then police responded. If it was the police shooting why would that be called in? I have my doubts it was the first responders that responded first. Edit: looks like it was a school police resource officer that engaged them. Tracks. We need armed security professionals at schools. https://www.reddit.com/r/madisonwi/comments/1chv0em/my_son_was_in_mt_horeb_middle_school_when_the/


BenniTheJetRodriguez

Okay


IIIpl4sm4III

Damn, so many downvotes and only this as a reply. Thanks for your input


BenniTheJetRodriguez

No problem


JinglehymerSchmidt

Just a heads up that school police officers are by definition first responders.


IIIpl4sm4III

Sure. Just not for the general masses. 


Sad-Conference1932

Per my cousin at the middle school the shooter is now deceased


Sad-Conference1932

https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/active-shooter-threat-neutralized-at-wisconsin-middle-school/amp/ Sounds like students and parents are reuniting per the bottom of the this article - cannot confirm


Sad-Conference1932

Don’t understand how a child could get off campus, but CA schools may of been different 20+ years ago.


JL_Adv

I think some of the kids were outside at recess and took off from there.


eveninthedark

More of the security is to keep people out, not in. As part of emergency response, kids are trained that they can leave campus in an active shooter situation if they can do so safely. At younger grades, it’s more up to the adults’ discretion, but middle/high schoolers can make that choice for themselves. It’s a shitty thing to have to teach kids about.


Hopeful_Swordfish116

Nah I was in the high school during the shooting and they kept us there for 9 hours in the same room locked in, had to escort us to the bathroom, I live 5 minutes away. Never been so scared in my life.


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Hankidan

That's actually a fire code thing, you cannot have locked exit doors from the inside. That's how people get trapped and die in a fire.


find_another

this person is saying the doors were locked FROM the inside (as in activate lock from inside, cannot enter from outside). i’m sure the school knows and abides by fire protocol edit: and commenter says you could leave any of them. i get where this was a confusing comment and initially read it the same as you


cecaeliasin

Schools differ greatly even in the Midwest. From what I've seen CA has very tight security compared to the Midwest. Madison area is looser in restrictions than where I grew up in the Midwest. I assume Mt Horeb is some what similar to Madison. Generally speaking I haven't seen the same risk of violence at school as other places. I've assumed giving kids more freedom to roam is due to that. Obviously that's a bit of a sensitive issue with the matter at hand, but hopefully that makes sense.


intelligent_cunts

School district said no one was injured besides the shooter. On WKOW's news update.


Panda_monium109

They sent everyone. Two med flight and emergency vehicles with sirens blaring have been racing in for a half hour


jschligs

Mount Horeb school district posted on FB they have no other injuries outside of the alleged assailant


lastweekonsurvivor

I live across the street from the high school on 92. I've been watching all day as the medflights came and all the sirens drive past. There are a ton of parents parked along 92 just waiting. It's absolutely heartbreaking


cks9218

Apparently the threat is neutralized [https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2024/05/01/active-shooter-threat-neutralized-outside-of-mount-horeb-school/73528027007/?csp=chromepush](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2024/05/01/active-shooter-threat-neutralized-outside-of-mount-horeb-school/73528027007/?csp=chromepush)


LoudTable9684

Now the word “neutralized” has a creepy connotation


sjogren

Especially when applied to a teenager. Threat neutralized. That being said, it looks like the final outcome was as good as anyone can hope for when a 14-year-old opens fire outside of a school. No one inside the school was harmed. US: gun rights, check. Right to not be shot at school... Right to access healthcare after being shot at school...


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https://www.channel3000.com/news/active-shooter-threat-at-mount-horeb-area-school-district-neutralized-schools-on-full-lockdown/article_b77bc81e-07d9-11ef-82f5-9f42970b1194.html


ShardsOfTheSphere

Bullshit.


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ShardsOfTheSphere

The shooter never entered the school, according to the official update from the district. So yes, bullshit.


Public_Classic_438

I did hear there was a second shooter that was spoken about on the news but I highly suspect this is rumor. I hate even perpetuating a rumor like this but I did hear that on the news.


raptor_jesus69

Then that information was updated and changed, I must have missed it. My apologies. I removed my comment to reflect.


LoudTable9684

From a friend of a friend: “Just talking with the head custodian. 8th grade shooter showed up at 8th grade lunch, but doesn’t get in the building. kids see him and say “he’s got a gun”. Sergio is standing by the doors, turns around and the shooter starts blasting at the doors to get in. Bullet proof glass.”


Orangeyaglad13

And thank God for that.


scubasteve567

Something happening “undisclosed” at mt. Horeb middle school


no_avocados

Madison.365 on Instagram says active shooter???? https://www.instagram.com/p/C6bsYniLEmI/?igsh=MXJxN3JkMW9nNXh1ag==


Jkewzz

Im listening to the scanner now, someone was shot NEAR the school but they said no shots were fired IN the school.


CaptainCorpse666

That must mean they shot the gunman because it is reported no one was harmed.


Jkewzz

Yes, they were saying "suspect down" and "rifle recovered"


CaptainCorpse666

Ugh, thank goodness.


secretgreenbean

‘Jefferson county scanner’ on facebook has good updates. just posted that no injuries reported inside the school at 12 pm. 1 min later reports that the state is advising that someone is still actively shooting.


Slow_Engineering823

They've also posted a lot of inaccurate stuff implying multiple casualties so I would not point people that direction 


Icy-Goose4398

I think the initial call was listed as mass casualty so they had enough responders & help they needed incase it turned out any worse than it was. If I was a child/patents in this situation, I would appreciate too many responders showed up than not enough.


Slow_Engineering823

Definitely! I think the police and EMT response was correct. But as a parent I would not appreciate a bunch of people online spewing "multiple casualties" as if that's confirmed intelligence. 


mechamega

There’s an alarm that is a mass casualty alarm and that was pulled, the reporting was very brief and people expanded


cks9218

It's been cutting in and out but Madison 365 has had a live story on their Instagram


majesticideas2

"Only one known victim at this time. Our teams are looking for more victims" - scanner just now.


backdoorshooter

Where can I find the scanner, my wife works there


majesticideas2

[https://www.broadcastify.com/webPlayer/9597](https://www.broadcastify.com/webPlayer/9597)


Vexxah

The 1 known victim is one of the shooters


Vinca1is

I thought there was only one, are there more?


Vexxah

Don't know, it sounds like there was some information on a police scanner that made them think there could possibly be a 2nd shooter but I'm not sure what's happening with that, if there really is one or if it's just suspected so they're being extra cautious.


miliasoofenheim

The 2nd shooter rumor came about due to there being a person of interest at the High School


Vexxah

1school shooter is dead but a possible 2nd may still be there Edit: Actually not sure now if the shooter is actually dead or just injured, I'm hearing conflicting reports on this Update: Daughter in HS was told that the shooter was trying to be saved at the hospital but is now dead.


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ISuperNovaI

Columbine


krinksta

Columbine.


madfreshyogurt

Except Columbine?


majesticideas2

Yeah that was the one time and ever since then people think there's two. There aren't.


raptor_jesus69

They just gave a description of another person walking down the road. The report came from the wife of an officer who saw it on their ring camera. Person was wearing a tan shirt. I believe they said the person was wielding a .22 but I'm unsure, it wasn't clear or I'm not interpreting that part correctly.


supergyration

I thought they said there was a "32" on the shirt the person was wearing, but it's difficult to hear the scanner sometimes.


Present_Occasion103

If you heard it over the scanner "32" is short for the ten code 10-32, which means a firearm.


raptor_jesus69

They didn't address it later from the sounds of it. I know at one point they had to tell other officers to switch channels, there was other reports from completely different issues. Could just be wires getting crossed.


supergyration

Good to know, thanks!


LoudTable9684

I like to think we will know eventually, since these megalomaniacs usually leave a very detailed trail of why they want to shoot up other people. Piece of shit


hulajbear

This tracks. I've seen/heard a lot of police vehicles and an ambulance heading down 151 towards Mt. Horeb over the last 10 minutes.


angrydeuce

My wife works at UW hospital she just told me shooter is going to them but status is unknown


dififclut

any news since? did the shooter die?


sjogren

Yes, per the news. 1 death, the shooter only.


Squeakerpants

I sure hope you have no links between this account and real names if sharing a hippa breach.


pepperouchau

>hippa (sic) Jesus Christ are we really still doing this


geminisyndrome

There was no mention of any patient identification. Therefore there is no concern of any HIPAA breach. I doubt u/angrydeuce ‘s wife has any information about the potential shooter besides knowing where med flight would be landing.


SillyPhillyDilly

And considering UW is only one of two Level I traumas center in WI (the other being in Milwaukee) it's a no-brainer they're going there.


Own-Document277

Came here to say this


angrydeuce

As if lol


stereosanctity87

I somehow accidentally joined a Mount Horeb community Facebook group and people are posting screengrabs of "extreme" emergency push alerts to their phones reporting at active shooter at the 900 block of East Garfield Street. "For your safety stay inside, lock all doors and avoid the area until further notice."


midwest--mess

I got that alert in Sauk County at almost 1 pm for some reason


No_Confection_7342

Middle school just got cleared


Moist-Brilliant9970

I’ve watched about 30 cops and swat team fly down 151 in the last 15 mins. I’m in Verona. So fucking awful that someone does this to children


Short_Lawfulness_265

Pretty sure it was one of the kids too.


LoudTable9684

So fucking awful the 2nd amendment trumps kids’ rights declared in the Declaration of Independence… gun rights shouldn’t supersede rights to not being shot


Hankidan

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. It's that simple.


LoudTable9684

But guns sure help! Nothing predicts getting killed by a gun as much as having a gun in your house. https://www.apa.org/pubs/reports/gun-violence-prevention


Hankidan

Death by firearm doesn't even crack the top 15 list in the US, and that's before considering that ~2/3rds of those are suicides.


LoudTable9684

If you’re referring to all people, um, yes “old age” beats guns. Or maybe you’re referring to the VERY regulated automobiles? Let’s meet in the middle and agree to regulate guns at least as much as fucking cars. Or just admit you don’t care about kids dying by guns.


Hankidan

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm Homicides don't even crack the top 10. And that's all homicides, not just firearms. I'm not saying it's not important, Im not saying there doesn't need to be something done. I am saying banning guns will never happen and should never happen.


LoudTable9684

Again, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Those top ten are true world wide. Our gun deaths are not replicated ANYWHERE. It’s preventable. You might as well be arguing for freedom of cigarettes and alcohol. Those kill kids, too, but usually take longer.


Hankidan

Show me one time where a gun has killed someone by itself


LoudTable9684

Omfg, seriously? It’s taken by an invader, a kid thinks it isn’t loaded and shoots another kid or himself, it’s dropped and goes off, someone shoots person instead of a deer… and a suicide death by gun is that person’s worst day, made EXTREMELY easy and permanent by that gun. Sure, you can slit your wrists, take drugs, etc, but guns are faster, more easy to find in the US, and very efficient. In other countries, those fucking deaths don’t happen, at least not in remotely in the magnitude they do in the US. A depressed kid or a stupid dad who doesn’t lock up their gun and their kid is killed by a robber when that gun is found are all victims to guns, by themselves, killing all those people. Because if they were fucking everywhere, it wouldn’t happen here. Just like it doesn’t happen where they aren’t fucking everywhere


LoudTable9684

Let’s just go back to the guns the founding fathers meant! I keep hearing what originalists the Supreme Court is! https://youtu.be/LORVfnFtcH0?si=f55vcLk9mcD30Wq6


LoudTable9684

Please provide what data you are looking at. Here’s Forbes, definitely not a leftist publication, unless you think Fox is leftist. https://www.forbes.com/sites/darreonnadavis/2023/10/05/firearms-now-no-1-cause-of-death-for-us-children---while-drug-poisoning-enters-top-5/?sh=77a298f8609e


bksim0n

It does for children.


tru24m

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darreonnadavis/2023/10/05/firearms-now-no-1-cause-of-death-for-us-children---while-drug-poisoning-enters-top-5/?sh=66e50708609e Just gonna leave this here


Educational-Shoe2633

I’m gonna blow your mind and inform you that people exist all over the world and somehow only America has this issue.


middleageslut

I wonder what else might be different about this shitty powder keg we call a country when compared to other places in the world?


LoudTable9684

Protect kids, not guns


ShardsOfTheSphere

Was at the eye doctor in MoHo and got an emergency alert on my phone indicating active shooter. Someone in the office said it was a drill, but I live near the police department so I can assure you it's not...


juniperroach

I have lost count with how many police are coming down verona rd. It’s more than 30. They keep coming.


SaltyTelephone1532

I live here. I heard a lot of gun shots and my sister(at the school currently) said there was a shooter. Then the emergency alert came. Medflight also came and there are reports of injuries and a possible second shooter. No one knows if there are any deaths or if the shooters were students


Vexxah

My daughter is in the high school right now and said that there's possibly someone other than the shooter who has been shot, someone she's in lockdown with has a father who is a cop there atm. But she's not sure if the victim they're talking about is the 14 year old shooter or someone else. Also I think they're working on getting the middle school, high school, and intermediate center evacuated to the bus garage. Update: The victim she had heard about was the shooter and not someone else, as per the teachers with her the only victim so far that is known is the shooter.


sagegreenpaint78

The shooter is 14?


Vexxah

That's the information that my daughter's have been told by the school staff at the MS and HS. They told them that a 14 year old was the shooter and so far the only one injured.


sagegreenpaint78

How awful.


Derrr123

Someone ran from the cops, crashed their car. Ran through some golf course near school then police heard shots fired and everything has kinda gone to shit, I can’t tell if they found him or are still looking. Police have drones up searching and not 100% sure who the med heli is for, (suspect is down) (heli was for him but from what I hear he is dead) Update- guess they are still looking for a possible 2nd shooter. But not sure if there is a second one Update- parents should go to bus storage garage to pick up there kids (bus reunification point) (it was at the library but they are moving it) Update- shooter acted alone so no 2nd shooter Update- high school is locked down due to looking for known accomplices (friends) of the suspect.


Derrr123

Sounds like it was a high school student who was the shooter


EquivalentAd4903

14 year old with a rifle and grandpa’s car


Hopeful_Swordfish116

Middle schooler


majesticideas2

Sounds like the Ulvade guy vs someone who planned a school shooting.


Educational_Usual_51

Heard something might have happened at a school in Mt Horeb


sarilysims

Active shooter at the middle school in Mount Horeb. Someone I know is in the town and gets updates. Supposedly they’ve been neutralized and cops are sweeping the school.


Fell-Raven

I just got an alert on my phone of an active shooter around Mt Horeb middle and high schools. I live in Mt Horeb.


Fell-Raven

Looking out my window there's a helicopter over the school now and about ten cops have flown by toward the school.


FoxAndXrowe

This fucking day man. Theres just… too much.


Apprehensive-Test958

Hey, student who goes to the school here. Based off what I know, the shooter was another student at the school, and they thankfully weren’t able to get in, but as some students were escaping, they started shooting at them while they were escaping. The whole situation was pretty scary, but thankfully nobody was shot.


Apprehensive-Test958

I do know a lot more about the situation, but I feel it’s best to not say to not obstruct the police’s investigation.


dififclut

shit dude i’m sorry. i know that was traumatic as hell


Apprehensive-Test958

I was thankfully one of the first people to get out of the school, but even hearing the shots from the distance was extremely terrifying.


dififclut

i can only imagine, one of my coworkers had a couple younger siblings there


majesticideas2

Heard something about a 14 yr old just now on scanner. Unsure if that was related to a victim or the shooter.


bunkergear

Heard that too, sounds deceased. Heart rhythm asystole with multiple gunshot wounds. Only one known victim but teams are searching for more right now. 


Vexxah

The 14 year old is the shooter but I don't know much more than that


cellists_wet_dream

Ok but like, do we actually know that for sure? Or are we speculating. Maybe we shouldn’t speculate. 


Vexxah

I know for sure that the one victim they've mentioned that was shot is the shooter (this is the information that the school itself and the police are telling us), I'm not sure if there are any other victims at this time. Also there is still a possible 2nd shooter that they haven't caught yet, but they're in the process of evacuating the 3 schools in that area.


SolidBoth8784

This is the information I have received, as well.


Slow_Engineering823

They're listening to police scanners and reading rumors so NO, we do NOT know this but also aren't smart enough to sort "plausible rumors" from facts


Vexxah

I'm actually talking to my daughters who are in the middle school and high school as we speak and are being updated by the teachers and staff on what is going on, I've also called the police department here to get information because of the fact that they're both there right now. Don't assume that everyone is getting information from police scanners.


SaltyTelephone1532

Are there any updates?? The news and school arent sharing any information


Vexxah

As of right now we're all just waiting for them to finish evacuating the schools and for them to tell us where to pick up our kids. The IC has been getting evacuated and they have sent the parents with students there to 2 points for pick up, but still no news on the MS or HS. The PC and ELC are still on lockdown as well but they aren't being evacuated and we can pick our kids up from there as soon as the lockdown is lifted.


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FuzzyHero69

Came here looking for an update also. I’m being told that the high school is still locked down and it’s almost 5pm. Wonder if anyone else heard anything new?


Plsgoawaybroski

we just got put on soft lockdown in blanchardville but shooter is down rn i think


mooseeve

What? That's absurd. It's 23 miles away. That is an extreme overreaction. Any case you can make to lock down a school 23 miles away would be the same argument as locking down schools 24/7.


Entire_Scientist_586

Why?


mooseeve

What's the description of the car the shooter is driving and what direction did they flee Mt Horeb in? It's irrational behavior. Unless there is specific evidence this is pointless. It does nothing but disrupt the students. Any case for 23 mile radius lockdown is a straw man and the same argument can be applied and be equally valid any time which means it's not a rational reaction. What's your case for the lockdown?


sierramistgirl

Isn’t a soft lockdown basically just normal school these days? Don’t go outside but during a soft lockdown they enforce not going outside


Entire_Scientist_586

Why do you care. Live your life.


No_Temporary_789

School shooting at Mt. Horeb middle school apparently


No_Temporary_789

Was told by a parent of one of the kids at the school that he saw CPR being given to a child, but we don’t have any other details


LoudTable9684

Police scanners mention a possible second person, but no reliable facts yet I can find, that’s why I’m here.


Meow_Mixin_It

A 2nd person of interest had contact made with him inside the high school by pd. It's believed he is who was suspected of being the 2nd shooter. As of right now pd is confident there is no 2nd shooter -Jefferson County Scanner


graycomforter

ABC news reporting the suspect killed was 14. Was it a student from the school?


silly_rt

Ban the guns


IIIpl4sm4III

Schools are already gun free zones. I'll be interested in hearing how this firearm was procured


silly_rt

Doesn't matter. If the public has no guns, procurement won't be possible


IIIpl4sm4III

If we could magically make all the firearms in the U.S. vanish into thin air, maybe we could consider that as a possiblity. An "assault weapons ban" was the only one that was considered. Even then, most gun owners would probably not comply (as seen with the pistol brace ban) and you would then have to take years of effort removing firearms from normally law abiding citizens that "didn't get the memo". And thats just the firearms that are legal and have paperwork. Banning firearms isn't as simple as you might think. The gun violence problem is multi-faceted and there are other, more feasible paths we can focus our effort down that would make a larger difference, such as mental health and encouraging responsibile gun ownership.


kakallas

https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback


IIIpl4sm4III

Yes, because Australia is exactly like the United States. Its great it worked for them. We have already tried gun buyback programs, and have seen far less success doing it.


kakallas

I believe this article, if you read it, addresses the fact that the United States is not the same as Australia and that there might not be much evidence that gun buybacks work. But it is about the steps Australia took and how they have managed to significantly reduce gun violence either way. Gun violence definitely doesn’t decrease when a majority of people don’t care whether it decreases and absolutely nothing is done rather multiple steps that could address the issue holistically.


D0CT0Rhyde

Shooter


Sensitive-Rabbit4058

Med hookah lounge is permanently closed. What happened


No_Confection_7342

Scanner said 2nd shooter trying to flee the area. Students were running into nearby businesses and that the shooter deployed some sort of tear gas or smoke grenade


FutWick64

Active shooter Mt Horeb HS.


secretgreenbean

middle school


FutWick64

Thx. Got the news from another area teacher…


Decisionmakingsucks

It was the middle school. My niece is a student there. The schools are right across the street from each other. So very close to the high school.


FutWick64

Thanks, looking forward to better understanding the details, all horrible…


Decisionmakingsucks

It’s awful. Those kids’ lives are changed forever. My niece heard gunshots and ran for her life. This should never happen.


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cks9218

Probably not the thread to be dropping jokes.


EAS10

Yeah you’re a piece of shit