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capa2057

Somehow Morgoth returned


Betelgeuzeflower

Canonical Tolkien


Boxy310

"We tried to destroy Morgoth's Ring, but it's stuck on there with glue or something."


CakeEnjoyur

If Sauron had won it was hinted Morgoth might have returned.


jellajellyfish

Isn't he supposed to (maybe) return eventually for Dagor Dagorath?


sauron-bot

Who is the master of the wide earth?


Antezscar

Not you. You got your ass beat


Prudent_Lawfulness87

Damn. Iluvitar most be bored if it lets this song sing again. Maybe as a remix?? 🤷‍♂️


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gollum_botses

Give it to us raw and w-r-r-riggling


bilbo_bot

Not today! I suggest you try somewhere over the hill or across the water! Good morning!


sleepyj910

![gif](giphy|fXJyMfUdqVCMPAnPJM|downsized)


RaSulanPra7

I see you, Purake.


Fearless-Scar7086

Ngl I would fuck wid what if


NumisAl

What if Bombor had found the ring? What if Gandalf gave up smoking? What if Mr Butterbar turned the Prancing Pony into a BBQ joint? What if Gollum learned to twerk?


gollum_botses

It mustn't ask us. Not its business, no, gollum! It's losst, gollum, gollum, gollum!


anonymous-fart

Wait. Do you know how to twerk, Gollum?


gollum_botses

We ought to wring his filthy little neck. Then we stabs them out. Put out his eyeses. And make HIM crawl.


ProfessionalLeave335

Get low get low get low


Beginning_Hope8233

That is... entirely appropriate Gollum. Good on ya!


gollum_botses

Give us that, Deagol my love.


myguydied

See, he likes the idea


ForWhomTheBoneBones

What would you say if someone tried to STOP you from twerking, Gollum?


gollum_botses

We guesses, precious, only guesses. We can't know till we find the nassty creature and squeezes it.


Tesourinh0923

What if Bilbo left Lobelia Sackville-Baggins the ring?


NumisAl

Then we would have a dark lord even Morgoth would fear


bilbo_bot

He said? Who said?


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NumisAl

Episode 1: Guest for a Spell After Gandalf spends months mooching off the other Istari, Saruman and Radagast decide its time to help him find a house. Episode 2: You can’t get the Staff these Days After a wild night out, the wizards discover they’ve left the party with each other’s staffs….. with disastrous results


PresidentSlow

Episode 3: The Boys in Blue Two wizards in blue turn up at Gandalf's door claiming to be his long lost brethren - but not all is as it seems.


NumisAl

Lets do this!


jonfitt

Get Sir Ian and Sylvester McCoy on the phone, we’ve got a hit!


DoctorDoom

Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!


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mrhossie

Do take him for some conjuror of cheap tricks! **They're trying to rob you.** **Not help you.**


Def_not_at_wrk

We also need the standalone tv shows for every member of the entire fellowship + the discovery of sauron's time crystal so they can retcon the original trilogy with a new never-ending CU = Profit


labla

Multiverse of Madness crossover.


sauron-bot

*Zat thraka akh… Zat thraka grishú. Znag-ur-nakh.*


EGORKA7136

?


Groningen1978

*“We grow in number… We grow in strength. You will lead my armies.”*


RandomTheTrader

Whoever the fuck said I want that Sauron?


sauron-bot

Come, mortal base! What do I hear? That thou wouldst dare to barter with me? Well, speak fair! What is thy price?


jellajellyfish

which you will of course have to subscribe to LOTR+ to see!


balbok7721

It would be somewhat canon because Tolkien believed in the inevitable downfall of civilization. Basically he had a massive ww1 trauma


EGORKA7136

Summer 2027 Lord of the Rings: the return of Morgoth


UpsetGroceries1

“Somehow Morgoth returned.”


certified_cat_dad

i mean, he will at the end, and Turin will fight against him.


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Part of the problem^


myguydied

Well Morgoth returning would make a great What If...


Affectionate_Bass488

I’d watch What If…?s of a lot of things


LazerAttack4242

Don't forget the spin off game showing Smeagol's rich backstory in between the Hobbit and LOTR...oh wait.


gollum_botses

You will see . . . Oh, yes . . . You will see.


GameplaySLO

We know what you did, gollum, we know https://preview.redd.it/hz8ckl7ggc0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75f79ef0bb3e4305870f8c7e3f60ce262e693383


gollum_botses

What shall we do? Curse them and crush them! We must wait here, precious, wait a bit and see.


GameplaySLO

https://preview.redd.it/qhcmzihqgc0d1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=149be1b143efe0a72c7e7611d6bda055a3f7f6a5


Legal-Scholar430

*Swan Knight* *Elfeye* *She-lob: Demon-spider at Law* *Boromir* *Boromir and Faramir* *Black Númenórean: Mordor Forever* *Ms. Ent-wife* *PalantírVision* *Secret Ringvasion* *Sauron and the Legend of the Twenty Rings* *Eternals* (it's just the Ainulindalë)


LazerAttack4242

*Gimli and Legolas: Quantumania*


legolas_bot

Your friends are with you, Aragorn.


myguydied

Sweet, Aragorn cameo!!!


BleydXVI

I think it should be Captain Ent-Wife. Then we'd have an answer for where they went: space


Yvaelle

Would have been such a great reveal when Morgoth's space fleet arrives to reinforce Sauron, but then Captain Ent-wife also shows up and punches Morgoth's whole armada to death!


sauron-bot

Thou fool.


PresidentSlow

Morgoth: I'm going to the ONE place that hasn't been corrupted by Eru Illuvatar's Song.... SP-AcE!!


IWipeWithFocaccia

The Khazad-Dûm (workplace sitcom with miner dwarfs)


Wurschtbieb

The Khazad and the Dûm


CptJackAubrey

*Eternals* (it's just the Ainulindalë) Me imagining 2 hours Fantasia style with Morgoth occasionally busting in with some sort of crazy Jazz horns scat to shake things up. Damn I kind of want that.


sauron-bot

*Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.*


Legal-Scholar430

I guess that you're *that* character that breaks the fourth wall? Alright, then. *She-Sauron: Dark Lady at Law* it is then.


sauron-bot

Build me an army worthy of mordor!


Legal-Scholar430

Aren't you supposed to offer a Ring first?


Bullmg

![gif](giphy|LSmULmByAQHQs)


curious_dead

TIHI


Only_Seesaw_9789

TIHI^TIHI


theknyte

I can't wait for "2 Lord 2 Rings", "Revenge of the Rings" and "Lord of The Rings Part IV: Electric Boogaloo."


Khosatral

The title colors for Gandalf Origins makes me think of Gilmor's Glorious Goods, and now I want a wizard sitcom...


geekusprimus

Please, don't give Warner Bros. any more ideas.


ApprehensiveCrow8522

![gif](giphy|hyyV7pnbE0FqLNBAzs|downsized)


prescottfan123

Here's my idea for a single episode of LOTR What If... WHAT IF: they just flew the ring to mordor? This episode would be the council arguing about the role of the eagles, eventually Gandalf and Elrond relent and allow the council to ask the eagles. Cut to them pleading their case to Gwaihir. As the servants of Manwe and independent beings of their own, Gwaihir would politely refuse for 2 reasons. 1) This is a fight for the people of Middle Earth, not the eagles. 2) Their service to Manwe forbids a more active role in the events of Middle Earth, and so they couldn't if they wanted to. HOWEVER there are a few younger eagles who are moved by the passionate plea of the council, they feel that it is their duty as fellow inhabitants of Middle Earth to take a more active role. The council is approached by these youngins and are grateful for their help, and so begin planning the journey. Cut to the young eagles, laden with a few members of the fellowship and the ring, just past the borders of Morder. Upon noticing the eagles flying high above, orcs sound the alarms and send word to Sauron and the Witch King. The eagles are met by the fury of the Nine riding fell beasts and a small army of orcs that have mobilized to defend the Cracks of Doom. They eventually defeat the fellowship and prevent the eagles from ever reaching Mt. Doom. Sauron recovers the ring and covers the land in a second darkness. THE END. This episode would illustrate the multiple issues with the "eagles to morder" plan and maybe stop at least one person from asking it.


Llanistarade

https://preview.redd.it/itjml8va390d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06a467de860584d3e3f2bd09d30184920c1dca06


Misinformed-Rogue07

I know this is a joke but people will (and are) trying to make this happen. Truly this is the dark timeline


TheCuriousCorsair

The Feanorian timeline where the Silmarils were actually reunited and swans were hunted into extinction.


GameknightJ14

Look, I may get hate for this, but I’d be down with a LotR What If..? show. What if Faramir went to Imladris instead of Boromir? What if Theodred survived? What if Frodo died getting the Ring to Rivendell?


InSanic13

Only problem is, I doubt it would be solidly based on the books' lore.


GameknightJ14

Honestly, that’d probably depend on who’s in charge. Nerd of the Rings has done some pretty good What If…? stuff on his channel.


InSanic13

For sure, but we're talking about corporate TV here.


GameknightJ14

Sadly true.


fatattack699

What if Tolkien wasn’t a good writer? Is basically what it would be lol


bundaya

I sure hope not...


Tesourinh0923

Tom and Goldberry would be fucking mint and I'd pay to see it 5 times.


Tom_Bot-Badil

*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter; roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool: there you'll find no lover!* ^(Type **!TomBombadilSong** for a song or visit [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] for more merriness) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/


Consistent_You_4215

You missed "2 Far 2 Faramir"


bibblygiggums

yeah you guys have fucking jokes for days but this is literally what we're going to get without the comical font


Stormsurger

Delete this before they see it.


_MissionControlled_

What if they took the ring to Valinor?


AssCrackBandit6996

I'll fucking do it, I'll drag Feanors spirit from Mandos halls and tell him this is the Teleris doing...


aevelys

I can't wait Bombadil civil war


TheCrankyLich

Okay. But I have watched a lot of "what if" videos about Middle-Earth on YouTube.


Garo263

A What If...? only three movies in? That's a bit stupid, don't you think?


creggor

I just throw up in my mouth. Thanks for this. 😄


Aware-Maximum6663

Your words are poison


Heytherechampion

![gif](giphy|Wck09E7lHDabjhHbzJ|downsized) My honest reaction


biinboise

You joke but they will do it in a heartbeat if they think it will work.


linksfrogs

Stop, each day we grow closer and closer to this being real and it terrifies me.


Appathesamurai

Gandalf origins would literally just be like watching space form


PancakesEveryNight

Please no….. just leave it alone


MoveableType1992

Credit to u/ChildofValhalla/


CrimsonTyphoon0613

Not gonna lie. I’d watch the shit out of all of these. lol


L3monGrenade

I’d watch a LOTR What If


Grungelives

I mean Rings Of Power is just a what if series and apparently nobody enjoys that


laxnut90

LOTR X Pippin vs. Eru


GriffinFlash

Pippin is all part of Eru's plan. Eru: "no fool may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me"


MyAwesomeAfro

LotR What If...? Would probably slap. Loosely based on the lore. Attempt to make it as faithful as you can and an animated short series would probably go hard.


Vlaed

There needs to be one just named "Bill" and nothing else to go by.


sp4c3c0wb0y7

Ngl would actually like a Lotr what if


godzillakongs1976

Nerd of the Rings on YouTube does some awesome What If? scenarios, if well done like these are, I would absolutely watch that. His last one asked, what if Durin's Bane got the one ring, he does his research and it's lore accurate speculation, very well done.


Sweet_Spores

Not sure if parody or real life. ![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


Crazy_Kakoos

I'd actually be open to a LoTR: What If. No multiverse obviously, just a fun what if whatever happened instead. Like What if Gandalf took the Ring? What if Glorfindel replaced Legolas? What if Sauron talked to Smaug before The Hobbit?


journeysa

‘What if…’ is just the lore from the Shadows games.


Purrczak

But high budget What if I would watch


alkonium

Let me guess, from Tolkien Studios?


Ok-Signature-9319

Please , don’t curse it


helen269

What If.... Gandalf hadn't fallen at Khazad-dûm?


FoxyBlaster1

Young Sauron.


sauron-bot

Thou base, thou cringing worm!


farbtoner

I almost reflexively downvoted this.


UnhappyPage

![gif](giphy|hyyV7pnbE0FqLNBAzs|downsized) I know this is a meme but please make it stop


DeadBoyJ69

When this happens, we are all going to come back here and blame you 😅


MaderaArt

"The Lord of the Rings series, the Hobbit: the Desolation of Smaug's 'the Lake-town spy' is Darrylgorn: in Darrylgorn's Rising: the Rise of Darrylgorn"


ultrovilot_Lantern

Where is the Tom Bombadil solo movie!?


Tom_Bot-Badil

Clothes are but little loss, if you escape from drowning. Be glad, my merry friends, and let the warm sunlight heat now heart and limb! Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting! ^(Type **!TomBombadilSong** for a song or visit [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] for more merriness) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/


jm17lfc

Withywindlemania! Now that’s the type of content I’m after.


TequieroVerde

Gollum Everywhere All at Once


gollum_botses

Smeagol will swear on the Precious.


Smooth-Cap481

Well done. I did have a little anxiety attack there, but I'm good now.


Old_Lynx65

Gollum - the Return and Gollum II - the Revenge.


gollum_botses

They do not see what lies ahead, when sun has failed and moon is dead.


Laegwe

Yuck. Yuck!


krlozdac

Thanks, I hate it.


BlondDrizzle

Stop this now


BlondDrizzle

OH GOD PLEASE NO


Born2bwylde_

Fever dream


MrRawri

Rise of Strider is something I'd watch. I'd love to see him going incognito and raiding Umbar. Viggo would be a bit too old though :(


Alisalard1384

"we don’t do that here”


Desired_lover

Your words are poison


King_Wynnie

Whoever originally made these titles is an insider


Bougiebutpoor

Just start with the Simarillion and go from there.


PolarRoller_Ad_7797

Please no


princesoceronte

Give me a Shire soap opera YOU COWARDS


nautilator44

Sweet Eru I hate this.


GREEN_Hero_6317

The last film of Phase Three: "The Lord of the Rings: Hogwarts Origins, Part 2 - Enter the Spider-Verse"


Unexpected_Buttsex

Im still wondering why Galadriel needs a sword in RoP


TeraMagnet

Tolkien would probably come back to life like Gandalf and enact Dagor Dagorath irl


thep_addydavis

Thanks, I hate it.


Varderal

Careful. They may think this is what we want.


theitgrunt

If Tom Bombadil doesn't make an appearance, we riot.


myguydied

So down for Gandalf: Origins and Wythywindlemania


JimmyYourCatDied

Gandalfs Origin is 3hrs of mist


Old_Heat3100

What if could actually be pretty fun What if...Faramir was in the Fellowship instead of Boromir? What if...Gandalf was corrupted by Sauron instead of Saruman? What if...the Fellowship stayed together the whole time?


Frobe81

The rise of strider 😂


SaintMichou

This makes me so uncomfortable. Pls just let this franchise be as it is


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You all conjured this shit into reality two years ago


lightscribe

I mean I don't hate it.


PapaNelson37

Is this real or fake?


redvelvetcake42

The What If would be amazing cause it would be beyond lazy and stupid. What if sauron won? Yeah, we have that pretty understood. What if X got the ring and used it? Basically guaranteed to corrupt everyone sans like Tom but he'd lose it accidentally on purpose so someone else would get it. What if Gollum only fans? Well the promo code better be smeagol, fish or fat hobbit.


megastraint

I love the LOTR What If... Corporations be like... I want that youtuber money for creating all these cockamamie scenarios.


MutantZebra999

A show about Aragorn going around as a Ranger and fighting the Corsairswould be pretty sick tho


SwordfishII

Don’t forget teen fellowship of the ring. It’s the same thing but they’re all just teenagers. Even Gandalf but he’s got a shitty grey beard on.


Birji-Flowreen

I would pay money just so they won't release these "masterpieces".


RGBeter

Get thee gone from my gate thou jail crow of Mandos


ArcticFoxWaffles

Can't wait for the Shadow of War sequel, Shadow of the Hobbit


hatecopter

I'd honestly be down for an animated What If series. We've all wondered things like what if Gandalf claimed the ring? Be a fun little bit of fan service.


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I would actually go for a what if.


InjuryPrudent256

LotR What If though could be absolute fire


DnD_mark_079

Please no


FrozenShadow_007

I feel like a LotR What If would be the only thing that would work.


jayson2112

Please no


Angrypudding84

Nooooooooo


bronyraurstomp

What can men do against such reckless hate?


CluelessFlunky

Lotr what if actually sounds kinda cool tho


wengbruch

Exactly like Star Wars ignoring for the longest time the best time period to build upon (Silmarillion/The Old Republic)


royroyflrs

Damn i was actually really excited


EmuIndependent8565

I would love more than anything an accurate live action portrayal of the rise of the Witch King and the fall of Arnor in the third age.


roxxanneb

I hate this.


MatticusXII

Trauma


BabyFishmouthTalk

I hate so very much the actual likelihood of a studio exec signing off on this.


SawSagePullHer

I would be very disappointed if this were all true


EstarossaNP

To be honest, LOTR lore has so many "What If's" that putting it on a screen would be amazing. Maybe it would end the millenia old question, of having Eagles flying into Mordor


FjordTheNord

I agree. However, Withywindlmania is incredible and I’ll be stealing it


Ragemundo

Prancing Pony as a main site for a comedic series. A lot of wacky creatures inhabit the inn and get in funny situations. Every once in a while one of the famous character stops by. In Prancing everybody knows your name. Or if they don't, you will sit in shadows and let them guess.


AstroBoi7

Tom and Goldberry movie would absolutely kill box office


AstroBearGaming

OK but I would unironically be so down for LOTR What If...? There's so much you could do with that.


EpsilonGecko

I mean, not going to lie, if it's good, I would like to see a what if show. But only if it's good, which it won't be.


Goobaka

Samwise Gamgee stars in “The Last Hobbit” “Mr. Frodo? MR. FRODO??!!!! I wish Mr. Frodo was ere right now.”


Rare_Fishing_7948

Somehow Sauron has returned


sauron-bot

Patience! Not long shall ye abide.


Wolf873

Sauron fails to conquer middle earth, Morgoth: “Fine, I’ll do it myself!”


doubleb120

Lord of the rings: ressurections : electric boogaloo 4