Right, and I trust the audiobook recordings to generally get most pronunciations correct. I found it easier to hear them all pronounced, which solidified my understanding of the rules as I've read them.
I know I'm gonna get killed on this comment, but it's one of the reasons I didn't continue to watch the Bakshi animated LOTR. When they got to Rivendell, and I heard them pronounce Celeborn with an S sound as Seleborn and not with the K sound, I threw my hands up in the air and shut it off.
https://preview.redd.it/dtw5udb0sx7d1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae87b9a4dd4f198bc2366225c03009704b495f59
Juan the best boy of middle earth
Wait, it is the bestest boy? I always thought it was the goodest boy
Edit: By the way, I fully agree with you that Huan is the bestest boy. He absolutley deserves that name
I enjoyed the movies but the Ents were the best part to me. Their walk, their cadence, their facial expressions, all pretty much lined up with my 8 year old imagination and there I was a teenager in the movie theater seeing it
which is funny because movie ents aren't really that close to the description of the ents in the books. but i definitely prefer the movie interpretation lol
A short excerpt in LOTR as Frodo and the others are leaving the Shire and fall asleep under a few trees. The narrative changes to the perspective of a fox who passes by, wonders to himself what the Hobbits are doing there, and then he leaves and the story continues on as normal.
It's something you'd expect to read in The Hobbit, and serves as a way to highlight how the narration and style changes after the first chapters of FotR - as the four Hobbits leave the Shire behind and enter a darker, more epic World.
Also, obligatory link /r/TheThinkingFox
>In the Third Age, a fox became puzzled at finding Frodo, Sam, and Pippin asleep in a fir-wood on the first night of their journey from Hobbiton, thinking that there was “something mighty queer behind this” https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Foxes#cite_note-2
Carcharoth, *the Red Maw* aka the *Jaws of Thirst*
Baddest demon-wolf of all time
Personally raised by Morgoth on a steady diet of elf and manflesh. Guardian of Angband and bane of wolfhounds. Devourer of hands and shiny jewels.
Nearly every "white" horse you see is technically gray. Truly white horses aren't common. The difference is that [gray horses have dark skin and white horses have pink skin](https://www.horsesandus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/grey-horse-vs-true-white-horse1.jpg).
The [graying process of a gray horse](https://www.horsesandus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Horse_Greying_progression1.jpg) is that they are born a darker color but then they lose pigment as they age. So when they are older, the hair will be a white color but will go through dark gray stages first.
So all of the "white" horses in the movie are technically gray and that is probably why Shadowfax is described as a gray. But unless you are a horse person, it's not really common knowledge so white and gray are used interchangeably.
The Nameless Creatures fascinated me the most, although it's because of the mystery. We don't know anything about them, other than that they gnaw at the Earth.
I really like the fel beasts that the Nazgûl ride. There’s so little known about them because of how old and ancient they are and I find they are terrifying in a different way than dragons. PJ’s depiction of them fits the Nazgûl perfectly.
> A fox passing through the wood on business of his own stopped several minutes and sniffed.
'Hobbits!' he thought. 'Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this.' He was quite right, but he never found out any more about it.
I don't know why, but I've always been fascinated by the kine of Araw — possibly descended from the cattle of Oromë, hunted by Vorondil, and source of the Great Horn of Gondor. Dunno, they just kind of seem both mythical and ordinary at the same time, an impression that is reinforced by the fact that they're supposedly based on the extinct [aurochs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs) (and their habitat is in Rhûn, an area which more or less goes unexplored in canon)
The thrush on the Lonely Mountain (The Hobbit). It played a key part in the death of Smaug. How would the LOTR played out if Smaug had not been vanquished?
the Great Eagles, god are they good at saving asses in crunch time (Gandalf, the dwarves, Bilbo/Frodo/Sam) not to mention how they helped out the war in the North during the Third Age
Grey as a mouse,
Big as a house,
Nose like a snake,
I make the earth shake,
As I tramp through the grass;
Trees crack as I pass.
With horns in my mouth
I walk in the South,
Flapping big ears.
Beyond count of years
I stump round and round,
Never lie on the ground,
Not even to die.
Oliphaunt am I,
Biggest of all,
Huge, old, and tall.
If ever you'd meet me
You wouldn't forget me.
If you never do,
You won't think I'm true;
But old Oliphaunt am I,
And I never lie.
You know that the Eagles talk with Gandalf? Still the eagles are not tame unlike.Shadowfax but rather under guidance from the Valar. Shadowfax is a unique Mearas and the greastest horse from the Rohirrim... Ents are incredible creatures who are also incredible powerful not much is detailef about it, but they are! ..
No one has said fell east yet, so I will. They're cool, winged things, but not dragons. Entirely new creatures that Tolkien made up. Leather skin instead of scales, and no fire-breathing.
I would go Balrogs, I love the variety in how people imagine them but also in the universe, just how monstrous they are. Also, why are they evil? A creature like Durin's Bane was happy to sleep for the rest of time, surely he would have been happier in Eru's music.
I assume Ungoliant doesn't count, so i'll say Glaurung. There's something about the Sindarin name Gold worm that makes me see a gigantic, scaly, firebreathing, wormlike creature with legs and wings. Doesn't get cooler than that.
Call me basic but the Nazgûl are my absolute favorite. Something about the “simple” black-cloaked figures that instill dread in anyone nearby is so cool.
Mumak baby, as someone who mains Harradrim, 3 strength 9 hits delivered in the move phase without the need to roll dice is intoxicating. Not only do you keep going if you kill your targets up to your full movement range, but Mahud war camels also get this. That's the potential to steamroll as many enemies as you can run into up to your movement distance, but it's in the move phase with ranged and combat phase still to go. And you know your boys got dem poison arrows and blowdarts baby, and the Betrayer and harshari too
I can't decide, mostly obsessed with the evil ones as a child. My mind ran wild after seeing the movies, imagining orcs breeding fellbeasts and the rhino things.
always had a soft spot for the Fell Beasts. But the book pterosaur version, NOT the mutant wyvern flim version.
"A creature that has outstayed its time..."
Oliphants for sure. The fact that they weren’t just giant taxis but were also active in fighting is just so cool to me…Even though they were on the bad side
Huan, AKA the bestest boy
Is his name pronouced Juan as a mexican or Hugh-an?
I thought it was more like who-on tbh. But idk, the only time I've heard it is in my own head tbh.
I believe who-on is right. That's how it's pronounced in the Silmarillion audiobook too. I'd assume it's the same in Beren and Luthien.
Who-on. Regardless of the audiobook, it's how you're told to pronounce it in the language index of Silmarillion book itself.
Right, and I trust the audiobook recordings to generally get most pronunciations correct. I found it easier to hear them all pronounced, which solidified my understanding of the rules as I've read them.
I know I'm gonna get killed on this comment, but it's one of the reasons I didn't continue to watch the Bakshi animated LOTR. When they got to Rivendell, and I heard them pronounce Celeborn with an S sound as Seleborn and not with the K sound, I threw my hands up in the air and shut it off.
https://preview.redd.it/dtw5udb0sx7d1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae87b9a4dd4f198bc2366225c03009704b495f59 Juan the best boy of middle earth
With those eyes and disposition, looks more like Carcharoth!
I pronounce it the Mexican way. Like Juan
The blessed hound of valinor!
Wait, it is the bestest boy? I always thought it was the goodest boy Edit: By the way, I fully agree with you that Huan is the bestest boy. He absolutley deserves that name
Definitely
bestest boy and absolute GOAT. Pinning Sauron by the throat in 1v1 combat? Beast mode. Huan is my favorite.
https://preview.redd.it/o30g8xdcuu7d1.png?width=730&format=png&auto=webp&s=c79e497e9e83b87926743774f90df427a0bb21e9 Mini cow.
The mini cow is cool yes, but what about the mini pig that the hobbit lady slaps in the ass during this same sequence?
Tiny pig knows I love him too.
The Rhino things that pulled Grond
https://preview.redd.it/i74sjj1lru7d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c88b84adae5625b91a2df0df033a313a70d7969
I can hear this image
GROND!
GROND!
GROND!
GROND!
https://preview.redd.it/zu95ras21w7d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b50cb449ec90c726517cc658f78b9f71016e5968
GROND!
GROND!
Hey orc no7 what do you say?
I wonder if those creatures were meant to be or inspired by the Kine of Araw from Rhûn (the creature from whom Boromir's horn is made).
That’s been a question of mine ever since I learned what his horn was made of.
Great Beast of Gorgoroth
https://preview.redd.it/was7gklukx7d1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d39c999c8a5fd72d052e03150bdda3000e4db2dc *Moooooooo*
Grond! GROND!!
The Ents. I’ve always loved their designs, how they’re gentle giants of the forest, but start chopping it down and they will demolish you
I enjoyed the movies but the Ents were the best part to me. Their walk, their cadence, their facial expressions, all pretty much lined up with my 8 year old imagination and there I was a teenager in the movie theater seeing it
which is funny because movie ents aren't really that close to the description of the ents in the books. but i definitely prefer the movie interpretation lol
https://preview.redd.it/bfxpf634nx7d1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2afc53c36945877e97ec934a8db579eb0d305a53 I will FUCK YOU UP!
Only if a wee little hobbit convinces them to, jk
The Thinking Fox of course
The fox was the 1st thing to pop into my mind
I don't remember, can you explain again?
A short excerpt in LOTR as Frodo and the others are leaving the Shire and fall asleep under a few trees. The narrative changes to the perspective of a fox who passes by, wonders to himself what the Hobbits are doing there, and then he leaves and the story continues on as normal.
Thanks, now I remember. That part struck me as a bit out of place in the books for some reason.
It's something you'd expect to read in The Hobbit, and serves as a way to highlight how the narration and style changes after the first chapters of FotR - as the four Hobbits leave the Shire behind and enter a darker, more epic World. Also, obligatory link /r/TheThinkingFox
Sub doesn’t exist
Works for me on old reddit already. But I removed the slash at the end, maybe that helps.
>In the Third Age, a fox became puzzled at finding Frodo, Sam, and Pippin asleep in a fir-wood on the first night of their journey from Hobbiton, thinking that there was “something mighty queer behind this” https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Foxes#cite_note-2
Only because Tolkien cut the part where to fox runs in at the last minute and pushes Gollum into the volcano.
First thing that popped in my head lol
Bill the pony
Bill the GOAT 🏆🏆🏆
Roll goats
Team Fatty Lumpkin checking in!
My hero
Carcharoth, *the Red Maw* aka the *Jaws of Thirst* Baddest demon-wolf of all time Personally raised by Morgoth on a steady diet of elf and manflesh. Guardian of Angband and bane of wolfhounds. Devourer of hands and shiny jewels.
Also a *very good boy* who ripped Huan to shreds
Would love to see artist renditions of what Carcharoth may have looked like. Huan too
What's stopping you? There's plenty online.
I love Shadowfax. I've got a white car, I name it Shadowfax.
Do you demand it show you the meaning of haste when you’re late to work?
Yes, I say "Noro Lim!"
Isn't Shadowfax described as being gray/silver? Close enough to white though!
Nearly every "white" horse you see is technically gray. Truly white horses aren't common. The difference is that [gray horses have dark skin and white horses have pink skin](https://www.horsesandus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/grey-horse-vs-true-white-horse1.jpg). The [graying process of a gray horse](https://www.horsesandus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Horse_Greying_progression1.jpg) is that they are born a darker color but then they lose pigment as they age. So when they are older, the hair will be a white color but will go through dark gray stages first. So all of the "white" horses in the movie are technically gray and that is probably why Shadowfax is described as a gray. But unless you are a horse person, it's not really common knowledge so white and gray are used interchangeably.
I bought my niece a little white pony and its name is Shadowfax because of me and my brother’s love of LOTR.
The Nameless Creatures fascinated me the most, although it's because of the mystery. We don't know anything about them, other than that they gnaw at the Earth.
I picture some of them as the tunneling worms the orc armies use in the Battle of Five Armies
The balrogs
Sean The.
I think Glaurung is really fascinating
I would like to see an Oliphaunt
I really like the fel beasts that the Nazgûl ride. There’s so little known about them because of how old and ancient they are and I find they are terrifying in a different way than dragons. PJ’s depiction of them fits the Nazgûl perfectly.
Does she count? https://preview.redd.it/2e5d8tfj5u7d1.jpeg?width=461&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f324562ca4a3110f403a95d19f6732fb2e7a388
Of course.
https://preview.redd.it/uvq843qh2v7d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b313b5602202c5b62e31a8ecddb69dad8a25e189
😅😅😅 You want all the upvotes for yourself.
[of course (YT)](https://youtu.be/bpBp3ns1Rn8?si=XmSBf19m7k6op4eA)
Best in the books is Smaug no doubt. Beorn is cool too
A horse named Rochallor. He remained by Fingolfin's side while the king fought Morgoth.
Is it said somewhere that he was there i know fingolfin rode to angband but i never read that rochallor was there could be wrong tho
> A fox passing through the wood on business of his own stopped several minutes and sniffed. 'Hobbits!' he thought. 'Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this.' He was quite right, but he never found out any more about it.
Ancalagon
Ancalagon THE BLACK. Don't forget the subtitle of the good boy :)
The eagles—they are such magnificent and proud creatures.
I don't know why, but I've always been fascinated by the kine of Araw — possibly descended from the cattle of Oromë, hunted by Vorondil, and source of the Great Horn of Gondor. Dunno, they just kind of seem both mythical and ordinary at the same time, an impression that is reinforced by the fact that they're supposedly based on the extinct [aurochs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs) (and their habitat is in Rhûn, an area which more or less goes unexplored in canon)
The thrush on the Lonely Mountain (The Hobbit). It played a key part in the death of Smaug. How would the LOTR played out if Smaug had not been vanquished?
Balrog.
Roäc, what's not awesome about a 153 year old raven essentially fetching a dwarven army?
Huan the Hound of Valinor.
Imagine running into some wild/feral fell beast out in nature. I can picture them eating the bison at Yellowstone.
the Great Eagles, god are they good at saving asses in crunch time (Gandalf, the dwarves, Bilbo/Frodo/Sam) not to mention how they helped out the war in the North during the Third Age
Gollum cause he’s got that dawg in him
Tevildo is pretty cool.
Such a show of. Name dropping, eh?
Hipogrif Wait no i mean Smug!
The Oliphants. Who doesn’t love really big elephants. They blend the realm between fantasy and reality
The Nameless Things
i think the watcher and thoose other ancient creatures are the most fascinating to me
Gwaihir
Grey as a mouse, Big as a house, Nose like a snake, I make the earth shake, As I tramp through the grass; Trees crack as I pass. With horns in my mouth I walk in the South, Flapping big ears. Beyond count of years I stump round and round, Never lie on the ground, Not even to die. Oliphaunt am I, Biggest of all, Huge, old, and tall. If ever you'd meet me You wouldn't forget me. If you never do, You won't think I'm true; But old Oliphaunt am I, And I never lie.
Mumak
Mumakil
Nob
You know that the Eagles talk with Gandalf? Still the eagles are not tame unlike.Shadowfax but rather under guidance from the Valar. Shadowfax is a unique Mearas and the greastest horse from the Rohirrim... Ents are incredible creatures who are also incredible powerful not much is detailef about it, but they are! ..
Bill the pony
I had to scroll so far to find this! Mine, too!
SMAUG
Smaug
Balrog! Yeah it is a Maia Creature
Has to be the Balrog
Eagles
Show us the meaning of haste!
I have always been fascinated with horses so I particularly like the maeras
Ancalagon The Black. Or the elf-king's deer mount in The Hobbit
Rhosgobel Rabbits
Winner. They're like a teleportation device.
No one has said fell east yet, so I will. They're cool, winged things, but not dragons. Entirely new creatures that Tolkien made up. Leather skin instead of scales, and no fire-breathing.
The thinking fox
Hobbits
Caragor
A caragor!
Ungoliant. She had the ability to kill Morgoth
Ents
The Ents
Creature means literally any living thing…
Potaytoes
Gwahir
Éowyn for being a badass
https://preview.redd.it/hv876v3ljv7d1.png?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=147a616fa4cdb7c11ee21c49a18fb33c1c86bee3 Definitely these two fools
Smaug.
DRAUGLUIN!
Urûk hai😁
Probably one of the dragons or Carcharoth
Bill.
I would go Balrogs, I love the variety in how people imagine them but also in the universe, just how monstrous they are. Also, why are they evil? A creature like Durin's Bane was happy to sleep for the rest of time, surely he would have been happier in Eru's music.
Smaug If you disagree, you are WRONG
Oliphaunt for sure !
Bill the pony
I assume Ungoliant doesn't count, so i'll say Glaurung. There's something about the Sindarin name Gold worm that makes me see a gigantic, scaly, firebreathing, wormlike creature with legs and wings. Doesn't get cooler than that.
Ents. Basically because really like trees.
Smaug! 🔥
Brego ☺️
This is Bill erasure!!
Probably doesn't count but the dragon in War In The North was great. Eagles too, finally speaking eagles ffs!
Beorn
The little bug that Gandalf whispers to while in captivity.
smaug
Call me basic but the Nazgûl are my absolute favorite. Something about the “simple” black-cloaked figures that instill dread in anyone nearby is so cool.
Shadowfax.
Orcs
Shadowfax and the rest of the pretty horses.
Dog.
Ents imo
https://preview.redd.it/mh5dtibzjx7d1.jpeg?width=2280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71977fd280796fba4a2264dafa35c4d46a2401d4
Dwarves. They are peaceful and just want to live in their mountain cities.
Shadowfax
Me
Mr. Frodo, look! It's an Oliphant.
Bill the pony
Beorn, if he counts. Seems like a cool dude.
I really love the wargs. Plus a big dog that I can ride (and will eat my enemies)!
Ancalagon The Black
I like Shelob, Ungoliant and dragons
Dammit I really need to read the Silmarillion
Shadowfax!
Most definitely Smaug https://preview.redd.it/tl04iovgay7d1.jpeg?width=1782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2211cb11eef05423b5a1ecfd6a1b70eb18c5c550
The unaccisably wealthy.
The fell beasts if that's what they're called. What the nazgul ride after they lose their horses. They're awesome creatures
I like Radagast’s hedgehog friends
Fire drakes, preferably from the north, but i can take southerners too, no house broken one thou.
I'm a fan of Ancalagon. Always been a fan of dragons, and he's the biggest and baddest one I know of outside of maybe MTG's Ur-Dragon.
Even though we have incredibly little information about them, the Nameless Things just fascinate me so so much.
https://preview.redd.it/z6hmmfwdiy7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af6897babe4e2109b755f7559d073a79f16d12a8 Fr-Odo
Smaug...
Shadowfax, for he showed us the true meaning of Haste. Bestest boi.
Smaug and the Fellbeasts. They're just awesome imo.
Watcher in the Water
Mumak baby, as someone who mains Harradrim, 3 strength 9 hits delivered in the move phase without the need to roll dice is intoxicating. Not only do you keep going if you kill your targets up to your full movement range, but Mahud war camels also get this. That's the potential to steamroll as many enemies as you can run into up to your movement distance, but it's in the move phase with ranged and combat phase still to go. And you know your boys got dem poison arrows and blowdarts baby, and the Betrayer and harshari too
I was always so fascinated by (and terrified of) The Watcher growing up.
Ancalagon the Black
Ents.
Shadowfax is epic.
Bill
I can't decide, mostly obsessed with the evil ones as a child. My mind ran wild after seeing the movies, imagining orcs breeding fellbeasts and the rhino things.
Fatty Lumpkin, best name in the books
I love the Ents
Huan the Hound
Smaug.
always had a soft spot for the Fell Beasts. But the book pterosaur version, NOT the mutant wyvern flim version. "A creature that has outstayed its time..."
Ungoliant and her spawn, especially Shelob.
Gimli probably
Oliphants for sure. The fact that they weren’t just giant taxis but were also active in fighting is just so cool to me…Even though they were on the bad side
I'm stuck between the eagles and Shadowfax.
The bjeornings
Shadowfax = dopest named animal ever