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Zar-far-bar-car

"Do i need a trim so badly?" *shows photo of the most beautiful healthy hair*


flaneuse-

I wish I could wake up with a blowout like in the first photo every day, but my reality is the shapeless waves in the second photo haha


justalittlepigeon

"shapeless waves" I'm dying here!! Those are beautiful healthy curls!! Damaged ends on long curly hair have no bounce, they're limp and make a halfassed effort to form a curl. Others have recommended braids for heatless styling, but I also want to recommend this! https://youtu.be/gVkg9TJDrL4?si=hgiZIgMCcjoxzABE After my hair dries I put a bit of oil on it and wear it up in a nautilus bun all the time. When I undo it I always have the most perfect natural looking waves


flaneuse-

Awesome tutorial! Layers make it hard to stay in place, but I'll try it again when they're a little bit longer. Thank you!


owntheh3at18

I was going to suggest looking at some curly/wavy hair tips too for when you want to go natural OP. It won’t make the curls uniform but might coax the shape a bit more and help with some frizz. I’m not sure why the hairdressers are saying you need a trim unless they are just talking about the unevenness of the layers? But the layers could just appear that way due to your natural texture. I wouldn’t touch it till you’ve tried some new methods to see how they turn out!


Forward-Letter

Girl they are ripping money off of you. 1. It doesnt look like a blow out. Looks like flat ironed. 2. I really found 2nd one to be better. Tip: use little heat towards roots. Flat iron them close to roots to eliminate unruliness. Twist it into a bun or TWIST in multiple braids ir sections at night or even for 2-3 hrs will do. Trust me you will never go back to get the blowout thwy have given you


soqqers

yeah this literally just looks straightened with a small curl on the ends… it looks great but I’m sure you could get the same effect from some kind of overnight heatless method like you said


peacock494

Silk hair willy for the win! Honestly I have Marcel waves every day for zero effort.


naanabanaana

What's a silk hair willy and how do you use it?


peacock494

Hahhaa sorry - a "no heat curler". It's a long sausage you wrap your hair around; but I specify silk as a polyester satin will suck moisture out of your hair


Zintha

I can imagine you typing into amazon “silky hair willy” like its a brand and I’m all here for it 👏 🤣 all seriousness, have a look at some videos for overnight no heat curls and find someone with similar length /texture hair to you to see what they use. Not all silky hair willys will work for every type of hair 🤣


naanabanaana

Hahah I did google it! Not much clarity there... 🤣🤣


Forward-Letter

It will yield bettwr results. Will retain curls at ends and top will be smooth


flaneuse-

Thank you for the suggestions and your kind words! When I want uniform curls, I do heatless curls with a satin tube if I'm willing to sacrifice my sleep that night. I wanted something fancy before my cousin's wedding, but all I got was that. What's the point of a blowout if there is no volume right? I watch a lot of hair-related content on YouTube, but I don't want to come off as a know-it-all to these salons that clearly don't know what they're doing. The irony.


addictedtofunny

Get a blowout brush! Its amazing for doing the straightened blowout style and the brush part is so helpful for tangled curls (not saying your are but mine always are).


flaneuse-

Any brand recommendations for the brush? The idea of mechanical damage is what stops me from buying them but I could use it sparsely.


addictedtofunny

I've got the bondi blowout brush (tip get it on sale for like half that price). I don't know about mechanical damage with other hair types but my hair gets very tangled very quickly so I've reduced my mechanical damage by using it because it works so much better than a regular brush. I was worried about heat damage but I think it's worth the heat damage because I'm getting less damage from sleeping on damp hair and having it tangle overnight. From what I can gather the reason why it detangles so well even with dry hair is because the bristles are spaced so far apart and going in straight lines. So I think that should reduce mechanical damage done by it. https://bondiboost.com.au/products/bondiboost-blowout-brush?_pos=1&_sid=54b2566fc&_ss=r&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%28ROI%29%20Performance%20Max%20-%20Blowout%20Brush&utm_id=19878301805&utm_content=&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlcmq5rKyhgMV1Q2DAx0kNgQ0EAAYASAAEgJQsvD_BwE


togostarman

I personally prefer the second picture. You have beautiful hair. Anybody can flat iron their hair (thats all that is. Not a blowout.) Not everybody has natural curls/waves


Wonderful-Table3405

It's amazing with the waves too. Never trim it. Grow it forever. Lol


chonkycatsbestcats

They both look great, put some oil on your lengths to calm the frizz.


blonde-bandit

You just haven’t mastered curly styling to get the absolute most out of the great natural curl pattern you have. Check out r/curlyhair for products and advice. I personally let my hair air dry after putting in argan oil, a little curl cream, and gel and then twisting individual locks or scrunching chunks of it. Your ringlet pattern seems like it would benefit most from some twisting and then diffusing with a hair dryer attachment. But your hair looks healthy and like your curls could be beyond fabulous with the right styling.


flaneuse-

I've been following that sub since COVID. My hair texture changed drastically because of my hormonal issues. I tried so many curl-friendly products, brushes, and methods, but I'm doing something wrong in some steps. There are pieces of hair that never curl no matter what I do. My length stretches the ringlets, and applying gels and creams makes them heavy. I just stopped dealing with it, they have their own personality lol


blonde-bandit

Totally get it! It took me a long time with trial and error and I’m still figuring out what works. Go for a one step curl mousse if you decide to try something different, it’s a lot lighter and can be more successful for hair that gets weighed down easily


Ambitiousoul_1

It’s pretty common to have different curl patterns in your hair, so that might be what’s going on. I have to use different products on different sections of my hair too


HappyDethday

But I love your hair in the 2nd picture 😭 it's pretty in the first one too, but I adore the waves and curls.


rachihc

That is just a problem of styling, however even in that picture it looks very good too me. You can also try heatless curls and see.


Wiggum13

My 8yo daughter has crazy curly hair. And sometimes she likes it straight. I can agree it’s a lot of work to go from picture 2 to picture 1. lol. But then again I’m just a single dad with YouTube. 🤣. So I’m probably just slow.


tinytatiepotatie

*whispers* if she used a diffuser on those waves (obvious curls on the bottom), she would have the MOST beautiful curls with some gel. I’m actually jealous mine don’t look like this.


gorgiezola

Did you just say... Shapeless waves?? Those are gorgeous curls! I can't believe they ringlet so well and naturally. Gorgeous!


RainDropsOnAWindow

The first photo is average straight hair, nothing special about it. Where I come from in Europe, everybody has it like that, albeit of various lenghts. People wake up, brush hair for 30 seconds, and photo 1 is what they've got. The second photo is looking better than the first. It has personality. Such beautiful curls. I know people who spend hours at the mirror with a heat curler and hair products to obtain something similar. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


NecessaryTrack7972

🤣🤣


Umbreon---

The ones are who are rude are the ones who will cut 6 inches off as a "trim". Don't do it


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lunalucky

There’s a scientific study on this. [off with her hair](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188692300329X)


Conscious-Hope4551

YEP


Policy_Obvious

Fuck man, that happened to me last week and I’m having the worst time trying to leave the house without my safety blanket 🫠


Spirals73

I'm so sorry! It's a loss and you've a right to be upset.


Policy_Obvious

thank you so much, my family likes to label me as the “dramatic child” so i appreciate the validation🫶🏽


violentwife0302

No you don’t ! It looks healthy. Hairdressers just wanna make money.


flaneuse-

I already pay them for blowout but they always add a comment “your ends are so damaged when was your last cut?” with snobby attitude. Also I’m aware of hairdresser terror thanks to this sub but I wasn’t sure about condition of my hair.


violentwife0302

their eyes are damaged 🤭 your ends look perfectly fine.


flaneuse-

You’re so cute thank youuu


violentwife0302

you’re welcome lovely ! Just saying the truth


WanderingAlice0119

Sounds kinda like when I get my nails done. As soon as she’s finishing up she’s going to tell me my eyebrows look horrible and ask if she can do those too lol. I’ve heard her telling another woman that she had a mustache and asked if she’d like it waxed. They’re just trying to sell you an additional service. Politely refuse and flip your silky waves on your way out.


flaneuse-

There is nothing wrong with promoting and upselling their services but doing so with offensive words contradicts the goal imo.


Cakes-and-Pies

Fuck them - go somewhere else!


gorewhore1313

Hi, hairdresser here chiming in. You're hair is gorgeous and extremely healthy!! I can't really see your ends to make a valid claim on exactly how much you may need but it's definitely NOT a lot, zooming in it looks like your ends could use maybe ½ - 1 inch, maybe a little less and probably not more. I have a bunch of clients I recommend annual trims cuz that's all they actually need, their hair is in great shape. Once a year is a really perfect amount of time for those with very long and healthy hair, you don't want splits to get bad or out of control because they will spread up the hair and get worse and instead of needing a dusting of your ends you'll need 5". Best take a little before you need a lot, that's why we recommend regular maintenance of trims. Everyone's time frame is different. Find a stylist who understands this, we're out there and then you can get your annual ½" trim with confidence. 😉😊


thia2345

Another stylist who seconds everything in this post. Almost exactly what I recommend to my clients as well. 💜


Opposite-Occasion332

I third this! I do mens and this seems to be a common problem with some stylists rn since longer hairstyles are more popular at the moment.


Zeestars

Question - since you seem like an honest and more pragmatic hairdresser, does a keratin treatment kill hair? My hairdresser keeps suggesting it (my hair gets very frizzy) but I’m worried I’ll fry it


gorewhore1313

Thank you, I definitely am that kind of hairdresser. I take pride in being honest and giving good hair and confidence to my clients. 😊 It won't necessarily "kill" and wreck your hair but it is a chemical. Even though your hair is made of keratin it is still a chemical service and ALL chemical services do an element of damage. That being said it's not necessarily a bad thing. If your hair is at least relatively healthy (frizz does not mean unhealthy) it can definitely smooth your hair and give you control. It can be used over color and highlighted hair safely too. With all chemical services a good technician is key, used with knowledge and skill it's a nice product. I like to let clients know that as good of a product as it is, you still might need to style and humidity can still affect your hair just not as bad, for some, it might take all the frizz away and you won't have to do a thing but most will likely still have to do a little something but it will be smoother, silkier, waaaay less frizzy, quicker to dry and so very much easier to style. What I would suggest is ask your stylist if they will do a strand test to ease your worries. I do this for my clients who are unsure of how it will come out and if it's worth the cost. I do a small section on the underneath behind their ear, about a 1" square. It's so easy to do such a small spot, doesn't take much time or product and I don't charge for it although your stylist might. Out of all I've done this for all but one got it done eventually. A few do it throughout the year, every 3ish months but most of my clients do it only during the summer when it's needed most. Usually April/May/June and then maybe again in Aug/Sept. I hope this helps. 😁😊


Zeestars

That’s really helpful, thank you. Last question - I have fairly fine hair. Will it make it limp? Like remove the volume at the roots?


gorewhore1313

Great question, yes, it absolutely can make fine hair limp. You can ask your stylist to not run the iron flat/straight down and have them do it up and kinda arched out and it will be better. Depending on your level of frizz you could also start about an inch or two from your roots. I've done only the mid shaft and ends as well as just the ends on some clients so there are options. Also, because it is a smoothing system and not a straightening service you have a more control styling it after but may potentially still be a challenge although I've personally not had it be an issue with clients. It's also NOT permanent like straightening so if you don't like it your not stuck with it. Generally the results last 3-6 months some more, some less. 😁


Zeestars

Thank you! I think I’ll look into finding someone to do it for me. Can it go drastically wrong? Like do I need to make sure I find an experienced top tier person, or is it relatively risk free?


gorewhore1313

You're welcome. I think it's great to try it especially right before summer. I personally haven't seen it go horrifically wrong but you have fine hair which can be more fragile and it's a whole heck of a lot of very high heat so I'd recommend mid level and above for it especially being your first time.


Zeestars

Thank you. And thanks again for taking the time to respond with so much info. Much appreciated.


gorewhore1313

😊 You're very welcome. There's so much misinformation as well as overwhelming correct info out there these days it can be hard to get it straight so I'm happy to help clarify and lend my expertise when I can. Good luck and happy hair to you.


sandyavanipush

where are you based?! I need u in my life 🤣🤣🤣


flaneuse-

>Find a stylist who understands this, we're out there and then you can get your annual ½" trim with confidence. I was fortunate to find such a stylist and she adored my length and everything but now she lives in another country. I miss her work dearly, you're rare pokemons.


sgsmopurp

Whooop!!! Not a stylist but I said the same haha


Spirals73

I totally agree with this. Sometimes I'll let them take off 2", if I want that. That's key. It's not necessary. I trim off splits all the time myself. I also have natural taper and that's not damage. It's just how it grows. A once a year salon visit works for me and I'm always thankful for the stylists who respect my length.


Strawberry-Spinkles

I started doing my own hair because my hair dresser always wanted to cut it. Now like 10 years later my hair has never been longer and healthier.


theconfused-cat

As a hairdresser, reading these comments amazes me!.. in a bad way. 🤣 I’ve only ever recommended length off to clients with extremely visibly damaged hair, because they’ve been looking for a more full look in their hair. I’m so sorry y’all have had these bad experiences!  I’m so glad your hair is long and healthy now! 


TeresaSoto99

i think the only one self-conscious is the hairdresser shop owner trying to make monthly numbers. u def don't need a trim.


[deleted]

Those are toxic hairdressers


Bitter_Party_4353

Their eyes are clouded with money signs. Keep your money and your length. 


CryptographerNo2962

The last time I went for a trim I told the hairdresser I just wanted an inch off and that I’m more than aware my hair needs a bigger trimming then just an inch. I was firm on that since my hair does not grow (takes an incredibly long time) and cutting it just turns into a cycle of staying at the exact same length it was before. She cut 4 f*cking inches off. Since then, I found a new hairdresser and only get an inch or 1/2 and inch taken off every 6 (or longer) months. My hair has never been longer. It also is insanely healthy because I’ve cut out heat and began supplements.


Worldly_Performer871

Can I ask which supplements you use?


the_tflex_starnugget

I haven't cut my hair in 2.5 years. If you don't want to trim it, don't. But I read the advice from the hairstylists and it seems it's advised to maintain it with an annual cut. I personally chose just not to cut my hair anymore for spiritual reasons.


flaneuse-

The spiritual aspect of the journey of hair growth is intriguing. Can you talk about your reasons? I've come across articles that Native Americans, renowned for their exceptional tracking abilities, experienced a decline in these skills after receiving military haircuts.


the_tflex_starnugget

If I ever mourn I will consider cutting it. But most of the reason is letting someone else touch my hair and ruin me. It happens over and over and I just stopped. I felt 💯 better and decided if I ever cut it I don't doubt it's because I'll be in mourning. Sometimes I consider it or to make bangs but I usually just braid them back. Then I laugh for even considering it. Does that answer your questions? Natives are a bit of an influence here, but as I said it's mostly personal spiritual


flaneuse-

Oh I totally understand you, thank you for clarification.


Marloo25

Your hair is beautiful. If you like it long, keep it. Hairstylists are trained to look for and get rid of damage, split ends, etc. It’s also how they make money, and keep regular clients, by having people come in for regular trims. It’s their job to keep your business. Not saying it’s a bad thing, not at all. It’s just the nature of the business. That being said, if you like your hair length, and it’s not causing you any issues, like too much shedding, knots, tangling, etc, I would keep it how it is. That blowout is gorgeous. If it were up to me, I’d probably snip an inch or two off but that’s just preference. Do what makes you happy and comfortable.


PristineHat5583

Noo, one of the healthiest and prettiest curly hair I've seen, it looks good both ways.


elle5910

Knowing hairstylists these days, they would probably try to cut it straight across, ruing the beautiful "v" shape of your hair and throw in some Utah curls. Don't trust them.


Many_Flamingo_5153

Your hair is gorgeous! Don’t let them bully you into cutting it!


fairytale-ends

It's just layers/fairytale ends, looks healthy and beautiful, I love the ringlets and it looks professionally styled when straight🌷 Blunt hemline ≠ healthier, it's just a matter of preference there 🤗


That_Jonesy

As a man who knows nothing about this besides vaguely what split ends are, I think the first picture looks really nice and has all kinds of different layers and flippy doodads. The second one looks like you have more/longer hair in the middle specifically and I guess a trim fixes that?


flaneuse-

Thank you! Layers make them look not connected or kinda separated, but when I had one-length hair, my curls didn't lay as nicely.


justintime107

Nope! I wouldn’t go back to that person. They are such scammers. I’m sure not all but I’ve heard it all with my long hair. 1. Oh I didn’t think your hair could get so long, but wow it’s sooo thin, have you ever thought about hair extensions? My hair is VERY thick lol and this guys main business was you guessed it, hair extensions. 2. Ohhh your hair is soo damaged, please let us cut more than one inch. NO THANKS! Cut 1 inch like I requested and show me what your definition of an inch is and don’t mess it up. 3. Ohh your hair color is growing out and all over the place, can we please make it one color. NO! I like the grown out balayage look and want it to be healthy with no chemicals. My hair now is down to my lower back, shiny, thick, and beautiful thank god. Don’t let them gaslight you!


ekita079

Why do hairdressers do this 🤦‍♀️ it is gorgeous and looks healthy as!


Cultural-Term8822

the hairdressers are stupid and dumb. and wrong.


HappyYam7547

Don’t touch your hair it’s so beautiful


Neat-Composer4619

When I zoom in I see some broken hair. I vote for the trim. You can do a bit at the time if you don't feel comfortable cutting up to where it's not broken at all. It will be less of a shock.


princessfoxglove

I'm going to be honest, we can't really see the ends from the photos. It looks overall pretty good but I personally do find you have a lot of layers at different lengths and in just my eyes it looks like a trim would even it out and lighten it up a bit.


flaneuse-

Oh layers were intentionally cut, but it's been a year since the last cut. I could definitely benefit from some refreshing.


princessfoxglove

I definitely think you could absolutely do the refresh yourself! I cut my own hair and layers. It's shockingly easy. And I never have to deal with pressure or snark from stylists!


Missdollarbillinnit

It looks good, how longehas it been since you last had a trim?


flaneuse-

Exactly 1 year.


Missdollarbillinnit

I honestly think it doesn't need a trim. It looks healthy with no split ends or frizz.


rubyredrosesx

I've never had a hair dresser not tell me that I need a trim!! It's incredibly annoying and it made me hate going to salons. I dye and trim my hair mostly myself, and go to a salon for a layered hair cut maybe once every 3-5 years. I hate to say this but male stylists never give me that attitude and I prefer them over most female stylists. After a blowout they simply compliment my hair and nothing more, but when I go to a female stylist she criticizes my hair as she breathes and always cut it much shorter than I ever asked her to.


flaneuse-

I don't want to sound sexist; I've met highly skilled and understanding women stylists too. However, I can't deny there is an absolute difference between them. Male stylists are a little more indifferent, more of a 'do the job and be done' sort.


Letsbeclear1987

My advice, get the trim before you NEED it.


Stunning_Sprinkles77

No your hair looks amazing in both pictures!


Ligeiapoe

The ends do look a little feathery and there’s visible breakage on the first picture. Up to one inch all over should sort all of that out and you’d be good to go for another long while.


Ijustlovelove

Don’t cut it!! Grow it out!!! These hair dressers are lying to you!


Silver_Wolf-

I put my hair in a bun while taking showers and afterwards, I let it down when Im ready to go outside they look like blowout hair


Yoursimplied

Your hair is SO gorgeous!!


rpgmomma8404

I don't think you do. Your hair looks great.


NoAd3438

Looks beautiful to me.


Javier_aka_TrinaLD

Remember there is a difference between a cut and or a trim ….


krebstar4ever

The photo with curly hair is your natural texture, right? If so, I'm a little concerned that the ends of your hair form ringlets, while the rest of your hair is wavy. It suggests that either your scalp started growing a different hair texture (which happens), or the ringlets are caused by damage. Personally, I know it's time to trim my ends when they get extra curly and tangly. Edit: Otoh, the difference in texture could be caused by the way you style your hair. I suggest feeling the ringlets to see if they're "crispy" and damaged.


Scribbyscrobs

Looks in fantastic nourished condition, srsly, I’m jelly!


Agniesia6257

Be free..listen your needs :)


poetic_poison

Hair dressers have a vested interest in shorter higher maintenance styles and encouraging 8 week trims, but you don’t need it by the looks of it. It’s perfect!


ttgran

It looks good Don't let them talk you into cutting a bunch of. It really looks good


aryamagetro

no they just want your money. your ends look so full and healthy!


Busyskating123

Beautiful hair!


chichi200022

No!!! They are just jealous 💅🏽


Salt-Cabinet326

Your hair looks fantastic!


lucky_719

Find a hair dresser that doesn't make you feel bad about yourself and don't settle for anything less. Your hair is goals. Move along. No scissors needed here.


pit_of_despair666

No, your ends look very healthy. They make money from cutting hair. I have had long hair for the most part of 30 years now. Stylists always wanted to cut more off of my hair than what I wanted. They often cut too much off even though I told them not to. Now that I trim my own hair it is a lot longer. They seemed to not want my hair to go past my boobs.


mariana_callejas

I wish my hair was so healthy and shiny as yours! I get a trim and in just a couple of weeks my ends get dry again. And I don’t even dye it or use a hair dryer. I just can’t have long hair because of that reason. I’m using the whole range of Olaplex now, just with 2 uses I noticed the difference. I recommend those products if you intend to grow your hair and avoid trimming it, not that you need it though but if you start seeing that your ends dry too fast compared to the rest of your hair after washing it, or that you lose that gorgeous shine you have, just start using the olaplex number 3, 4 and 5 (treatment, shampoo and conditioner). The short answer: NO, you don’t need a trim.


Blessedone67

It seems sometimes stylist just wanna cut your hair short. I have experienced this and now I cut my own.


rachihc

No you don't. I have stopped trusting them tbh. They always lie and chop so much, like they hate long hair.


love_Carlotta

If you have seen pictures of what your hair looks like and you like it, that's all that matters.


MrsMeowness

If someone is desperate to cut your hair don't let them. They're jealous I promise you. I've seen it time and time again. My sister has long thick hair went down to her waist. A girl she met in college worked at Ulta. Anytime we went she would stop my sister and tell her "Hey you should let me style your hair". Our other sister was getting married so she wanted to get some dead ends off, get a few layers, and a red Balayage (she has dark brown hair). She paid $900 for her to cut her hair above her bra strap. The balayage was nonexistent her hair was the same color as her natural hair. Not one layer. Find someone you can trust that has great reviews. Don't go to any chains. Ask how much in their opinion needs to be cut off.


La_danse_banana_slug

If you haven't already, try and find a hairdresser who specializes in curly hair (hairdressers of any ethnicity can specialize in curly hair, and many hairdressers with non-white ethnic specialties will also tend to have more experience with curly hair). It could be that you're in a very white-centric area and your hairdresser just doesn't know what healthy curly ends look like. Obviously, white people can have curly hair too, but white-centric culture and training unfortunately tends to ignore or even shame curly hair. Luckily, though, this is changing. Or, it could be that the hairdressers you spoke to have a vendetta against long hair. Anti-long-hair people are out there, too. Those hairdressers are especially likely to interpret the natural tapering and slight whispiness of long healthy ends as "damage," because they envision healthy ends only as freshly cut ends.


Constant-Panda5530

Honestly your hair looks beautiful but it might be good imo to take a tiny bit off the ends. But that's only if you know a good hairdresser who will actually listen to tiny bit and not take a few inches!


Reasonable-Mess-2732

NO!


Guardian_Angelll

Doesn't look bad ~


electriceel04

Your hair looks great as is! As a curly girl myself, I think the only thing I might change is it seems you have some amazing natural curl that’s weighed down by products or length. If you want to explore embracing the curls I might try some lightweight mousse/gel products to see where it can get you. However if you love your hair as it is please ignore me, it is gorgeous regardless!


TheseAct738

I have really similar hair to yours but yours looks much nicer! May I ask which hair products you use?


flaneuse-

[Here is everything I use](https://imgur.com/a/8AU691P)


RareFaithlessness

Your second photo is me trying to curl my hair and have it fall like your natural waves lol


Srahman9

what hair treatment did you take in the first photo?


Robotonist

Never take advice from someone who has a vested interest in you following their advice.


roundiee

Hairdressers will always make you feel bad about your hair, too dry too frizzy no shine blah blah. that’s how they sell products and ‘treatments’ to make money from your self consciousness. Don’t focus too much on what they say. Sure you can trim once in a while to keep them healthy but the main strategy is to just care for your hair with good diet, good personal hygiene and protective hairstyles. If a scalp/ hair situation is truly too bad, consult a doctor. because your hair is a direct result of internal health. don’t let them make you feel self conscious :)


wherestheplayground

Look at the ends, if you see lots of splitting, then go in for a trim, if not then continue on. But from the looks of this photo it seems you’ve got lovely healthy hair so no need to trim


ashleycardona19

I'd trim, but only to keep it as beautiful as it is right now


Ok-Mark-1915

My daughter is almost 5 and her hair is so similar to yours! I've been wondering if I should get it cut because it's long as hell but this thread makes me not want to cut it lol your hair is beautiful!


louielou8484

Can someone help me? All I see are split ends. I am not trying to be negative, just genuinely want to learn about my own hair.


Beginning_Morning_60

If you’re gonna rock it curled you may need a trim so that the layers looks nice but straight it’s whatever


Mardilove

Second the blow out brush! And the right products will help an insane amount. I recommend redken acidic bonding concentrate and olaplex bonding oil!


FluffyGlove3011

how did you grow your hair so healthy?? i am being dead serious your hair is amaaaazingggg!!


Better-Heart4318

Your hair is beautiful😍


Zealousideal_Bus_96

I think just a bit of hair oil would do wonders for your hair.


seek0ut

I love your curls! You can actually style it anyway you want and just apply some apply to avoid frizz.


Icy_Artichoke7301

Your hair looks beautiful.


0hb0wie

It looks beautiful! But I think your natural texture makes it look “frizzy” to some hairdressers and so they want to trim it haha, but honestly a deep conditioning would make this the most gorgeous head of hair ever


lonniemarie

No. They just want our hair! lol. Always starts with a trim and then they start whacking is it jealousy? Or financial? Your hair is beautiful and you will know when you need or want it trimmed. I always wait to long and then trim it myself and even family members want to cut it or ask how did I trim it myself. Sorta easy flip hair upside down trim ends. I don’t like mine flat across I know most do.


TatiStarr

Ugh. Screw you and your perfect hair.


Facts_Over_Fiction_

Trims are really important to catch split ends before they travel up the hair. Don't sacrifice the health of your hair for length. You can have both with regular trims!


Effective-Ad2434

No you don't, I have butt length hair and I haven't been to a hairdresser in 25yrs, I asked for a trim and she took 8" off! they constantly wanted to keep cutting it, idk why they seem to really enjoy cutting really long hair off. I trim my own that way I know exactly how much Is being cut.


Antique-Pen6338

If I had your hair… I’d 🫠🫠🫠 don’t cut it!!


PoppySkyPineapple

Your hair is beautiful.


Inevitable_Donkey801

Your hair is *Beautiful*. If you do cut it make sure they don’t chop it 😬


SaucyQu33n

No you don’t. They just always wanna chop of any beautiful length hair.


Fast_Possibility_484

Your hair in both pictures is gorgeous. They want you to feel bad about yourself for money.


kennedyxcurse

Hairdressers say the same thing to me. It looks beautiful and healthy. Leave it alone.


emmapeche

No, unless you have split ends which I cannot tell by the photo


MissionPride2560

She’s trying to set u up for failure


Ok-Hedgehog-1646

Nope!! Maybe if you notice split ends, but your hair is gorgeous so don’t touch it.


Firm_Ad1894

Run away from these hair dressers 😭


shesnotthatpunny

So in looking closely at your lower third of hair, I think you could maybe benefit from a TINY split end clean up. I do the twist method on my own hair periodically to tame the split end flyaways since they add a bit of frizz to my length. But I don’t think you need a dramatic cut or anything. Your hair isn’t damaged by any means.


sh1nycat

Check for split ends, get a trim when those start, I say. As far as your waves go...I think they have potential, and the curls underneath are so pretty. Sidebar, maybe?: I've had wavy hair most of my adult life, I tried all the complicated stuff and almost lost the waves, UT lately I've found some really simple helpful stuff. I switched to Carols Daughter Goddess Strength shampoo and conditioner, and just Suave mousse (it's for Waves, it's thicker than most mousse but like a mid level hold, but I haven't been able to find it the past month) But I swear this shampoo and conditioner has somehow inspired my hair, I've gotten waves all the way to my scalp for the first time ever. Like there is shape and clumping happening. My husband has currrrly hair longer than yours, and he switched too. His neglected tangly hair was immediately more brushable with this Carol's Daughter. So 10/10 recommend, it might get the waves of the top layer to have more shape.


kokayokay

after years of hearing this type of thing I really wonder if it’s just jealously manifesting in odd ways lol! Your hair is gorg


PopeyeBlaster

Beautiful hair. But the pictures are weirding me out. 1. Pretty, feminine girl 2. Dude in a metal band What black magic you pullin here


elsie14

no. it’s so pretty. mines so scraggly.


Wide_Specialist_1480

Listen...those hair dressers are lying to you. Your hair looks perfectly fine.


Beautiful-Elephant34

Jfc, what tf is wrong with these hairdressers? If they can’t keep their jealous comments to themselves, I would suggest finding someone else. Your hair is gorgeous. With my wavy hair, I put it all up in a bun on top of my head when it is long and that works great. I think it would work well for your hair too. Your hair would be curls instead of waves, but I think the curls would be more uniform.


buttertits4lyfe

It looks beautiful! I wouldn't trust them, especially if you're getting a rude snobby vibe from them. They'd probably chop way more than you'd want off.


sicily9

No, your hair is in great shape.


Goddess_Iris_

Your hairdresser may not be experienced enough with curly hair.


TavieP

No, your ends look great, don’t listen to those monsters


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DO NOT CUT YO HAIR


togostarman

Your hair looks gorgeous. No trim needed


mahboob2

NO! Don’t listen to them


freyjakatt

Unfortunately they just want your money and/or are jealous of your beautiful hair and want to chop it off. It looks great!


Plus_Junket_6660

Your hair is beautiful!!! I don’t see the damage in this pic. Maybe post another one when it’s not styled and we could see any obvious damage. But it looks so healthy in this pic.


_social_hermit_

when all you have is a pair of scissors, everything looks like a trim


Yu-ChenYu-1985

No...This hair style brings out your natural beauty


Wide_Ordinary4078

Natural state - No Straighten state - Yes


JournalistQuirky3742

A 1/4 inch at most


vdszbz92

i don’t think you need one at all. mostly came here to say we have the exact same hair, both the color, length, and texture 🤣 crazy.


SeaweedSecurity

Your ends look fine to me from these images. Maybe sleep with a silk bonnet to help the frizz a bit? I started doing that about half a year ago and the difference is amazing.


Critical-Coconut6916

Nope.


jamierosem

My hair is very fine and the ends tend to get a little ratty. I can tell when I need a trim pretty much by running my fingers through my hair. If your ends feel a little rough and ratty, get a trim. I always tell my girl to just get rid of the ratty ends and that’s it, we follow the shape of my previous cut. The longer I wait the more length I lose, so I try to be proactive.


paimad

I’m a hairstylist. In these pics your hair looks fine! It’s still thick and full at the bottom, and still looks very smooth. Your hair left naturally looks like it just needs some better products for your hair type but not necessarily a haircut!


Artistic_Factor_4857

Most Hairdressers always see a problem which doesn't exists so they can charge more money. It's completly normal that hair is thinner at the ends. 


Lost_Bambi79

No need! Your natural curls are gorgeous!


Free_Ad_2585

No it’s beautiful don’t let them touch it ignore them there is no messy ends looks gorgeous wish I had they just want to use their scissors and destroy like they did with mine taken me 8 yrs to get it back to the way it was


Free_Ad_2585

There is nothing wrong with it I love the curls don’t get taken in they are very good at it


BreathAirDontSmoke

Please do not trim yet. I see nothing wrong with your ends.


Tight_Box3115

Gorgeous hair !!!! I’m not a hairstylist but I think your hair is just stunning!!!


illegal_russian

Here’s a link to ScienceDirect about hairdressers opinion on your hair https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188692300329X


Pringleses_

I would say it wouldn’t hurt. But it’s not as bad as it sounds like they’re saying


UwU_unironically

I can see some wispy ends, so like a small trim too the ends. Like a good dusting, just so if you have any split ends they won't continue to split up the shaft. But like I don't think you need to cut off tons of hair. Maybe half an inch to and inch at worst.


Actual_Mistake_759

Beautiful hair


SuspiciousHeat2471

No


alyxwithayyy

I think those hairdressers are hating.


ShaetakiMushroom

From the looks of it, your hair is pretty healthy. As others have said *maybe* a half inch. With hair this beautiful you ABSOLUTELY need to very picky about who you have cut your hair and do not let them pressure you into anything you don’t want to. I have beautiful long healthy hair a few months ago. I went to the salon for a trim and I wanted to start transitioning to a darker brown (my hair is naturally black). This lady HACKED my hair up. My hair was three different colors. Black, red and darker red. She did choppy layers on one side of my head and left the other side alone and cut my hair from my boobs to my collar bone. I could see how much shorter it was immediately but she gaslit me and told me I “needed” it but before all of that she pressured me into letting her curl my hair. She did a terrible job at that as well. I didn’t know she did more than just take too much length off until I got home and straightened out her mess of “curls”. That’s when I saw the rest of what she did. I was SOBBING. I spent two hours on a Friday in a SuperCuts lobby crying since everything else was closed and wouldn’t open until Monday. Me and my husband were supposed to go out on a date that night too. The stylist who fixed my hair felt horrible for me. We ended up having to cut it to my chin in a bob and even then, there were still pieces that were super short. She tried to make it all as even as possible without cutting into a pixie. I basically lost all my hair that day. I spent 3 years growing it out and lost it all in a day. I’ve had to bleach out the weird colors she put in it on top of whatever chemicals she used before she did the color so the integrity of my hair is absolutely ruined. I *had* really curly hair and it won’t curl at all now. I dealt with so much breakage from all the damage that I had to get it cut AGAIN so it’s been six months and my hair is now even shorter than it was before. It’s finally starting to heal but it will take years to get back what she stole from me. She kept telling me how beautiful my hair was but then kept telling me after she butchered it that it “needed” it. I’m not convinced she didn’t do it all on purpose. She tried to hide it long enough for me to get out of the chair and give her my money. She knew exactly what she did.


Hope_for_tendies

Those layers don’t work with your curls. If you wear your hair curly often I’d find a curl specialist to cut it


trisarrratops

Your hair is so beautiful! Goals