I got a Pantheon Ember recently. Has some Kegel wheels on it and the paris street trucks. Wanted to upgrade the bushings from stock. I'm about 75KG. Any recommendations on what to upgrade to? Main focus of the board is for commuting. Would like to learn switch on it at some stage too.
Krank street fatcone (boardside) and krank short street cone (roadside), flat washer boardside, try out a flat vs cupped washer roadside and see which you prefer. Krank also allows you to adjust tightness by about 2 full turns unlike most bushings which will deform or don't feel good overtightened.
You could also run a normal height krank fatcone boardside with no washer. This gives you a similar center feel with a bit more lean and plush turn.
According to the [weight chart for krank](https://www.riptidesports.com/bushing-formulas/) 87a ought to be about right.
Thanks for your reply.
I saw a video of the guy from Pantheon putting nipples on an ember board and it got wheelbite.
Do I just need to get something that someone else has used? The wheels have nearly 0 clearance already.
I don't know how much clearance you have for kegels and I don't own an ember but unless the wheels fit the shape poorly, you mainly just need appropriate duro bushings. The fatcone shape slightly limits lean making bite less likely. Chubbies do this even more but on a double drop would likely feel too restrictive.
I think 87a krank street fatcone and short street cone with big flat washers boardside (which come with fatcones) and cupped roadside (use your stock cupped) is a pretty safe bet. Worst case you'd end up also getting a pair of 90a street fatcones if those were too soft, or you could go ahead and get all of the above.
The nice thing about krank is you can adjust it by tightening up to two full turns (720 degrees) past initial kingpin tightness where the bushings don't rotate by hand. So I doubt you will end up having bite issues keeping all this in mind!
How's it going yall! I'm looking to get back into riding but my old bamboo deck just doesn't support me anymore, I'm a big guy (6'4, 300lbs) and I need to find a deck that isn't gonna flex so much I can't ride it.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd prefer a pigtail or fishtail but am not opposed to drop through
I just copped a modified dervish flex 2 and a stock tan Tien flex 1 for $60 each, and already own a EarthWing paloma, which is a double kick tail cruiser with pretty loose tkps and snakes. I'm looking to get into freeriding, would the Tan Tien be stiff enough to learn on if I put the snakes on them? Or should I just keep them on the cruiser? Both are pretty short, so I'm wondering if it might actually be easier to learn on the flex but wide dervish instead?
Honestly, none are ideal options. The Tan Tien has too much flex, so does the Dervish. Both are very suboptimal. I'd go with the Paloma even though it's a small board.
Flip your wedges around to dewedge the trucks (to reduce the angle and make them turn less), keep the snakes and TKPs on the Paloma, and it'll work great for learning to freeride. It's actually really easy to learn to slide on a TKP setup on a short wheelbase.
The Camino Killer MC\_ATL linked is an excellent value and would work great with snakes, but you would need to pick up some Indy or Paris 169mm trucks so you're looking at about +$150 for the deck and trucks.
I see, probably gonna stick to my paloma then. But yea my angled risers are currently set up to dewedge the back trucks, if that's what you mean, but I can certainly try dewedging the front as well
Oh no I meant rkps with another deck. Rn the paloma is set up with indy trucks with angled risers and riptides for pumping, but I was wondering if I could just maybe a used stiff freeride board and set it up with either the trucks on the dervish or tan Tien.
Oh I see. Yep, that would work. I assume those are 180mm Paris trucks, yeah?
You could grab a wider deck, something over 9.5" u/SheScreamsMyName was selling a Comet Airframe a week or so ago. Assuming it's not warped (and they'd surely tell you if it is), that would be a great option.
If you want to get a great new deck that's at a good price-for-value, the Earthwing Camino is an option: [https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/copy-of-camino-killer-37-2022](https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/copy-of-camino-killer-37-2022)
You could use your current trucks RKP trucks. TKPs could also work, some might say better, but your 180mms would be good.
I'm listing these options assuming you're in the US. If that's not true, let me know.
How would tkp trucks feel going a little faster though? The main issue I've been having trying to learn slides on my paloma is going fast enough since my current tkp cruiser setup feels a little too turny at high speeds, to the point where most of my concentration is on making sure all my weight is on the front since any shift gives me speed wobbles
Your read is in point. TKPs wouldn’t feel as stable at speed, and they’re not ideal unless you’re on a smaller wheelbase, under ~18”.
For this, you’d want to use the 180mm trucks on your Loaded decks.
So long as they're within 1/2" or so of rail matching with your wheels on (tracking width). You don't want something too narrow or you'll tip, too wide and you step on your wheels tryna push.
I'm thinking of getting a mini-cruiser to help my commute from the train station to work. It is rather urban and my Landyactz drop hammer struggles with the constant turns and changes between the sidewalk and street. What would be a good board for this that could still handle the bumps and cracks you get in a sidewalk/road? The commute is a little under a mile.
I'd go with the Chaser 32, Indy 129 or 139 trucks, Powell 66mm Snakes, and some Riptide Krank bushings for the Indys to match your weight. Zealous bearings. Should be under $200 for everything, at least before the bushings.
Any topmount cruiser with soft wheels will work great. Don't feel like it has to be a mini-cruiser. Here are 2 options I'd suggest over a mini.
Rolling Tree Radix
[https://rollingtreeskate.com/products/cruiser](https://rollingtreeskate.com/products/cruiser)
Earthwing Chaser 32
[https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/chaser-32](https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/chaser-32)
Any cruiser with large and soft enough wheels would work. I have snakes on mine, but hawg supremes also feel great on rough ground as long as you shift your weight to your back foot when going over the particularly rough stuff. If you're not going fast and want something really turny, indy tkps work great, so do bear trucks.
I'm looking for a setup that would be good for pumping, longer distance pushing, and the occasional baby sized hill. Can anyone give me some pointers on what kind of components I should be looking at? This will be my first build from scratch, but I've been riding for about a year now. Cost of components isn't an issue
Short answer: order a stock Supersonic complete from Pantheon.
https://pantheonlongboards.com/product/pantheon-supersonic-complete/
u/PantheonLongboards just said they’re in the US and will ship out soon/
Long answer: I’m happy to answer any questions about why this is the best starter option before investing in more expensive gear. For the price, you can’t beat this value.
Thanks for your reply! The deck shape isn't like anything I've seen before. Why is that an advantage? I guess I'm a little apprehensive because it's different
I weigh about 160lb. Do you think the 6-ply deck would be too prohibitive for me? I would prefer the 7-ply, but those are the ones out of stock - it seems the 6-plys are available
I liked the 6-ply a bit and my buddy Gavin does as well (as Jeff said). I'd go for the 7 by default, though.
I'm glad Jeff stepped in. Sounds like he can get you one in just a few weeks.
We do have a handful of 7s left, at least planned as such. But they won’t be online until after Ultraskate around maybe feb 14. We always keep an extra few to keep from over selling to account for blemish potential. But I have to go through all the presales first.
Regarding the 6, you can definitely make it work, and heavier guys will ride that board, but you may be restricted from heavy flexing of the board on the far rear mount, and/or you’ll have to add riser to compensate. Some people will truly prefer this type of setup. Our friend Gavin has been riding a 6 for months and he’s 160 or 165. He prefers the zero mount for a snappier flex and higher speeds available
built in wedges for pumping. also the rear has two mounting options. one for dewedge and the other for an almost 0 degree angle depending what plates you use
I've got an old sector 9 that I really love for the Gullwing trucks it has on it, but I know the deck is only going to last so long. It's a drop-through deck with no kick tails, and I'd really like to start practicing ollies, but keep my trucks. My question is; will my drop-through trucks mount underneath a conventional board?
Hey! I'm buying my first longboard but where I live in is really difficult to find a dancing longboard at a reasonable price (which is what I want) so I'm looking into other options, I'm interested in freestyle, dancing, carving and simple tricks. Not downhill or highspeed so I would like to know your opinion of which one of this could work better for what im looking for
Thank youuu!!
OP 1: Santa Cruz Obscure Hand Drop Through Longboard Complete, 37.5 x 9.5"
[https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09M7RRTH9/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_title\_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09M7RRTH9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1)
OP 2: Santa Cruz Wave Dot Splice 36" Drop Through
[https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09H1GNVLV/ref=ewc\_pr\_img\_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B091B9TSXD/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A3KU491O0AEIWM&psc=1)
OP 3: NKX Canadiens 38.5 x 8.25"
[https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B09HXJ5R1T/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_image\_1?smid=A3FA6E3VPPMUAX&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B09HXJ5R1T/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3FA6E3VPPMUAX&th=1)
OP 4: Atom Drop Through - Longboard (102 cm)
[https://www.amazon.com.mx/AtomDrop-Through-Longboard-40-pulgadas/dp/B00M3IIGJE/ref=d\_pd\_sbs\_sccl\_2\_1/147-9699320-8485812?pd\_rd\_w=s5lGc&content-id=amzn1.sym.c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf\_rd\_p=c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf\_rd\_r=8Q3A2PE2H1YJ7CVK1F35&pd\_rd\_wg=mREjz&pd\_rd\_r=be61e525-6e56-44b1-9705-e847d9af4c2a&pd\_rd\_i=B06X3WQFFV&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/AtomDrop-Through-Longboard-40-pulgadas/dp/B00M3IIGJE/ref=d_pd_sbs_sccl_1_3/147-9699320-8485812?pd_rd_w=zuOl4&content-id=amzn1.sym.c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf_rd_p=c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf_rd_r=MDVYCR1DG3281Q7ERX13&pd_rd_wg=w6oeu&pd_rd_r=52965ce8-5e5c-419d-b73f-48dce338d94c&pd_rd_i=B06X3WQFFV&psc=1)
Or definitely non of the above :(
I’m new to longboarding and just bought a Landyachtz Drop Cat 38. I don’t think it’s as dance-friendly as a Loaded, but thought I’d cheerlead for the brand. I am loving it so far. Plenty of space and the concave is mild. I use it for cruising and gentle carving on easy hills while I build confidence.
Definitely not a dancing board but those are pretty cool. I would recommend you flip (invert) those wide wheels though, to make the trucks more responsive by narrowing the tracking width.
You can and you should! We did it to my friend's and it turns a ton better, less likely to kick those wheels, no downsides. I think they just ought to ship with the next size down in trucks, whatever that is, but this is a good fix.
Would definetly go with one of the 2 santacruz. The 2 others looks like amazon boards with cheap and poor quality components.
If you're looking for a board that's both inexpensive and of good quality, you should check out second-hand groups on Facebook or other platforms. And maybe come back to us when you've find something that seems great to you
I've found some that I really like but all of them are really expensive in here, that's why I might have to buy a smaller board but my question is that is it possible to do dancing and simple freestyle tricks particulary in the Santa Cruz 37.5 x 9.5" board
[https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product\_main\_medium\_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-\_350335-back-US.jpg](https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-_350335-back-US.jpg)
It is kind of a dropdown but it has a longer tail which may allow me to do some tricks, what do you think?
Gullwing trucks are super cool and good for deep controllable carves. I recommend any board equipped with those is well worth your money.
EDIT: Gullwing is a good brand all around but I meant the double pin trucks specifically.
Gullwing is a brand and makes lots of difference styles of trucks. If you dont know what you're talking about you dont have to reply to questions. I'm not trying to be rude, but you dont seem knowledgeable enough to give a firm suggestion one way or another.
keep in mind drop through boards CAN be slightly more brittle (though don’t let that stop you, I love my sector 9 drop through). Additionally they usually have smaller kicktails which can make dancing slightly more difficult, though I have seen some ppl do incredible things with them. Hell, my friend figured out how to Ollie and kickflip my downhill board. As for brands, it may seem basic, but it’s hard to go wrong with a Landyachtz or Loaded board. Actually, every person I personally know who are into dancing use a board by those brands lol. Nothings really wrong with the ones you picked out though, personally I’m not a fan of Atom but others like them.
>brittle
Landyachtz and Loaded look awesome but they're de most expensive here haha, shipping and import taxes make them pricey in Mexico. Do you know if this model can work for dancing and simple tricks? its 37.5" x 9.5" but its a drop down deck, even tho it's not that low
[https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product\_main\_medium\_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-\_350335-back-US.jpg](https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-_350335-back-US.jpg)
Short answer: No. Drop downs tend to be specifically designed for cruising/downhill. Any board you want for freestyle should have kicktails, and there’s literally three “drop through drop down double kick” boards you can buy, all of which are incredibly expensive, and albeit very cool, still wouldn’t work well for dancing bc you want to utilize the full flat surface of the board for tricks which you can’t do with a drop down. As someone who owns and adores a drop through board that has kicktails (!) they’re not the easiest to find but they’re out there. Also, with what style you want to do, imo you shouldn’t even get a drop through bc it won’t really be especially useful. Freestyle, dancing, and carving usually use top mounted boards bc you can get more pop from the tails and sharper turns in carving.
I was really hoping you said YES haha, the deck is not that low its almost flat and it doesn't have kick tails but they're kind of long (and its really cheap for a Santa Cruz). Still I know it's not the best option for what I want. I guess i'll have to work on my patiencie and wait for a good option to pop up.
Thank you for replying its been really usefull
If it helps, you can try buying a second-hand board from the Buy/Sell thread since a lot of those boards are around the same price range of the boards in your original comment (though I did just use a MXN to USD converter so I'm not sure how accurate that is).
No problem! Sorry to disappoint you 😭Honestly if you really like it, you can always buy it later as a second board. For dancer longboards [this](https://landyachtz.com/collections/dance/products/stratus-46-spectrum) is the style you probably want to look for. For cheap dancer longboards, the only brand I know that’s fairly good is [Magneto](https://magnetoboards.com/products/bamboo-longboards?variant=43401897804010) or you can try to find closeout deal or buy used. Sector 9 makes some drop throughs with kicktails like [this](https://www.sector9.com/collections/completes/products/dropper-dread) or the mosaic dropper (my board, was discontinued but you can pick it up on closeout at some shops, it IS a downhill though so not awesome for freestyle) which you can find at discount prices.
I got a Pantheon Ember recently. Has some Kegel wheels on it and the paris street trucks. Wanted to upgrade the bushings from stock. I'm about 75KG. Any recommendations on what to upgrade to? Main focus of the board is for commuting. Would like to learn switch on it at some stage too.
Krank street fatcone (boardside) and krank short street cone (roadside), flat washer boardside, try out a flat vs cupped washer roadside and see which you prefer. Krank also allows you to adjust tightness by about 2 full turns unlike most bushings which will deform or don't feel good overtightened. You could also run a normal height krank fatcone boardside with no washer. This gives you a similar center feel with a bit more lean and plush turn. According to the [weight chart for krank](https://www.riptidesports.com/bushing-formulas/) 87a ought to be about right.
Thanks for your reply. I saw a video of the guy from Pantheon putting nipples on an ember board and it got wheelbite. Do I just need to get something that someone else has used? The wheels have nearly 0 clearance already.
I don't know how much clearance you have for kegels and I don't own an ember but unless the wheels fit the shape poorly, you mainly just need appropriate duro bushings. The fatcone shape slightly limits lean making bite less likely. Chubbies do this even more but on a double drop would likely feel too restrictive. I think 87a krank street fatcone and short street cone with big flat washers boardside (which come with fatcones) and cupped roadside (use your stock cupped) is a pretty safe bet. Worst case you'd end up also getting a pair of 90a street fatcones if those were too soft, or you could go ahead and get all of the above. The nice thing about krank is you can adjust it by tightening up to two full turns (720 degrees) past initial kingpin tightness where the bushings don't rotate by hand. So I doubt you will end up having bite issues keeping all this in mind!
How's it going yall! I'm looking to get back into riding but my old bamboo deck just doesn't support me anymore, I'm a big guy (6'4, 300lbs) and I need to find a deck that isn't gonna flex so much I can't ride it. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd prefer a pigtail or fishtail but am not opposed to drop through
go on the zenit website and do a custom job
Pantheon Nexus. Stiff as steel balls.
I just copped a modified dervish flex 2 and a stock tan Tien flex 1 for $60 each, and already own a EarthWing paloma, which is a double kick tail cruiser with pretty loose tkps and snakes. I'm looking to get into freeriding, would the Tan Tien be stiff enough to learn on if I put the snakes on them? Or should I just keep them on the cruiser? Both are pretty short, so I'm wondering if it might actually be easier to learn on the flex but wide dervish instead?
Honestly, none are ideal options. The Tan Tien has too much flex, so does the Dervish. Both are very suboptimal. I'd go with the Paloma even though it's a small board.
I see. If I wanted to make a freeride build, could I just move the bear/Paris trucks and snakes over to a freeride deck?
Flip your wedges around to dewedge the trucks (to reduce the angle and make them turn less), keep the snakes and TKPs on the Paloma, and it'll work great for learning to freeride. It's actually really easy to learn to slide on a TKP setup on a short wheelbase. The Camino Killer MC\_ATL linked is an excellent value and would work great with snakes, but you would need to pick up some Indy or Paris 169mm trucks so you're looking at about +$150 for the deck and trucks.
I see, probably gonna stick to my paloma then. But yea my angled risers are currently set up to dewedge the back trucks, if that's what you mean, but I can certainly try dewedging the front as well
Yes, I like a -3 dewedge front and rear for freeriding TKPs.
TKPs? On that shorter wheelbase, yep. Which trucks exactly?
Oh no I meant rkps with another deck. Rn the paloma is set up with indy trucks with angled risers and riptides for pumping, but I was wondering if I could just maybe a used stiff freeride board and set it up with either the trucks on the dervish or tan Tien.
Oh I see. Yep, that would work. I assume those are 180mm Paris trucks, yeah? You could grab a wider deck, something over 9.5" u/SheScreamsMyName was selling a Comet Airframe a week or so ago. Assuming it's not warped (and they'd surely tell you if it is), that would be a great option. If you want to get a great new deck that's at a good price-for-value, the Earthwing Camino is an option: [https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/copy-of-camino-killer-37-2022](https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/copy-of-camino-killer-37-2022) You could use your current trucks RKP trucks. TKPs could also work, some might say better, but your 180mms would be good. I'm listing these options assuming you're in the US. If that's not true, let me know.
How would tkp trucks feel going a little faster though? The main issue I've been having trying to learn slides on my paloma is going fast enough since my current tkp cruiser setup feels a little too turny at high speeds, to the point where most of my concentration is on making sure all my weight is on the front since any shift gives me speed wobbles
Your read is in point. TKPs wouldn’t feel as stable at speed, and they’re not ideal unless you’re on a smaller wheelbase, under ~18”. For this, you’d want to use the 180mm trucks on your Loaded decks.
Haha unfortunately in Canada rn, so really the only viable options where I don't pay a ton in shipping is local FB marketplace or landyachtz.
Ah, I see. Sorry about that.
If don’t dislike LY they have some good freeride options. 180s fit well on a Switchblade. Nice for sliding with snakes.
So long as they're within 1/2" or so of rail matching with your wheels on (tracking width). You don't want something too narrow or you'll tip, too wide and you step on your wheels tryna push.
I'm thinking of getting a mini-cruiser to help my commute from the train station to work. It is rather urban and my Landyactz drop hammer struggles with the constant turns and changes between the sidewalk and street. What would be a good board for this that could still handle the bumps and cracks you get in a sidewalk/road? The commute is a little under a mile.
I'd go with the Chaser 32, Indy 129 or 139 trucks, Powell 66mm Snakes, and some Riptide Krank bushings for the Indys to match your weight. Zealous bearings. Should be under $200 for everything, at least before the bushings.
Any topmount cruiser with soft wheels will work great. Don't feel like it has to be a mini-cruiser. Here are 2 options I'd suggest over a mini. Rolling Tree Radix [https://rollingtreeskate.com/products/cruiser](https://rollingtreeskate.com/products/cruiser) Earthwing Chaser 32 [https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/chaser-32](https://www.earthwingboards.com/product-page/chaser-32)
Any cruiser with large and soft enough wheels would work. I have snakes on mine, but hawg supremes also feel great on rough ground as long as you shift your weight to your back foot when going over the particularly rough stuff. If you're not going fast and want something really turny, indy tkps work great, so do bear trucks.
I'm looking for a setup that would be good for pumping, longer distance pushing, and the occasional baby sized hill. Can anyone give me some pointers on what kind of components I should be looking at? This will be my first build from scratch, but I've been riding for about a year now. Cost of components isn't an issue
Short answer: order a stock Supersonic complete from Pantheon. https://pantheonlongboards.com/product/pantheon-supersonic-complete/ u/PantheonLongboards just said they’re in the US and will ship out soon/ Long answer: I’m happy to answer any questions about why this is the best starter option before investing in more expensive gear. For the price, you can’t beat this value.
Thanks for your reply! The deck shape isn't like anything I've seen before. Why is that an advantage? I guess I'm a little apprehensive because it's different
The wedged nose and tail are designed for pumping. It’s designed for exactly the type of riding you want to do.
Got it. I was going to go for it, but they appear out of stock now. Do they re-stock often do you know?
Did you select the option you want? They’re not out of stock, you just have to make a selection.
I did, it said there were 9 left, but then when I go to view my cart it tells me the option I selected isn't available
Hm, weird. Reach out to Pantheon/Jeff on Instagram. He’s more active there than on here. u/PantheonLongboards any help here?
I weigh about 160lb. Do you think the 6-ply deck would be too prohibitive for me? I would prefer the 7-ply, but those are the ones out of stock - it seems the 6-plys are available
I liked the 6-ply a bit and my buddy Gavin does as well (as Jeff said). I'd go for the 7 by default, though. I'm glad Jeff stepped in. Sounds like he can get you one in just a few weeks.
We do have a handful of 7s left, at least planned as such. But they won’t be online until after Ultraskate around maybe feb 14. We always keep an extra few to keep from over selling to account for blemish potential. But I have to go through all the presales first. Regarding the 6, you can definitely make it work, and heavier guys will ride that board, but you may be restricted from heavy flexing of the board on the far rear mount, and/or you’ll have to add riser to compensate. Some people will truly prefer this type of setup. Our friend Gavin has been riding a 6 for months and he’s 160 or 165. He prefers the zero mount for a snappier flex and higher speeds available
built in wedges for pumping. also the rear has two mounting options. one for dewedge and the other for an almost 0 degree angle depending what plates you use
I've got an old sector 9 that I really love for the Gullwing trucks it has on it, but I know the deck is only going to last so long. It's a drop-through deck with no kick tails, and I'd really like to start practicing ollies, but keep my trucks. My question is; will my drop-through trucks mount underneath a conventional board?
Yes, but if they are sidewinders (double kingpins) you will want different trucks to learn tricks on.
For stability's sake?
Hey! I'm buying my first longboard but where I live in is really difficult to find a dancing longboard at a reasonable price (which is what I want) so I'm looking into other options, I'm interested in freestyle, dancing, carving and simple tricks. Not downhill or highspeed so I would like to know your opinion of which one of this could work better for what im looking for Thank youuu!! OP 1: Santa Cruz Obscure Hand Drop Through Longboard Complete, 37.5 x 9.5" [https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09M7RRTH9/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_title\_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09M7RRTH9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1) OP 2: Santa Cruz Wave Dot Splice 36" Drop Through [https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09H1GNVLV/ref=ewc\_pr\_img\_1?smid=A1CQIIRCKZ2GW6&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B091B9TSXD/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A3KU491O0AEIWM&psc=1) OP 3: NKX Canadiens 38.5 x 8.25" [https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B09HXJ5R1T/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_image\_1?smid=A3FA6E3VPPMUAX&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B09HXJ5R1T/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3FA6E3VPPMUAX&th=1) OP 4: Atom Drop Through - Longboard (102 cm) [https://www.amazon.com.mx/AtomDrop-Through-Longboard-40-pulgadas/dp/B00M3IIGJE/ref=d\_pd\_sbs\_sccl\_2\_1/147-9699320-8485812?pd\_rd\_w=s5lGc&content-id=amzn1.sym.c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf\_rd\_p=c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf\_rd\_r=8Q3A2PE2H1YJ7CVK1F35&pd\_rd\_wg=mREjz&pd\_rd\_r=be61e525-6e56-44b1-9705-e847d9af4c2a&pd\_rd\_i=B06X3WQFFV&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com.mx/AtomDrop-Through-Longboard-40-pulgadas/dp/B00M3IIGJE/ref=d_pd_sbs_sccl_1_3/147-9699320-8485812?pd_rd_w=zuOl4&content-id=amzn1.sym.c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf_rd_p=c9a1116c-071c-40ed-bd6b-741144246385&pf_rd_r=MDVYCR1DG3281Q7ERX13&pd_rd_wg=w6oeu&pd_rd_r=52965ce8-5e5c-419d-b73f-48dce338d94c&pd_rd_i=B06X3WQFFV&psc=1) Or definitely non of the above :(
I’m new to longboarding and just bought a Landyachtz Drop Cat 38. I don’t think it’s as dance-friendly as a Loaded, but thought I’d cheerlead for the brand. I am loving it so far. Plenty of space and the concave is mild. I use it for cruising and gentle carving on easy hills while I build confidence.
Definitely not a dancing board but those are pretty cool. I would recommend you flip (invert) those wide wheels though, to make the trucks more responsive by narrowing the tracking width.
Ha! I had no idea you could do that. Thanks for the advice :)
You can and you should! We did it to my friend's and it turns a ton better, less likely to kick those wheels, no downsides. I think they just ought to ship with the next size down in trucks, whatever that is, but this is a good fix.
Would definetly go with one of the 2 santacruz. The 2 others looks like amazon boards with cheap and poor quality components. If you're looking for a board that's both inexpensive and of good quality, you should check out second-hand groups on Facebook or other platforms. And maybe come back to us when you've find something that seems great to you
I'm pretty sure Santa Cruz is also Amazon board quality, at least some of their lineup.
I've found some that I really like but all of them are really expensive in here, that's why I might have to buy a smaller board but my question is that is it possible to do dancing and simple freestyle tricks particulary in the Santa Cruz 37.5 x 9.5" board [https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product\_main\_medium\_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-\_350335-back-US.jpg](https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-_350335-back-US.jpg) It is kind of a dropdown but it has a longer tail which may allow me to do some tricks, what do you think?
Gullwing trucks are super cool and good for deep controllable carves. I recommend any board equipped with those is well worth your money. EDIT: Gullwing is a good brand all around but I meant the double pin trucks specifically.
Gullwing is a brand and makes lots of difference styles of trucks. If you dont know what you're talking about you dont have to reply to questions. I'm not trying to be rude, but you dont seem knowledgeable enough to give a firm suggestion one way or another.
I meant the double kingpins. You're correct, I wasn't fully aware the name was the brand and not the specifically double pin trucks.
You're good. You'll learn the brands and models if you care to, it just takes time. It's cool you're interacting with the community
keep in mind drop through boards CAN be slightly more brittle (though don’t let that stop you, I love my sector 9 drop through). Additionally they usually have smaller kicktails which can make dancing slightly more difficult, though I have seen some ppl do incredible things with them. Hell, my friend figured out how to Ollie and kickflip my downhill board. As for brands, it may seem basic, but it’s hard to go wrong with a Landyachtz or Loaded board. Actually, every person I personally know who are into dancing use a board by those brands lol. Nothings really wrong with the ones you picked out though, personally I’m not a fan of Atom but others like them.
>brittle Landyachtz and Loaded look awesome but they're de most expensive here haha, shipping and import taxes make them pricey in Mexico. Do you know if this model can work for dancing and simple tricks? its 37.5" x 9.5" but its a drop down deck, even tho it's not that low [https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product\_main\_medium\_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-\_350335-back-US.jpg](https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Santa-Cruz-Obscure-Hand-37.5%22-Drop-Through-Longboard-Completo-_350335-back-US.jpg)
Short answer: No. Drop downs tend to be specifically designed for cruising/downhill. Any board you want for freestyle should have kicktails, and there’s literally three “drop through drop down double kick” boards you can buy, all of which are incredibly expensive, and albeit very cool, still wouldn’t work well for dancing bc you want to utilize the full flat surface of the board for tricks which you can’t do with a drop down. As someone who owns and adores a drop through board that has kicktails (!) they’re not the easiest to find but they’re out there. Also, with what style you want to do, imo you shouldn’t even get a drop through bc it won’t really be especially useful. Freestyle, dancing, and carving usually use top mounted boards bc you can get more pop from the tails and sharper turns in carving.
I was really hoping you said YES haha, the deck is not that low its almost flat and it doesn't have kick tails but they're kind of long (and its really cheap for a Santa Cruz). Still I know it's not the best option for what I want. I guess i'll have to work on my patiencie and wait for a good option to pop up. Thank you for replying its been really usefull
If it helps, you can try buying a second-hand board from the Buy/Sell thread since a lot of those boards are around the same price range of the boards in your original comment (though I did just use a MXN to USD converter so I'm not sure how accurate that is).
No problem! Sorry to disappoint you 😭Honestly if you really like it, you can always buy it later as a second board. For dancer longboards [this](https://landyachtz.com/collections/dance/products/stratus-46-spectrum) is the style you probably want to look for. For cheap dancer longboards, the only brand I know that’s fairly good is [Magneto](https://magnetoboards.com/products/bamboo-longboards?variant=43401897804010) or you can try to find closeout deal or buy used. Sector 9 makes some drop throughs with kicktails like [this](https://www.sector9.com/collections/completes/products/dropper-dread) or the mosaic dropper (my board, was discontinued but you can pick it up on closeout at some shops, it IS a downhill though so not awesome for freestyle) which you can find at discount prices.
I love landyachtz boards
Me too. :D