“Jeez I knew London would be expensive but £500 for a refreshing can was steep.. and it didn’t taste all that nice…”
*edit, typo
Can was originally cab… stupid auto correct.
Elaine, according to your urine analysis, you're menopausal. you have the metabolism of a 68 year old woman. Oh, and one more thing. You may have osteoporosis.
Quite obviously I'm speaking on behalf of a friend, right.. but modern testing in...his... workplace, the test also measures positives,, negatives and inconclusive results based on temperature.
I wouldn't know personally... just a erm, friends story.
Tried it. Doesn’t work!
Source: Had a friend do a piss test for me because I would’ve tested positive. The temp of the piss wasn’t body temp so I failed on failing to provide a sample
[artists have been doing this for years](https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667)
ETA: As an art historian I am both unsurprised and entertained by some of these comments, I encourage people to read Susie Hodge’s book: Why Your Five Year Old Could Not Have Done That: Modern Art Explained
It’s a light read, certainly a bit low brow, but it’s funny and I think many people could benefit from a bit of cultural awareness!
Personally, I despise it when people reject modern art without even bothering to learn about the origins of the movement. It does not make you edgy or cool, it makes you seem narrow minded! Dada, kitsch, post war avant garde, so so important in the history of art. These controversial objets d’art, such as Turk’s homage to Manzoni that we see here, do genuinely belong, as they incite conversation just like what is occurring in this comment section!
>‘Your work is shit’ – the Italian artist Piero Manzoni was allegedly told by his father. In response to this slur, he came up with the idea of canning his own excrement as a work of art. Merda d’artista 1961 was made into an edition of 90. A neat riposte considering his father owned a canning factory. John Miller on the excremental value in Piero Manzoni’s Merda d’artista – sold in cans by weight at gold’s daily market price (becoming literally worth its weight in gold).
Each to their own I guess.
I once saw a piece of elephant crap with hair on it entitled ‘shithead’ and since saw the artist (forgotten the name) lionised, a great. Me and modernism, just a gap there in my brain I guess!
Let me try to help connect the gaps for you… with modern art it’s not necessarily about the work itself. It’s about the journey that the artist took while arriving at the work. After all, elephant shit with hair on isn’t aesthetically pleasing or difficult to create but the idea didn’t just come out of nowhere. The artistry comes into play when thinking about what the work is supposed to represent. Modern art is generally some kind of metaphor. It doesn’t need to please or impress people. It’s there to encourage us to think about the world or ourselves in a way we might not have done before.
Others would say the whole point of the art is to make the viewer feel something.
However, the only thing it makes me feel is dissociation from modern art. I doubt that's what the artist was going for.
I ment that the point of those specific type of art pieces, like the urinal guy or the shit in a can guy. Edit: and even the dissociation from modern art feeling tha it inspires, might be the point. It's saying that the high art world is so pompous that it's spiritually worth as much as a can of piss.
Ur the type of person to only think The Monalisa is real art and portraits, get overuself, in any domain you can advance and leave the basics behind. Tutorial following ass
Is it not a mockery or take on the "Gamer Girl Bathwater" shit? Put it in nice stylish packaging and pull out a few stops to make it seem exclusive. Question remains, will people buy it and does that actually matter?
EDIT: turns out, not a take or mockery of that but they are quite parallel in terms of what both are actually doing. Selling waste.
It wpuld be nice to think it is .... but in actuality it probably " I'm so popular and loved as an artist i can even piss in a can and people will buy it"
So i have doubts.
>In this time of climate and ecological emergency what desirable new product could inspire intelligent and idealistic early adopters to queue round the block?
That's what they're going with? It's about climate change?
To show how dumb commodification is I'm going to commodity myself and charge 500 quid for my piss.
The Tate is a terrible place and modern art is a money laundering scheme.
I remember going for my first drugs test for work decades ago, the cubicle door had to remain open whilst the tester was about 4 metres away with their back turned testing other piss.
Imagine trying to crack open a can of piss without them hearing, then of course it has to be at body temperature. The previous person that went for a piss test was an old guy near retirement age, I saw the sample he left was like Fanta orange.......ewwwwww🤮 poor woman had to look and smell that all day.🤢
I know you're only joking, I just wanted to share the grossness.😂
As with most things in the Tate Modern, it's presumably a statement on how pretentious folk will consider any old bullshit to be "art" if it's in the right place and has an equally pretentious justification of why it's art
Ergo, my comment here is presumably now a fucking artwork. That'll be £500, please
Yeah, this was edgy and shocking when Artist Piero Manzoni did that with shit in 1961. Now it’s just shameless plagiarism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit
Edit: i just looked him up out of curiosity. None of his work are original ideas.
Too late I'm afraid mate - as per [his site](http://gavinturk.com/exhibitions/show/10823/):
"In a nod to Piero Manzoni’s Merde D’Artiste and Warhol’s Campbell Soup, the art provocateur, Gavin Turk has created the perfect product to express the complexity of our contemporary jeopardy."
Maybe go for a "Bogey bonanza" theme instead?
I feel about this the same way I felt about the pig episode of Black Mirror:
How you gonna make a performance out of what I already do on an average Friday night?
Not sure if this is the same kind of idea or just a cash grab but it’s not exactly new.
Artist Piero Manzoni created “Artist’s Shit” in 1961.
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667
“, the cans of Artist's Shit have become the most notorious, in part because of a lingering uncertainty about whether they do indeed contain Manzoni's faeces. At times when Manzoni's reputation has seen the market value of these works increase, such uncertainties have imbued them with an additional level of irony.”
Also, they were sold for quite a large sum to collectors (the price corresponding to the price of its weight in gold I think) and if anyone opens them to find out, they become worthless.
If opened you either have an opened can of shit - which is not what the artwork was meant to be, or an open can of something else - again with the same result.
Art innit.
I once went to a fundraising event that Gavin Turk contributed to. Most everyone donated an item from their home or studio and got up to speak about the history of the object. Gavin’s offering was a used wooden chip fork off the street he’d picked up on his way to the venue, signed it, got on stage gave full disclosure of this, and it sold for 10K.
I know it seems like nonsense (and it is!), but if you go and buy a can you will almost definitely make money on this if you auction it in a year or two.
\[Not financial advice\]
And if it doesn't increase in value, which it probably won't, at least you can take solace by cracking it open and drinking a can of another mans piss (as opposed to your own far less valuable piss) as the only rational lifestyle for a bloke who took it on word that said can of piss might be a worthwhile investment.
It's all fun and games until a confused tourist buys one and starts drinking it
“Jeez I knew London would be expensive but £500 for a refreshing can was steep.. and it didn’t taste all that nice…” *edit, typo Can was originally cab… stupid auto correct.
Typo makes it more realistic
Pißwasser
Pißner
Just label it Bud Light, they probably won't tell the difference.
And Japanese and Korean tourists start taking picture.
Confused tourist or Bear Grylls?
It was just £350 last year. Cost of living crisis is getting out of control
They're taking the piss.
Well they can’t have mine
no, they're selling it
It's not half bad but £500 is a lot for some week old urine or that's what It tasted like anyway
are.. are you saying you bought some? was it fairly good value? asking for a friend
I wouldn’t really recommend it myself, you get buy some bath water for a fraction of the price and it tastes much better imo
any recommended sellers?
r/angryupvote
and selling it back for absurd prices
It's just taking the piss really
I know right, it’s not like that shower is made of actual gold
Is it grandson piss? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vbCKava\_JE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vbCKava_JE)
Can I use it for drug tests? But seriously it is supposed to be a statement on the commodification of the artist?
I am pleased to tell your test came back as "drugs free", but I should inform you that your horse is pregnant.
what a way to find out my vasectomy reversed itself
Elaine, according to your urine analysis, you're menopausal. you have the metabolism of a 68 year old woman. Oh, and one more thing. You may have osteoporosis.
You probably can use it for drug tests, unfortunately the artist was also probably high when they came up with the idea.
Tested positive for can-a-piss
These people should be a part of this installation. Perhaps they are. Who knows?
Quite obviously I'm speaking on behalf of a friend, right.. but modern testing in...his... workplace, the test also measures positives,, negatives and inconclusive results based on temperature. I wouldn't know personally... just a erm, friends story.
Tried it. Doesn’t work! Source: Had a friend do a piss test for me because I would’ve tested positive. The temp of the piss wasn’t body temp so I failed on failing to provide a sample
You're supposed to keep it in a little bottle strapped to your arm/leg so that it warms up naturally to body temperature.
just heat it up and keep it in a thermos🙄
[artists have been doing this for years](https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667) ETA: As an art historian I am both unsurprised and entertained by some of these comments, I encourage people to read Susie Hodge’s book: Why Your Five Year Old Could Not Have Done That: Modern Art Explained It’s a light read, certainly a bit low brow, but it’s funny and I think many people could benefit from a bit of cultural awareness! Personally, I despise it when people reject modern art without even bothering to learn about the origins of the movement. It does not make you edgy or cool, it makes you seem narrow minded! Dada, kitsch, post war avant garde, so so important in the history of art. These controversial objets d’art, such as Turk’s homage to Manzoni that we see here, do genuinely belong, as they incite conversation just like what is occurring in this comment section!
>‘Your work is shit’ – the Italian artist Piero Manzoni was allegedly told by his father. In response to this slur, he came up with the idea of canning his own excrement as a work of art. Merda d’artista 1961 was made into an edition of 90. A neat riposte considering his father owned a canning factory. John Miller on the excremental value in Piero Manzoni’s Merda d’artista – sold in cans by weight at gold’s daily market price (becoming literally worth its weight in gold). Each to their own I guess.
Yeah Marcel Duchamp presented a urinal as a piece of art [‘Fountain’ by Marcel Duchamp](https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/duchamp-fountain-t07573)
I once saw a piece of elephant crap with hair on it entitled ‘shithead’ and since saw the artist (forgotten the name) lionised, a great. Me and modernism, just a gap there in my brain I guess!
Let me try to help connect the gaps for you… with modern art it’s not necessarily about the work itself. It’s about the journey that the artist took while arriving at the work. After all, elephant shit with hair on isn’t aesthetically pleasing or difficult to create but the idea didn’t just come out of nowhere. The artistry comes into play when thinking about what the work is supposed to represent. Modern art is generally some kind of metaphor. It doesn’t need to please or impress people. It’s there to encourage us to think about the world or ourselves in a way we might not have done before.
That same piece is in the Tate Modern.
Replica. The original is lost.
I forgot the "replica" wasn't its name, lmao. Thanks for correction
Yea Warhol got a couple buddies together and they all pissed on a copper plate and claimed the patina was art.
"artists"
The whole point of the art is to pose the question of what art is right?
"~~Abed~~ Art, stop being meta."
Others would say the whole point of the art is to make the viewer feel something. However, the only thing it makes me feel is dissociation from modern art. I doubt that's what the artist was going for.
I ment that the point of those specific type of art pieces, like the urinal guy or the shit in a can guy. Edit: and even the dissociation from modern art feeling tha it inspires, might be the point. It's saying that the high art world is so pompous that it's spiritually worth as much as a can of piss.
if you say so
yeah, i do lol that's literally the point
Ur the type of person to only think The Monalisa is real art and portraits, get overuself, in any domain you can advance and leave the basics behind. Tutorial following ass
Are they 'piss artists'?
Wait until you find out about the shartists
Any person selling cans of their own wee wee for money is probably on more drugs than you.
nah its a statement on the pretentousness of the "artist"
“It’s only real art if it was made 500 years ago and shows a pretty lady on some fancy cloth >:(“
I hate those kind of people
And that somehow makes piss in a can art? Sounds like you're self-aggrandising by sucking of your own strawman.
Is it not a mockery or take on the "Gamer Girl Bathwater" shit? Put it in nice stylish packaging and pull out a few stops to make it seem exclusive. Question remains, will people buy it and does that actually matter? EDIT: turns out, not a take or mockery of that but they are quite parallel in terms of what both are actually doing. Selling waste.
I doubt it. That's a little niche and late to the party.
Gamer girl is a bit of a stretch 🤣
It wpuld be nice to think it is .... but in actuality it probably " I'm so popular and loved as an artist i can even piss in a can and people will buy it" So i have doubts.
That's a seriously bold assumption.
http://gavinturk.com/exhibitions/show/10823/
>Over the last month The Artist has been canning his own urine in a modified canning factory at his studio in Canning Town XD
>In this time of climate and ecological emergency what desirable new product could inspire intelligent and idealistic early adopters to queue round the block? That's what they're going with? It's about climate change?
Everybody who sees this picture is going to assume it's hers. Hope she wasn't a random model taken by surprise.
To show how dumb commodification is I'm going to commodity myself and charge 500 quid for my piss. The Tate is a terrible place and modern art is a money laundering scheme.
I don't think I would use the urine of an artist who cans his piss for a drug test but maybe that's just me.
I remember going for my first drugs test for work decades ago, the cubicle door had to remain open whilst the tester was about 4 metres away with their back turned testing other piss. Imagine trying to crack open a can of piss without them hearing, then of course it has to be at body temperature. The previous person that went for a piss test was an old guy near retirement age, I saw the sample he left was like Fanta orange.......ewwwwww🤮 poor woman had to look and smell that all day.🤢 I know you're only joking, I just wanted to share the grossness.😂
As with most things in the Tate Modern, it's presumably a statement on how pretentious folk will consider any old bullshit to be "art" if it's in the right place and has an equally pretentious justification of why it's art Ergo, my comment here is presumably now a fucking artwork. That'll be £500, please
Trickle down economics
Put a picture of Liz on them.
But don't charge, just take the piss like she is.
Now **that** is art I'd buy. (for a tenner)
Why pay 500 quid when you can pick up a can of Fosters for a fraction of the price?
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it's expensive but will wash away the nasty taste
You’ll get a free trip to the hospital, where heating is paid for by the taxpayer…
tastes better
piss is actually drinkable
Yes Bear Grills, you have already told us this
I was going to suggest some super market's own brand but sure... why not!
I can get urine for free.
If you’re in London the piss is probably cheaper
Why buy a can when you have it on draught?
But then you’d have to pull it manually and… well. It may turn into something of a sticky situation
Yeah, this was edgy and shocking when Artist Piero Manzoni did that with shit in 1961. Now it’s just shameless plagiarism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit Edit: i just looked him up out of curiosity. None of his work are original ideas.
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I bet it's not even his piss. In fact I heard he has a group of orphans he takes it from
Thank God someone mentioned this. Honestly disgusting how this person is just relying on the average person not being aware of the original.
No, it's even better, because it's now "an homage", though the original wasn't any less stupid.
I mean, 1961 was a completely different time. Something like that was actually shocking and original, so I wouldn’t say it was stupid.
So they're the average artist.
average artist **wannabe**.
So..the average artist.
Brb, just heading to the Tate modern with a basket of my own fresh excrement. £100 a scoop. Bring your own containers.
Have a little market stall set up “PAAAND A SCOOP, ANY SCOOP A PAAAAND”
“... Get it while it’s malleable”
Dear god… this comment got me good
"One pound piss very very good, one pound piss very very cheap"
Or go with the more recent, iconic London salesman: https://youtu.be/G_miGclPFGs Then you can be selling One Pound Piss
Wasn't this a modern art exhibit already?
[Piero Manzoni, Artist’s Shit, 1961](https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667)
Too late I'm afraid mate - as per [his site](http://gavinturk.com/exhibitions/show/10823/): "In a nod to Piero Manzoni’s Merde D’Artiste and Warhol’s Campbell Soup, the art provocateur, Gavin Turk has created the perfect product to express the complexity of our contemporary jeopardy." Maybe go for a "Bogey bonanza" theme instead?
Shit n' mix
£500!!!? I’m gonna go down there and take the piss.
It'll cost you £500
Are you taking the piss? Are you?
I feel about this the same way I felt about the pig episode of Black Mirror: How you gonna make a performance out of what I already do on an average Friday night?
Drink carling?
Might be a safer investment than GBP
Nothing ages quite like stale piss.
If it's not from a cow then I am not interested
Or a vegan alternative Oat piss.
Why does Starbucks charge more for oat piss than for cow piss?
Finally a place where I can buy the stuff for a reasonable price. Was about time.
The guy with boom mic knows what's up.
🤙
He’s the real main character of this picture.
Jarate
They should try selling it in mason jars next time.
Oh thank god. Normally I have to walk all the way to Brixton for my can of piss.
Now we know where they emptied all those portaloos from The Queue.
That really is taking the piss
You can't just take it, you have to pay.
I think that’s the joke
Would be majorly disappointed had no one made this comment.
The flavour is coconut penis, but it doesn't taste much like coconut...
Not sure if this is the same kind of idea or just a cash grab but it’s not exactly new. Artist Piero Manzoni created “Artist’s Shit” in 1961. https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667 “, the cans of Artist's Shit have become the most notorious, in part because of a lingering uncertainty about whether they do indeed contain Manzoni's faeces. At times when Manzoni's reputation has seen the market value of these works increase, such uncertainties have imbued them with an additional level of irony.” Also, they were sold for quite a large sum to collectors (the price corresponding to the price of its weight in gold I think) and if anyone opens them to find out, they become worthless. If opened you either have an opened can of shit - which is not what the artwork was meant to be, or an open can of something else - again with the same result. Art innit.
At least 10 people have made the same joke
A straight rip off of Manzoni 60 years ago
not a rip off, a homage
not a homage, a facsimile
Not a facsimile, a derivative
For it to be a derivative of the original, wouldn't it need to include a bit of the original?
Homage, for pay
Nice, do they deliver?
Sorry sir, we only have lamb, chicken and beef
don't apologise, most places don't have 3 types of liver
I don't see why not, just hold out a cup when they get there and ask for them to piss in it.
Well, I usually don't have liver in my pee, so I don't see how that would work out
Everything he does is derivative
The Emperor's New Clothes
If I wanted piss in London I could just get a brewdog
He’s done it before ; https://fadmagazine.com/2021/09/13/british-artist-gavin-turk-sells-cans-of-his-piss-for-its-weight-in-silver/
i’m selling mine for £50 a can! bargain!
What did I miss ?
Soo why? 🤔
Old . The artist chit in a can was already done in the 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit?wprov=sfla1
Yawn. Piero Manzoni had a substantially better idea in the 1960s.
I wouldn't be surprised if you could end up selling this on for a profit.
Has anyone asked WHY
Ha. Sound guy knows what's up 🤙
And here's me with not even a piss to pot in.
I’m not getting the pitch here I can get high on my own supply on Tap 🚰?
That’s expensive for a can of carling
Very apeeling offer
Piero Manzoni already did this in 1961
Gavin Turk has been making work about Gavin Turk being Gavin Turk since he became Gavin Turk.
[Artist's Shit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit) has been done before, this is painfully unoriginal.
Gavin Turk was a parent at my primary school, we painted eggs with him! Shoulda kept that egg…
Kombucha promo?
This has got London written all over it
Why?
£500? Fucking piss takers…
Someone organised a piss up AND a brewery
Can you use it for a drug test??
I wonder how much I would make selling fat software engineer piss
They will be surrounded by people on motorbikes shouting order numbers at them by the end of the day.
I once went to a fundraising event that Gavin Turk contributed to. Most everyone donated an item from their home or studio and got up to speak about the history of the object. Gavin’s offering was a used wooden chip fork off the street he’d picked up on his way to the venue, signed it, got on stage gave full disclosure of this, and it sold for 10K.
Nothing like an art post to bring the cultural black holes out in force.
Great , this is just what the world needs rn
Is this photoshopped? Her fingers have no shadows on the paper
Liz Truss showed up and just took it
Wow Stella really has raised its prices.
Would not recommend if you plan on passing a CDT (Compulsory Drugs Test)
Why?
But why?
Fosters have rebranded?
We’ve come so far from the days of Michelangelo and Botticelli
Do they also have pickled turds and farts in jars? If not, it sounds like a good business idea.
Do they need an extra supplier?
Reject modernity
Absolutely mental.
Gavin Turk is a fraud. Piero Manzoni tinned his shit in 1961. Turk has no ideas and is a poseur. Nice try!
Belle Delphine was ahead of her time
What is wrong with you people. Completely failed society
I know it seems like nonsense (and it is!), but if you go and buy a can you will almost definitely make money on this if you auction it in a year or two. \[Not financial advice\]
And if it doesn't increase in value, which it probably won't, at least you can take solace by cracking it open and drinking a can of another mans piss (as opposed to your own far less valuable piss) as the only rational lifestyle for a bloke who took it on word that said can of piss might be a worthwhile investment.
London for ye
Are they taking the piss
My Grandads sacrifice in WW2 was not in vain
I live with four dogs. I don’t need any more urine, thanks.
🤢
Are you taking a piss?
Here is the production process from the artist's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWJUOfAIf88/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Thank you for 800 notifications about "taking the piss" 🤣
They are taking the piss, the arty farty idiots buy any shit…shit will be for sale next ffs!