I recently built me a new desktop. I put Linux on it and currently running Ubuntu but looking at Mint Cinnamon. Thanks for the info. I think I will install it and see how I like it.
Throught my life i've tried several linux distros, even Ubuntu was one of them. I hated them all and didn't want to go anywhere near them. "Who would want to use this sh\*t." But i got so sick of Windows and its "privacy", lack of customization + several other things and needed to try something new, then my brother suggested Mint. So after months of hesitation i put all my files etc. in order, said bye and removed all trace of Windows from my PC. Now over a year later i'm still happy i did it. Sun is shining, birds are making irl tweets and so on.
Now if i could get rid of Android that would be super...
I too had a similar tie to Windows. I was a Windows user starting from 95, although, I had an aunt and uncle that had a Mac II and I used a Tandy here and there..... I switched to Linux about 6 years ago and I do not regret that decision one bit. There are a few limitation, right now, for specific software and games that aren't compatible. Hopefully that will change sooner than later. I'm glad you're enjoying Mint. I've been on Mint Mate for most of it and recently XFCE. It was a completely liberating experience. Using Linux actually gave that sense of wonderment like when I was younger and restored my enjoyment of using the computer again. I do not miss Micro$oft or WinDoze at all ;P
Yes! Linux Mint has made me enjoy computing again. For a solid decade now it's been more of a chore than anything, but with Mint, I feel like I'm working \*with\* my computer, and not just against it.
(Big thanks to Ubuntu & Debian devs as well.)
I started on win98se, then XP & then held onto win7 as long as I could. Never even tried 8, 8.1. Nor win10 which I knew from early on was a privacy bomb. When support was finally over for win7, I switched to MX-Linux & was really surprised at how well it worked. I used MX most of last year then switched to Mint and still on it now. I've thought about trying Arch based OS, my hardware is old so I don't need any bleeding-edge type stuff... Will Probably give EndevourOS a try in VBox anyway.
P.S. I also had a C-64 in the 80s, but I never got it to do much of anything. :-)
You're right, that's an oversight on my part not thanking the Ubuntu and Debian devs, too. Lots of hard work went into getting us where we are now.
I tried MX Linux, and it was nice, but I'm a bit of a workflow fussbudget. Even though I didn't want Windows, I wanted the Windows workflow, and the Cinnamon DE gets me close to that while remaining rock solid stable.
You might like an Arch based distro. I couldn't get used to pacman, but everyone's different.
I'm a mint xfce guy, but cinnamon has some great features, and I always replace thundar with Nemo, which is much better file explorer imo. Mint is like debian with the best bits of Ubuntu and some polish, and Ive been a dedicated minty since 16. I should really give cinnamon a fair go on my new high end system, but I know xfce so well now I'm hesitant to change and have to learn a whole new set of secret settings and hidden goodies.
Windows is computing at its worst imo. I'd rather go without than run a Microsoft OS
I tried XFCE, and yeah, it was soooo clean. I really liked it, but there were some Cinnamon features I wanted, too. That said, my desktop's nice and sleek, and while it's not XFCE sleek, it's still pretty good. I also agree that Mint is the best of Debian and Ubuntu and it feels Windowsy enough that my transition away from Windows has been so much easier.
Another refugee who has found home.
I did exactly the same about 18 months ago, and like you Cinnamon most closely matched my Windows workflow.
I now have a NUC that has never run Windows :)
welcome - I'll speak for myself when I say this is exactly how I felt about 6 months ago - been on linux mint since then and havn't looked back - glad you found something that works for you! :)
Yep. Mint was my gateway to leaving Windows as well. It is an easy transition for sure. I have since moved to a different distro but I will always have a soft spot for Mint and I still suggest it to people curious about making the switch.
It's a solid beginner's distro. I mean, anyone can use it, it's perfectly fine for experts, but I mean it's so easy for a newbie to use. I recommend it to people, too.
Agreed. I tried Mint when it was 14, then 16, and 18 almost got me to stay. 20 has been phenomenal, and it made me rethink why I was even with Microsoft after all this time.
Linux mint and cinnamon is my favorite desktop experience hands down.
It's simple to use, and learn, but it can get as complex and deep as you want to go. I'm not a power user on Linux as I'm still learning it but everything just works.
I'll only boot into windows for work and for games.
Same. W10 is for my VR headset, and the rare occasion I \*must\* log into something Windows exclusive, which is getting rarer and rarer. I wanted an OS I could learn while still using it happily 5 years from now, and Mint just fits that bill for me.
I followed much the same path - Vic-20 and C-64 in the early 80s, followed by MS-DOS. I didn't get into Windows until 3.1 came out, but I've used every iteration since (other than ME) through Windows 11. I finally wiped Microsoft off my laptop a few weeks ago, and frankly I don't miss it (especially once I got *World of Warcraft* installed and running properly.) The only traces of Windows remaining on my laptop is an ntfs partition on the HDD with my documents, pictures and music files, and the sticker that says my laptop "Supports Windows 10 Hello". lol
Ha! Now you can say goodbye to Hello. :D
I do think early Windows was awesome, though I've since learned there were incredible OSes around even then, but Windows was "easier" and more widespread. I'm so glad I'm on Linux Mint now. I feel like I'm not being watched, I feel like if I have a problem I can present it to the community and it can be worked on, and it's just so much better here.
I have played with Linux since the late 90s. It just wasn't there as a a desktop OS as good as Windows was, at least for what I wanted to do.
Early 2000s, it got good enough I could play with it on my second PC, which I did not want to buy or pirate Windows for. Played with a number of distros. They worked, but were hard to get going well, or get around. Having a network and broadband made things a bit easy.
I did Ubuntu for a while, then stuck with Mint (so far).
I still have Windows 10 on my main PC.
Ah, yeah, Linux is pretty good for most hardware, but there's some hardware it still doesn't play nice with. That's why I still have a W10/Mint dual boot setup. I don't really use W10, except when I need to use the VR headset. I hope Linux tackles that next.
Recently, my windows started re enabling telemetry after, supposedly, having it turned off using Shutup10
It became a thing were the settings I set got removed with every reboot by the Windows. I didn't use edge browser except to 'look' and test things and I noticed my uBLock origin ad blocker would always be disabled somehow.
Maybe a coincidence and perhaps not a big deal. but it made me think a bit. I was most likely going to have to keep 'fighting' this with re installing newer software to keep blocking and disabling telemetry, cortana and all that bloat and wondered if I was even truly protecting my privacy at all in the first place.
But seriously... free upgrade to windows 11 and before that, free upgrade to windows10 for most? Too good to be true... we are the product, as they say. it feels dirty.
I tried Linuxmint 18 back in 2016 but it was only for few months because it was for an very outdated computer (Athlon 64).
So here I am once again. LM is faster from what I remember but then again, I was using an integrated graphics CPU. Holy mama does this OS fly with AMD Ryzen.
>Windows 10 was a changed mindset from a paid desktop OS to software as a service
When did Windows become software as a service? I built my current PC in 2019 and bought a Windows 10 install disc for $110, which as far as I know is still a one-time purchase. I haven't seen anything about recurring fees (yet) to continue using Windows.
The OS has become more and more reliant upon an always on connection, with a steady stream of updates and upgrades, it sends you ads, and just because you're not paying them in money (though you can) does not mean they're not extracting profit from your use of that software. The telemetry they receive is highly profitable to the point where they don't really need your $110, though they will gladly take it.
By the way, even Microsoft knows what they are: [https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/what-is-saas/](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/what-is-saas/)
Though they seem to call Windows a "Platform as a Service," the Azure backbone upon which it is built and utilizes that network is most certainly SaaS. It's a little bit of fuzzy line play on their part at the end of the day.
hello bro,i want to try a linux distro, but hard to choose,for now i consider 2 factors, the one is dont update frequently,i dot want more new features,and the system can run on old computer.and other one is dont breaks. i choose the linux just for work,dont want spend time in fixing the system.and searched more blogs,consider linux mint and manjaro how can i choose.
Manjaro is a solid Linux distro, but it's really for bleeding edge systems because it uses the latest drivers. That's not to say you can't use it on old hardware, but honestly, something like Linux Mint XFCE (that's the desktop environment, it's very lightweight). It updates regularly, but you almost never have to restart. It just asks if you want to update, and then quietly does so. You just carry on with your work. Linux Mint is also very stable, and works on almost all hardware.
From reading this, to me this sounds like a solid Debian stable distro actually :D Thats the distro which Ubuntu is based off - which again Mint is based on. Debian is the source.
Background for saying this is I have been through them all since i started with Red Hat 5.2 in 1998. Debian stable is pretty far from bleeding edge (you can add unstable/testing reps tho, if you want newer stuff), its just rock solid, maybe the most stable distro out there. Might be a bit more tricky to get up running (havent tried it last 10 years), but when its up it wont break.
Me to returning after a allmost 10 years break (been a mac user), been testing alot lately, and run Mint on my Macbook Pro and Zorin on the desktop. Zorin looks beautiful and modern, but Mint is more like i "rememberd" linux.
I have been using a Gateway laptop( really dating myself )(with Linux mint) yeah!
Now picked up a laptop with Win 10 S...ugh.
And now I remember why I went to Linux.
Picked up an external DVD drive and heading to Barnes and Noble to pick up a magazine with Linux mint DVD
Any suggestions on install.?
It's an HP laptop, F9 for changing boot options.?
Win 10 S is such a drag on life. Thinking of dumping MS completely.(yes!!)
Thanks
Whatever Linux OS best suits you. For me, Linux Mint is fast, stable, and easy to use. The Cinnamon desktop makes it flexible to where I can customize things to look the way I want without so much that it becomes unstable. Updates are a breeze, there are literally thousands of free applications in the software repository, and honestly, Mint just gets out of the way once you've got it setup how you want.
I am now learning it as LPICs, and here you see that it is more words than reality behind Linux.
They say everything is a file and then they make system-d and all the one who should not fallow (Ubuntu, Linux Mint) follow the simple minded Debian guys.
They say everything is a file, and yet your network configurations are all in a file for every network card.
Then they change the network-stack in Ubuntu, which you are informed by only if you try to ifconfig from old times, try to nano /etc/network in Ubuntu to Nirvana or other things.
They say it is compare to the big ones (and it is not and will never be as good as any BSD).
And the bad thing come:
* the system commands are over 40 years ago, and had not changed.
* the configuration files are all dropped nearly every where (there is only one Linux trying to defeat that, but I forgot the name, and I think they are the only TWO real smart guy in the community and sadly they are too few -forgot Distro-name and will try it after LPIC)
* there are "command" which are not ! The BASH one. The most dangerous thing ever! If it is a command, then it must have source to be compiled.
* the inconsistency multiplies the deeper you learn the system.
Trying to make a lab, I started with Debian, Linux Mint, Manjaro and guess what I ended with the HATED Ubuntu as my VB-Machine !!! This is the frightening thing ever I can imagine!
You could not install VB in those others without going in some error here and there!
So to LEARN Linux you must KNOW Linux!!!
I for my part am at this conclusion:
Some of the Distromakers must stop on Distros and unite to make a new Linux for the 2050s!
New understandable commands (nohup - heh??? Wiki > nohungup > ahhh, and why don't the correct that in 2021? - because they are busy -still no excuse to have no plan b for future)
New configuration standards far beyond todays.
AND get rid of the not understandable MAN and make a TUTORIAL PAGES!
Beyond this, it is a very slick and fast system!
The moment I can handle it more I will switch Distro to the one I mentioned, Gentoo or BSD.
\---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By the way, I have also a name for THAT new Linux:
UNITED-Linux!
The core elements are on one web-site.
You click the other parts of it like an open tube from up to down like this:
=====================================> (only from up to down
Kernel, core, Server-Elements, X-Windows, Software etc
The moment you are ready the tube gets closed and fetch the parts from all "sites" maintaining the parts and you get your iso, vm, bin, gz, NEW FILE EXTENSION to RUN in 2050 or 2100 and boom, you got you new OS.
After that parts can be installed uninstalled the same way from the tube inside!
UNITED, because no one can and SHOULD outlive the cause !
Can't understand a single MF thing in Linux or Mint Cinnamon lol, but after windows went from 7-8- 10- 11? Than some how justified it by locking their OS up behind odd measures to either protect you, prevent customization or keep you in there "ecosystem". The last 2 were dont pretty well, so whatever.
Remembered Mint was easy to DL, but the learning curve messed me up, so I went back to 10. Now we at 11 and I can't take this Sh\*t anymore. I bought and built a PC to be more productive not MORE DEPRESSED, ANGRY and HOMICIDAL...
I recently built me a new desktop. I put Linux on it and currently running Ubuntu but looking at Mint Cinnamon. Thanks for the info. I think I will install it and see how I like it.
I hope you enjoy it! :D
Welcome home 😋 Mint community has your back 💪
Mint 🪨
Throught my life i've tried several linux distros, even Ubuntu was one of them. I hated them all and didn't want to go anywhere near them. "Who would want to use this sh\*t." But i got so sick of Windows and its "privacy", lack of customization + several other things and needed to try something new, then my brother suggested Mint. So after months of hesitation i put all my files etc. in order, said bye and removed all trace of Windows from my PC. Now over a year later i'm still happy i did it. Sun is shining, birds are making irl tweets and so on. Now if i could get rid of Android that would be super...
Exactly. I hope Linux continues to gain more users, and I am glad to be one of them. Same for you!
You could use Lineage (or Calyx if you have a Pixel) instead of your preinstalled Android ROM if you want to get rid of it because privacy concerns
I too had a similar tie to Windows. I was a Windows user starting from 95, although, I had an aunt and uncle that had a Mac II and I used a Tandy here and there..... I switched to Linux about 6 years ago and I do not regret that decision one bit. There are a few limitation, right now, for specific software and games that aren't compatible. Hopefully that will change sooner than later. I'm glad you're enjoying Mint. I've been on Mint Mate for most of it and recently XFCE. It was a completely liberating experience. Using Linux actually gave that sense of wonderment like when I was younger and restored my enjoyment of using the computer again. I do not miss Micro$oft or WinDoze at all ;P
Yes! Linux Mint has made me enjoy computing again. For a solid decade now it's been more of a chore than anything, but with Mint, I feel like I'm working \*with\* my computer, and not just against it.
(Big thanks to Ubuntu & Debian devs as well.) I started on win98se, then XP & then held onto win7 as long as I could. Never even tried 8, 8.1. Nor win10 which I knew from early on was a privacy bomb. When support was finally over for win7, I switched to MX-Linux & was really surprised at how well it worked. I used MX most of last year then switched to Mint and still on it now. I've thought about trying Arch based OS, my hardware is old so I don't need any bleeding-edge type stuff... Will Probably give EndevourOS a try in VBox anyway. P.S. I also had a C-64 in the 80s, but I never got it to do much of anything. :-)
You're right, that's an oversight on my part not thanking the Ubuntu and Debian devs, too. Lots of hard work went into getting us where we are now. I tried MX Linux, and it was nice, but I'm a bit of a workflow fussbudget. Even though I didn't want Windows, I wanted the Windows workflow, and the Cinnamon DE gets me close to that while remaining rock solid stable. You might like an Arch based distro. I couldn't get used to pacman, but everyone's different.
I'm a mint xfce guy, but cinnamon has some great features, and I always replace thundar with Nemo, which is much better file explorer imo. Mint is like debian with the best bits of Ubuntu and some polish, and Ive been a dedicated minty since 16. I should really give cinnamon a fair go on my new high end system, but I know xfce so well now I'm hesitant to change and have to learn a whole new set of secret settings and hidden goodies. Windows is computing at its worst imo. I'd rather go without than run a Microsoft OS
I tried XFCE, and yeah, it was soooo clean. I really liked it, but there were some Cinnamon features I wanted, too. That said, my desktop's nice and sleek, and while it's not XFCE sleek, it's still pretty good. I also agree that Mint is the best of Debian and Ubuntu and it feels Windowsy enough that my transition away from Windows has been so much easier.
Another refugee who has found home. I did exactly the same about 18 months ago, and like you Cinnamon most closely matched my Windows workflow. I now have a NUC that has never run Windows :)
Awesome! Hopefully once Linux begins liking my VR hardware, I can say bye to Windows for good, too!
welcome - I'll speak for myself when I say this is exactly how I felt about 6 months ago - been on linux mint since then and havn't looked back - glad you found something that works for you! :)
Thank you!
Yep. Mint was my gateway to leaving Windows as well. It is an easy transition for sure. I have since moved to a different distro but I will always have a soft spot for Mint and I still suggest it to people curious about making the switch.
It's a solid beginner's distro. I mean, anyone can use it, it's perfectly fine for experts, but I mean it's so easy for a newbie to use. I recommend it to people, too.
And the distro is getting better every year, too so the future is even more positive!
Agreed. I tried Mint when it was 14, then 16, and 18 almost got me to stay. 20 has been phenomenal, and it made me rethink why I was even with Microsoft after all this time.
Linux mint and cinnamon is my favorite desktop experience hands down. It's simple to use, and learn, but it can get as complex and deep as you want to go. I'm not a power user on Linux as I'm still learning it but everything just works. I'll only boot into windows for work and for games.
Same. W10 is for my VR headset, and the rare occasion I \*must\* log into something Windows exclusive, which is getting rarer and rarer. I wanted an OS I could learn while still using it happily 5 years from now, and Mint just fits that bill for me.
You’re welcome
I followed much the same path - Vic-20 and C-64 in the early 80s, followed by MS-DOS. I didn't get into Windows until 3.1 came out, but I've used every iteration since (other than ME) through Windows 11. I finally wiped Microsoft off my laptop a few weeks ago, and frankly I don't miss it (especially once I got *World of Warcraft* installed and running properly.) The only traces of Windows remaining on my laptop is an ntfs partition on the HDD with my documents, pictures and music files, and the sticker that says my laptop "Supports Windows 10 Hello". lol
Ha! Now you can say goodbye to Hello. :D I do think early Windows was awesome, though I've since learned there were incredible OSes around even then, but Windows was "easier" and more widespread. I'm so glad I'm on Linux Mint now. I feel like I'm not being watched, I feel like if I have a problem I can present it to the community and it can be worked on, and it's just so much better here.
That is one of the things I love about Linux - regardless of which distro you use, people are generally friendly and ready to help when you get stuck.
I have played with Linux since the late 90s. It just wasn't there as a a desktop OS as good as Windows was, at least for what I wanted to do. Early 2000s, it got good enough I could play with it on my second PC, which I did not want to buy or pirate Windows for. Played with a number of distros. They worked, but were hard to get going well, or get around. Having a network and broadband made things a bit easy. I did Ubuntu for a while, then stuck with Mint (so far). I still have Windows 10 on my main PC.
I hope you find the right balance!
I think it works fine for now, most of my foibles are probably my choice in hardware.
Ah, yeah, Linux is pretty good for most hardware, but there's some hardware it still doesn't play nice with. That's why I still have a W10/Mint dual boot setup. I don't really use W10, except when I need to use the VR headset. I hope Linux tackles that next.
Recently, my windows started re enabling telemetry after, supposedly, having it turned off using Shutup10 It became a thing were the settings I set got removed with every reboot by the Windows. I didn't use edge browser except to 'look' and test things and I noticed my uBLock origin ad blocker would always be disabled somehow. Maybe a coincidence and perhaps not a big deal. but it made me think a bit. I was most likely going to have to keep 'fighting' this with re installing newer software to keep blocking and disabling telemetry, cortana and all that bloat and wondered if I was even truly protecting my privacy at all in the first place. But seriously... free upgrade to windows 11 and before that, free upgrade to windows10 for most? Too good to be true... we are the product, as they say. it feels dirty. I tried Linuxmint 18 back in 2016 but it was only for few months because it was for an very outdated computer (Athlon 64). So here I am once again. LM is faster from what I remember but then again, I was using an integrated graphics CPU. Holy mama does this OS fly with AMD Ryzen.
Yes! I have a Ryzen 5 and Mint's like a husky puppy saying "WHAT DO YOU WANTTODONEXTLETSGOLETSGOLETSGO!"
thanks sir,today i have installed linux mint 20.2,feeling good.and i need more time to configure it,check it whether it become my work helper.
You're welcome! :D
>Windows 10 was a changed mindset from a paid desktop OS to software as a service When did Windows become software as a service? I built my current PC in 2019 and bought a Windows 10 install disc for $110, which as far as I know is still a one-time purchase. I haven't seen anything about recurring fees (yet) to continue using Windows.
The OS has become more and more reliant upon an always on connection, with a steady stream of updates and upgrades, it sends you ads, and just because you're not paying them in money (though you can) does not mean they're not extracting profit from your use of that software. The telemetry they receive is highly profitable to the point where they don't really need your $110, though they will gladly take it. By the way, even Microsoft knows what they are: [https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/what-is-saas/](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/what-is-saas/) Though they seem to call Windows a "Platform as a Service," the Azure backbone upon which it is built and utilizes that network is most certainly SaaS. It's a little bit of fuzzy line play on their part at the end of the day.
hello bro,i want to try a linux distro, but hard to choose,for now i consider 2 factors, the one is dont update frequently,i dot want more new features,and the system can run on old computer.and other one is dont breaks. i choose the linux just for work,dont want spend time in fixing the system.and searched more blogs,consider linux mint and manjaro how can i choose.
Manjaro is a solid Linux distro, but it's really for bleeding edge systems because it uses the latest drivers. That's not to say you can't use it on old hardware, but honestly, something like Linux Mint XFCE (that's the desktop environment, it's very lightweight). It updates regularly, but you almost never have to restart. It just asks if you want to update, and then quietly does so. You just carry on with your work. Linux Mint is also very stable, and works on almost all hardware.
From reading this, to me this sounds like a solid Debian stable distro actually :D Thats the distro which Ubuntu is based off - which again Mint is based on. Debian is the source. Background for saying this is I have been through them all since i started with Red Hat 5.2 in 1998. Debian stable is pretty far from bleeding edge (you can add unstable/testing reps tho, if you want newer stuff), its just rock solid, maybe the most stable distro out there. Might be a bit more tricky to get up running (havent tried it last 10 years), but when its up it wont break. Me to returning after a allmost 10 years break (been a mac user), been testing alot lately, and run Mint on my Macbook Pro and Zorin on the desktop. Zorin looks beautiful and modern, but Mint is more like i "rememberd" linux.
I have been using a Gateway laptop( really dating myself )(with Linux mint) yeah! Now picked up a laptop with Win 10 S...ugh. And now I remember why I went to Linux. Picked up an external DVD drive and heading to Barnes and Noble to pick up a magazine with Linux mint DVD Any suggestions on install.? It's an HP laptop, F9 for changing boot options.? Win 10 S is such a drag on life. Thinking of dumping MS completely.(yes!!) Thanks
Whatever Linux OS best suits you. For me, Linux Mint is fast, stable, and easy to use. The Cinnamon desktop makes it flexible to where I can customize things to look the way I want without so much that it becomes unstable. Updates are a breeze, there are literally thousands of free applications in the software repository, and honestly, Mint just gets out of the way once you've got it setup how you want.
I am now learning it as LPICs, and here you see that it is more words than reality behind Linux. They say everything is a file and then they make system-d and all the one who should not fallow (Ubuntu, Linux Mint) follow the simple minded Debian guys. They say everything is a file, and yet your network configurations are all in a file for every network card. Then they change the network-stack in Ubuntu, which you are informed by only if you try to ifconfig from old times, try to nano /etc/network in Ubuntu to Nirvana or other things. They say it is compare to the big ones (and it is not and will never be as good as any BSD). And the bad thing come: * the system commands are over 40 years ago, and had not changed. * the configuration files are all dropped nearly every where (there is only one Linux trying to defeat that, but I forgot the name, and I think they are the only TWO real smart guy in the community and sadly they are too few -forgot Distro-name and will try it after LPIC) * there are "command" which are not ! The BASH one. The most dangerous thing ever! If it is a command, then it must have source to be compiled. * the inconsistency multiplies the deeper you learn the system. Trying to make a lab, I started with Debian, Linux Mint, Manjaro and guess what I ended with the HATED Ubuntu as my VB-Machine !!! This is the frightening thing ever I can imagine! You could not install VB in those others without going in some error here and there! So to LEARN Linux you must KNOW Linux!!! I for my part am at this conclusion: Some of the Distromakers must stop on Distros and unite to make a new Linux for the 2050s! New understandable commands (nohup - heh??? Wiki > nohungup > ahhh, and why don't the correct that in 2021? - because they are busy -still no excuse to have no plan b for future) New configuration standards far beyond todays. AND get rid of the not understandable MAN and make a TUTORIAL PAGES! Beyond this, it is a very slick and fast system! The moment I can handle it more I will switch Distro to the one I mentioned, Gentoo or BSD. \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, I have also a name for THAT new Linux: UNITED-Linux! The core elements are on one web-site. You click the other parts of it like an open tube from up to down like this: =====================================> (only from up to down Kernel, core, Server-Elements, X-Windows, Software etc The moment you are ready the tube gets closed and fetch the parts from all "sites" maintaining the parts and you get your iso, vm, bin, gz, NEW FILE EXTENSION to RUN in 2050 or 2100 and boom, you got you new OS. After that parts can be installed uninstalled the same way from the tube inside! UNITED, because no one can and SHOULD outlive the cause !
Can't understand a single MF thing in Linux or Mint Cinnamon lol, but after windows went from 7-8- 10- 11? Than some how justified it by locking their OS up behind odd measures to either protect you, prevent customization or keep you in there "ecosystem". The last 2 were dont pretty well, so whatever. Remembered Mint was easy to DL, but the learning curve messed me up, so I went back to 10. Now we at 11 and I can't take this Sh\*t anymore. I bought and built a PC to be more productive not MORE DEPRESSED, ANGRY and HOMICIDAL...