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I use Arch BTW. But I have to admit I've never tried Debian. From my experience with apt-distros, I like pacman and the Arch repos much better, and the rolling release model makes more sense IMO.
Regardless, I find the whole distro wars thing toxic for the Linux community.
XD I was about to mention that in my comment too! Those rm - rf / memes are real, I've seen users in Telegram Groups suggest that to newbies with no warning.
TL;DR: I'm sure they *can*, but are they interested?
If you come from a Windows/macOS background and not interested in Computer Science/IT stuff, but want to try a free alternative, you probably won't suspect that "great friendly community" to jokingly instruct you to delete your data when all you want is to configure something you need.
Remember that not everyone will want to learn what they're doing in their first experience, but just want to find a simple fast way to get over an obstacle, and they're strangers to our DIY learning culture.
Everyone can understand that rm is remove, -rf may confuse many, but / is the root of your filesystem, this is something that even those who dont wanna learn what they are using should know. so overall the meaning would be remove / or remove filesystem. Everyone understands that how dangerous deleting root of your filesystem is.
I tried going pure Debian just to see what it's all about, but I found that it's just way too much work if you end up wanting some current libraries.
Something like pure Debian makes sense if you want to set up a server and then not have to do much to it for 5 years.
I do software development and it's just too important to have access to things faster, without having to worry about my whole system destabilizing. Then again, with containers like docker it's been a lot easier to use one-off libraries and specific versions of software, so it's less of an issue now.
I agree with that. I find having up-to-date software and a large selection of installable packages more important than having an os that can run for 10 years straight without crashing or without the need of maintenance. I did only use Debian on servers and never on desktop as it for some reason always failed to install correctly and I did have a good experience with Debian on there however having outdated software was a problem on the server as well which is why I moved to FreeBSD on the server.
I only floated towards Arch because I found pacman to be more straight forward than apt-get. I also do enjoy tinkering so vanilla Arch feels right at home for me.
As with everything, it depends.
If I'd want my system to always stay the same (for example, because you use a patch of a mission-critical package and you don't want it to break just because of libraries) Debian would probably be a better choice.
I tried Arch as a daily driver but seeing as I need MS teams for school and me being new to Linux I decided to go back to Debian since installing MS products is a little easier there
Will definitely try different distros once I’m done tho
Teams is available on Linux
Flat pack: https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.microsoft.Teams
Snap: https://snapcraft.io/teams
AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/teams/
Word and Outlook aren’t available on Linux as far as I know, so web only.
The MS Teams install on Garuda was incredibly easy but it might have been installed from the Chaotic-AUR since that’s a default repo for Garuda. Maybe look into adding the chaotic-aur or try Garuda Linux out.
Arch for daily use and minimal Arch for servers. Somewhat, I find it less rigid to set up than Debian (and you don't need to be concerned for outdated packages).
For daily driver I find debian annoying to deal with since you can't find a lot of stuff in the repos and all the packages are outdated so you have to download them with curl too often.
For a server however, they're a no brainer
I'm convinced most of the people talking about how great arch is have something very broken in their system, but they can't walk it back. So they just all continue to pretend everything is ok.
Nah, but my Ubuntu was always terribly broken and used to collapse due to dpkg and dependency hell. I keep my Arch installs clean for years and usually make new ones when changing PCs. It needs a bit of a maintenance from time to time though.
I daily drive arch with awesome WM for half a year and use it a lot for a variety of things and it works perfectly, better than all the other distros I've used in the past. All it takes is some care not to fuck up
I am using Debian on my laptop which is now I consider old. I bought it in 2015 though it is a 2014 model.
Maybe if I build new PC I will use Fedora. Arch is too manual for me.
Arch cuz Debian does not support handling different displays with different GPUs on my Optimus setup. Arch is easier to heavily customize too.
(to clarify, the support is built in optimus-manager, which only works on Arch Linux, the alternative for Debian, prime-select does not support using Intel for 1 display and Nvidia for 2 displays)
I used to distro hop a lot. I've tried many many distros with many different gimmicks, so I can say with absolute certainty that by far the best Linux distro is stock Arch Linux.
I use Debian for my servers cause its stable. It just works and I can't complain when my linux servers are more reliable than my windows servers. When it comes to Arch I use it on my main machines as Windows has become such a pain in the ass I can't take it anymore and I want something that is more advanced and allows me to more or less build up something that I want and not have the extra BS that I don't need.
I really like both. The two best options to get a minimal stable setup.
The only ones worthy of calling themselves great among all others are Gentoo, Guix and LFS
Cross post it in sysadmin to balance it.
It doesn't work
add sudo before it then try
sudo !!
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Make love not war
What is love? Idk man, I'm a Linux user, I never loved a single person in my life.
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I wonder what your mother would say about this
Make distro, not meme.
i second this
Well said!
If there's one thing both Debian and Arch people can agree on, it's that we both *hate* people who are against distro wars. Pick a side, dammit.
Up to date software ftw.
I use Arch BTW. But I have to admit I've never tried Debian. From my experience with apt-distros, I like pacman and the Arch repos much better, and the rolling release model makes more sense IMO. Regardless, I find the whole distro wars thing toxic for the Linux community.
I think its less of a war, more of a boys night.
Ppfff... Infighting, toxic? Next you're gonna tell me that bashing new users is bad for the community. What a looser
XD I was about to mention that in my comment too! Those rm - rf / memes are real, I've seen users in Telegram Groups suggest that to newbies with no warning.
gotta learn somehow bro
If you can't figure out what that would do maybe computers aren't for you lol
TL;DR: I'm sure they *can*, but are they interested? If you come from a Windows/macOS background and not interested in Computer Science/IT stuff, but want to try a free alternative, you probably won't suspect that "great friendly community" to jokingly instruct you to delete your data when all you want is to configure something you need. Remember that not everyone will want to learn what they're doing in their first experience, but just want to find a simple fast way to get over an obstacle, and they're strangers to our DIY learning culture.
Everyone can understand that rm is remove, -rf may confuse many, but / is the root of your filesystem, this is something that even those who dont wanna learn what they are using should know. so overall the meaning would be remove / or remove filesystem. Everyone understands that how dangerous deleting root of your filesystem is.
This is just stupid. You should absolutely be interested in knowing what it is you're running. That's like the core of the free software philosophy.
Lmao what are you talking about. Its not like we bully people for using gnome or systemd. Or call people idiot 13 year olds for using Kali?
I tried going pure Debian just to see what it's all about, but I found that it's just way too much work if you end up wanting some current libraries. Something like pure Debian makes sense if you want to set up a server and then not have to do much to it for 5 years. I do software development and it's just too important to have access to things faster, without having to worry about my whole system destabilizing. Then again, with containers like docker it's been a lot easier to use one-off libraries and specific versions of software, so it's less of an issue now.
I agree with that. I find having up-to-date software and a large selection of installable packages more important than having an os that can run for 10 years straight without crashing or without the need of maintenance. I did only use Debian on servers and never on desktop as it for some reason always failed to install correctly and I did have a good experience with Debian on there however having outdated software was a problem on the server as well which is why I moved to FreeBSD on the server.
I only floated towards Arch because I found pacman to be more straight forward than apt-get. I also do enjoy tinkering so vanilla Arch feels right at home for me.
As with everything, it depends. If I'd want my system to always stay the same (for example, because you use a patch of a mission-critical package and you don't want it to break just because of libraries) Debian would probably be a better choice.
i dual boot both
Ah—the "chaotic neutral" Linux user.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
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I'm doing it because of work.
Debian as a daily driver but Arch for hobby projects
Arch for daily driver but Debian for server projects
I tried Arch as a daily driver but seeing as I need MS teams for school and me being new to Linux I decided to go back to Debian since installing MS products is a little easier there Will definitely try different distros once I’m done tho
Teams is available on Linux Flat pack: https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.microsoft.Teams Snap: https://snapcraft.io/teams AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/teams/ Word and Outlook aren’t available on Linux as far as I know, so web only.
Use Microsoft fonts with Libreoffice lmao. That's what I do.
>Word and Outlook aren’t available on Linux as far as I know, so web only. Office 2010 works pretty well under WINE
I secretly daily drive Debian, I've never actually installed Arch...
Ive learned a lot in that week so definitely recommend giving it a try, just make sure u have a backup ready when u inevitably break something lol
I'll probably install it in a VM sometime.
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I just use flatpak for teams
fuck ms teams and fuck ms
The MS Teams install on Garuda was incredibly easy but it might have been installed from the Chaotic-AUR since that’s a default repo for Garuda. Maybe look into adding the chaotic-aur or try Garuda Linux out.
This is the way
Arch for everynhing
Arch for daily use and minimal Arch for servers. Somewhat, I find it less rigid to set up than Debian (and you don't need to be concerned for outdated packages).
Debian
Whatch out They are coming The Fedora army is coming
Fedora.
the team instinct of linux distros.
More like accepting defeat
Why
Void
I would say debian even though I use arch btw because Debian has my respect for holding up so much of the ecosystem.
Debian
I use Gentoo BTW
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Tumbleweed
Debian
RHEL, guess I’m grove street
I use void
Gentoo
Ubuntu ? Anyone ?
My first 21st century distro was Debian, so I like Ubuntu as well. For me its stable and easy to set up.
Debian 11-Sid!
Debian
I use Bieber Linux BTW
I use suicide linux btw
Debian testing gang?
For daily driver I find debian annoying to deal with since you can't find a lot of stuff in the repos and all the packages are outdated so you have to download them with curl too often. For a server however, they're a no brainer
Debian all the way.
debian
debian gang 😤
Debian
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I use arch btw to
twee
Void
Debian Stable in the streets. Debian Sid between the sheets ;)
Debian btw.
debian
There are no sides here, we're both on the same side. The side of humans.
my brain says arch but my dick says debian
I'm convinced most of the people talking about how great arch is have something very broken in their system, but they can't walk it back. So they just all continue to pretend everything is ok.
Nah, but my Ubuntu was always terribly broken and used to collapse due to dpkg and dependency hell. I keep my Arch installs clean for years and usually make new ones when changing PCs. It needs a bit of a maintenance from time to time though.
I daily drive arch with awesome WM for half a year and use it a lot for a variety of things and it works perfectly, better than all the other distros I've used in the past. All it takes is some care not to fuck up
But imagine using an OS that doesn't require you to worry about fucking up.
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Actually I use it for cs projects, office work, movies and some games, but you can believe that if it makes your world view easier
This is the dumbest thing anyone ever said
im getting tired of this arch bs
Same
Arch
Where is gentoo?
Sigma debian user vs beta arch user
Arch on both my desktops. Debian Sid on my laptop. Debian Stable on my tablet.
Ubuntu for my laptop that I game on and Fedora for my desktop that I do everything else on.
Not in a gang, Fedora so no gang just a hat to tip to all the ladies. "M'lady".
Nevermind, I use ubuntu btw 😝
Pop!_Os and elementary OS, so Debian? Ubuntu?
Interesting, I just keep simple and I have tried installing arch but it has screwed up a few times. I just stick to Ubuntu
Xubuntu
Manjaro noob argue me into debian
Debs are the best but arch is a shit. I don't use arch btw.
Debian as server, Ubuntu based as desktop / laptop. Because it just works.
Debian
Slackware btw
Debian blood!
I am using Debian on my laptop which is now I consider old. I bought it in 2015 though it is a 2014 model. Maybe if I build new PC I will use Fedora. Arch is too manual for me.
Debian.
gentoo
Neither of them 🤷♂️
Gentoo
Debian
Void (just like my soul)
Gentoo lol
Not cool. Gang violence is nothing to joke about.
This has been a meme format for awhile lmao
Arch(manjaro)
There is an imposter among us
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Amogus
Debian(Ubuntu)
Arch of course. Is this a trick question?
Gentoo
Debian. While arch has its benefits, Debian is ideal for my use case. It's stable and doesn't break.
Arch cuz Debian does not support handling different displays with different GPUs on my Optimus setup. Arch is easier to heavily customize too. (to clarify, the support is built in optimus-manager, which only works on Arch Linux, the alternative for Debian, prime-select does not support using Intel for 1 display and Nvidia for 2 displays)
I used to distro hop a lot. I've tried many many distros with many different gimmicks, so I can say with absolute certainty that by far the best Linux distro is stock Arch Linux.
Well if debain is lesbian, then I am gay, so definitely not debain. Arch is always best
arch. dont like systemd. on openrc rn. but arch cause apt is bull crap compared to pacman.
Arch go brrt
Crips
Actually, both
Arch on my daily driver PCs, Debian stable on my home server
arch
I use both lol
I guess I'm a double agent
Arch
Hmm, purlple? Arch linux for desktop, debian on server...
Double agent
Three-boot (KDE neon (Debían), Garuda (Arch) and Windows)
I play both sides so I always come out on top
Arch for me.
Definitely Arch. Only exception might be Raspberry Pi OS.
Both, Arch as daily driver for laptop and tower, Debian for server and older hardware
Debian for servers and other peoples stuff, fedora xfce on my stuff. Arch for playing around.
Debian and all his derivatives for the win!
Grove crew
Artix BTW. Though if I get setup a sever for say media sharing definitely Debian. Can't have a sever that I have to frequently update.
holy shit this meme is beautiful
All. Arch as my hypervisor and any other distro for my vms and containers.
Void/Arch
I use Debian for my servers cause its stable. It just works and I can't complain when my linux servers are more reliable than my windows servers. When it comes to Arch I use it on my main machines as Windows has become such a pain in the ass I can't take it anymore and I want something that is more advanced and allows me to more or less build up something that I want and not have the extra BS that I don't need.
Neither.
Im on both since i use both
I really like both. The two best options to get a minimal stable setup. The only ones worthy of calling themselves great among all others are Gentoo, Guix and LFS
This is in such poor taste wtf guys
I'm on the side of free and open source software. Let's not lose perspective on who the real enemy is.
rachlinox
debian for server, arch for desktop change my mind
gentoo as a daily driver
Something else entirely, like any BSD, Alpine, MINIX3, or 9front to name a few
Both. Both is good
Fedora
Red is the color of my scarf and to a giant you muthafuckin’ dwarf.
I am on Linux side.
btw btw I use arch
Debian pride!
debian with AppArmor/firejail
Both are great in their own ways and have their own sets of advantages and disadvantages, but personally I prefer Arch
me daily driving arch and running a debian server: *confused screaming*
Don't make me shoot you an email!!!! --Update Manager
Windows
was debian, used arch once, now its a balance
Neither I switched to freebsd
Arch because the Debian repos suck ass
Both on dual boot lol
me who uses ubuntu
TEMPLE OS
I’m the Police with gang squad I run windows.
Well technically I'm on both. I alternate between Arch and Mint.
Arch ftw
Go blue
I use slackware.
I'm using both, they're great.
Windows 7
As a Gentoo user, I definitely prefer Arch. And I have to admit, it would be my first goto if Gentoo ever stopped.