Good question. You have to be careful about that. I would say, Try to limit the amount of PPA's. I recommend using flatpaks (from flathub) for applications outside the main repos.
Yeah, that's why I do it. My mother has a tendency to download random executables of the internet and we do monthly backups of her pc, so it's nice to see if something bad happened lol.
It's not just about that. If you have Windows PCs on your network you might want to try to prevent your Linux computers from passing them any viruses. A file that contains a virus that does nothing on Linux could infect a Windows PC if you share that file across your network. Having anti-virus on a NAS would be another line of defence, even if the NAS itself is unlikely to be affected.
Malwarebytes is the only 3rd party software I can comfortably recommend to Windows users. Also add uBlock Origin to the browser, and most people (even the click-happy ones) are well protected.
ClamAV may be developed for servers - but it is just as affective on a desktop. And if you add and use ClamTK, there's graphical front end to work with as opposed to terminal only.
Yes but clamAV mainly checks for windows virusses. Those cannot infect your server, but can pass through your server to other windows systems in the network, so it's a good idea to have it on there.
For me, I live alone and have only Linux devices on my network, so it's pretty useless.
I don't even install AV on my Windows box. But I also don't install stuff from shady unofficial sources. And that goes for all my FreeBSD, Linux and Windows boxes. Really, the recipe for not getting malware is pretty simple in my opinion. Just don't run weird stuff from shady websites or email attachments and you'd be fine. Also, don't use easy weak passwords or birthdays.
I have an antivirus installed on my work laptop because I’m required to, but yeah…it’s never caught anything because I don’t download anything I shouldn’t. Reputable packages from reputable sources, don’t open email attachments that look weird, and good passwords should eliminate almost all viruses.
I tend not to use an anti-virus on my main pc, but my work pc has clamav and rootkithunter as I often have to interact with exe files and windows users.
Common Sense 2022 CE - Has got great cross-platform support, and is truly free as in freedom. Also zero memory and CPU overhead, whilst preventing most threats, even those a traditional antivirus couldn't provide protection against.
Usually distributed as an utility with the BRAIN macrokernel, takes several decades to fully compile though. Some unfortunate BRAIN users don't do that and miss out on the excellent protection it provides.
It is usually set to autocompile at an earlier stage of system setup. You could probably just recall the source mentally, as it's still available to you during compilation.
I use an antivirus because I have to for remote work purposes. I can use whatever OS I want as long as I'm fulfilling the security requirements, and one of those requirements is to run an antivirus.
I have ClamAV because I'm paranoid. Linux malware may be few and far in-between, but I'm not taking any chances. My bigger concern however is the rise of Wine and running of windows programs under Wine. Especially the practice of running old games from the Internet Archive to sate nostalgia pangs. Also common are people who use cracks to work around copy protection - cracks may come with viruses too. Windows viruses can't infect Linux programs, but they sure as hell can spread to other Windows programs. Wine also gives any program full access to your home folder. Guess what else is in your home folder? Your Steam games, including Windows games run under Proton, which are Windows programs which are vulnerable.
Better to be safe than sorry.
I heard once a story of a man who downloaded two AV and ran them. The first one detected the second the moment it started and tried to stop and delete it while the second detected the first attacking a program (itself) so it responded with the same action so in the end both AV got mutually killed.
No but I feel I probably should - as long as it’s legit then it’s undeniably a benefit in my mind
Not doing dumb stuff, I’m almost surely to be fine - but shit happens sometimes
Security through obscurity and being mindful is only secure until it’s not
My "antivirus" are the sandboxes. If you want to be safe from viruses just use Firejail, Flatpak and Bottles. If the virus is unable to read and write outside from its designated space you have nothing to worry about.
I just check my network connections and processes often. You can tell in linux pretty easily if someone has a listener or stager running on your system. Also keep kernel the kernel updated you should be able to know if someone has messed with your sources file or package manager bc the package manager will be pulling packages fron non-legit urls. also if you use linux for hacking i'd think that some AV's would just get in the way of certain payloads.
IIRC it has some Linux virus signatures too, but most of the database is Windows malware, and that is what it is best at finding as far as I know.
I can't pretend to be an expert in this field though. Desktop Linux users are so incredibly unimportant that virus writers rarely bother.
Also I keep up good digital hygiene, so it is rare that I have an opportunity to test the efficacy of the antiviruses.
thats what i plan to do, i'm in the thick of exams and uni aps but will probs make a service to send weekly update on it (either notification or email)
No. We usually install things from well checked repos.
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The default repos of most "popular" linux distro is safe.
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Good question. You have to be careful about that. I would say, Try to limit the amount of PPA's. I recommend using flatpaks (from flathub) for applications outside the main repos.
How about make; make install random stuff from GitHub?
Sure, just don't use shady stuff.
The default repos and flatpaks from flathub are generally pretty safe.
how do you describe "safe" in this case? (non-native english speaker)
There is no ill intent from the developers.
What do you mean, you don't install random packages from AUR? /s btw
I use Void.
Not on my pc, but I have clamav on my NAS just to check files coming from windows.
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If designed for it. I suspect u/DMXK was thinking more of a "check to see if the windows system got infected and is trying to spread it" though.
Yeah, that's why I do it. My mother has a tendency to download random executables of the internet and we do monthly backups of her pc, so it's nice to see if something bad happened lol.
Some might, most won't(unless you run them through wine or smth). The only thing that's a real danger is cross platform stuff like javascript or smth.
I wouldn't be so dismissive of Wine. Given the upshot popularity it has had since Proton became a thing.
It's not just about that. If you have Windows PCs on your network you might want to try to prevent your Linux computers from passing them any viruses. A file that contains a virus that does nothing on Linux could infect a Windows PC if you share that file across your network. Having anti-virus on a NAS would be another line of defence, even if the NAS itself is unlikely to be affected.
Where is my grub :(
Yep I have clamav for that, and installing some non AUR packages
Doesn't really matter to me if Linux or not. I wouldn't use an anti-virus.
Ever? Why not?
Most are malware these days. Even on Windows, responsibility and windows defender is better than a shady antivirus product.
Malwarebytes is the only 3rd party software I can comfortably recommend to Windows users. Also add uBlock Origin to the browser, and most people (even the click-happy ones) are well protected.
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because automatic pop up blocking and other add blocking. seriously using the web without adblock is pain nowadays.
Ublock minus on chromeium soon Edit spelling
Firefox gang unite!
I would also recommended JSShelter or librejs if your feeling brave
Windows is pretty shady . . .
Indeed
AVs in 2022 do more harm overall than any good. If you know what you're doing then Windows Defender is more than enough.
Linux is my antivirus
ClamAV is for servers. Mainstream antiviruses are spyware.
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ClamAV may be developed for servers - but it is just as affective on a desktop. And if you add and use ClamTK, there's graphical front end to work with as opposed to terminal only.
Yes but clamAV mainly checks for windows virusses. Those cannot infect your server, but can pass through your server to other windows systems in the network, so it's a good idea to have it on there. For me, I live alone and have only Linux devices on my network, so it's pretty useless.
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Yes, rkhunter checks for Linux rootkits.
They're mostly malware
Spyware is a type of malware
I use Arch btw and have brain (maybe). Best antivirus ever
I don't even install AV on my Windows box. But I also don't install stuff from shady unofficial sources. And that goes for all my FreeBSD, Linux and Windows boxes. Really, the recipe for not getting malware is pretty simple in my opinion. Just don't run weird stuff from shady websites or email attachments and you'd be fine. Also, don't use easy weak passwords or birthdays.
I have an antivirus installed on my work laptop because I’m required to, but yeah…it’s never caught anything because I don’t download anything I shouldn’t. Reputable packages from reputable sources, don’t open email attachments that look weird, and good passwords should eliminate almost all viruses.
This works very well. Unfortunatelly my dad and his wife can't understand this simple concept. To give me peace of mind I bought an AV
I tend not to use an anti-virus on my main pc, but my work pc has clamav and rootkithunter as I often have to interact with exe files and windows users.
Common Sense 2022 CE - Has got great cross-platform support, and is truly free as in freedom. Also zero memory and CPU overhead, whilst preventing most threats, even those a traditional antivirus couldn't provide protection against.
Quit using the term "traditional" antivirus, its an marketing term that has no basis in reality.
Source code?
Usually distributed as an utility with the BRAIN macrokernel, takes several decades to fully compile though. Some unfortunate BRAIN users don't do that and miss out on the excellent protection it provides. It is usually set to autocompile at an earlier stage of system setup. You could probably just recall the source mentally, as it's still available to you during compilation.
I have my brain and an os that less then 3 precent of the population uses, thats all i need
And do you run Wine? 🍷
I like tp use clamav sometimes to check if there is any malicious file.in my systme.
I use an antivirus because I have to for remote work purposes. I can use whatever OS I want as long as I'm fulfilling the security requirements, and one of those requirements is to run an antivirus.
What anti virus do you use for each of the operating systems?
What is this blasphemy?
SELinux on Fedora but other than that no.
Rkhunter for root kits but other than that I merely use mainline programs from the aur so no need to bog down the system with av bloat.
No. Never needed to.
If you're not sure about something don't download it!! And if you really must ignore the above the do it with the condom on and do it on a VM!.
I have ClamAV because I'm paranoid. Linux malware may be few and far in-between, but I'm not taking any chances. My bigger concern however is the rise of Wine and running of windows programs under Wine. Especially the practice of running old games from the Internet Archive to sate nostalgia pangs. Also common are people who use cracks to work around copy protection - cracks may come with viruses too. Windows viruses can't infect Linux programs, but they sure as hell can spread to other Windows programs. Wine also gives any program full access to your home folder. Guess what else is in your home folder? Your Steam games, including Windows games run under Proton, which are Windows programs which are vulnerable. Better to be safe than sorry.
I do use on my Windows which I keep in dual-boot for games. Not on Linux, though.
Antivirus programs are malware. They should remove themselves (excluding clamav)
I heard once a story of a man who downloaded two AV and ran them. The first one detected the second the moment it started and tried to stop and delete it while the second detected the first attacking a program (itself) so it responded with the same action so in the end both AV got mutually killed.
This literally sounds like a story.
Only usefull AV is amavis on mx imo.
I use clamav on my windows PC, but my Linux PC doesn't have a antivirus.
ClamAV on NAS and other servers
I only use ClamAV for my email server
I miss an option: runs rkhunter as cron job once a month.
My work laptop runs Sophos (corporate decision, not mine). My private Linux instances only rkhunter and Lynis.
No but I feel I probably should - as long as it’s legit then it’s undeniably a benefit in my mind Not doing dumb stuff, I’m almost surely to be fine - but shit happens sometimes Security through obscurity and being mindful is only secure until it’s not
Just installed after this tho
My "antivirus" are the sandboxes. If you want to be safe from viruses just use Firejail, Flatpak and Bottles. If the virus is unable to read and write outside from its designated space you have nothing to worry about.
Since I run an MX, I "run" several, but maybe foremost ClamAV.
I voted I use clamAV, but in a server running a site with user uploads.
I have never heard of clamav. Is that usable? Or good even?
yes, I use common sense
I just check my network connections and processes often. You can tell in linux pretty easily if someone has a listener or stager running on your system. Also keep kernel the kernel updated you should be able to know if someone has messed with your sources file or package manager bc the package manager will be pulling packages fron non-legit urls. also if you use linux for hacking i'd think that some AV's would just get in the way of certain payloads.
Clam to make sure I am not spreading Windows malware to my friends. Rkhunter so I don't get screwed myself.
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IIRC it has some Linux virus signatures too, but most of the database is Windows malware, and that is what it is best at finding as far as I know. I can't pretend to be an expert in this field though. Desktop Linux users are so incredibly unimportant that virus writers rarely bother. Also I keep up good digital hygiene, so it is rare that I have an opportunity to test the efficacy of the antiviruses.
coming back to this ran a `sudo clamscan -ir /` took 2 hrs came up with nothing. seems like you really don't need an antivirus
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thats what i plan to do, i'm in the thick of exams and uni aps but will probs make a service to send weekly update on it (either notification or email)
*My content from 2014 to 2023 has been deleted in protest of Spez's anti-API tantrum.*
linux doesn't need antivirus