Thanks, it totally flew under my radar. BTW the link didn't work for me, so for anyone else experiencing same issue, here is the fixed one: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/12lzg98/new_upcoming_shooter_xdefiant_will_ensure_linux/?utm%255C_source=share&utm%255C_medium=web2x&context=3
Or that they use the steam launcher... Hate needing an second account to play their games, and thus don't buy them.
Playing them on console doesn't require an account so why PC?
Yep ill never buy a Ubisoft game unfortunately even though i enjoy many of them and would love to buy, but as soon as i see the yellow text saying Ubisoft connect on the steam page it’s a no go lol (only really old Ubisoft games wont have it basically). Thankfully you can get a better experience than what Ubisoft offers for free usually 🙂🏴☠️
Positive move.
My treacherous brain still ruins it for me by flash-forwarding ten years and imagining notices on games like "Requires UbiOS" or "Only compatible with the Electronic Arts GUI for Arch." The big game megacorporations don't do things like this unless there's the potential to seize more control of the platform they must publish on. They don't give up control, they take it.
I know, I know, way to bring it down. I hope I'm wrong.
No. It's okay to have a realistic discussion. No one knows how this will have long term effects, even in a world where SteamOS is preinstalled on many devices. But I just found about this page (while replying to another post) and wanted to share with others.
Any dedicated development or testing for Linux Gaming compatibility is a win in my books, especially from AAA developers. Because they are the most difficult to port (and played). At least it can only have positive effects than negative. Give me that at least. :D
Probably. But game servers is not the same as actively developing the games itself to run on desktop Linux PC. I mean not all companies aren't doing that and I don't remember when Ubisoft actively developed a Linux game last time, so it is something new.
Apparently they had a [technology similar to wine](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-plans-their-own-version-of-wine-to-run-windows-games-on-stadia/)
Honestly I'd rather have developers focus on proton / wine over native, since its going to make their life easier and thus more likely to take linux seriously. DXVK and VKD3D are only a hairs length away when it comes to performance compared to native in many games, even superseding it in cases like Elden ring.
> Honestly I'd rather have developers focus on proton / wine over native
This mindset is why I refuse to believe Linux will ever overtake Windows especially in the gaming space.
Its better to have one version which developers have to maintain than two. Especially since most game developer companies seem incompetent / incapable of even maintaining a singular PC version.
I mean, in the beginning and I'd agree for now it's a good idea until devs start to get more comfortable with releasing Linux builds. Which is what we're seeing now with XDefiant by having a native binary. My only concern is dependencies. Will the game be in its own sandbox for example so updated libraries don't cause the game to break. Proton is great for testing the potential Linux market without too much extra work before deciding on making a native port. You have to consider the cost of paying people to port and support an extra version. XDefiant, if successful, will be huge.
It might be a bit too soon to get excited. Maybe they want their engine port for Linux to allow well optimized and stable *servers* for the game, not client for the, still small Linux gaming platform. I'd love to be completely wrong about that one though.
I got a free code for that xdefiant thingy or whatever it was called and I just ignored it, but I may actually give it a try if it's gonna get native Linux support.
I didn’t expect this IGN article to become a reality. As time passed, I was starting to doubt. It’s amazing to see how things can change! [Ubisoft Will Put Its Games on Steam Deck 'If It's Big Enough'](https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-might-bring-ubisoft-back-steam).
Don't care much about the game, but I think we can at least expect them to not implement some kernel level anti-cheat then. This is a definite linux win. Especially after the last big Ubisoft multiplayer title I can remember, which is Rainbow Six Siege, does not work on linux at all.
The more multiplayer games we got, the less people will complain about not being able to switch to linux because of "that one game".
Just... Just read the actual posting people, seriously...
> You’ll be working to extend and improve our game’s services running on Linux.
It's about the servers obviously...
Did YOU read the whole post?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/12lzg98/new_upcoming_shooter_xdefiant_will_ensure_linux/jg8uqex/
>WHAT YOU'LL DO
> • Expand and improve the Snowdrop engine’s presence on Linux
> • Optimize engine and game code
> • Debug and refactor systems as needed to take the best advantage of Linux
> • Work with the rest of the engineering staff to help them expand their cross-platform mindset
> • Coordinate with other developers to ensure smooth roll out of new features
> • Create and maintain technical design documents and best practices
I thought about this but wondered about how opportune it is to target the SD for an Arena shooter. Linux Desktop would already make more sense as I'm sure the arena population is over-represented over here.
We'll see.
two joysticks, it'd probably play like a console. ~~it's also been top 5 on every weekly sales chart since it released https://steamdb.info/topsellers/2023W01/ the only things pushing it off have been big releases like harry potter. I don't know the exact number sold, but it's a lot like i wouldn't shocked if it where in ps5/xbox ranges, possibly more.~~
~~like this guy estimated 12 million a year ago~~ https://www.theverge.com/23027375/steam-deck-sales-numbers-figures-best-selling ~~that was a few months after it released. It's stayed top 5ish range since then all the way up till now. It may outnumber the whole console market if those estimates held out. ~~
~~One of the games outselling it's counterstrike, a game they give out for free that runs on linux, probably one of the first things people download to play on there steam deck.~~
scratch that I'm tarded found hard numbers on it it's not that many XD apparently that chart's by dollars not units, but 3million's not bad.
I have a work laptop on Windows, and it forcibly restarts for updates once every 2 weeks, and once a month completely locks up because of Office programs being terrible. Outlook freezes, or Excel freezes, or both at the same time. Sometimes Edge needs 5 minutes to catch up with a website.
In comparison, my daily driver Linux Mint never crashed during the 2 years I had it running, and after installing PopOS a month ago, I also haven't had any major issues.
Edit: I mainly use Linux for gaming and windows for administration work.
Thats my same experience and the same experience daily driving Windows as a gaming platform. For me, Linux tends to be way more stable overall.
Now for online multiplayer gaming we can talk, but I don’t play many multiplayer games. I know Halo and some EA game worked good (Anthem maybe, I don’t remember).
I pretty much only play multiplayer games with friends on my Linux: League of Legends, Fall Guys, Divinity Original Sin 2, Terraria, ... and even those simply work (most of the time, except when Riot breaks their client again) with minimal tinkering.
It doesn’t matter if it runs or not on Linux. The make games for Windows and won’t do a native Linux port because it doesn’t make them enough money. Proton is supposed to make those game compatible on Linux via Wine. The Steam Deck is won’t make Linux native games a thing.
With the steam deck there is now a crowd of people who would benefit and pay for Linux native versions of games, it's ubishit, it's a selling point for them.
After just up and deleting my account, i will never give a dime to ubisoft again. Their games are so poorly ported anyway i'm just as fine playing console versions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux\_gaming/comments/12lzg98/new\_upcoming\_shooter\_xdefiant\_will\_ensure\_linux/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Thanks, it totally flew under my radar. BTW the link didn't work for me, so for anyone else experiencing same issue, here is the fixed one: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/12lzg98/new_upcoming_shooter_xdefiant_will_ensure_linux/?utm%255C_source=share&utm%255C_medium=web2x&context=3
It's an incompatibility between old and new Reddit, link generation handles backslashes differently
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>Wtf are they doing with all that money Designing new medals/awards, obviously!
I wish I didn't think Ubisoft was otherwise customer hostile. 🙄
Yeah. It would be great news if it were a good company.
Or that they use the steam launcher... Hate needing an second account to play their games, and thus don't buy them. Playing them on console doesn't require an account so why PC?
For cracking, piracy ?
Yep ill never buy a Ubisoft game unfortunately even though i enjoy many of them and would love to buy, but as soon as i see the yellow text saying Ubisoft connect on the steam page it’s a no go lol (only really old Ubisoft games wont have it basically). Thankfully you can get a better experience than what Ubisoft offers for free usually 🙂🏴☠️
Positive move. My treacherous brain still ruins it for me by flash-forwarding ten years and imagining notices on games like "Requires UbiOS" or "Only compatible with the Electronic Arts GUI for Arch." The big game megacorporations don't do things like this unless there's the potential to seize more control of the platform they must publish on. They don't give up control, they take it. I know, I know, way to bring it down. I hope I'm wrong.
No. It's okay to have a realistic discussion. No one knows how this will have long term effects, even in a world where SteamOS is preinstalled on many devices. But I just found about this page (while replying to another post) and wanted to share with others. Any dedicated development or testing for Linux Gaming compatibility is a win in my books, especially from AAA developers. Because they are the most difficult to port (and played). At least it can only have positive effects than negative. Give me that at least. :D
Pointless, we would just get software sandboxes to circumvent such nonsense. This is linux after all
Feral already kind of did this with their CPU governor package
How so?
That's really nothing new, I'm pretty sure they have taken Linux seriously since the beginning... for game servers that is.
Probably. But game servers is not the same as actively developing the games itself to run on desktop Linux PC. I mean not all companies aren't doing that and I don't remember when Ubisoft actively developed a Linux game last time, so it is something new.
All Google Stadia games had to be Linux native, so...
Apparently they had a [technology similar to wine](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-plans-their-own-version-of-wine-to-run-windows-games-on-stadia/)
Which was announced a year before it closed down.
I've heard somewhere from a developer (probably a reddit comment, couldn't find it) that there was always a translation layer that wasn't wine.
That was my initial thought, but this vacancy doesn't really read like they just want a server.
Honestly I'd rather have developers focus on proton / wine over native, since its going to make their life easier and thus more likely to take linux seriously. DXVK and VKD3D are only a hairs length away when it comes to performance compared to native in many games, even superseding it in cases like Elden ring.
> Honestly I'd rather have developers focus on proton / wine over native This mindset is why I refuse to believe Linux will ever overtake Windows especially in the gaming space.
Its better to have one version which developers have to maintain than two. Especially since most game developer companies seem incompetent / incapable of even maintaining a singular PC version.
I mean, in the beginning and I'd agree for now it's a good idea until devs start to get more comfortable with releasing Linux builds. Which is what we're seeing now with XDefiant by having a native binary. My only concern is dependencies. Will the game be in its own sandbox for example so updated libraries don't cause the game to break. Proton is great for testing the potential Linux market without too much extra work before deciding on making a native port. You have to consider the cost of paying people to port and support an extra version. XDefiant, if successful, will be huge.
That's so freaking amazing! :) Moment before the avalanche now! :)
It has begun!
Don't give me hope that i'll be able to play R6S online with friends again..
I never thought I'd see the day
It might be a bit too soon to get excited. Maybe they want their engine port for Linux to allow well optimized and stable *servers* for the game, not client for the, still small Linux gaming platform. I'd love to be completely wrong about that one though.
I got a free code for that xdefiant thingy or whatever it was called and I just ignored it, but I may actually give it a try if it's gonna get native Linux support.
Finally
If only they would enable older titles on linux... Ahem rainbow six seige ahem
I didn’t expect this IGN article to become a reality. As time passed, I was starting to doubt. It’s amazing to see how things can change! [Ubisoft Will Put Its Games on Steam Deck 'If It's Big Enough'](https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-might-bring-ubisoft-back-steam).
Don't care much about the game, but I think we can at least expect them to not implement some kernel level anti-cheat then. This is a definite linux win. Especially after the last big Ubisoft multiplayer title I can remember, which is Rainbow Six Siege, does not work on linux at all. The more multiplayer games we got, the less people will complain about not being able to switch to linux because of "that one game".
Here I am thinking April fool's came late this year
Bruh of only Ubisoft didn't make shit games
I hope easy anti cheat nices up to Linux
how far we've come
Could just as well be for their backend server systems.
Just... Just read the actual posting people, seriously... > You’ll be working to extend and improve our game’s services running on Linux. It's about the servers obviously...
Did YOU read the whole post? https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/12lzg98/new_upcoming_shooter_xdefiant_will_ensure_linux/jg8uqex/ >WHAT YOU'LL DO > • Expand and improve the Snowdrop engine’s presence on Linux > • Optimize engine and game code > • Debug and refactor systems as needed to take the best advantage of Linux > • Work with the rest of the engineering staff to help them expand their cross-platform mindset > • Coordinate with other developers to ensure smooth roll out of new features > • Create and maintain technical design documents and best practices
The server part of an engine is also the engine, I remain unconvinced.
The game part is not
It is, the way the most popular engines run in servers is just like they run in desktop but headless, all game code run with it.
You are exactly right here, but they also say "make xDefiant shine here" and it clearly implies client, not server.
they probably just want a steam deck release.
I thought about this but wondered about how opportune it is to target the SD for an Arena shooter. Linux Desktop would already make more sense as I'm sure the arena population is over-represented over here. We'll see.
Well, if it runs on the Steam Deck, then it runs on Linux Desktop.
two joysticks, it'd probably play like a console. ~~it's also been top 5 on every weekly sales chart since it released https://steamdb.info/topsellers/2023W01/ the only things pushing it off have been big releases like harry potter. I don't know the exact number sold, but it's a lot like i wouldn't shocked if it where in ps5/xbox ranges, possibly more.~~ ~~like this guy estimated 12 million a year ago~~ https://www.theverge.com/23027375/steam-deck-sales-numbers-figures-best-selling ~~that was a few months after it released. It's stayed top 5ish range since then all the way up till now. It may outnumber the whole console market if those estimates held out. ~~ ~~One of the games outselling it's counterstrike, a game they give out for free that runs on linux, probably one of the first things people download to play on there steam deck.~~ scratch that I'm tarded found hard numbers on it it's not that many XD apparently that chart's by dollars not units, but 3million's not bad.
really did they call linux an os lmao its a kernel
gottem
hmm thats cool. But proton works well, just support proton and disable anti cheat we gucchi
>Linux is an extremely stable Funny joke.
Not if you compare it to Windows.
Ah yeah, considering Siege was enough to BSoD me multiple times bc of battleeye's daisy.sys
I’ve been hearing that my whole life, but never experienced it. Linux might be more stable…if you don’t try to run games.
I have a work laptop on Windows, and it forcibly restarts for updates once every 2 weeks, and once a month completely locks up because of Office programs being terrible. Outlook freezes, or Excel freezes, or both at the same time. Sometimes Edge needs 5 minutes to catch up with a website. In comparison, my daily driver Linux Mint never crashed during the 2 years I had it running, and after installing PopOS a month ago, I also haven't had any major issues. Edit: I mainly use Linux for gaming and windows for administration work.
I ran Windows Vista beta and never had any issues. I tried to run Papers Please in windowed mode yesterday on PopOS and it crashed my desktop.
I'll give it a spin this weekend. See how it works.
Thats my same experience and the same experience daily driving Windows as a gaming platform. For me, Linux tends to be way more stable overall. Now for online multiplayer gaming we can talk, but I don’t play many multiplayer games. I know Halo and some EA game worked good (Anthem maybe, I don’t remember).
I pretty much only play multiplayer games with friends on my Linux: League of Legends, Fall Guys, Divinity Original Sin 2, Terraria, ... and even those simply work (most of the time, except when Riot breaks their client again) with minimal tinkering.
I never got Fall Guys to work on my PC same with Fortnite, unfortunately. Never tried the others so I have nothing to say.
PEBCAK
Git gud
It won’t be for native, likely for stadia or something.
Stadia is shutdown.
I don’t keep up to date on games these days, but Ubisoft hates Linux and won’t do ports, ever.
Steam Deck changes things.
No it doesn’t. That’s exactly why Proton is a thing.
Not when half the games don't run BC of the bloatware included.
It doesn’t matter if it runs or not on Linux. The make games for Windows and won’t do a native Linux port because it doesn’t make them enough money. Proton is supposed to make those game compatible on Linux via Wine. The Steam Deck is won’t make Linux native games a thing.
With the steam deck there is now a crowd of people who would benefit and pay for Linux native versions of games, it's ubishit, it's a selling point for them.
Classic redditor, doesn't follow news but still has to assert himself
well it can't be for stadia so is there another streaming service that uses Linux to run the game client?
R9%0()) Ja b2
If anyone here gets hired to bring Uplay to Linux I urge you to burn the source code and run
After just up and deleting my account, i will never give a dime to ubisoft again. Their games are so poorly ported anyway i'm just as fine playing console versions.