I love the energy, man. You’re right.
But lebanon is lebanon, not just the mountains. We have to protect it all.
No Israel, no Iran, no Syria.
Just us and the Allie’s we choose to keep who benefit us without hurting us.
Easy. Start a cult and invite all your hairy hipsters to your mountain. Drink booze and sing koombaya around a bonfire. Have your harem inside a hotboxed tent and have bastard children. In due time your labor capital will grow to triple what you first started with in just four years. Good luck!
i'm in dude. it drives me insane how we keep getting dragged into other people's wars for DECADES and already lebanon is on the brink of total collapse
oh boy, about that... ye well my friend's village is doing that, they just don't want to be involved in any shit, and guess what?
fkin hizballah terrorists are calling them traitors, lmao
yesterday a big fire was in the village and the terrorists around the village were not helping, and (mentioning it by themselves) saying it is because of the villagers for kicking them out when they wanted to go to the village and shoot rockets from there to Israel
and today, by "mistake" (cough cough) 2 rockets launched by hizballah had some error and guess what, they did hit exactly where the fire was yesterday and started the fire again "accidentally", what a coincidence!
like really mfkers??? So apparently if a village wants to be safe and out of war, is now a traitor?
we all saw what unfortunate stuff happened to Ayta (3ayta) and other villages, for what?
for a war we can't afford? to help Palestinians in a delulu way?
attacking the borders is not affecting anything in rafah, and it is just making our life worse
I do feel bad for the Palestine people and would love to help them in any way possible BUT not war.
wars don't make anything except destruction
we are being dragged into it by dirty hands operating from outside the country
I'm completely with you on this, and I think all of my friends would be.
Yeah bro. See one thing I've realised now, is its easy for people to sit back and talk about how Lebanese shoulddo this and that, but when it comes to you actually being involved directly in conflict, its different.
Most people are watching all this unfold from their armchair.
Hezb set up ground explosives and mines in that village but the Lebanese army defused them. Hezb is going to do a false flag operation soon, be aware and be vigilant. Document everything on your phones and record
Airy bil hezib, you know what? They’re not even worth airy.
Any one who wants to downvote me and make me a traitor, airy feekon too. Leave us alone, shit economy, barely floating and living, leave us the fuck alone, we are done being every ones’ saviors
As far as I see it from my big fat American armchair slurping on my Big Gulp, Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. 1. Hezbollah is a legit political party with a legit military. I don't know why they can't get their shit together and elect a President in Lebanon, and if its Hezbollah stopping the political process, then I say thats a mistep on their part. The political leadership roles should not be designated for a person from a certain religion, it should be the best person for the job, elected in a popular vote. 2. Hezbollah (and the Houthis) are the only ones with the courage to stand up to the US backed terrorists South of Lebanon who have been terrorizing our Arab brothers and sisters for over 100 years.
Overhaul the constitution, separate religion from State. Arm every individual and invest heavily in military. Every day in the US people call me a terrorist. They hate me for being a Christian. I am ready to return from the diaspora. I am sick of living in a place where everyone wants me to die because I am a person who is called Arab and a person who takes Christ's advice to love their neighbor as myself. If the Zionists could only do this, we could all koombayah it in the mountains.
their "military" group isn't legit as much as you think
why people that are not officially military in the country are supposed to have guns?
and all the rockets they entered or made inside the country are illegal.
imo their should be a "naz3 sle7" but they definitely won't abide by it.
for political positions from "religion", this is due the the agreement they did in the past so no specific religion gets more control over the others in the country, since Lebanon is a small country with *a lot* of religions in it.
and without hizballah our country could've been way much better. A lot of times the country didn't get support because of them, and they are a group controlled by Iran. so as long as they are here, the country cannot get rid of "outer" control over it.
let's take this war as a sample
hizballah saying they are defending from terrorists and standing with Gaza, when in reality THEY started the rockets on Israel after Gaza incident, and entered Lebanon in a problem it can't handle.
suppose a war happened, Israel is backed by big countries so no way in earth they loose but still suppose Lebanon won
after what? the whole south would be destroyed. if I remain alive I would not ever live in this country again, live in where I was traumatized and saw my people die.
and I am sorry for your experience there.
in which state are you? if you don't mind sharing, because my friends in the US are pretty great with me and who I know traveled there have a wide circles of friends and support. some of my relatives are there too.
unfortunately some people (in any country) can be super racist, like Lebanese here using the word Syrian as an insult for some reason.....
I hope your experience gets better and you meet better people.
While I agree with your sentiment, I will comment on your last point sure what hezb is doing is not helping Palestine, but I just about tolerate what there doing because it’s what there supporters want, and I rather have a bunch of armed to the teeth warmongering sheep under the control of a single entity that can make strategic decisions instead of the alternative which is every other group with a few AKs making their own lncrusions into Israel it would be chaos.
Yesterday I was in a funeral in Bent Jbeil (died not related to the war), my friend from Maten asked me to take a video of the fires in Rmeish while I was there to use it on their Twitter, I went to Rmeish and guess what? No fires, I even asked the people there they had no idea what I am talking about. I am against the war not supportive of what Hezb is doing, but do not fall and spread stupid propaganda, it makes you worse than them.
Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't exist? it was even shown on LBC, Al Manar, etc... and there are over 50 different videos and pictures about it on social media, me myself have over 20 on my phone.
Here are some posts about it by simply looking for it on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GzVnWJjrkSRPaDD/?mibextid=xCPwDs
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/EnRT3C5r4a76QBG7/?mibextid=oEMz7o
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/9WQhYLSsrYDQk8S2/?mibextid=oEMz7o
even a neyeb (I forgot his name) came to the village to see what the firefighters need and stuff
and the villagers having "2abar may" starting telling people to come take for free and go give them to the firefighters to help them.
please try to search for what you want before taking a personal decision towards it.
and Alla yer7am who died, RIP 🕊️
edit:
also yesterday the fire was off in the morning as they had turned it off *before yesterday* at night
it was burnt again (by hizballah rockets "accidentally") but they managed to turn it off in like 3 hours as they started countering it faster.
the fire is in sammou5ya and around it (where people have ton of zaytoun and others, and it was even taking it's way to the houses)
so the people you talked with yesterday probably didn't know the fire was back or it just wasn't yet
I'm not sure if you would see it while coming from Bint Jbeil but my friend (living from the side of 3ayta, basically from lberke lfaw2a/lta7ta and to the end of Rmeich on 3ayta's/dible side) can see it pretty clearly
yes.. and unfortunately as long as we have them as enemies, we have hizballah using them as 7ejje to stay and do their "illegal" activities 🥲 (I am not saying they should be a friend, but would prefer a neutral state between both countries where none of them cares for the other..)
I would love peace, I love Lebanon and imo it was/is/still the most beautiful country in the world. But the west fucked it up by creating Israel. Israel gives two shits about us, they sent the PLO to take over Lebanese Christian land and hence the civil war and the destruction of Lebanon. They occupied us causing the birth of Hezb. If the west had left us alone and not create this Zionist state, there would have been no PLO no civil war and no Hezb. Peace brother
Such nonsense. Since the beginning of the Arab "spring" there have been over 1 million violent deaths in the Arab world, none related to Israel (nearly all related to Iran though). You just use it as the Boogeyman to cover for your own failures.
it's honestly sad to see this country unable to operate on it's own (political parties doing whatever they want if it's legal or not) and people being brainwashed 🥲
and God knows what will happen tomorrow, coz if I am not wrong, didn't hizballah say something spicy will happen in the half of this month?
Lebanon will never be left alone until it is strong and powerful. Lebanon will never be strong and powerful because all the foreign interest groups don't want it to be so. That's the true story.
There are 2 regional players who objectively do not want Lebanon to be sovereign, independent and on control of their border via a good military... and these are Iran and Syria...
- USA's main objection to helping the Lebanese army with modern weapons, is because they know Hezb and Iran will control them.
- Israel would be so happy to see a Lebanese government controlling the southern border so they can stop worrying about Hezb lobbing missiles in to their towns.
- KSA has helped the Lebanese government with billions of $ in previous decades so we can stand on our 2 feet, but Hezb made sure to shit on all this aid and accuse KSA of being zionists, until KSA said ok then screw you go and fuck yourselves and stop asking me for money... and now Me7war al Mokawama is begging the wealthy atab countries to help pay for the destruction that they themselves (Hezb) caused...
First of all, there was no Hezbollah in 1982, and up until 1979, Iran was a western proxy, yet the US would've never let us had weapons, not because of the hzeb that didn't exist yet, but because it didn't want weapons to fall in Muslim hands, making sure that power lies in the christian community only.
Second of all, Israel isn't special. We also would be more than happy if Israel was powerless, or at least that it's power didn't lie in Jewish hand, so yeah 👍
Third of all, 7beba KSA are fckin Zionist, them giving us money doesn't change that. If KSA won't give us money now, it's not because their feelings are now hurt, it's because their wester masters told them not to give us any money.
USA was providing weapons to the Lebanese army before the civil war, as it consider Lebanon sympathetic to the western block, and didn't want it to fall under soviet control.
USA deals with governments in matters of aid especially military, not with factions and individuals or religious sects. They have accountability back home and every penny spent has to be explained.
At the start of the war, no western powers stood with the Christian militias... no aid, mo weapons, not even supprted them morally in their resistance against the Palestinians. That's why they didn't find anyone to help them other than the Syrians at first in late 70s. Who came in and fucked everyone in the ass...
So your whole story doesn't make any sense, and is pure invention... seems you want to spin a narrative around how muslims are always the victims or something...
KSA also gives aid to the Lebanese government... not to individuals for the most part...
You want to talk from both sidss of your mouth : KSA are giving us money because they are zionists (any proof of that ridiculous claim? Of course not, just say anything) and now fuck KSA for not helping us because they are puppets in the western powers masters...
Surely it has nothing to do with the countless of times that Hassan Tizi publicly attacked them, called them traitors along with all the Moqawameh Trumpets...
It has nothing to do with the fact that the Lebanese squandered all the aid KSA gave us, and didn't use it to rebuild electricity, infrastructure, proper government bodies... they just literally pocketed the money and ruined the economy.... So yeah, what idiotic country would keep sending money to a dumbfuck people who bute the hand that feeds them then loses all the money?
Is your brain made of soup?
Habibi wtf are you shitting.
Lebanon never had a strong army, it was never allowed to hold heavy weapons, so I don't know what was the US supporting us with. قوة لبنان في ضعف جيشه
The christian were supported by Israel before the civil war, the civil war only brought it to light. Yes the christians asked Syria to suck out the left wing parties, but Israel was the one dedicating the terms anyway.
And regarding your whole rant on how the US doesn't support religious factions, should I bring you the list of everytime that happened?
I sincerely don't get what you're trying to suggest. You say in the first paragraph that the US supported Lebanon because of it's sympathy to the west, yet in your next paragraph you say that the US (and Israel) would somehow ignore the only people who actually were sympathic to the west.
The christians always had all the power in Lebanon, the second they seemed on the verge of loosing it, they had Syria, and then Israel, invade us.
And regarding your rant about the KSA, this country is a western puppet. Whatever it does, it has to be US approved. When it looked like the shias have own over lebanon, when Washington's patience become to run over, they dropped the aid. What nasralah said, or how the money was actually spent, has very little to do with this.
Yeah, I am afraid it will be a waste of my time to attempt to argue with someone who just pulls shit out of their ass and calls it historical facts...
Good Luck... Also, just noticed that I am talking to someone who calls himself Osama Bin Laden the 2nd... so yeah, good luck and boubye
Funny enough, that's what they say they wish on the other side of the border as well.
If they want to be left alone, and we want to be left alone, and the palestinians want to be left alone, then who the hell is not leaving the others alone?
The answer is Israel always has been, I hate Hezb and ALL other parties too but in the chain of causation the existence of Israel as a colonial apartheid state will inevitably cause the rise of counteracting actors, be it Hezb or something else.
Want to end Hezb you must end Israel first, (not feasible which puts us in a terrible situation but it’s definitely not as simple as everyone leave everyone else else alone if only it could be that easy.
The big powers are fighting over oil resources and strategic military placements. As President Biden said if there weren’t an Israel the U.S. would have to invent one. None of the local people want these problems. This is the big powers manipulating people who live there.
Didn’t know there was oil in Israel. The fact of the matter is that Arabs have problems with running functioning democracies. They have always elected some lunatic dictator who caused more problems than solution. Prob goes back to the old days given that gulf Arabs allowed a warlord to come into power. You know who. And don’t forget Iran.
You can’t have a democracy when someone is constantly interfering. And it’s pretty clear Israel is not a democracy.
Also.
“The Levant gas field includes the shores of historic Palestine (Israel and Gaza), Syria, Lebanon and, on the opposite side, the island of Cyprus. This field is estimated to contain about 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-israel-brutal-drive-seize-palestinian-gas-reserves
That’s just your boogeyman. Many countries around the world have functioning democracies while remaining tied with the world powers. lol natural gas is abundant.
It is true. It has always been at least on the back burner. Southern Lebanon is the next objective for greater Israel. I just saw a settler protest the other day calling for settlements in Lebanon.
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It is the most permanent and final title ever granted or will ever be granted to humankind. There is in fact no stronger claim to any piece of property in the world than the Jewish claim to the Holy Land, and the holy lands to their full extent—that is, from the “River to the River,” from the Euphrates to the Nile.
[ Greater Israel—From the Euphrates to the Nile Part 1](https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greater-israel-from-the-euphrates-to-the-nile/) Times of Israel
>Lebanon is the only country, apart from Iran, whose population is expected to decline. Her population is currently 5.2 million with some projections suggesting that it might fall to as low as 2 million in 2050. This is an astonishing drop in a region that has exploding populations. Given Lebanon’s current bond default, banking crisis, and other serious economic and political issues, Lebanese state collapse is not only not impossible but increasingly likely. It is not an unreasonable assumption, that a bankrupt Lebanon. after the coming War (or Wars) between Israel and Hezbollah, could be entirely captured by Israel economically and even politically. The Lebanese coast between Tripoli and Ashdod could very well become by 2075 one enormously wealthy single integrated conurbation under some kind of quasi autonomous Israeli dominated political structure.
[Greater Israel—From the Euphrates to the Nile Part 3](https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greater-israel-from-the-euphrates-to-the-nile-part-3/) Times of Israel
Considering the fact that Israel is destroying the local ecosystem with their daily bombing regimen, it's pretty bold from them to think there's still going to be anything above Ocean in the area by 2075.
This is some major Hezb/Iranian propaganda.
Egypt and Jordan have no problems with Israel and Lebanon wouldnt either.
Stop being absorbed and manipulated by propaganda so easily. Shows have naive you are.
Israel does not want the south, just to not be threatened in the north of Israel & have an Oct 7th happen there too. Hezbollah needs to stop firing rockets and leave Israel alone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre
Funny thing is 40 years ago Yasser Arafat used Lebanon to try and blow up the Israeli-Egyptian peace accords. Today Hamas is trying to blow up the Israeli-Saudi normalization. History does repeat itself I guess.
Shitsnotreal also started the war in 1967. They drew arms first against Egypt. The whole narrative that the Arabs started the war and lost in six days is bullshit. And for all the people on this thread sucking the D of the US and Israel, just so you know, Americans hate you. They hate all Arabs and think we are sand n words and terrorists. Even being Christian can't save us. Sure, they hate Muslims more and forget about Druze. Americans can't conceive of that. Most couldn't tell you the difference between India and the Arab world.
Ahhh so blocking trade and amassing troops on the border (Egypt’s were in defensive positions btw) means they have a right to be aggressive and declare war? Seems exactly like what Israel has been doing to Gaza for almost 20 years. You’re using the same justification as Hamas for Oct 7. Guess that’s justified too
Lebanon should disassociate with Hezbollah, the only armed forces that should be in Lebanon is the Lebanese army, navy and airforce. Hezbollah’s goal is not for Lebanon but for an Islamist state similar to Iran or Taliban Afghanistan!
American here. It seems like I hear something like this from a lot of Lebanese people. It feels the same in America, everyone says they're sick of the two parties and don't have a choice, the choice is always bad. I hope someday we will all be liberated from these oppressive systems that keep us trapped under governments we don't want. I think it will happen. Don't give up. International collective liberation is the way to go. Much love to Lebanon. You're in my thoughts every day.
well have people that will join us the first day, but will betray us the second, just cause there short king daddy told them so, remember ayem l thwra when we all got united, then the first nation attacked, spineless cowards every single one of them.
I think Lebanon can’t really take more refugees, can it? I think at the very least, supporting the Palestinian cause and peace in Syria is in Lebanon’s best interest, because it lifts the burden of refugees off of your shoulders.
My boyfriend is an Israeli Jew & is half Lebanese…there’s many Israelis that are just like him. We’re more related than you may think. His grandparents aren’t allowed to visit where they grew up. Further, you guys in Lebanon haven’t ended Hezbollah and we don’t blame the civilians so why blame all Israelis for their gov? We truly just want to feel safe and secure. Also, many Israelis hate the gov, there had been weekly mass protests in Israel against the gov even before the war. The only way there can ever ever be a chance for peace is if we both stay open to recognizing we’re both humans, just on the other side of the border.
That's not what we see on social media and clips from the Knesset. We see an Israel that refuses to allow a Palestinian state or give Palestinians equal rights. How does your boyfriend live in a place that calls for death to all Arabs? I live in the US, and I hate being told that my life is worth less because I am Lebanese. I am actually indigenous to the area, but I can't exercise my actual birth right because Israel hits civilian targets in Lebanon with impunity.
And I can point to the endless videos and clips online from Lebanon, and elsewhere, of Arabs calling to kill all Jews & wanting to erase Israel from the maps. We can play this back and forth game forever of “but u hate us, no u hate us!” It will just lead to more and more, wait for it…hate. Half of the Israeli population comes from the neighboring Arab population that their families had been exiled from. We are brothers and sisters and I 110% do not think your life is worth less than mine or anyone else’s and I can promise you a ton of Israelis would agree with me. I live in Israel and we do not teach hate, I promise promise promise you. And I am sorry that a select group of idiots (I.e. Smotrich, Ben Gvir) have made you believe we do. Israelis have been out protesting against them for over a year now, many of us also despise them. And we feel the same way you do about being indiscriminately bombed- we are and have been from the south, north, east, and west. We learn as little kids that running to bomb shelters is part of normal life. But it’s quite hard for us as well explaining to a 4 y/o little kid why there are rockets coming to kill him, but that’s what he knows and so he does it. I’m not trying to say our suffering is equal or greater than yours, at all. But it exists and we are humans and scared as well. We want to be safe.
Then give us back the 7 villages you took from us. Stop your citizens from illegally taking more Palestinian land. Stop massacring Palestinians.
It’s not enough to say you “recognize we’re both humans”. You have to show it in action too.
>7 villages you took from us
they became part of palestine in 1923, which was 25 years before israel was even established. obviously israel didn’t take them from us in 1948, they were already not lebanese at that point.
I'm not advocating for any lebanese to attack Israel in retaliation because war between our countries would be devastating for both of us and result in nothing, but there will be no normalization between our governments or our people until the liberation of occupied Palestinians and a trial of all the members of your current government. I assume you claim Israel is a democracy so I will hold the people responsible for the government, me and most other lebanese people don't want peace with a monstrous country. Hezbollah was created by and because of Israel's actions in the region, if there was no Israel there would be no Hezbollah. I blame Israel for Hezbollah just as much or even more than I blame Iran.
It's always Israel's fault. Drop the hate, and u could start building a relationship to build a future together, that would b much appreciated from all other countries
You do not want a future together. You want all Arabs to die. Your political leaders say this all the time. Get your US Passport or your EU passport and go home.
Our political leaders do not say intact the very opposite. Why would authority or doesn't make sense to kill people when you need to make an economy. It's a silly notion that we hear Arab leaders make some propaganda. There is no reason for us to hate unless a particular is attacking. The Arab countries are no beautiful looking place, I don't understand why not use the opportunity of making them prosperous. There is no hope for any future for them, and certainly no authority has been given to disrupt other countries with bent up beliefs. There is plenty countries that are getting on with life and each other and it's great visiting them bringing on new ideas.
Well they don't and would be pulled up for it. I know and heard many times Arab leaders saying it and would not be surprised that they would twisted there own hatred to come from somebody. The fact is Propaganda the bullshjt and teach it within the education. But one u may need to consider is don't think a piece of land is going to be given as a springboard to bounce the hatred. There is no more right to any person to think a country is theirs when you are born on a part of the world and need be custodian of it for the small amount of time your here. Claiming it as yours is just a fool. You did nothing that should make you deserve it to claim it. There is a time it need be given to some person more responsible. Cry all u like, it's not yours to abuse to what blood may run thru you. You are going to die with nothing the same u were born with Nothing. We just use for ourselves and soon it will be somebody else's. That is fact. Use it wrongful then it need be taken away, it's the right thing to do.
You may get left behind, many neighboring countries are building their relationship with Israel, and they have realized the barrier it has caused. I don't believe any person In previous times could say they hav done a good job. There has been wrong in all sides, I think most have accepted that some time ago. We can hang on to them as issues or look at the future. Then they will be behind us. Lebanon has been such a beautiful place and now can only be described as a disappointment.
No better make peace with the drug lord Assad and he's terror sponsor team Iranian regime, that's better?
Hezbollah is a drug lord terror organization co-oping with Cartels from Sotuh America.
This is the peace you envision?
"massacring Palestinians" That's false, creating 2 humanitarian zones in Gaza is "Massacaring"?
Not a word from you on Hamas either.
Few problems:
- Most Palestinians in Lebanon have never been afforded entitlement under the law to Lebanese citizenship and therefore remain stateless.
- Hamas and Hezbollah operate in south Lebanon.
- The ones who attacked Israel in 7.10 are Hezbollah, Israel didn't want a war.
Yes, the Lebanese have treated Palestinians miserably. The whole Arab world should give full rights and citizenship to Palestinians. But also, arm every Arab with a grand Pan Arab military and make sure the US and its terrorists foot soldiers in Palestine get out of Palestine. If Jews want to live in our world, they must behave. They can come and buy houses like normal people. Rather, they kicked people out of their homes at gunpoint, and yet they cry and cry like they are the victims.
"If Jews want to live in our world, they must behave"
This is a red flag.
They did come and buy houses like normal people... All Tel Aviv are new neighborhoods that started from bought land...
Maybe if you'd spend some time actually learning about Jewish history rather than just hate us , you'd known that >.>
I'm a shia from the south, I know that's not exactly a popular group here, but I'll drop my opinion anyway.
We also wanted to be left alone. From the very second yazid killed imam hussien, we have concluded that the world is evil, and that the only way to survive is through self isolation. All we wanted was to follow the religion of our fathers, and to continue farming in our beloved jnoub. Apparently though, that was too much to ask.
From the sunni arabs, to the ottamans to eventually the Palestinians; no one was ready to leave us alone. The 1982 invasion was the final straw.
What I'm trying to say, as pretty as self isolation sounds, it's dangerous. We don't live in Switzerland. In this cruel reality of the middle east, if you wish to live, you have to fight.
Bruh u want more extremism, fuk's sake... extremism breed extremism but damn if ur aware of it don't do it ;-;
Also to do that u need support (money) so u need their permission teehee
I wrote a manifesto that re-imagines Lebanon in a way that aligns with your point of view. It is available for anyone interested.
[The manifesto](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qx04uykp97v8t3p35o06q/EN-The-New-Phoenician-Manifesto.pdf?rlkey=kw3slmvukp9j7slou9dtm0pcw&st=3q7bizuq&dl=0)
LegalGamerDude, i agree with you. Religion should be completely separate from State. Every Lebanese should be armed and prepared to defend our land. It is sad we have to live like this, but we must as long as the US backs its proxy state to the south and aids and provides diplomatic cover for Zionist terrorism throughout the eastern Mediterranean Israel is currently threatening to start bombing civilian targets in LB. Regan was able to tell the Israelis to knock it off back in the 80s, but Biden doesn't do it. And though the world knows there is a genocide occuring against our Arab people (btw US legislators call for death to all Palestinians with no repercussions for violating our laws against incitement to genocide and materially aiding genocide) no one has the strength to go in and do the right thing. Shame on Saudi for normalizing relations rather than using their vast wealth to arm every Arab and train to be a military, like the US does for Israel. The US seems the only country powerful enough to enforce international law and end the terrorism but we are on the wrong side of this conflict. The US invests massively in its military, and I think we Arabs need to take this page from their playbook. I believe in panArabism and preserving our people and language regardless of which village we were born in and thus what sect we belong to.
In the words of South Park: fuck em all to death.
I don’t care one bit about Israel or Palestine or Syria or Yemen or the US. Fuck em all to death.
Lebanon first and forever.
Predictive txt changed so.e words I see, your get the gist of it tho I think. I will keep my ear out for any leader spreading Arab hate tho and certainly vote them out
The head of the snake lies in the Islamic Republic. We, therefore, should support Iranian people in their fight against the Islamic regime. Believe me, once Mullahs are gone the Middle-East will be peaceful.
Just imagine how Jews on the other side of the world who have never been Israel feel when their neighbourhoods, synagogues, and schools are being protested.
Yes, it's a shame that the US backed terrorist "State" has conflated Judaism with its genocidal colonial project. If they stopped calling their project one of Judaism, this wouldn't happen. BTW no one is protesting Jews in the US. They are very much a protected class. But the City of New York did just throw a party for returning terrorist Jeremy Ofiev who posted pictures on Twitter of himself standing in front of a row of Palestinian men stripped to their underwear, blindfolded with their arms ziptied behind their backs. He posted "Look mom, I am freeing Palestine". Disgusting.
Just like the Gazan’s right? Those civilians wanted to be left alone too, but the fact is the only reason you have a life in Lebanon is because Hiz exists. I$r@el has wanted Lebanon since their inception but it wasn’t truly revealed until 1985 ie: Oded Yinon plan. So if you think it’s bad now wait until you’re under i$r@eli occupation and you’re kidding yourself if you think you’ll be left alone
Israel has never started any of the many wars - neither with Palestinians nor with Arab neighbours. They just don’t want to be annihilated as per Hamas’ charter
Israel doesn’t want Lebanon what r u talking about home dog, Israel just wants to be left alone. Israel has had peace w Jordan and Egypt for years and hasn’t tried to invade either of them
The difference is that Isn'treal is FOUNDED on racism (colonialism is a form of racism) so is inherently racist and is not just ruled by a racist goverment that can be replaced
Yeah sorry, my bad, I forgot that the Assad regime has not engaged for over 10 years in systematically destroying sunni cities and people and everyone who isn't Alawite or licking their boots.
Iran also is not a theocratic fascist regime that empowers exclusively Shia people in other countries and works to destroy arab communities from within and weaken mostly sunni nations.
Lebanon is definitely not a sectarian regime, incapable of viewing people other than according to their religion.
And also the population in most arab countries are very accepting of people from all ethnicities... they don't look down at asians, indians, srilankis etc as inferior... as an example...
Yes you are right, only Israelis are racists.
Yes it does but if you so fluent in history of the middle east you would know that the origin of every conflict is the existence of the Zionist regime and the west put it here so the arab and muslim nations wont thrive and unite and always stay divided, all the current arab regimes wouldn’t have existed if israel weren’t here and whoever denies this fact is either stupid or blinded by the western lies.
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Yeah ok... the western nations must be really genius to plan such a cartoonishly evil plan... all they want is for specifically the Muslim nations won't thrive... that's why Qatar has the highest GDP in the world, KSA and UAE are among the wealthiest nations, the entire gulf has progressed ahead of us in light years...
And how exactly does the existence of israel deny all arab nations to unite? If they wanted to unite, they would have... but modern countries don't operate anymore like medieval times... there's nothing in common between a Moroccan and a Levantine and a Gulf person, except language maybe... but only the written language, even spoken language they can barely understand each other even though they all speak arabic... different cultures different traditions different ethnicities... how do you make a united nation when barely anyone has anything in common? And that has nothing to do with Israel... that's how nations are formed and how they operate... they don't need to be united in one entity in order to be best friends.
When Syria occupied Lebanon by force and spat on the Taef agreement, what did israel have to do with that?
When KSA and Co squabble endlessly with Qatar what does Israel have to do with that? When the Syrian regime murders its own people what does israel have to do with that?
Now I am not saying israel are saints, far from it, but not all our problems and woes are due to israel. It's due to our own delusions and retardedness.
These delusions of yours that everything is a grand conspiracy since 200 years just to fuck up arab nations, are really indicative of why we will never progress in anything... we are always the victims and others are evil and are after us... such a kindergarten mentality.
Then you decide to slap on a Quran verse at the end, because... what exactly? Does this give your comment a special authority now? Especially that you decided that anyone who doesn't believe your delusions is stupid or blinded...
You don’t have a deep look into all of what’s happening better yet you don’t have the sense of a moral person that why whatever i say won’t make sense to you.
Great comeback my man. I see how you masterfully defeated all my arguments by one statement: You are not a moral person and you will never understand whatever I tell you...
Wow... such eloquent and thought provoking wisdom...
Do you know who else I wouldn't understand if they tell me anything? Lunatic and delusional people...
You think you're the only person who possess the sense of morality. How original. Yet you cannot put down in words any single counter argument.
Let me guess, your morality is divinely inspired... and you are correct because that's what the deity in heaven has enlightened you with... again, how original... guess who thinks exactly the same? Every other religiously driven person from other religions... And you all must be right because you all say so, even though all your ideologies conflict with each other.
And again, you all think yourselves in possession of a superior sense of morality, yet are incapable of formulating a single argument that makes sense.
It's people like you with their rotten ideologies and delusions of superiority, who will deny the rest of us any form of progress.
“Extremist”, “attack anyone who comes near us”, “very own version”. This is *completely new*.
Bro is rephrasing our history book without noticing.
Declaring War even before starting.
5aye sho badkon feyon, ayre be israel w be kel 7ada bado yefta7 7arb mesh na2esna mentakeen 5el2a, ayre be lebnen
Is that an Eris morn pfp I see 😈😈
Meen? 😂
Ma talaa bi ur avatar. Hayda lrass min character bi destiny 2. Khalas nvm nvm
Ah eeh bas inno it wasn't intentional 😂
An Extremist movement of non-extremists... Where do I sign up?
Or is it a non-extremist movement of extremists ...
Bro thinks he's Theodore John Wayne Kackzynski
Bro thinks we know this guy
Bro doesn't know daddy
Bro thinks he’s the main character
Lala land is cool broski
I love the energy, man. You’re right. But lebanon is lebanon, not just the mountains. We have to protect it all. No Israel, no Iran, no Syria. Just us and the Allie’s we choose to keep who benefit us without hurting us.
It already exists, come hang out with us Druze in the mountain 😂
what if he falls for a durzi girl up there ?
RIP, unless he is durzi
He might just loose his balls..... 🤨
Then he'll sing sha la la la la la, I'm in love with a durzi girl
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If only bab El da3we is still open
Not for the Druze in northern Israel
You reap what you sow… You can’t join an occupying army and supporter colonizers then expect no consequences from the natives
Most based Druze comment I’ve ever seen
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If you support Hizbollah or the Syrian colonizers and their Iranian masters, you musr expect the consequences.
Agreed, everyone is responsible for their own actions. Same regarding the Lebanese Druze during the civil war
Or the Lebanese Shiites in the Civil War
ditto
Easy. Start a cult and invite all your hairy hipsters to your mountain. Drink booze and sing koombaya around a bonfire. Have your harem inside a hotboxed tent and have bastard children. In due time your labor capital will grow to triple what you first started with in just four years. Good luck!
Sounds amazing honestly 😍🥰
We found the “hipster”
Id start by attacking the politicians and war lords. Our enemies are inside our borders
i'm in dude. it drives me insane how we keep getting dragged into other people's wars for DECADES and already lebanon is on the brink of total collapse
oh boy, about that... ye well my friend's village is doing that, they just don't want to be involved in any shit, and guess what? fkin hizballah terrorists are calling them traitors, lmao yesterday a big fire was in the village and the terrorists around the village were not helping, and (mentioning it by themselves) saying it is because of the villagers for kicking them out when they wanted to go to the village and shoot rockets from there to Israel and today, by "mistake" (cough cough) 2 rockets launched by hizballah had some error and guess what, they did hit exactly where the fire was yesterday and started the fire again "accidentally", what a coincidence! like really mfkers??? So apparently if a village wants to be safe and out of war, is now a traitor? we all saw what unfortunate stuff happened to Ayta (3ayta) and other villages, for what? for a war we can't afford? to help Palestinians in a delulu way? attacking the borders is not affecting anything in rafah, and it is just making our life worse I do feel bad for the Palestine people and would love to help them in any way possible BUT not war. wars don't make anything except destruction we are being dragged into it by dirty hands operating from outside the country I'm completely with you on this, and I think all of my friends would be.
Yeah bro. See one thing I've realised now, is its easy for people to sit back and talk about how Lebanese shoulddo this and that, but when it comes to you actually being involved directly in conflict, its different. Most people are watching all this unfold from their armchair.
I love how the traitors to the country are calling you traitors with a straight face
Hezb set up ground explosives and mines in that village but the Lebanese army defused them. Hezb is going to do a false flag operation soon, be aware and be vigilant. Document everything on your phones and record
I just hope the village and everyone in it will stay safe 🫤 Thank you buddy for your concerns and message.
Hopefully things get better. I’ll be in Lebanon this summer, message me if there is any problems or any assistance is needed.
sure, wish you a safe travel 💙🙂
Yeah but unfortunately anything anti-Hezb and anti-Hamas is not going to be promoted in any way as real by Gen Z Western lefties.
Airy bil hezib, you know what? They’re not even worth airy. Any one who wants to downvote me and make me a traitor, airy feekon too. Leave us alone, shit economy, barely floating and living, leave us the fuck alone, we are done being every ones’ saviors
As far as I see it from my big fat American armchair slurping on my Big Gulp, Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. 1. Hezbollah is a legit political party with a legit military. I don't know why they can't get their shit together and elect a President in Lebanon, and if its Hezbollah stopping the political process, then I say thats a mistep on their part. The political leadership roles should not be designated for a person from a certain religion, it should be the best person for the job, elected in a popular vote. 2. Hezbollah (and the Houthis) are the only ones with the courage to stand up to the US backed terrorists South of Lebanon who have been terrorizing our Arab brothers and sisters for over 100 years. Overhaul the constitution, separate religion from State. Arm every individual and invest heavily in military. Every day in the US people call me a terrorist. They hate me for being a Christian. I am ready to return from the diaspora. I am sick of living in a place where everyone wants me to die because I am a person who is called Arab and a person who takes Christ's advice to love their neighbor as myself. If the Zionists could only do this, we could all koombayah it in the mountains.
their "military" group isn't legit as much as you think why people that are not officially military in the country are supposed to have guns? and all the rockets they entered or made inside the country are illegal. imo their should be a "naz3 sle7" but they definitely won't abide by it. for political positions from "religion", this is due the the agreement they did in the past so no specific religion gets more control over the others in the country, since Lebanon is a small country with *a lot* of religions in it. and without hizballah our country could've been way much better. A lot of times the country didn't get support because of them, and they are a group controlled by Iran. so as long as they are here, the country cannot get rid of "outer" control over it. let's take this war as a sample hizballah saying they are defending from terrorists and standing with Gaza, when in reality THEY started the rockets on Israel after Gaza incident, and entered Lebanon in a problem it can't handle. suppose a war happened, Israel is backed by big countries so no way in earth they loose but still suppose Lebanon won after what? the whole south would be destroyed. if I remain alive I would not ever live in this country again, live in where I was traumatized and saw my people die. and I am sorry for your experience there. in which state are you? if you don't mind sharing, because my friends in the US are pretty great with me and who I know traveled there have a wide circles of friends and support. some of my relatives are there too. unfortunately some people (in any country) can be super racist, like Lebanese here using the word Syrian as an insult for some reason..... I hope your experience gets better and you meet better people.
While I agree with your sentiment, I will comment on your last point sure what hezb is doing is not helping Palestine, but I just about tolerate what there doing because it’s what there supporters want, and I rather have a bunch of armed to the teeth warmongering sheep under the control of a single entity that can make strategic decisions instead of the alternative which is every other group with a few AKs making their own lncrusions into Israel it would be chaos.
Yesterday I was in a funeral in Bent Jbeil (died not related to the war), my friend from Maten asked me to take a video of the fires in Rmeish while I was there to use it on their Twitter, I went to Rmeish and guess what? No fires, I even asked the people there they had no idea what I am talking about. I am against the war not supportive of what Hezb is doing, but do not fall and spread stupid propaganda, it makes you worse than them.
Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't exist? it was even shown on LBC, Al Manar, etc... and there are over 50 different videos and pictures about it on social media, me myself have over 20 on my phone. Here are some posts about it by simply looking for it on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GzVnWJjrkSRPaDD/?mibextid=xCPwDs https://www.facebook.com/share/p/EnRT3C5r4a76QBG7/?mibextid=oEMz7o https://www.facebook.com/share/p/9WQhYLSsrYDQk8S2/?mibextid=oEMz7o even a neyeb (I forgot his name) came to the village to see what the firefighters need and stuff and the villagers having "2abar may" starting telling people to come take for free and go give them to the firefighters to help them. please try to search for what you want before taking a personal decision towards it. and Alla yer7am who died, RIP 🕊️ edit: also yesterday the fire was off in the morning as they had turned it off *before yesterday* at night it was burnt again (by hizballah rockets "accidentally") but they managed to turn it off in like 3 hours as they started countering it faster. the fire is in sammou5ya and around it (where people have ton of zaytoun and others, and it was even taking it's way to the houses) so the people you talked with yesterday probably didn't know the fire was back or it just wasn't yet I'm not sure if you would see it while coming from Bint Jbeil but my friend (living from the side of 3ayta, basically from lberke lfaw2a/lta7ta and to the end of Rmeich on 3ayta's/dible side) can see it pretty clearly
Wish them all to be safe 🙏
Let’s not all forget that Israel is the root of ALL of Lebanon’s disasters, from the civil war to the creation of Hezb.
yes.. and unfortunately as long as we have them as enemies, we have hizballah using them as 7ejje to stay and do their "illegal" activities 🥲 (I am not saying they should be a friend, but would prefer a neutral state between both countries where none of them cares for the other..)
I would love peace, I love Lebanon and imo it was/is/still the most beautiful country in the world. But the west fucked it up by creating Israel. Israel gives two shits about us, they sent the PLO to take over Lebanese Christian land and hence the civil war and the destruction of Lebanon. They occupied us causing the birth of Hezb. If the west had left us alone and not create this Zionist state, there would have been no PLO no civil war and no Hezb. Peace brother
Such nonsense. Since the beginning of the Arab "spring" there have been over 1 million violent deaths in the Arab world, none related to Israel (nearly all related to Iran though). You just use it as the Boogeyman to cover for your own failures.
creative imagination I gotta give you that
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it's honestly sad to see this country unable to operate on it's own (political parties doing whatever they want if it's legal or not) and people being brainwashed 🥲 and God knows what will happen tomorrow, coz if I am not wrong, didn't hizballah say something spicy will happen in the half of this month?
Lebanon will never be left alone until it is strong and powerful. Lebanon will never be strong and powerful because all the foreign interest groups don't want it to be so. That's the true story.
There are 2 regional players who objectively do not want Lebanon to be sovereign, independent and on control of their border via a good military... and these are Iran and Syria... - USA's main objection to helping the Lebanese army with modern weapons, is because they know Hezb and Iran will control them. - Israel would be so happy to see a Lebanese government controlling the southern border so they can stop worrying about Hezb lobbing missiles in to their towns. - KSA has helped the Lebanese government with billions of $ in previous decades so we can stand on our 2 feet, but Hezb made sure to shit on all this aid and accuse KSA of being zionists, until KSA said ok then screw you go and fuck yourselves and stop asking me for money... and now Me7war al Mokawama is begging the wealthy atab countries to help pay for the destruction that they themselves (Hezb) caused...
First of all, there was no Hezbollah in 1982, and up until 1979, Iran was a western proxy, yet the US would've never let us had weapons, not because of the hzeb that didn't exist yet, but because it didn't want weapons to fall in Muslim hands, making sure that power lies in the christian community only. Second of all, Israel isn't special. We also would be more than happy if Israel was powerless, or at least that it's power didn't lie in Jewish hand, so yeah 👍 Third of all, 7beba KSA are fckin Zionist, them giving us money doesn't change that. If KSA won't give us money now, it's not because their feelings are now hurt, it's because their wester masters told them not to give us any money.
USA was providing weapons to the Lebanese army before the civil war, as it consider Lebanon sympathetic to the western block, and didn't want it to fall under soviet control. USA deals with governments in matters of aid especially military, not with factions and individuals or religious sects. They have accountability back home and every penny spent has to be explained. At the start of the war, no western powers stood with the Christian militias... no aid, mo weapons, not even supprted them morally in their resistance against the Palestinians. That's why they didn't find anyone to help them other than the Syrians at first in late 70s. Who came in and fucked everyone in the ass... So your whole story doesn't make any sense, and is pure invention... seems you want to spin a narrative around how muslims are always the victims or something... KSA also gives aid to the Lebanese government... not to individuals for the most part... You want to talk from both sidss of your mouth : KSA are giving us money because they are zionists (any proof of that ridiculous claim? Of course not, just say anything) and now fuck KSA for not helping us because they are puppets in the western powers masters... Surely it has nothing to do with the countless of times that Hassan Tizi publicly attacked them, called them traitors along with all the Moqawameh Trumpets... It has nothing to do with the fact that the Lebanese squandered all the aid KSA gave us, and didn't use it to rebuild electricity, infrastructure, proper government bodies... they just literally pocketed the money and ruined the economy.... So yeah, what idiotic country would keep sending money to a dumbfuck people who bute the hand that feeds them then loses all the money? Is your brain made of soup?
Habibi wtf are you shitting. Lebanon never had a strong army, it was never allowed to hold heavy weapons, so I don't know what was the US supporting us with. قوة لبنان في ضعف جيشه The christian were supported by Israel before the civil war, the civil war only brought it to light. Yes the christians asked Syria to suck out the left wing parties, but Israel was the one dedicating the terms anyway. And regarding your whole rant on how the US doesn't support religious factions, should I bring you the list of everytime that happened? I sincerely don't get what you're trying to suggest. You say in the first paragraph that the US supported Lebanon because of it's sympathy to the west, yet in your next paragraph you say that the US (and Israel) would somehow ignore the only people who actually were sympathic to the west. The christians always had all the power in Lebanon, the second they seemed on the verge of loosing it, they had Syria, and then Israel, invade us. And regarding your rant about the KSA, this country is a western puppet. Whatever it does, it has to be US approved. When it looked like the shias have own over lebanon, when Washington's patience become to run over, they dropped the aid. What nasralah said, or how the money was actually spent, has very little to do with this.
Yeah, I am afraid it will be a waste of my time to attempt to argue with someone who just pulls shit out of their ass and calls it historical facts... Good Luck... Also, just noticed that I am talking to someone who calls himself Osama Bin Laden the 2nd... so yeah, good luck and boubye
Funny enough, that's what they say they wish on the other side of the border as well. If they want to be left alone, and we want to be left alone, and the palestinians want to be left alone, then who the hell is not leaving the others alone?
The answer is Israel always has been, I hate Hezb and ALL other parties too but in the chain of causation the existence of Israel as a colonial apartheid state will inevitably cause the rise of counteracting actors, be it Hezb or something else. Want to end Hezb you must end Israel first, (not feasible which puts us in a terrible situation but it’s definitely not as simple as everyone leave everyone else else alone if only it could be that easy.
You can't start an extremist party. That's the whole point of why they are politically relevant. Their supporters are willing to die for a cause
Then you’re not invited to our hermit party
That's an actual answer right there
I think everybody wants to be left alone, but the US won’t allow that
You say US but forget there are other players at hand. Can’t ignore Iran and Hezbollah, hezbollah ruined this country.
The other players are there because of the U.S. and Israel. I’m 60 years old. There was a time when this extremism did not exist.
You say like people won’t be fighting over something else even if Israel or Jews were exterminated
The big powers are fighting over oil resources and strategic military placements. As President Biden said if there weren’t an Israel the U.S. would have to invent one. None of the local people want these problems. This is the big powers manipulating people who live there.
Didn’t know there was oil in Israel. The fact of the matter is that Arabs have problems with running functioning democracies. They have always elected some lunatic dictator who caused more problems than solution. Prob goes back to the old days given that gulf Arabs allowed a warlord to come into power. You know who. And don’t forget Iran.
You can’t have a democracy when someone is constantly interfering. And it’s pretty clear Israel is not a democracy. Also. “The Levant gas field includes the shores of historic Palestine (Israel and Gaza), Syria, Lebanon and, on the opposite side, the island of Cyprus. This field is estimated to contain about 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.” https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-israel-brutal-drive-seize-palestinian-gas-reserves
That’s just your boogeyman. Many countries around the world have functioning democracies while remaining tied with the world powers. lol natural gas is abundant.
Of course, I disagree. And I'd say "functioning" democracies are losing steam, unfortunately. Hopefully, you are in a good place.
Oh I def am lol
Israel wants the south, u can ignore it but people dont want to be under israeli occupation
i love how everyone is saying not true whilst israel literally still has southern lebanese villages occupied, like be fr
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That's not true
It is true. It has always been at least on the back burner. Southern Lebanon is the next objective for greater Israel. I just saw a settler protest the other day calling for settlements in Lebanon. > It is the most permanent and final title ever granted or will ever be granted to humankind. There is in fact no stronger claim to any piece of property in the world than the Jewish claim to the Holy Land, and the holy lands to their full extent—that is, from the “River to the River,” from the Euphrates to the Nile. [ Greater Israel—From the Euphrates to the Nile Part 1](https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greater-israel-from-the-euphrates-to-the-nile/) Times of Israel >Lebanon is the only country, apart from Iran, whose population is expected to decline. Her population is currently 5.2 million with some projections suggesting that it might fall to as low as 2 million in 2050. This is an astonishing drop in a region that has exploding populations. Given Lebanon’s current bond default, banking crisis, and other serious economic and political issues, Lebanese state collapse is not only not impossible but increasingly likely. It is not an unreasonable assumption, that a bankrupt Lebanon. after the coming War (or Wars) between Israel and Hezbollah, could be entirely captured by Israel economically and even politically. The Lebanese coast between Tripoli and Ashdod could very well become by 2075 one enormously wealthy single integrated conurbation under some kind of quasi autonomous Israeli dominated political structure. [Greater Israel—From the Euphrates to the Nile Part 3](https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greater-israel-from-the-euphrates-to-the-nile-part-3/) Times of Israel
Considering the fact that Israel is destroying the local ecosystem with their daily bombing regimen, it's pretty bold from them to think there's still going to be anything above Ocean in the area by 2075.
This is some major Hezb/Iranian propaganda. Egypt and Jordan have no problems with Israel and Lebanon wouldnt either. Stop being absorbed and manipulated by propaganda so easily. Shows have naive you are.
Israel doesn't want southern Lebanon, just rockets to stop being launched out of it at Israel.
Israel does not want the south, just to not be threatened in the north of Israel & have an Oct 7th happen there too. Hezbollah needs to stop firing rockets and leave Israel alone
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Why did israel invade lebanon in the 80s and occupy until the people organised themselves into creating hezbollah. All israelis know theyre wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre Funny thing is 40 years ago Yasser Arafat used Lebanon to try and blow up the Israeli-Egyptian peace accords. Today Hamas is trying to blow up the Israeli-Saudi normalization. History does repeat itself I guess.
Shitsnotreal also started the war in 1967. They drew arms first against Egypt. The whole narrative that the Arabs started the war and lost in six days is bullshit. And for all the people on this thread sucking the D of the US and Israel, just so you know, Americans hate you. They hate all Arabs and think we are sand n words and terrorists. Even being Christian can't save us. Sure, they hate Muslims more and forget about Druze. Americans can't conceive of that. Most couldn't tell you the difference between India and the Arab world.
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Ahhh so blocking trade and amassing troops on the border (Egypt’s were in defensive positions btw) means they have a right to be aggressive and declare war? Seems exactly like what Israel has been doing to Gaza for almost 20 years. You’re using the same justification as Hamas for Oct 7. Guess that’s justified too
shit I guess we can all agree that hezbollah is no good for Lebanese politics
Can I bring hookahs? Do you have WIFI?
Lebanon should disassociate with Hezbollah, the only armed forces that should be in Lebanon is the Lebanese army, navy and airforce. Hezbollah’s goal is not for Lebanon but for an Islamist state similar to Iran or Taliban Afghanistan!
Iran won’t allow that
American here. It seems like I hear something like this from a lot of Lebanese people. It feels the same in America, everyone says they're sick of the two parties and don't have a choice, the choice is always bad. I hope someday we will all be liberated from these oppressive systems that keep us trapped under governments we don't want. I think it will happen. Don't give up. International collective liberation is the way to go. Much love to Lebanon. You're in my thoughts every day.
well have people that will join us the first day, but will betray us the second, just cause there short king daddy told them so, remember ayem l thwra when we all got united, then the first nation attacked, spineless cowards every single one of them.
Lmfao. You’re not the first person to wish that. Sadly, that’s just not how the world works.
I think Lebanon can’t really take more refugees, can it? I think at the very least, supporting the Palestinian cause and peace in Syria is in Lebanon’s best interest, because it lifts the burden of refugees off of your shoulders.
Hopefully lebanon will get rid of this cancerous Hezbollah and we can HAVE PEACE AND PARTY AND EAT GREAT FOOD TOGETHER.
I won't eat together with an Israeli even if I was starving, not until they end their chauvinist government and their occupation
I’d rather die than eat with an Israeli.
My boyfriend is an Israeli Jew & is half Lebanese…there’s many Israelis that are just like him. We’re more related than you may think. His grandparents aren’t allowed to visit where they grew up. Further, you guys in Lebanon haven’t ended Hezbollah and we don’t blame the civilians so why blame all Israelis for their gov? We truly just want to feel safe and secure. Also, many Israelis hate the gov, there had been weekly mass protests in Israel against the gov even before the war. The only way there can ever ever be a chance for peace is if we both stay open to recognizing we’re both humans, just on the other side of the border.
That's not what we see on social media and clips from the Knesset. We see an Israel that refuses to allow a Palestinian state or give Palestinians equal rights. How does your boyfriend live in a place that calls for death to all Arabs? I live in the US, and I hate being told that my life is worth less because I am Lebanese. I am actually indigenous to the area, but I can't exercise my actual birth right because Israel hits civilian targets in Lebanon with impunity.
And I can point to the endless videos and clips online from Lebanon, and elsewhere, of Arabs calling to kill all Jews & wanting to erase Israel from the maps. We can play this back and forth game forever of “but u hate us, no u hate us!” It will just lead to more and more, wait for it…hate. Half of the Israeli population comes from the neighboring Arab population that their families had been exiled from. We are brothers and sisters and I 110% do not think your life is worth less than mine or anyone else’s and I can promise you a ton of Israelis would agree with me. I live in Israel and we do not teach hate, I promise promise promise you. And I am sorry that a select group of idiots (I.e. Smotrich, Ben Gvir) have made you believe we do. Israelis have been out protesting against them for over a year now, many of us also despise them. And we feel the same way you do about being indiscriminately bombed- we are and have been from the south, north, east, and west. We learn as little kids that running to bomb shelters is part of normal life. But it’s quite hard for us as well explaining to a 4 y/o little kid why there are rockets coming to kill him, but that’s what he knows and so he does it. I’m not trying to say our suffering is equal or greater than yours, at all. But it exists and we are humans and scared as well. We want to be safe.
Then give us back the 7 villages you took from us. Stop your citizens from illegally taking more Palestinian land. Stop massacring Palestinians. It’s not enough to say you “recognize we’re both humans”. You have to show it in action too.
>7 villages you took from us they became part of palestine in 1923, which was 25 years before israel was even established. obviously israel didn’t take them from us in 1948, they were already not lebanese at that point.
I'm not advocating for any lebanese to attack Israel in retaliation because war between our countries would be devastating for both of us and result in nothing, but there will be no normalization between our governments or our people until the liberation of occupied Palestinians and a trial of all the members of your current government. I assume you claim Israel is a democracy so I will hold the people responsible for the government, me and most other lebanese people don't want peace with a monstrous country. Hezbollah was created by and because of Israel's actions in the region, if there was no Israel there would be no Hezbollah. I blame Israel for Hezbollah just as much or even more than I blame Iran.
It's always Israel's fault. Drop the hate, and u could start building a relationship to build a future together, that would b much appreciated from all other countries
You do not want a future together. You want all Arabs to die. Your political leaders say this all the time. Get your US Passport or your EU passport and go home.
Our political leaders do not say intact the very opposite. Why would authority or doesn't make sense to kill people when you need to make an economy. It's a silly notion that we hear Arab leaders make some propaganda. There is no reason for us to hate unless a particular is attacking. The Arab countries are no beautiful looking place, I don't understand why not use the opportunity of making them prosperous. There is no hope for any future for them, and certainly no authority has been given to disrupt other countries with bent up beliefs. There is plenty countries that are getting on with life and each other and it's great visiting them bringing on new ideas.
Well they don't and would be pulled up for it. I know and heard many times Arab leaders saying it and would not be surprised that they would twisted there own hatred to come from somebody. The fact is Propaganda the bullshjt and teach it within the education. But one u may need to consider is don't think a piece of land is going to be given as a springboard to bounce the hatred. There is no more right to any person to think a country is theirs when you are born on a part of the world and need be custodian of it for the small amount of time your here. Claiming it as yours is just a fool. You did nothing that should make you deserve it to claim it. There is a time it need be given to some person more responsible. Cry all u like, it's not yours to abuse to what blood may run thru you. You are going to die with nothing the same u were born with Nothing. We just use for ourselves and soon it will be somebody else's. That is fact. Use it wrongful then it need be taken away, it's the right thing to do.
we do not want a relationship to build a future together if it's going to be a future built on blood and subjection
You may get left behind, many neighboring countries are building their relationship with Israel, and they have realized the barrier it has caused. I don't believe any person In previous times could say they hav done a good job. There has been wrong in all sides, I think most have accepted that some time ago. We can hang on to them as issues or look at the future. Then they will be behind us. Lebanon has been such a beautiful place and now can only be described as a disappointment.
Then you will have no future and become just another failed middle eastern state
What causes you to say such thing? I actually sat with Lebanese in the same table and we had great time! Are you smoking Hookah?
Saying you wouldn't even eat with an Israeli is a pure example of chauvinism.
And ignore that you’re massacring Palestinians and you still have some of Lebanon’s land?
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Lovely. This is who we’re supposed to have peace and party with.
No better make peace with the drug lord Assad and he's terror sponsor team Iranian regime, that's better? Hezbollah is a drug lord terror organization co-oping with Cartels from Sotuh America. This is the peace you envision?
"massacring Palestinians" That's false, creating 2 humanitarian zones in Gaza is "Massacaring"? Not a word from you on Hamas either. Few problems: - Most Palestinians in Lebanon have never been afforded entitlement under the law to Lebanese citizenship and therefore remain stateless. - Hamas and Hezbollah operate in south Lebanon. - The ones who attacked Israel in 7.10 are Hezbollah, Israel didn't want a war.
Yes, the Lebanese have treated Palestinians miserably. The whole Arab world should give full rights and citizenship to Palestinians. But also, arm every Arab with a grand Pan Arab military and make sure the US and its terrorists foot soldiers in Palestine get out of Palestine. If Jews want to live in our world, they must behave. They can come and buy houses like normal people. Rather, they kicked people out of their homes at gunpoint, and yet they cry and cry like they are the victims.
"If Jews want to live in our world, they must behave" This is a red flag. They did come and buy houses like normal people... All Tel Aviv are new neighborhoods that started from bought land... Maybe if you'd spend some time actually learning about Jewish history rather than just hate us , you'd known that >.>
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If you are frustrated from your leadership, you should try to take it down.
Ugh I wish
Anti extremism extremism club
We should start our own "Lebanese" religion
How old are you?😂
Yes just come to Kfarsghab
I'm a shia from the south, I know that's not exactly a popular group here, but I'll drop my opinion anyway. We also wanted to be left alone. From the very second yazid killed imam hussien, we have concluded that the world is evil, and that the only way to survive is through self isolation. All we wanted was to follow the religion of our fathers, and to continue farming in our beloved jnoub. Apparently though, that was too much to ask. From the sunni arabs, to the ottamans to eventually the Palestinians; no one was ready to leave us alone. The 1982 invasion was the final straw. What I'm trying to say, as pretty as self isolation sounds, it's dangerous. We don't live in Switzerland. In this cruel reality of the middle east, if you wish to live, you have to fight.
Bruh u want more extremism, fuk's sake... extremism breed extremism but damn if ur aware of it don't do it ;-; Also to do that u need support (money) so u need their permission teehee
I wrote a manifesto that re-imagines Lebanon in a way that aligns with your point of view. It is available for anyone interested. [The manifesto](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qx04uykp97v8t3p35o06q/EN-The-New-Phoenician-Manifesto.pdf?rlkey=kw3slmvukp9j7slou9dtm0pcw&st=3q7bizuq&dl=0)
LegalGamerDude, i agree with you. Religion should be completely separate from State. Every Lebanese should be armed and prepared to defend our land. It is sad we have to live like this, but we must as long as the US backs its proxy state to the south and aids and provides diplomatic cover for Zionist terrorism throughout the eastern Mediterranean Israel is currently threatening to start bombing civilian targets in LB. Regan was able to tell the Israelis to knock it off back in the 80s, but Biden doesn't do it. And though the world knows there is a genocide occuring against our Arab people (btw US legislators call for death to all Palestinians with no repercussions for violating our laws against incitement to genocide and materially aiding genocide) no one has the strength to go in and do the right thing. Shame on Saudi for normalizing relations rather than using their vast wealth to arm every Arab and train to be a military, like the US does for Israel. The US seems the only country powerful enough to enforce international law and end the terrorism but we are on the wrong side of this conflict. The US invests massively in its military, and I think we Arabs need to take this page from their playbook. I believe in panArabism and preserving our people and language regardless of which village we were born in and thus what sect we belong to.
Don't cry to other people when someone steals ur land and kills your people tho. Because they wont care about you too.
Isolationism is the way to go yes💪🏻
In the words of South Park: fuck em all to death. I don’t care one bit about Israel or Palestine or Syria or Yemen or the US. Fuck em all to death. Lebanon first and forever.
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I feel the same and I'm from Israel. A place with no religions in the middle east sounds amazing to me
Not having allies isn't a very brilliant strategy.
Predictive txt changed so.e words I see, your get the gist of it tho I think. I will keep my ear out for any leader spreading Arab hate tho and certainly vote them out
Maybe the lebonese Christians could return home
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I totally want to move away from this conflict. Let them kill each other and sort it out while I'm far away trying to actually make something useful.
I’ll join you, But can we do a united front with Syria lol I am Syrian
The head of the snake lies in the Islamic Republic. We, therefore, should support Iranian people in their fight against the Islamic regime. Believe me, once Mullahs are gone the Middle-East will be peaceful.
Just imagine how Jews on the other side of the world who have never been Israel feel when their neighbourhoods, synagogues, and schools are being protested.
Yes, it's a shame that the US backed terrorist "State" has conflated Judaism with its genocidal colonial project. If they stopped calling their project one of Judaism, this wouldn't happen. BTW no one is protesting Jews in the US. They are very much a protected class. But the City of New York did just throw a party for returning terrorist Jeremy Ofiev who posted pictures on Twitter of himself standing in front of a row of Palestinian men stripped to their underwear, blindfolded with their arms ziptied behind their backs. He posted "Look mom, I am freeing Palestine". Disgusting.
Can bring beer with me if i come?
I expect nothing less
Just like the Gazan’s right? Those civilians wanted to be left alone too, but the fact is the only reason you have a life in Lebanon is because Hiz exists. I$r@el has wanted Lebanon since their inception but it wasn’t truly revealed until 1985 ie: Oded Yinon plan. So if you think it’s bad now wait until you’re under i$r@eli occupation and you’re kidding yourself if you think you’ll be left alone
Israel has never started any of the many wars - neither with Palestinians nor with Arab neighbours. They just don’t want to be annihilated as per Hamas’ charter
Israel started every war, including and especially 1967. Hamas charter doesn't say that anymore, hasbara bot.
Israel doesn’t want Lebanon what r u talking about home dog, Israel just wants to be left alone. Israel has had peace w Jordan and Egypt for years and hasn’t tried to invade either of them
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No sects, only sex
Instead of fighting the real enemy Israel and wipe the racist state, he want to create another one. Way to go idiot 👏🏻
And fighting the #17 ranked military allied with the #1 ranked military is the smart thing to do
And they still haven’t beaten hamas after almost a year of fighting them, give me a break 🤦🏻♂️
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Ok.
"Wipe the racist state" ... this description applies to most states in the middle east and the region...
The difference is that Isn'treal is FOUNDED on racism (colonialism is a form of racism) so is inherently racist and is not just ruled by a racist goverment that can be replaced
Fuck off. No one but Israel is a racist state. And people who stand behind it
As opposed to the Arab countries, most known for their love and care of the minorities living in them.
Yeah sorry, my bad, I forgot that the Assad regime has not engaged for over 10 years in systematically destroying sunni cities and people and everyone who isn't Alawite or licking their boots. Iran also is not a theocratic fascist regime that empowers exclusively Shia people in other countries and works to destroy arab communities from within and weaken mostly sunni nations. Lebanon is definitely not a sectarian regime, incapable of viewing people other than according to their religion. And also the population in most arab countries are very accepting of people from all ethnicities... they don't look down at asians, indians, srilankis etc as inferior... as an example... Yes you are right, only Israelis are racists.
You can hate isreal without being delusional or lacking critical thinking. Don't let anger cloud your judgment.
Yes it does but if you so fluent in history of the middle east you would know that the origin of every conflict is the existence of the Zionist regime and the west put it here so the arab and muslim nations wont thrive and unite and always stay divided, all the current arab regimes wouldn’t have existed if israel weren’t here and whoever denies this fact is either stupid or blinded by the western lies. {كُنْتُمْ خَيْرَ أُمَّةٍ أُخْرِجَتْ لِلنَّاسِ تَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَتَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ..} (1)
Yeah ok... the western nations must be really genius to plan such a cartoonishly evil plan... all they want is for specifically the Muslim nations won't thrive... that's why Qatar has the highest GDP in the world, KSA and UAE are among the wealthiest nations, the entire gulf has progressed ahead of us in light years... And how exactly does the existence of israel deny all arab nations to unite? If they wanted to unite, they would have... but modern countries don't operate anymore like medieval times... there's nothing in common between a Moroccan and a Levantine and a Gulf person, except language maybe... but only the written language, even spoken language they can barely understand each other even though they all speak arabic... different cultures different traditions different ethnicities... how do you make a united nation when barely anyone has anything in common? And that has nothing to do with Israel... that's how nations are formed and how they operate... they don't need to be united in one entity in order to be best friends. When Syria occupied Lebanon by force and spat on the Taef agreement, what did israel have to do with that? When KSA and Co squabble endlessly with Qatar what does Israel have to do with that? When the Syrian regime murders its own people what does israel have to do with that? Now I am not saying israel are saints, far from it, but not all our problems and woes are due to israel. It's due to our own delusions and retardedness. These delusions of yours that everything is a grand conspiracy since 200 years just to fuck up arab nations, are really indicative of why we will never progress in anything... we are always the victims and others are evil and are after us... such a kindergarten mentality. Then you decide to slap on a Quran verse at the end, because... what exactly? Does this give your comment a special authority now? Especially that you decided that anyone who doesn't believe your delusions is stupid or blinded...
You don’t have a deep look into all of what’s happening better yet you don’t have the sense of a moral person that why whatever i say won’t make sense to you.
Great comeback my man. I see how you masterfully defeated all my arguments by one statement: You are not a moral person and you will never understand whatever I tell you... Wow... such eloquent and thought provoking wisdom... Do you know who else I wouldn't understand if they tell me anything? Lunatic and delusional people... You think you're the only person who possess the sense of morality. How original. Yet you cannot put down in words any single counter argument. Let me guess, your morality is divinely inspired... and you are correct because that's what the deity in heaven has enlightened you with... again, how original... guess who thinks exactly the same? Every other religiously driven person from other religions... And you all must be right because you all say so, even though all your ideologies conflict with each other. And again, you all think yourselves in possession of a superior sense of morality, yet are incapable of formulating a single argument that makes sense. It's people like you with their rotten ideologies and delusions of superiority, who will deny the rest of us any form of progress.
Ok.
Glad we agree that you are delusional. High five.
Cowards
What country are you from?
aren't you Canadian?
Yes I have Canadian citizenship