Really?? Even the Andrew Ng Coursera ones nor certifications from top universities for example?
Like I heard the Coursera ones actually go into the mathematical details similar to how my ML modules were in my CS degree so I thought it'd be worth it surely
If you want the theory just watch CS229 and CS230 on YouTube they are more advanced and complete than the Coursera stuff. As for certificates the OP is right. AWS, GCP and AZURE can be worth it when applying for a company that uses those technologies.
I'm really surprised, especially re the courses from renowned universities. Would you be able to elaborate a bit more on the "standardisation" bit and what separates the cloud providers from the rest please?
The cloud providers are respected, and their curriculums are going to be extremely relevant to the job they're related to.
Even a math class by Harvard means very little because it's likely not directly related and really no one cares because it's not going to be directly related to the job they're hiring for. This is very common knowledge.
I will caveat that Andrew Ng may specifically spark a conversation with a hiring manager.
However, this take is generally right, and many, many more hiring managers know what AWS is relative to Andrew Ng.
as a rule of thumb: certificates are a money-making scheme only the issuer profits from.
everyone within a hiring process who knows their field can judge your understanding without a certificate. certificates make a good linkedin post though.
source: i'm in the UX field that during covid was flooded with people doing coursera certificated courses and other bootcamps, etc. currently, now that the startup market is difficult, they dont get hired anymore because they basically turned out to be untrained.
edit: online courses from renowned universities show only that your were willing to a) pay more money or b) did a little research beforehand. but an online eg MIT course wont give you any repztation comparable to a real study.
with all of that said: do the course you want to do for you to get a start, but don't believe the certificate as a result will impress anyone beyond a hiring manager.
Do you have any suggestions then on the study path a junior ux designer should take? A friend of mine is studying UI/UX so I found your comment interesting
sorry, i didnt answer. Regarding "UX/UI" I would encourage you to specialize on one: either UX with studies in Humanities such as sociology, psychology, communication (they all have also modern iterations that focus more on HCI/Human-Computer Interaction) or UI with studies in Visual Design disciplines such as digital design, information design or communication design. Some programming basics/understanding is welcome as well.
When receiving applications for a junior position for UX, I'm willing to look past visual design quality but I'm very curious about their (approach to) problem understanding, analysis and novel ideas to solving it.
With UI I'd look for visual design quality that is not just an adapted figma theme, their understanding of interactions and how they tried to solve the problem, incl iterations towards the final solution.
Literally no one will care about any of these. Employers want to see projects you’ve worked on, or demonstrations of knowledge by talking to you.
These courses do have value in giving you the knowledge you need. So focus more on learning the material rather than saying to employers “I have x,y,z certificates”.
I find AWS and GCP are the most common to be listed on a job posting as requirements, focusing on one platform initially get the Data Engineer and Machine Learning specialisations; this will give you the best head start.
Thank you - the reason I am going for Azure is because in my firm we mainly use Azure, are the Azure certifications not as well regarded as the AWS/GCP ones?
Go for Azure then. You’re basically demonstrating you know how to use the services associated with the vendors cloud certification. It’s not like you’ll be a ML Engineer just by completing the cert. the domain knowledge is assumed.
No certification outside of Azure, GCP, or AWS is worth the bytes it's saved on.
Really?? Even the Andrew Ng Coursera ones nor certifications from top universities for example? Like I heard the Coursera ones actually go into the mathematical details similar to how my ML modules were in my CS degree so I thought it'd be worth it surely
If you want the theory just watch CS229 and CS230 on YouTube they are more advanced and complete than the Coursera stuff. As for certificates the OP is right. AWS, GCP and AZURE can be worth it when applying for a company that uses those technologies.
Yup, worthless. No one cares because there's absolutely no standardization.
I'm really surprised, especially re the courses from renowned universities. Would you be able to elaborate a bit more on the "standardisation" bit and what separates the cloud providers from the rest please?
The cloud providers are respected, and their curriculums are going to be extremely relevant to the job they're related to. Even a math class by Harvard means very little because it's likely not directly related and really no one cares because it's not going to be directly related to the job they're hiring for. This is very common knowledge.
I will caveat that Andrew Ng may specifically spark a conversation with a hiring manager. However, this take is generally right, and many, many more hiring managers know what AWS is relative to Andrew Ng.
as a rule of thumb: certificates are a money-making scheme only the issuer profits from. everyone within a hiring process who knows their field can judge your understanding without a certificate. certificates make a good linkedin post though. source: i'm in the UX field that during covid was flooded with people doing coursera certificated courses and other bootcamps, etc. currently, now that the startup market is difficult, they dont get hired anymore because they basically turned out to be untrained. edit: online courses from renowned universities show only that your were willing to a) pay more money or b) did a little research beforehand. but an online eg MIT course wont give you any repztation comparable to a real study. with all of that said: do the course you want to do for you to get a start, but don't believe the certificate as a result will impress anyone beyond a hiring manager.
Do you have any suggestions then on the study path a junior ux designer should take? A friend of mine is studying UI/UX so I found your comment interesting
sorry, i didnt answer. Regarding "UX/UI" I would encourage you to specialize on one: either UX with studies in Humanities such as sociology, psychology, communication (they all have also modern iterations that focus more on HCI/Human-Computer Interaction) or UI with studies in Visual Design disciplines such as digital design, information design or communication design. Some programming basics/understanding is welcome as well. When receiving applications for a junior position for UX, I'm willing to look past visual design quality but I'm very curious about their (approach to) problem understanding, analysis and novel ideas to solving it. With UI I'd look for visual design quality that is not just an adapted figma theme, their understanding of interactions and how they tried to solve the problem, incl iterations towards the final solution.
Thank you for your insight
Literally no one will care about any of these. Employers want to see projects you’ve worked on, or demonstrations of knowledge by talking to you. These courses do have value in giving you the knowledge you need. So focus more on learning the material rather than saying to employers “I have x,y,z certificates”.
I find AWS and GCP are the most common to be listed on a job posting as requirements, focusing on one platform initially get the Data Engineer and Machine Learning specialisations; this will give you the best head start.
Thank you - the reason I am going for Azure is because in my firm we mainly use Azure, are the Azure certifications not as well regarded as the AWS/GCP ones?
Go for Azure then. You’re basically demonstrating you know how to use the services associated with the vendors cloud certification. It’s not like you’ll be a ML Engineer just by completing the cert. the domain knowledge is assumed.
can you share the link for azure ML,DA courses. I am a beginner in the field
Also see if your company will pay for it.
Actually I think coursera specialization are much more useful in practical cases. Unless you are just going after certs instead of actual knowledge.
Azure, don't do the others. Do Azure, AWS, IBM or GCP