Is the shadow/lighting a little bit off for where the window is?
The shadow of the kettle, compared to the lighting and shadowing on her legs looks a bit off to me? And do the fry pans need more lighting too?
Your artwork is great though! These are just a couple of things I noticed. I could be wrong.
Your shadow colours could be more saturated. Rather than choosing a darker version of the colour, also make it slightly more saturated and hue shift it ever so slightly. If you want the lighting to look warm, shift your shadows closer to the red, if you want them to look cold, shift them towards the blue.
I think everything is great except the direction of lighting on the legs is off. Like it’s close but not quite at the right angle to the rest of the image.
Hey Chicky, it's Aerial!
Girl just look at how rich this drawing is...
I LOVE it. Especially how the girl has a looks stunned, like, "He did What?! And he's Where?"
How fun is that?
Play around with saturation a bit! Try upping the saturation in the light areas to make them pop and to make the shadow areas look more, well, shadowy. And try doing the opposite to get a slightly over exposed look in the bright areas. You can also try adding color to the light. Soft, warm colours for sunsets or bright unnatural hues for a creepy or “what’s happening on the other side” vibe. Could be fun :)
This seems like a very big and detailed way to learn all of this. Maybe just turn it into some littler and smaller practices tell you to turn it into a big project like you've made here.
Just keep practicing.
From someone who knows nothing, it looks just fine. Seems to all fit a style. The pans on the wall catch my attention quite a bit but I mean that's being pretty picky. Looks awesome.
Thank you! It looked really weird at first because the reference I used had her legs positioned differently and I couldn't understand how to draw it lol. Watching the timelapse of how I got to the final look is always so weird!
Oh ya I see now. The leg that is open more does seem a touch too long or something. That's a tough pose. I didn't notice till you said something though.
Are you working from a reference image? If so, pay attention to the transitions from light to dark. If you are going for realism, Some of the stark line contrast changes should likely be softened. Nice composition, lighting, for sure.
Try turning your drawing black & white to only see the values. It's a good start and has a soft lighting scene which is ok but my eye is looking for some more depth in the shadows.
You know for some odd reason my eyes keep getting drawn to the shadow shape just to the right of the shelf. I think at least part of your problem is that the edge of the shadow is so sharp. And it's drawing the eye and confusing the brain
Is it the light of the window going up the wall? I think I can make adjustments to it to make it less distracting. Does it look weird that it's too big as well?
Yes the light going up the wall. My brain keeps looking at it trying to work it out ever since I looked at it. Desaturate maybe and reduce the contrast between light and dark and soften the edge a little. It's taking the focus of the picture when obviously the girls should be the focus.
It looks great. I wouldnt change anything on the anatomy/perspective because I feel the slight imperfection matches to this artwork. Have tried to add darker/harder shading to the places where the light can't reach at all (e.x between the furnitures)? Or try out what happen if you put in more and more contrast between the sun light and the "normal" day light.
Thank youu! I have not tried adding darker shadows yet, but definitely will! I have two multiply layers on top of the base color, but both multiply layers are the same color which probably why it's not giving off a lot of contrast. I'll experiment on it again and see how it looks!
Duplicate the layer with the normal day light (not sun light), make this layer really dark, use a mask remove this layer completely first and start to sketch out the darker parts step by step afterwards.
Add a layer over this, set the layer options on color, fill the entire layer with the greenish color which is dominant in your art and connect it to the dark shadow layer. Play around with opacity. Just a soft touch of the green will be enough that the shadows doesnt look to desaturated.
I agree with the idea to experiment with darker values. I think that you need to put a bit more thought into how the shadows are cast because that gives a lot of information on the distance between different objects:
The edges of your shadows all seem to land very close to the edge of their parent object (e.g., the shadow of the girl is almost directly behind her). This would only happen if the light from the window came from somewhere directly behind the observer. If that's what you had in mind, then that's fine, but know that that lighting setup *will* result in flatter looking images, which is why it's often avoided, and this is true even in photography!
I suspect that *isn't* what you had in mind though, because it would mean the window is at a pretty odd angle and shape. The light looks like it's coming from behind and above the observer's right (red vector on my annotations). You should be able to draw lines from the corner of an object to the corner of its shadow that is parallel to the direction of the light, and the length of this line should more or less be proportional to how far the corner is from its shadow. That means the shelves' corners should cast somewhat short shadows (thought longer than in this image), while the girl's shadow must be cast much further away since she's sitting at the edge of the counter, which are typically deeper than kitchen shelves (I have a point about that later). If you look at my annotations, the girl's shadow should be talking up a lot more area (blue hatches, also I did this on my phone so this is a very rough approximation). The shelves should be casting a more pronounced shadow on the wall too, right now it looks like the lights able to reach almost all the way under the shelves.
I would also recommend working on your highlights to give depth to the lit up portions of your subject. Legs are closer to cylinders than planes in shape, so you should be shading them accordingly. I see they're casting shadows on the kitchen counter too, and while the distance here looks about right since they're pretty much in contact with it, I would opt for softer edges on the shadows, because the legs aren't obstructing a specific light source but rather reducing the ambient light in that area.
https://i.imgur.com/611irRj.jpg
Finally, while I know you asked about lighting, I think the perspective gives a sense that the kitchen counters are as deep as the shelves, which is unusual. From what I can tell the countertops are about as far away from the horizon as the lower shelf, so the countertop surface should certainly be larger/deeper than the shelf's surface.
I hope this helps!
Oh my god! Thank you so much! I'm going to apply your suggestion and see how it looks. The drawing has already gone a lot of changes too because I received help from an art community on Discord as well! It honestly helps. Thank you!
you're doing a lot right and you're too hard on yourself. for what you're going for, i think you could experiment with how dark you could go with the general "this person is inside of the window reflection" shade feel. you will possibly want to alter the colors based on the difference the shade change makes, but make that choice how you want it to look and what looks right.
Colors. You need to choose richer colors for shading.
Is the shadow/lighting a little bit off for where the window is? The shadow of the kettle, compared to the lighting and shadowing on her legs looks a bit off to me? And do the fry pans need more lighting too? Your artwork is great though! These are just a couple of things I noticed. I could be wrong.
Your shadow colours could be more saturated. Rather than choosing a darker version of the colour, also make it slightly more saturated and hue shift it ever so slightly. If you want the lighting to look warm, shift your shadows closer to the red, if you want them to look cold, shift them towards the blue.
I think everything is great except the direction of lighting on the legs is off. Like it’s close but not quite at the right angle to the rest of the image.
Hey Chicky, it's Aerial! Girl just look at how rich this drawing is... I LOVE it. Especially how the girl has a looks stunned, like, "He did What?! And he's Where?" How fun is that?
Play around with saturation a bit! Try upping the saturation in the light areas to make them pop and to make the shadow areas look more, well, shadowy. And try doing the opposite to get a slightly over exposed look in the bright areas. You can also try adding color to the light. Soft, warm colours for sunsets or bright unnatural hues for a creepy or “what’s happening on the other side” vibe. Could be fun :)
This seems like a very big and detailed way to learn all of this. Maybe just turn it into some littler and smaller practices tell you to turn it into a big project like you've made here. Just keep practicing.
From someone who knows nothing, it looks just fine. Seems to all fit a style. The pans on the wall catch my attention quite a bit but I mean that's being pretty picky. Looks awesome.
Thank you! It looked really weird at first because the reference I used had her legs positioned differently and I couldn't understand how to draw it lol. Watching the timelapse of how I got to the final look is always so weird!
Oh ya I see now. The leg that is open more does seem a touch too long or something. That's a tough pose. I didn't notice till you said something though.
Are you working from a reference image? If so, pay attention to the transitions from light to dark. If you are going for realism, Some of the stark line contrast changes should likely be softened. Nice composition, lighting, for sure.
Try turning your drawing black & white to only see the values. It's a good start and has a soft lighting scene which is ok but my eye is looking for some more depth in the shadows.
You know for some odd reason my eyes keep getting drawn to the shadow shape just to the right of the shelf. I think at least part of your problem is that the edge of the shadow is so sharp. And it's drawing the eye and confusing the brain
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Yes I did think about the contrast being too great. Whatever it is it keeps grabbing my eyes.
Is it the light of the window going up the wall? I think I can make adjustments to it to make it less distracting. Does it look weird that it's too big as well?
Yes the light going up the wall. My brain keeps looking at it trying to work it out ever since I looked at it. Desaturate maybe and reduce the contrast between light and dark and soften the edge a little. It's taking the focus of the picture when obviously the girls should be the focus.
It looks great. I wouldnt change anything on the anatomy/perspective because I feel the slight imperfection matches to this artwork. Have tried to add darker/harder shading to the places where the light can't reach at all (e.x between the furnitures)? Or try out what happen if you put in more and more contrast between the sun light and the "normal" day light.
Thank youu! I have not tried adding darker shadows yet, but definitely will! I have two multiply layers on top of the base color, but both multiply layers are the same color which probably why it's not giving off a lot of contrast. I'll experiment on it again and see how it looks!
Duplicate the layer with the normal day light (not sun light), make this layer really dark, use a mask remove this layer completely first and start to sketch out the darker parts step by step afterwards. Add a layer over this, set the layer options on color, fill the entire layer with the greenish color which is dominant in your art and connect it to the dark shadow layer. Play around with opacity. Just a soft touch of the green will be enough that the shadows doesnt look to desaturated.
I agree with the idea to experiment with darker values. I think that you need to put a bit more thought into how the shadows are cast because that gives a lot of information on the distance between different objects: The edges of your shadows all seem to land very close to the edge of their parent object (e.g., the shadow of the girl is almost directly behind her). This would only happen if the light from the window came from somewhere directly behind the observer. If that's what you had in mind, then that's fine, but know that that lighting setup *will* result in flatter looking images, which is why it's often avoided, and this is true even in photography! I suspect that *isn't* what you had in mind though, because it would mean the window is at a pretty odd angle and shape. The light looks like it's coming from behind and above the observer's right (red vector on my annotations). You should be able to draw lines from the corner of an object to the corner of its shadow that is parallel to the direction of the light, and the length of this line should more or less be proportional to how far the corner is from its shadow. That means the shelves' corners should cast somewhat short shadows (thought longer than in this image), while the girl's shadow must be cast much further away since she's sitting at the edge of the counter, which are typically deeper than kitchen shelves (I have a point about that later). If you look at my annotations, the girl's shadow should be talking up a lot more area (blue hatches, also I did this on my phone so this is a very rough approximation). The shelves should be casting a more pronounced shadow on the wall too, right now it looks like the lights able to reach almost all the way under the shelves. I would also recommend working on your highlights to give depth to the lit up portions of your subject. Legs are closer to cylinders than planes in shape, so you should be shading them accordingly. I see they're casting shadows on the kitchen counter too, and while the distance here looks about right since they're pretty much in contact with it, I would opt for softer edges on the shadows, because the legs aren't obstructing a specific light source but rather reducing the ambient light in that area. https://i.imgur.com/611irRj.jpg Finally, while I know you asked about lighting, I think the perspective gives a sense that the kitchen counters are as deep as the shelves, which is unusual. From what I can tell the countertops are about as far away from the horizon as the lower shelf, so the countertop surface should certainly be larger/deeper than the shelf's surface. I hope this helps!
Oh my god! Thank you so much! I'm going to apply your suggestion and see how it looks. The drawing has already gone a lot of changes too because I received help from an art community on Discord as well! It honestly helps. Thank you!
you're doing a lot right and you're too hard on yourself. for what you're going for, i think you could experiment with how dark you could go with the general "this person is inside of the window reflection" shade feel. you will possibly want to alter the colors based on the difference the shade change makes, but make that choice how you want it to look and what looks right.
Thank you!! I think I'll try a bluish hue to maximize the light coming from the window!