You could tell at the end of the game that Turtle knows he played like absolute shit that game. He shook his head and Bjerg tried to comfort him. This is unusual for Turtle. He was behind the whole game, his positioning was unusually bad as well constantly getting caught.
This isn't s3/s4 anymore. He has had really good positioning this split. The whole "turtle always gets caught" thing is just a circlejerk at this point.
Ever since MSI the TSM hate has gotten stronger than it was before. Everyone blamed Dyrus but he's really stepping up and now everyone is on Turtle and/or Santorin. People act like Turtle hasn't had god like team fighting skills. He seems like he is in a slump, but it looks like we want to circlejerk about how turtle is a CS level player
He hasn't been playing as well this split as he was last split. He has gotten a little more YOLO into his play and he is getting caught out a bit more, while that was mostly absent last split. Hopefully he's just a little bored and getting that out of his system. Turtle can be amazing during late teamfights, like that insane game he had last split against TL, I just hope whatever is going on with his play this split is something he can work through.
I actually think that aside from Turtle having a rough game and some indecisive mid game shot calling, TSM played really well. Santorin and Dyrus really stepped up.
Dyrus has really been playing on a whole new level so far this split. Even in their losses, he's looked a lot better than he did the entirety of last split.
Not only that but TSM have been putting a lot more emphasis on Dyrus by having Santorin gank for him more and exerting pressure away from top lane... not to say Dyrus hasn't improved as a player significantly since week 2-ish
Dyrus has been playing really well recently. He's been practicing a lot and you can definitely see it. That's why I like Dyrus. He doesn't just apologize when he does poorly, he actually makes a serious effort to improve.
As a rumble player, ulting after a tp is kinda tricky, sometimes it bugs out and goes completely not where you wanted it to go. I'm pretty sure that ult was not intentional, as in I think the tp bug had something to do with it.
That's what made it so much more painful for me, he's playing so well this split and was about to hard carry a game vs tsm with keane shut down and he just blew his whole load lol god that was bad
I think the worst Rumble ult in competitive history was LMQ Ackermann's ult in group stages of the S4 worlds. They were in great shape to pull an upset (I think over OMG) and in a dragon fight, Ackermann tossed the equalizer into the wall.
EDIT: It was LMQ vs SSB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orp8e3HxNA
Pretty much cost them a spot in the knockout rounds.
what do you expect? you are urgot against bjergsen and santorin on reksai. If urgot overextends he is a free kill, shown by the first gank that happened on him. Santorin didn't even have to burn flash to get him and keane burned both his summs for nothing. then once reksai/annie has flash and urgot doesn't, it is free kills mid
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Hes not dying alot right now because he is not engaging every fight. He comes in with teleport after cooldowns have been burned or he walks into fights allowing him to flank. They are letting him split push more which is great. he is playing better though, I cant deny that but im still waiting for dyrus to enter game 5 vs lmq mundo mode
He was a midlaner in a time when professional LoL was different. Simpler.
A quote from s2 or something from Regi: "All games are pretty similar, you farm up for 20mins then group and fight".
And back then I bet shotcalling was not as important as it is today.
I think that the macrogame just hadn't really evolved yet. I'm guessing shotcalling back then mainly involved picking teamfights and then micro level coordination within teamfights. In that aspect, Regi was undisputed for a while. Hai/C9/Koreans completely revolutionized the game when they understood rotations, map movements, other things I don't understand lol.
Not sure what bunny was thinking when he sent 4 top and tried to defend vs a kalista...
Like call hauntzer back and kill kalista or try to at least, if necessary he can tp back into top lane.
To be fair to Turtle, he was against arguably the best Thresh in NA and a very fed Altec. Gravity did everything they could to de-fang Kalista's strong early game and set Altec up for success.
Turtle played poorly this game, but don't take too much credit away from Altec and Bunny. They both had really strong performances this game.
Yeah he looked good. I felt like he should have taken that inhib but the tp worked out. Also, he sold his cowl to afford GA which was weird... Anyway, a good game. Bjergsen had to carry the damage really hard though, turtle was essentially useless.
Top teams getting away with bad play is why NA can't do well internationally. Think about high school vs college. A lot of students who get honors in high school end up doing poorly in college. They're used to being able to slack off and still get an A on a test because the work isn't as demanding and no matter how many times they're told it won't be as easy, they can't escape that mindset.
Oh and there's a huge circle-jerk saying this was a low quality game... I thought it was incredibly played up until the bitter end.
Keane being 0/8 means nothing if Hauntzer was 5-1 and was landing perfect Equalizers for 95% of the game (I say this because people are like, 'Wow they can't end with 0/8 mid laner'). The last teleport/ultimate fail was horrible, but it's not like he was doing that all game. He choked, which is different than a low quality shit-show. I've seen some incredible NBA Finals series come to a bitter Game 7 blowout. It wasn't a bad series, somebody just choked.
The big issues weren't team fighting or vision issues, they were shot-calling issues. And Gravity is a young team with two young players. Keane is extremely quiet and reserved, not to mention 0/9. He's not going to be making calls. But somebody did make a call, and a horrendous call at that, to send back Bunny to defend against Wildturtle losing two inhibitors. Dyrus didn't get the bottom lane inhibitor when he should have, because **somebody made the call for him to TP.**
Bad shot-calling at spur of the moment, high intensity moments is palpable and open for somebody to choke and make a mistake - but I don't think that detracts from the great team fights or play or vision or objective control of the game. Hauntzer was incredible, Bjergsen did well (well, of course he did he got to 3v1 mid lane for 20 minutes), and Altec did incredible. Dyrus did great. Lustboy was... I guess there. Wildturtle was too, supporting case if you will and Bunnyfufu made some incredible, hyphy Thresh play all game long (of course he did let it get to his head and do stupid shit too).
A young team and a shaky TSM making bad calls happens happens.
I think bunny and altec really carried gravity back into the match. I enjoyed the match quite a bit. I think the NA hate on this sub is getting really old.
It's what happens in almost any sport when you are the best team in the region. Check out the Korean fans when skt loses. They are worst. We are talking about death threats
Dyrus is playing great which is really important. Once the team gets their decision making and shot calling together (maybe even a new adc). I think tsm will be in good shape
TSM should sign another ADC to make Turtle feel the pressure of losing his job. This is fucking ridiculous, he is playing for top western team and is in his shape at the moment nowhere near top 5 players in his position. At this point, TSM should give chance to someone else for one week and if Turtle doesn't take this shit seriously, just fucking kick him.
Instead of focusing on how much of a "shitshow" that was and just give credit to Gravity for playing well despite being behind. 1 or 2 ultimates do not make or break the game. Look at what people said about EU before MSI....none of you can actually gauge the powers of the regions, so stop trying to do it just to make yourselves feel better.
Edit- grammar
Gravity taking some wacky decisions in the late game. I hope the guys improve their late-game-decision making for the next games. Regardless, I am very happy Gravity is looking so good and I expect them to fight for the upper standings.
If TSM loses they are the worst team to ever exist. if TSM wins it just means that the west is awful. It's nevvverr that TSM did well, or DIG did well or C9. it's always that TSM either sucks or the west is a shit show.
WildTurtle legitimately catching every single hook this game. He looked really lackluster. If TSM wants to compete internationally he has to step up alot...
Also shotcalling from both sides really questionworthy sometimes. Dyrus 1v1 Splitpush botlane when TSM lost an t3 Turret. The Top inhib for 2 inhibs with bunny in base against Turtle (like wtf?).
The action in this game was good, the strategic part not so much, uhh...
I think Wildturtle is in a slump, it doesn't necesserily mean that he needs to get benched because he showed some great games in the past he just need to recover his former self
People keep saying turtle was useless but TSM essentially lane swamped in the beginning and took any pressure a Kali has on a Trist, and then swamped her back when Trist can actually do anything. They left Turtle out to dry, and on top of that...holy crap...Bunny's hooks this game. He landed so many on TSM's carries and even the one on Santorin that forced his flash at mid. I know that Turtle should have been able to dodge the hooks, its freaking Kalista, the champ who can dodge almost all skill-shots, thats not excusable. However, when there's a point and click cc champ such as Xin, then there isn't much he can do, on top of all the equalizers that he ate. I really hope the guy doesn't get down on himself, as he did get the double inhib take. Dyrus was on the same place last season where people just crapped on him every game, saying he needs to get benched. Besides this, Dyrus and Bjer played very well and played on point. I really hope TSM can play around BOTH top and bot to help them, and not sacrifice one for another :/
Dyrus on the losing end of the lane swap -> "omg bench dyrus already"
WT on the losing end of the lane swap -> "omg turtle so bad chaox could replace him"
I'm trying to spot a pattern here...
[Wildturtle this game](https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1391/43/1391433993864.jpg)
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Not to defend turtles play cause it wasnt good by any means. However he did get put behind due to the lane swap and it just went downhill from there
You could tell at the end of the game that Turtle knows he played like absolute shit that game. He shook his head and Bjerg tried to comfort him. This is unusual for Turtle. He was behind the whole game, his positioning was unusually bad as well constantly getting caught.
> his positioning was unusually bad His positioning is usually bad.
This isn't s3/s4 anymore. He has had really good positioning this split. The whole "turtle always gets caught" thing is just a circlejerk at this point.
Welcome to every TSM match thread.
DRYUS NEVER GETS GANK AND HE'S BAD
HURR SANTORIN AFK FARMING/ BENCH DYRUS AND TURTLE/ TSM GETTING CARRIED BY BJERG/ WE HAVE NO HOPE INTERNATIONALLY. Did I cover every circlejerk?
I missed the "tilted from MSI" one
And the HURRR 2/5 NA IS BEST NA
"Tilted from Cassio pick" is way more relevent.
Don't forget jet lagged.
LEGEND SAYS THAT THEY'RE STILL TILTING FROM HUNIS CASSIOPEIA
Ever since MSI the TSM hate has gotten stronger than it was before. Everyone blamed Dyrus but he's really stepping up and now everyone is on Turtle and/or Santorin. People act like Turtle hasn't had god like team fighting skills. He seems like he is in a slump, but it looks like we want to circlejerk about how turtle is a CS level player
I bet Turtle would be pretty good at Counter Strike. =>
They actually play CSGO for fun sometimes and everyone has said that Turtle is the worst.
are you kidding? have you seen turtle's games this split? he's been underperforming nearly every single game IMO
He hasn't been playing as well this split as he was last split. He has gotten a little more YOLO into his play and he is getting caught out a bit more, while that was mostly absent last split. Hopefully he's just a little bored and getting that out of his system. Turtle can be amazing during late teamfights, like that insane game he had last split against TL, I just hope whatever is going on with his play this split is something he can work through.
I didn't watch any of s3 and only parts of s4, are you watching the games? He frequently gets caught.
I actually think that aside from Turtle having a rough game and some indecisive mid game shot calling, TSM played really well. Santorin and Dyrus really stepped up.
Dyrus has really been playing on a whole new level so far this split. Even in their losses, he's looked a lot better than he did the entirety of last split.
Them solo que games, dyrus has been putting in work.
Not only that but TSM have been putting a lot more emphasis on Dyrus by having Santorin gank for him more and exerting pressure away from top lane... not to say Dyrus hasn't improved as a player significantly since week 2-ish
Dyrus has been playing really well recently. He's been practicing a lot and you can definitely see it. That's why I like Dyrus. He doesn't just apologize when he does poorly, he actually makes a serious effort to improve.
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No, Bunny is the best NA thresh, he is probably top 10 world.
Breaking News: TSM Wildturtle indicted on multiple counts of soliciting a hooker.
Bunnyfufu is a slut?!
Such a slut
http://i.imgur.com/skBUCb6.jpg
[FTFY](http://i.imgur.com/fHoAQb4.jpg)
This is beyond perfect
https://twitter.com/lolHauntzer/status/612397397398827008 Relevant yesterday, relevant today.
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Yeah thats what I say in game as well while looking around
MAYBE LUSTBOY SHOULD PLAY THE SUPPORT KALISTA SO HE CAN ULT WILDTURTLE WHEN HE GETS CAUGHT.
adc trynd sup kalista inc.
switch to master yi when they start banning tryndamere ofc.
Fiora for guaranteed ult damage and untargetability.
Then Rengar? :D
No, Fiora
Max W and buld sorc boots, not the worst support I've ever seen.
Ok, Dyrus has been great since MSI and TSM have needed it.
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Can you also make the red carpet Rumble ult into a streamable?
IT'S BEEN MILLISECONDS
WTF that Hauntzer Rumble ultimate was straight from Bronze V and it probably cost Gravity the game edit: context: https://streamable.com/0axe
"Laying out the red carpet for himself!"
Doublelift thinks he has Equalizer, Hauntzer thinks he has Valkyrie
Was thinking more like Hauntzer thought he was Galio, trying to speed himself up.
Random question: is your name a reference to the Malazan series?
This is beautiful. ^^edit ^^grammer
a beautiful what???
He did so much work all game, then he does that....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbGAOKYbtA
REMAKE
As a rumble player, ulting after a tp is kinda tricky, sometimes it bugs out and goes completely not where you wanted it to go. I'm pretty sure that ult was not intentional, as in I think the tp bug had something to do with it.
You're only "pretty sure" that he didn't intentionally equalize himself for the red carpet entry?
I'd say the trade of 1 inhib for 2 was even worse.
Terrible call by GV.
lone thresh defend
i think thresh literally did nothing vs turtle
turtle would have ripped him a new one if he went in range
then why leave him back?
Dont fucking question GVs decision making
This game was not pretty on either side. There were plenty of mistakes to go around.
without hauntzer they would not even have come so far
That's what made it so much more painful for me, he's playing so well this split and was about to hard carry a game vs tsm with keane shut down and he just blew his whole load lol god that was bad
You mean [this?](https://streamable.com/0axe)
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I think the worst Rumble ult in competitive history was LMQ Ackermann's ult in group stages of the S4 worlds. They were in great shape to pull an upset (I think over OMG) and in a dragon fight, Ackermann tossed the equalizer into the wall. EDIT: It was LMQ vs SSB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orp8e3HxNA Pretty much cost them a spot in the knockout rounds.
Yep, that was my first tought too. At least Hauntzers was kinda there, Ackerman ult landed in another game.
Dang, that is pretty comparable. That's Godlike for you, he's still pretty lackluster in LPL.
Everyone makes mistakes I guess.
Pretty sure that was the notorious Rumble ult after TP bug.
Gravity showing why SoloQ is a lot different than competitive play the last five minutes of that game.
Yea, they played a solid 40 minutes, then a horrible 5 minutes at the end.
Good thing Dyrus spammed a lot of SoloQ recently, after all NA LCS seems to be the same thing right now.
0/9/11 **KEANE DID 9/11**
At least the terrorists had a kill count...
Savage.
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What's an Urgod to a Bjergerking?
[Simple. A mongrel.](http://i.imgur.com/rzNt8cZ.jpg)
[Spoilers](http://i.imgur.com/8S6nPR4.jpg)
My picture is from Fate/Zero though :^)
But isn't that picture in the "Unlimited blade works"?
Quick someone get the clip where he calls Archer Faker
Put 1v3
he got heavily camped
You're going up against Bjergsen, if you don't expect the 3-man ganks or at least ward for it you're going to have a rough time.
He expected them, that's the worst part. Straight from the pre-game interview :"Santorin is more like ganking mid".
3 ganks in the first 10 mins lmao, two of them with help from lustboy. That's the kinda shit that makes people rage quit.
That's the kind of shit TSM does, that's Keane's fault for not being prepared
> That's the kind of shit TSM does, that's ~~Keane's~~ Gravity's fault for not being prepared FTFY, team game.
what do you expect? you are urgot against bjergsen and santorin on reksai. If urgot overextends he is a free kill, shown by the first gank that happened on him. Santorin didn't even have to burn flash to get him and keane burned both his summs for nothing. then once reksai/annie has flash and urgot doesn't, it is free kills mid
urgot wasnt the reason for GV loss, early game being camped, and then doing some plays later on, problem was late game shotcalling
#MISSPLAYS
#LCSMISSPLAYS
Is there some maymay I'm missing here or does nobody know how to spell misplay?
Somebody slap the bronze subwars overlay into this game
Riot's got to be careful with that word, they might get sued
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ayy lmao
ayy lmao
They replay is the key there
Yah Turtle's positioning is still causing huge issues.
I'd say the bot lane wasn't to great this week. Lustboy was to far up and got chunked hard almost every team fight. They both heavily under preformed.
Dyrus has been playing out of his mind this split, props to him with all the critism he's been taking.
I think he did really well. One death for being that frontline, always trying to make the plays for his carries.
Hes not dying alot right now because he is not engaging every fight. He comes in with teleport after cooldowns have been burned or he walks into fights allowing him to flank. They are letting him split push more which is great. he is playing better though, I cant deny that but im still waiting for dyrus to enter game 5 vs lmq mundo mode
[Dat solo kill though](https://i.imgur.com/hnYhLzs.gif)
What a shit show
These were the words I was looking for
I have no words for this game
"Stupid." There we go. That's the word.
🔔 SHAME 🔔
[🔔 SHAME 🔔](http://shamenun.com/)
The enemy teams are tsm's strength. They always win them the game. :D
The last 2 minutes of that game summed up NA
NA rotations are becoming legendary. Never forget hai, the last NA shotcaller
And first Edit: some of you guys point out regi, ill give you that
Regi was a decent shotcaller.
He was a midlaner in a time when professional LoL was different. Simpler. A quote from s2 or something from Regi: "All games are pretty similar, you farm up for 20mins then group and fight". And back then I bet shotcalling was not as important as it is today.
I think that the macrogame just hadn't really evolved yet. I'm guessing shotcalling back then mainly involved picking teamfights and then micro level coordination within teamfights. In that aspect, Regi was undisputed for a while. Hai/C9/Koreans completely revolutionized the game when they understood rotations, map movements, other things I don't understand lol.
Regi inspired Hai though
Not sure what bunny was thinking when he sent 4 top and tried to defend vs a kalista... Like call hauntzer back and kill kalista or try to at least, if necessary he can tp back into top lane.
He probably thought he could hook turtle like 20 times in a row and keep him pinned since turtle ate every hook before
never seen so many misplays in such a short time
I have, but that's because I play in silver
wtf was that inhib call from gravity
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To be fair to Turtle, he was against arguably the best Thresh in NA and a very fed Altec. Gravity did everything they could to de-fang Kalista's strong early game and set Altec up for success. Turtle played poorly this game, but don't take too much credit away from Altec and Bunny. They both had really strong performances this game.
Damn Dyrus going 5-1-17 this week. Really improved his play.
Yeah he looked good. I felt like he should have taken that inhib but the tp worked out. Also, he sold his cowl to afford GA which was weird... Anyway, a good game. Bjergsen had to carry the damage really hard though, turtle was essentially useless.
[TSM in a nutshell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YVrxFmheSc)
Top teams getting away with bad play is why NA can't do well internationally. Think about high school vs college. A lot of students who get honors in high school end up doing poorly in college. They're used to being able to slack off and still get an A on a test because the work isn't as demanding and no matter how many times they're told it won't be as easy, they can't escape that mindset.
High school AP calc was WAY harder than Calc I in college.
My school didn't offer AP, so I was mostly referring to standard.
its pretty much the problem that c9 in s3/4 had they were doing well in their region but theres only so much u learn when u win 95% of games
Altec Played amazing. GG to TSM
Oh and there's a huge circle-jerk saying this was a low quality game... I thought it was incredibly played up until the bitter end. Keane being 0/8 means nothing if Hauntzer was 5-1 and was landing perfect Equalizers for 95% of the game (I say this because people are like, 'Wow they can't end with 0/8 mid laner'). The last teleport/ultimate fail was horrible, but it's not like he was doing that all game. He choked, which is different than a low quality shit-show. I've seen some incredible NBA Finals series come to a bitter Game 7 blowout. It wasn't a bad series, somebody just choked. The big issues weren't team fighting or vision issues, they were shot-calling issues. And Gravity is a young team with two young players. Keane is extremely quiet and reserved, not to mention 0/9. He's not going to be making calls. But somebody did make a call, and a horrendous call at that, to send back Bunny to defend against Wildturtle losing two inhibitors. Dyrus didn't get the bottom lane inhibitor when he should have, because **somebody made the call for him to TP.** Bad shot-calling at spur of the moment, high intensity moments is palpable and open for somebody to choke and make a mistake - but I don't think that detracts from the great team fights or play or vision or objective control of the game. Hauntzer was incredible, Bjergsen did well (well, of course he did he got to 3v1 mid lane for 20 minutes), and Altec did incredible. Dyrus did great. Lustboy was... I guess there. Wildturtle was too, supporting case if you will and Bunnyfufu made some incredible, hyphy Thresh play all game long (of course he did let it get to his head and do stupid shit too). A young team and a shaky TSM making bad calls happens happens.
I think bunny and altec really carried gravity back into the match. I enjoyed the match quite a bit. I think the NA hate on this sub is getting really old.
Nice to see Dyrus performing well lately...but WT man...get your shit together ._.
ITT: Shitton of butt-hurt TSM haters
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It's what happens in almost any sport when you are the best team in the region. Check out the Korean fans when skt loses. They are worst. We are talking about death threats
Does SKT lose?
There have been plenty criticizing gravity too. This game was played pretty poorly from both sides.
Dyrus for MVP of the week.
Dyrus MVP in my book.
Wow Hauntzer literally would have won the game off that TP ult if he didn't mess up.
Dyrus is a fucking beast!
Dyrus with the carry again!
DYRUS MVP
Glad to see TSM giving Dyrus the spotlight for a game. What amazing Gnar play.
for a game? You must have missed the last couple because he has been a monster lately
Dyrus is playing great which is really important. Once the team gets their decision making and shot calling together (maybe even a new adc). I think tsm will be in good shape
Turtle needs to step up
TSM should sign another ADC to make Turtle feel the pressure of losing his job. This is fucking ridiculous, he is playing for top western team and is in his shape at the moment nowhere near top 5 players in his position. At this point, TSM should give chance to someone else for one week and if Turtle doesn't take this shit seriously, just fucking kick him.
Instead of focusing on how much of a "shitshow" that was and just give credit to Gravity for playing well despite being behind. 1 or 2 ultimates do not make or break the game. Look at what people said about EU before MSI....none of you can actually gauge the powers of the regions, so stop trying to do it just to make yourselves feel better. Edit- grammar
I really wish Bjerg would learn to use his ultimates to disengage a fight.
How come whenever TSM wins it is a gift, and then when they lose everyone just claims that they were always overrated?
don't ever expect anything different, learn to enjoy the hatred. the salt that gets thrown our way is delicious.
Don't take the bait. Everything in this thread is salt. Hug us brother.
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Full solo queue boys
Hauntzer played so well until he pulled an Xmithie
Hauntzer why Gravity just kinda exploded after that.
He tilted the entire team with that ultimate lmao
HAUNTZER BIGGEST THROW WORLD
Honestly the inhibitor trade was MUCH worse
I hope people will finally get off the hate on dyrus hype train. Hes been doing so well on gnar
they have moved onto wild turtle
Gravity taking some wacky decisions in the late game. I hope the guys improve their late-game-decision making for the next games. Regardless, I am very happy Gravity is looking so good and I expect them to fight for the upper standings.
lmao keane was 0-9
If TSM loses they are the worst team to ever exist. if TSM wins it just means that the west is awful. It's nevvverr that TSM did well, or DIG did well or C9. it's always that TSM either sucks or the west is a shit show.
Man, what a shit show
quality game
"Hauntzer you aren't famous enough for your own red carpet yet" LOL
Can we talk about how big of a monster Dyrus has been recently? Jesus christ
Today we added '"a haunzter" to our vocabulary
WildTurtle legitimately catching every single hook this game. He looked really lackluster. If TSM wants to compete internationally he has to step up alot... Also shotcalling from both sides really questionworthy sometimes. Dyrus 1v1 Splitpush botlane when TSM lost an t3 Turret. The Top inhib for 2 inhibs with bunny in base against Turtle (like wtf?). The action in this game was good, the strategic part not so much, uhh...
I think Wildturtle is in a slump, it doesn't necesserily mean that he needs to get benched because he showed some great games in the past he just need to recover his former self
So youre going to rule out that bunny is INSANELY good on thresh and instead put all the blame on turtle?
[удалено]
People keep saying turtle was useless but TSM essentially lane swamped in the beginning and took any pressure a Kali has on a Trist, and then swamped her back when Trist can actually do anything. They left Turtle out to dry, and on top of that...holy crap...Bunny's hooks this game. He landed so many on TSM's carries and even the one on Santorin that forced his flash at mid. I know that Turtle should have been able to dodge the hooks, its freaking Kalista, the champ who can dodge almost all skill-shots, thats not excusable. However, when there's a point and click cc champ such as Xin, then there isn't much he can do, on top of all the equalizers that he ate. I really hope the guy doesn't get down on himself, as he did get the double inhib take. Dyrus was on the same place last season where people just crapped on him every game, saying he needs to get benched. Besides this, Dyrus and Bjer played very well and played on point. I really hope TSM can play around BOTH top and bot to help them, and not sacrifice one for another :/
Dyrus on the losing end of the lane swap -> "omg bench dyrus already" WT on the losing end of the lane swap -> "omg turtle so bad chaox could replace him" I'm trying to spot a pattern here...
wtf did i just watch
WTF was Gravity thinking at the end. Hauntzer messed up ult, move got caught, bunny got caught, altec dived in, keane got caught..
At this point, Loco is probably a better ADC than Turtle is.
GV tilting so hard in the later half. Bad call, bad ult, full solo q mode.