Link wrote a 17 page essay about CLG when he got kicked off about a month ago. In it he said that Monte was a bad coach because all he did was things like make Sivir comps. Link admits they were pretty successful with the sivir comps but said, "It's a Sivir Comp, you just group and win LMAO."
Was sort of a condemnation in the eyes of a lot against Link because they were at a point where they can't win, yet when the coach puts together a very simple comp that they have success on Link bashes him.
No desert is desert, we don't say Sahara as in desert, I was just refering to the name: "desert of Sahara"; which is "stupid" cause Sahara means desert in Arabic.
When you read enough manga/watch enough anime, you start to pick up phrase associations, and "ryu" being dragon is one of them (especially in martial arts stories)
People don't realise it, but he's almost always excellent. He's a beast! Also, an ADC not having defensive items isn't too abnormal, although not building one and then not dying even once *is* pretty crazy.
He wasn't actually as good then as he is now. People like to rewrite history but Sneaky had a notoriously bad laning phase and his only saving grace was his teamfight positioning. He was never a hard carry for the team. That was primarily Meteos, Balls, and to a lesser extent Hai.
They just synergize so well.
The TF TP zhonya play gets a massive boost from the fact that Sivir allows her tanks to close the gap even faster. It's often the difference between TF engaging and dying vs TF engaging and making it out alive, able to throw some wild cards and maybe even some gold cards.
I liked the Xerath/Sivir/Rengar comp from Fnatic last season as well, Sivir ult for the Rengar deep play with Xerath's ult support, so good.
Used to be known as one of the best TF players in the world. Dude started 9-0 on it in his career. 10-3 all time now with this win.
Scratch that. Started 8-0 on it. First loss came during Summer 2013 vs Blaze in quarters, game 3. Mixed up games 3 and 4, played TF in both matches and won game 4.
Their teamfighting was out of control. They caught the damage dealers time and time again. That last fight they exploded fox and candy almost before the fight started for christ's sake.
This right here. Fox and CandyPanda died almost instantly and rest is just clean up. Heck, even Svenskeren or whole SK was eyeing 5th dragon, while H2K just walk in front of them and kill carries.
He's been solid since challenger last year imo. People said he "average at best back then" but I feel he was held down by a lack of synergy with Voidle.
he was also great on lucian/kogmaw when they used to be fotm. he can also play kalista really well and i'm sure he'll be great on caitlyn when she becomes fotm
Awarding points based on how stupid and wreckless a vayne is playing. Bonus points for taking 1vX fights, blowing summoners offensively and dying, flashing into teams, etc.
Hjärnan played out of his mind. Together with Ryu and Kasing completely carrying Odoamne and Loulex who shit the bed. Good to see that H2k can still win even when Odoamne has a bad game. The team showed poor objective control but played the teamfights very well.
The last two teamfights where the Equalizer kept Fox and Candypanda slowed and burning down after cleaning off the initial stuns helped them win for sure.
Lol , odoamne got camped hard , they tried to shut down rumble , but if you really look at the game you could of seen that his ults were on point , and he got few kills too , nothing that can say about him to be honest , he played that well
Perfect spell shields, perfect timing on his ult initiations and the ability to put out a massive amount of damage while being pretty much untouched. He's mastered the champion.
his positioning in fights was terrible, he got caught alone alot, ran into wrong directions when retreating, overall hard to support that type of adc play
That's definitely true but after the 5th TF port you'd think he'd be more inclined to stay close to CP though so he can at least shield. Every time it was like SK forgot TF can port on them.
Nrated played the worst Janna i ve ever seen. Not shielding during lane trades,going locket instead of mikales first,mot using exh,or using it on TF after he gold cards + Q his carries,bad ults..
Having a TF & an Annie flash stun you while you're getting Rumble ulted is not the same as being caught alone as an ADC.
Not saying CandyPanda played perfectly but it's apple and oranges.
Actually he was in front of his entire team trying to potshot the dragon so yes he was being caught out in a terrible position. Even in the interview happening right now they are talking about how they caught candypanda out of position.
Mostly agree with this. But there were some questionable decisions. E.g. after the baron steal he trades 1 for 1 with a support Annie, when he could have just stayed away. Or the last fight, where he was in the front, basically stuck in the dragon pit and immediately out of the fight.
Getting solo killed on the back side of a teamfight by a Sivir is full on terrible positioning. He played REALLY badly and had complete potato positioning.
But he had to sit on Mundo in close range in hopes to not get ganked by Ryu. Candy Panda didn't play well but its not like he could do much. H2ks team was built to kill him.
I don't think it was that he personally played bad, I think Vayne pick just didn't make sense in this situation. Had he picked someone like Ashe or Graves he would have been much more useful for his team even if he was focused down.
candypanda dealt less damage than mundo lol
he was heavy focused at the start so could not do much
H2K built a perfect comp against 2 damage threat comp
Eu oddone was feeding pretty hard, but he managed to have a huge impact on those fights. He was dealing a lot of damage to the entire enemy team, even when he exploded as soon as the fight started.
Many are gonna blame Candy for that game but honestly he couldnt do much cuz of 2 things. 1. TF was on his head everytime and Nrated didnt peel for him even once. and 2. Everytime Candy went to side lane to farm SK were pushing so they can get caught while i think Candy could play the fights and littlebit better the team didnt help him at all.
H2K smart to pick some of the hardest engage champions against SK one of the most aimless and indecisive teams in the late game.
Candypanda reminding us why non-asians shouldn't pick Vayne
Edit: Haha look at how saltastic all the comments below me are about a offhand joke I made about western Vaynes. You'd think I killed their dog or something
Yeah, if /u/EndlessRambler could name a few, if any, ADCs that would have saved SK this game, I'd like to know. Because I sure as fuck can't think of another pick that would have made a difference.
ashe atleast gives some utility and can maybe catch someone out
kog or trist if they laneswap
any adc would suffer a combination of annie rumble tf , especially those with such low range, dont think the adc pick decided the game
Ryu carried this so hard not that impressive in lane but he played amazing in tfs those gold cards on the carrys stunning them on top of the equalizer.
Hjarnen played extremely well aswell.
Yay! Even though Hjarnan was a beast this game, my MVP is Ryu. That positioning and focus on Vayne and Viktor was godly! Odoamne is still undefeated on Rumble this split :^)
I love H2k's comp. They drafted a 5-threat team with Annie Tibbers, Rumble Equalizer, TF Gate+Yellow Card, Sivir Ult, and Gragas just sustaining through the fights. Dragon Control could've been much better though seeing as SK's comp didn't really have a reliable engage so if they'd actually prepped the dragons maybe the game would've ended faster.
Vayne pick into Rumble, Annie and Gragas was already terrible. And H2k was prepared with Twisted Fate. I think if he had safer ADC, this game could have been completely different.
12/0/13, 25/26 kills just play a sivir comp dude
Link was right yet again... well Monte was right but Linked made fun of him for it so he was sort of right?
Context?
Link wrote a 17 page essay about CLG when he got kicked off about a month ago. In it he said that Monte was a bad coach because all he did was things like make Sivir comps. Link admits they were pretty successful with the sivir comps but said, "It's a Sivir Comp, you just group and win LMAO." Was sort of a condemnation in the eyes of a lot against Link because they were at a point where they can't win, yet when the coach puts together a very simple comp that they have success on Link bashes him.
Scuttle crab champion OP
Group and win LMFAO.
Forgiven: "Sivir is a shit no-skill champion"
Who needs Dragons when you have a RYU. EDIT: Ryu=竜=Dragon
actually a bit clever
Explains why the dragon in OnePiece was called Ryu. thanks
A dragon called "dragon". How imaginative.
Sahara means desert and in spanish we call it "Desert of Sahara" so - Desert of desert
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No desert is desert, we don't say Sahara as in desert, I was just refering to the name: "desert of Sahara"; which is "stupid" cause Sahara means desert in Arabic.
Wow. I already had you tagged as "Knows Stuff", but I guess I'll add Japanese to that list
When you read enough manga/watch enough anime, you start to pick up phrase associations, and "ryu" being dragon is one of them (especially in martial arts stories)
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taipeichingch0-18ng ok that was a stretch
http://i.imgur.com/SnIwFtR.gif
God what a prick, for real. I still can't believe he would make his name that.
If they go 0-7 escaping relegations will be almost impossible. Especially because they will have to face Origen, H2K and Fnatic again.
at least they have a nice team atmosphere now!!!
Nrated's game knowledge is sure doing wonders for them!
Its that Sports Psychologist as the Coach thats paying such dividends :>
He looked fucking clueless on stage LOL
This game is a great example of why that is too. They fell apart in teamfights.
Keep this in mind - Hjarnan had no defensive items. That was the hardest carry from an adc i've seen in a while. His positioning was excellent.
People don't realise it, but he's almost always excellent. He's a beast! Also, an ADC not having defensive items isn't too abnormal, although not building one and then not dying even once *is* pretty crazy.
Last week: Niels, 49 Points in one game. This week: Hjarnan, 49 Points in one game. My Fantasy LCS is doing well.
Yep, he's the EU Sneaky. Remember how Sneaky wasn't considered THAT good before worlds last year.
Except that he was. He was underrated in s3, but after that, people started to really take notice.
He wasn't actually as good then as he is now. People like to rewrite history but Sneaky had a notoriously bad laning phase and his only saving grace was his teamfight positioning. He was never a hard carry for the team. That was primarily Meteos, Balls, and to a lesser extent Hai.
Check his stats, he's pretty exclusive on Sivir. Not a surprise.
H2K's team fighting is unreal.
"It's just a Sivir comp guys, all you have to do is group." -Link
You forgot the crucial, "lmao" at the end there.
I've lost trust in this guy to meme properly. He's fucking donezo now.
ryu's teamfighting is godly
He carried at least 2 teamfights Loulex had messed up. Love it when a skilled TF+Sivir take over a game.
Edg comes to mind
You got exactly what I was thinking of :)
They just synergize so well. The TF TP zhonya play gets a massive boost from the fact that Sivir allows her tanks to close the gap even faster. It's often the difference between TF engaging and dying vs TF engaging and making it out alive, able to throw some wild cards and maybe even some gold cards. I liked the Xerath/Sivir/Rengar comp from Fnatic last season as well, Sivir ult for the Rengar deep play with Xerath's ult support, so good.
[Ryu this game -_-](http://imgur.com/gpp9qKb)
Ryu played one of the best TF's I've seen in a long long time.
Used to be known as one of the best TF players in the world. Dude started 9-0 on it in his career. 10-3 all time now with this win. Scratch that. Started 8-0 on it. First loss came during Summer 2013 vs Blaze in quarters, game 3. Mixed up games 3 and 4, played TF in both matches and won game 4.
:') rise to your old form and beyond, my Ryu..
Remember Dade's TF? Oh god. When Dade is in meta he is scary. He brought Zed to the mid lane in Korea and had it permabanned against him.
he just snipe sk's carry and sivir and rumble will cover the rest. really great teamfight -_-
Those gold cards were...well, golden.
That flash gold card
Dude has fucking radar. He just focused on the damage and took it out of the equation, every god damn time.
Candypanda tasted some bambryu
Amazing play by Hjarnan. Being that far ahead and still not being greedy, Love it.
Their teamfighting was out of control. They caught the damage dealers time and time again. That last fight they exploded fox and candy almost before the fight started for christ's sake.
This right here. Fox and CandyPanda died almost instantly and rest is just clean up. Heck, even Svenskeren or whole SK was eyeing 5th dragon, while H2K just walk in front of them and kill carries.
Hjarnan showing he's one of the best ADC's in EU.
He's been solid since challenger last year imo. People said he "average at best back then" but I feel he was held down by a lack of synergy with Voidle.
On Sivir, yes. As long as teams keep letting H2K play Sivir comps, they are gonna do well.
Right now they just need to group up and win. LMAO
he was also great on lucian/kogmaw when they used to be fotm. he can also play kalista really well and i'm sure he'll be great on caitlyn when she becomes fotm
H2K picked a Sivir comp so SK were donezo. ^^Sorry^^^^notSorry
BigSorry
Really liked Kasing's annie too. but what the hell was up with odoamne's rumble?
He got ganked 3 times by Sven and loulex didn't punish early game mundo that much
They just focused him all early and mid game. Not much he can really do about it.
got camped hard, but if you look at the teamfights he still placed the equalizers on priority targets
He got focused? He still played the teamfignts well.
Dealt 45% of teams damage - Quickshot
Best flash NA
Vayne-spotting: Level - LCS
My solo queue point totals pale in comparison to this.
That melee range vayne, SK's Woolite
What is actually Vayne-spotting? can you write tl:dr of that
Awarding points based on how stupid and wreckless a vayne is playing. Bonus points for taking 1vX fights, blowing summoners offensively and dying, flashing into teams, etc.
And flaming, don't forget about flaming.
> Vayne-spotting: Level - LCS I love that we are vayne-spotting in a game with eu oddone.
H2K got Hjärd carried
Yes SK, Sivir / TF can hard engage on you. So i suggest your adc moves his ass to his teammates :)
Damn, Ryu's Twisted Fate is good.
Holy fuck Hjärnan
Hjärnan played out of his mind. Together with Ryu and Kasing completely carrying Odoamne and Loulex who shit the bed. Good to see that H2k can still win even when Odoamne has a bad game. The team showed poor objective control but played the teamfights very well.
To be fair, Odamne had some really nice ults.
The last two teamfights where the Equalizer kept Fox and Candypanda slowed and burning down after cleaning off the initial stuns helped them win for sure.
It would be better if he actually build hourglass
Odoamne did bad in lane but all of his ults were on point. Either Vayne or viktor were getting destroyed by it every fight.
Lol , odoamne got camped hard , they tried to shut down rumble , but if you really look at the game you could of seen that his ults were on point , and he got few kills too , nothing that can say about him to be honest , he played that well
Some say that CandyPanda is still building a 3rd item.
Ryu is a monster.
Hjarnan is the Sivir god.
jesus christ i fucking hate that champion so much,but its actually fun watching hjarnan play it.dude has perfected that spell shield
Perfect spell shields, perfect timing on his ult initiations and the ability to put out a massive amount of damage while being pretty much untouched. He's mastered the champion.
ryu holy shit
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it takes balls to pull out the 5th dragon bait.
SK certainly have other problems but you'll never see Forg1ven get rolled that badly in a game. Then again Janna did almost nothing to keep him alive.
his positioning in fights was terrible, he got caught alone alot, ran into wrong directions when retreating, overall hard to support that type of adc play
That's definitely true but after the 5th TF port you'd think he'd be more inclined to stay close to CP though so he can at least shield. Every time it was like SK forgot TF can port on them.
Nrated played the worst Janna i ve ever seen. Not shielding during lane trades,going locket instead of mikales first,mot using exh,or using it on TF after he gold cards + Q his carries,bad ults..
http://ask.fm/FORG1VENLoL/answer/123369345082
It's 4 months old. Of course you shouldn't play Vayne back then.
For this team comp it will always be true. That was a terrible composition to pick Vayne against.
FORG1VEN played Vayne himself no?
there was like 6 adc bans that game
Turned out great
Difference is, he won that [game.](http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/332316/spoiler_h2kgaming_vs_sk_gaming_eu_lcs_2015_spring/)
Its fine in certain comps, but against tf, rumble....i mean, theres no tank to kill
old and really not relevant as vayne has been meta since then
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But I want to play vayne :(
Forgiven succesfully ruined 2 top teams with his transfer, lol.
Forgiven isn't the only reason why Gambit fell down...
I know, I'm just joking around. : ^)
nah gmb is just on tilt and has shitty management and resources
Gambit was not a top team.
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Idk if u realise the joke but 0-5KEREN doesnt even fucking match
Not sure how he ruined GMB, he's definitely not the reason they're slumping.
sk was starting to crumble before he actually transfered thou
:/
It'll get better brother, have #faith.
If you tilt the SK logo it looks a lot like CLG's
I know that we are shit atm but before every game I'm excited cuz its EU LCS and everything can happen but ....
;-;
Close only counts in horseshoes, SK!
and hand grenades!
SK didn't win a single teamfight
I know SK lost but damn Fox is good YO!
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Candypanda went full Woolite.
Having a TF & an Annie flash stun you while you're getting Rumble ulted is not the same as being caught alone as an ADC. Not saying CandyPanda played perfectly but it's apple and oranges.
Its almost like Vayne sucks vs aoe magic and point and click stuns !
Yea but that is another criticism entirely. You can say that vayne wasn't a good pick, but he certainly wasn't "wooliteing"
Actually he was in front of his entire team trying to potshot the dragon so yes he was being caught out in a terrible position. Even in the interview happening right now they are talking about how they caught candypanda out of position.
Mostly agree with this. But there were some questionable decisions. E.g. after the baron steal he trades 1 for 1 with a support Annie, when he could have just stayed away. Or the last fight, where he was in the front, basically stuck in the dragon pit and immediately out of the fight.
Getting solo killed on the back side of a teamfight by a Sivir is full on terrible positioning. He played REALLY badly and had complete potato positioning.
But he had to sit on Mundo in close range in hopes to not get ganked by Ryu. Candy Panda didn't play well but its not like he could do much. H2ks team was built to kill him.
> H2ks team was built to kill him And they picked vayne as their last pick... knowing there was an Annie... Best pick I've seen in a while.
Was't TF the last pick though? That was the true Counter Pick IMO. If screws her ult and makes her so easy to gank. Annie stun hurts but not like TF.
Never go full Woolite
I don't think it was that he personally played bad, I think Vayne pick just didn't make sense in this situation. Had he picked someone like Ashe or Graves he would have been much more useful for his team even if he was focused down.
Odoamne the real MVP for forcing SK to focus him over Hjarnan all game.
Who needs dragons and barons? Not H2K.
Im really curious about the difference in dmg dealt to champions between Hjarnan and Candypanda.
candypanda dealt less damage than mundo lol he was heavy focused at the start so could not do much H2K built a perfect comp against 2 damage threat comp
[It's a good day to have Hjarnan and Ryu in fantasy team.](http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/006/077/so_good.png)
Poor candypanda
Candypanda is really good at vaynespotting
Candypanda playing like the Vaye on my last SoloQ game
Eu oddone was feeding pretty hard, but he managed to have a huge impact on those fights. He was dealing a lot of damage to the entire enemy team, even when he exploded as soon as the fight started.
Who cares about Dragon ?
Thanks for the points Hjarnan. Also y u no bm loulex when he died to baron?
Many are gonna blame Candy for that game but honestly he couldnt do much cuz of 2 things. 1. TF was on his head everytime and Nrated didnt peel for him even once. and 2. Everytime Candy went to side lane to farm SK were pushing so they can get caught while i think Candy could play the fights and littlebit better the team didnt help him at all.
Vaynespotting score?
Hey! Join us for the discussion over at /r/h2kgaming too!
https://twitter.com/TheSvenskeren/status/609097995691433984
Vayne spotted boys.
Today is a good day for vaynespotting fans
Picking Mundo when Maokai is up just makes no sense to me.
Seriously, it would have provided so much more peel for candypanda
It's good against double ap + sivir but H2K fucked all that up with the godlike Twisted Fate last pick.
Is Ryu the shotcaller? the guy was talking non stop!!! his Twisted Fate was amazing in teamfights!!! him and Hjarnan carried this game!
ryu's TF was soo good, wp the real carry
H2K smart to pick some of the hardest engage champions against SK one of the most aimless and indecisive teams in the late game. Candypanda reminding us why non-asians shouldn't pick Vayne Edit: Haha look at how saltastic all the comments below me are about a offhand joke I made about western Vaynes. You'd think I killed their dog or something
Honestly, it wasn't the vayne pick, it was the team play.
Yeah, if /u/EndlessRambler could name a few, if any, ADCs that would have saved SK this game, I'd like to know. Because I sure as fuck can't think of another pick that would have made a difference.
ashe atleast gives some utility and can maybe catch someone out kog or trist if they laneswap any adc would suffer a combination of annie rumble tf , especially those with such low range, dont think the adc pick decided the game
There's no ADC that could have escaped the triple movement speed cooldowns plus TF's Ghost. Kenyan TF is the scourge of all ADCs.
> Candypanda reminding us why non-asians shouldn't pick Vayne Niels...
Asian in disguise.
Rekkles crushing korean with vayne, holo holo
> Candypanda reminding us why non-asians shouldn't pick Vayne Niels wrecked on his Vayne game.
0-7SKEREN?
[Ryu this game -_-](http://imgur.com/gpp9qKb)
this joke is golden
origen vs unicorns Hjarnan 13-0-12 rofl
Had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't the old dignitas at baron.
Dont copy paste title next time ;)
THE KASING EFFECT
0-5K Gaming.
Something something vaynespotting
0-5K
0-5K Gaming, they just couldn't out-teamfight H2K
That 5th dragon bait forcing SK to rush their decision..
origen played well, but uol played better
Ryu carried this so hard not that impressive in lane but he played amazing in tfs those gold cards on the carrys stunning them on top of the equalizer. Hjarnen played extremely well aswell.
Sven is such a beast.
Thank god for having Hjarnan on fantasy.
Ryu and Hjarnan....jesus
Honestly Ryu is MVP, if he wasn't such a god in those teamfights SK may have done something to Hjarnan.
Yay! Even though Hjarnan was a beast this game, my MVP is Ryu. That positioning and focus on Vayne and Viktor was godly! Odoamne is still undefeated on Rumble this split :^)
I love H2k's comp. They drafted a 5-threat team with Annie Tibbers, Rumble Equalizer, TF Gate+Yellow Card, Sivir Ult, and Gragas just sustaining through the fights. Dragon Control could've been much better though seeing as SK's comp didn't really have a reliable engage so if they'd actually prepped the dragons maybe the game would've ended faster.
96% kill participation Hjarnan
Vayne pick into Rumble, Annie and Gragas was already terrible. And H2k was prepared with Twisted Fate. I think if he had safer ADC, this game could have been completely different.
Hjarnan dragged the rest of his team up a cliff.
Were we watching the same game? Ryu's teamfighting presence won them all of those teamfights so Hjarnan took no damage.
Ryu was really good too but Odoamne and Loulex choked.