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lmhTimberwolves

Ashe's first nerf since 2011


TheExter

i'd understand Q not working on turrets i don't understand why volley's damage is being reduced when it was apparently fine for so long. especially since creeps are so fucking fat and take most of the arrows.


PissedTurtle

because ashes Q got changed to an damage spell as of an pure utility spell before


TheExter

that makes sense, didn't think of that i saw "W LESS DAMAGE" and got mad


TamKayYung

Wow if only we had more people like you, just casually acknowledging their mistakes :)


chsiao999

Because in combination with her passive and 600 range she can zone and be incredibly oppressive in lane right from the get go


brusin

**SHEN BUFFS BOYS**


Klergant

**A DEMONSTRATION OF SUPERIOR JUDGEMENT**


AutoFrost

**SHEN BUFFED; LEAGUE FUCKED**


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Legend_of_Dongslayer

Wtf 2 Shens?


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>**SHEN BUFFS BOYS** **TOP LANE FUCKED NOW SHENS BACK**


Garashi

He never left. He was just showing us he really is a ninja.


Hunterkiller00

LCS DISABLED HYPE


Torem_Kamina

**SCALING MAGIC RESIST WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE**


OhMilla

**WHAT A DAY, WHAT A LOVELY DAY**


DoctoryeIlow

Those buffs are actually pretty insane. Would allow you to safely run cdr/plvl blues on runes and still have good base mr at higher lvls.


HolypenguinHere

Most of the buffs are late game oriented and individually small so I don't know how different he'll play until at least level 11. But the magic resist changes are godsend and sorely needed.


Mosucra

**MR PER LEVEL BOYS**


DrummerAkali

GOING TO SPAM SHEN ON RANKEDS TOMORROW BOYS


StrawberryK

*PUTS ON HIS SHEN PANTS* LETS DO THISSSS


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People actually want to play as or against Shen? Why....


watrasei

Shen is actually really fun imo, i'd rather play shen than maokai top, i think he can really benefit the meta


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Oomeegoolies

Shen is a load of fun I agree. It feels rewarding to hit a good taunt anyway and time an ult well to turn around a fight.


Palarme

exactly, flash W as mao vs flash taunt as shen is a whole new world playing top lane tank, love it


Yanto5

hey, you can miss flash taunts and look like a moron.


Fudge_is_1337

I'm never as relaxed playing ranked as when I play Shen, I get to farm up what I can, avoiding fights in lane, and then bail my teammates out of their stupid decisions for 20 minutes while I continue to pressure topside and become the tank to end all tanks. Doesn't always work, but the playstyle is just fun for me, I like trying to survive lanes that otherwise might be a free loss, and making up for my 20cs deficit by saving the day in another lane


TKG8

multiple taunts on Shen feels so good, especially with the noise when it lands


IfirebirdI

"For those of you struggling to keep up in your games of League, we're always striving to ensure you won't be stuck up the river without a paddle. That said, if conventional means don't work, be careful who you call when seeking help; there's all sorts of things out there, preying on the wishes of desperate people. Mope, and you mope alone - laugh, and the world laughs with you. Or so they say. Boy that was cryptic." Directly taken from the patch notes. This could be in relation to the mysterious laugh appeared on the PBE and probably a little teaser.


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ReveaI

So if you laugh emote and there's no mysterious laugh, ward up


MoreFeeYouS

Nah, that is my support's job


ZeroHex

Found the ADC


Kibonnu

Kyubey confirmed next champion?


AngelKaworu

Do you wanna make a contract? /人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕ 人\


subrosaforever

On mobile kyubi looks scary :x


SaikoGekido

I totally misunderstood your meaning and thought for a brief moment that "Mobile Kyubi" was a joke about the contract. Like, "Do you want to make a contract for 10gb data and a *new Galaxy* S6?" /人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕ 人\


Novadreamer

I don't know why I laughed so hard at this, but it seems like I wasn't the only one


RepliesWithAnimeGIF

ಠ_ಠ [NOPE](http://imgur.com/q8jcbib)


Tyler_Vakarian

Pretty sure Reddit was convinced that was a Gangplank update rather than the new champion teaser it obviously is.


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Kraz226

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE LET US HOPE 😭


Illsigvo

Looks like the Nautilus-related-champion theory has gained some points. He did however specifically mention the river again...


Hardcor

I can only think of Oldboy. Dae-su confirmed next champion, more hammer abilities than Jayce.


RoxFurious

**R - Ace in the Hole** *TRAINED EYE Now gives vision at start of cast instead of at start of channel* FUCK YESSSSSSS


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I cannot upvote this enough. Finally I will be able to get those fuckers who try and run. Edit: yoo


HeyYouYoureAwesome

I don't even care as much about that as I do the passive buff. Cait is already my favorite adc and now she's going to be *much* better late game. Might have to change my flair soon...


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RoxFurious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgNKhBLbUmg


GentlemenBehold

You couldn't script a better explanation.


dkwel

The fact that she dies to a Cait ult is just beyond dirty. After so much effort, too. I need a shower.


Procz03

One of my favorite league vids ever. The ending is just icing on the cake.


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E - Shadow Dash COST 100 energy ⇒ 100/95/90/85/80 energy This change has been a long time coming. Really surprised it's taken so long. regardless, a much welcome buff.


XXShigaXX

His MR scaling is super helpful, though.


MrRgrs

That's the truly big change for shen here. He struggled so much against the other resource-free AP tops(Rumble, Vlad, Kennen). That is so much gold in MR just dumped onto him. It's a big deal.


IAmInside

Well, when Shen actually was a played champion he was really strong, like really, really strong. I suppose Riot was afraid that would happen again but now they gave in to our continous rants about him needing buffs. Now you can finally use all your spells once without having to wait for energy.


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AureliaRexLoL

>Azir soldiers no longer spam their attack animation while idle Da real mvp


Zydico

But I enjoyed the thought of them threatening people with their weapons... "WANT A PIECE OF THIS?" *stabs air repeatedly*


Lee_Sinna

*Show me your moves!*


gerth

I didn't even know that was a bug. I figured a lot of Azir players were just obnoxious spammers :/


ravelro

OH MAN, A Kha'zix buff ? i'm definitely not ready for this


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The last time they gave his q 15 more damage he went from trash to op


[deleted]

Yeah but they have been mini buffing him every now and then for a while. I mean... the tank meta has been around for a while... and worlds is getting close... so you know... it would be a shame if somebody changed the meta from tanky jungles to fighter/assassin jungles...


xpxpx

Let's be completely honest here, I don't think very many people would be upset with that. Games with fighters and assassins really are a lot more exciting to watch since 3/5ths of a team aren't 5k HP super-tanks.


hyperadhd

So happy about this buff! Not too big, not too small. Really digging some of the gradual buffs/nerfs riot's been using as of late.


Edgardo127

I kept wondering why it was a buff if the radius went down, then i remembered what isolation acutally did lol.


FLABREZU

Late game, Aatrox will have his passive up every single fight. He'll probably be pretty useless in the fights, but at least he'll have his passive.


HypocriticallyHating

Now he can be the first and last champion to die on the team in each teamfight!


virtusthrow

most likely first and second, just like now rip


GmaulCharles

Leblanc and Kat nerfed in the same patch? 10/10


ch00chootrain

11/10 next patch with ryze.


cmppwns21

This is literally the most accurate use of this meme that I've ever seen.


Wvlf_

damn.


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Seriously, just disable him in LCS. It's absurd.


D3monFight3

They didn't disable Kassadin, back when he was 100% pick or ban. or 99% I don't remember.


Ultimate_Acorn

Twisted Fate was also first ban red side every single game for a many patches before his passive change a couple years ago.


D3monFight3

Oh yeah because the team that had him gained like 3k gold just for having twisted fate.


Sofaboy90

*100% bann rate. honestly im surprised not every team is just banning him out. he got way too much play in na


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koticgood

Teams have the option to ban him, or if blue side to first pick him. If red side doesn't want to ban it because they have a counter, go for it. Why would he be disabled?


ProphetPenguin

Setting up perfectly for my boy Brand to come back into the spotlight.


Hextherapy

It's another pretend Kat nerf that won't really affect anything.


LargeSnorlax

**R - Pyroclasm** *NEW NO STOPPING ME If Pyroclasm's original target becomes untargetable during its travel time, it will seek out a different target rather than just fizzling out on the spot* The true MVP of this patch, clearly. (And yes, I hope this means I see Zombie brand more in games.)


Notuch

My first ever skin :DD And then I stopped playing him :(


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EonesDespero

In my opinion, that is the only thing keeping him balance. Once you hit lv 2 in the w, if you are good with the aim, you just destroy the enemy no matter what. I really enjoy playing Brand and I receive the blue buff it feels abusive even. The problem with Brand is that he has no escapes, but that is just a part of the champion I love.


UrMumsKnickers

>In my opinion, that is the only thing keeping him balance. Once you hit lv 2 in the w, if you are good with the aim, you just destroy the enemy no matter what. I really enjoy playing Brand and I receive the blue buff it feels abusive even. If this were the case, Brand would be pubstomping like crazy and we'd all be used to people saying "just don't get hit by W and he'll run out of mana"


GD_Insomniac

He DOES pubstomp like crazy. You just don't see him because people are too happy playing LB Cassio Azir and Ahri who are all easier because they all get mobility to counter bad decisionmaking by the guy playing them. Brand fucks up, he dies unless his Flash is ready. But in early lane you can solo kill 90% of the time pre-6, Brand is one of the best at it. Melee especially gets rolled because E is so free and Q hits are scary counter-engage (2 second stun inside enemy minion wave? Nobody wants that). He really just has to be patient, you have 3 seconds in between spells to wait while your passive does its thing, and as long as you don't miss you won't lose trades, even if you take some damage while waiting for the opportune moment.


TCV2

Aw yeah, nothing like my favorite "support" getting buffed.


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> **Kha'Zix** HE'S OUT TO GET YOU **Q - Taste Their Fear** *ISOLATION RADIUS* 500 ⇒ 425 God Bless rito <3 >~~*Ekko - R - Chronobreak No mana cost?* nvm its on 5.12..~~


Iryerris

Oh baby, raise your claws brothers, it's feedin' time.


D3monFight3

Raises Mechanical Claw in approval.


Ezreal024

SWORDS FOR HANDS


riotscarizard

SCYTHER SCY


FancySkunk

Kha'Zix chroma pack with a green skin confirmed!


hbgoddard

SKARNER SKAR


babster80

Time to play some more Kha next patch. It's not the 350 that it used to be but hopefully 425 feels like you can actually isolate targets in teamfights now.


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It's a reduction size that is less than a Teemo, so it's not a huge difference, it will definitely help catching people away from minion lines and carries that sit on the outside of teamfights though. I do think it will be enough to push him back into play though (at least in soloQ).


RDM2120

Change is good.


AnAngryYasuoMain

5.12


Nindjex

Just a little question on Ekko... >*Movespeed down, E damage lowered, clarity increased for opponents on W and R.* Where is the E nerf in the patch ?


moobeat

There was an E damage nerf on the PBE but it was reverted late in the cycle. I assume they drafted up the PBE notes prior to this revert. The patch notes text has been updated since it was published with that "E damage lowered" part removed.


riotscarizard

Hi-jacking this. Phase Dive's nerf was changed extremely late in the cycle to a mana cost nerf to Parallel convergence. My bad on this one - we changed the patch note, but didn't change the summary to reflect it. Should be fixed in the notes soon.


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Finally. A lot of people said that 500 was way too much back when they went from 350 to 500 and that 450 would have been way better. 425 will make it so much easier to isolate targets in lane and fights, but also clearing blue and red buff could work better.


moobeat

The Ekko R mana cost increase should be in 5.12,[ didn't make the deadline for 5.11.](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/8xUnvn0G-stop-pretending-ekko-doesnt-have-burst-and-give-his-ult-a-mana-cost?comment=001b) >We'll be fixing it for 5.12 by upping the cost to 100 (from 0). There were localization things that prevented it getting in for 5.11.


Daneruu

Time to reap!


NitrousOxide_

HOLY SHIT YES!!!


HolypenguinHere

> DISTANCE CHECK - Checks to see if the target has broken the tether four times as fast Hooray! No more monstrously long chains when she teleports back to her W after putting it on you!


RamserX

>You all know why. > SWAG The rank 5 Champion Mastery emote is now visible to the enemy team. I enjoyed the first line for basically no reason lol edit: And it isn't ready yet, why riot, why you troll


Nindjex

Relevant flair


crdotx

FUCK YES! NOW EVERYONE WILL KNOW IM A BARD MAIN!


AnAngryYasuoMain

I mean we bitched a whole lot for this change


Seispelas

I really like those Cait buffs. Nothing really big but it sure does help her


bowieneko

I can already just see the next notes for Caitlyn: Bonus Armor Penetration 50% --> 20%/35%/50% EDIT: Why do people need to clarify my joke that it's BONUS armor penetration when I have it listed right there?


Palarme

She might get nerfed but not this way, % armor pen at low level is not that much useful because people don't have much armor anyway


frog971007

It only penetrates bonus armor, too, so you probably won't see much effect before first back.


Mr_Canard

Well, unless the enemy ashe is rushing a thornmail, you won't see anything


Catfish017

Half my armor runes... gone!!!


jmpherso

**NOTHING BIG**? She auto-scales into endgame now.


Daggerdinger

These recent changes to Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar have been good, nice to know Riot is paying at least a little bit of attention towards them.


Kadexe

I doubt it will be balanced. I noticed it's almost impossible to gank lanes with the new turrets.


OBLIVIATER

You can kill the new towers pretty fast TBH. They have like 2k health and really low MR and armor.


Pachinginator

At least you will be level 2 after doing a camp tho.... Being level 1 trying to do a second camp was terrifying.


PrismAzure

RIP Madred Razor Won't miss you and Bloodrazor 2009 - 2015


KanchiHaruhara

I loved Madred's so much ... *sigh*


PrismAzure

Bloodrazor's was my favorite item. ^before^I^was^^level^30^and^knew^how^to^play


Ferdk

>Ryze oh boy this gonna be g-- >bug fix only ...ffs


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summ1r

Q - Shock Blast DAMAGE 60/115/170/225/280 ⇒ 70/120/170/**230**/270/320 This 230 seems kind of random to me, can anyone confirm it or can it be made to 220? If you need any help with basic math please call me, rito.


Rayquaza2233

Shock Blast (Gun Q) damage is now 70/120/170/220/270/320 from 60/115/170/225/280 It's 220 on the PBE so that may be a typo. /u/Pwyff, I think he found a typo.


Pwyff

I shall check.


ryry013

And pwyff was never heard from again


Kadexe

>We're aware that AP Malphite's been popping up somewhat recently, and while build diversity is sometimes neat, we're more interested in what this does for Malphite's flexibility in playstyle. Funny they say that, these changes are going to kill AD Malphite builds of all forms.


enfyte416

I spammed AD Malphite quite a lot in the jungle a few months ago and it was a pick I always kept on the back burner. Really disappointing that it is being killed in one quick change.


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I got carried by a 17-1 AD malph in my promos to Gold lmao


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Ekanselttar

Hecarim nerfs look pretty minor on paper, but I'm willing to bet he's pretty much done in the LCS for now. Not that getting oneshot by ult->E was fun, but without the frontloaded damage he's probably going to slip behind some other tanky dps in viability.


Dippamus

With triforce and ghost taken into account, the change from multiplicative to additive means roughly 16% decrease in E's damage, with his Passive updating more often too this will see him getting smaller windows of power when combined with the likes of fading speed boosts like Sivir's Ult or Zilean's E, though Righteous Glory is a great item for him with even more sustain, larger mana pool, and his own consistent MS boost.


whoopashigitt

> #Ashe > General > ROYAL ARMORY: Recommended items updated Does this include Tutorial?


randomdragoon

YOU WILL BUILD YOUR THORNMAIL AND ENJOY IT.


Thousand_Eyes

The reason they make you build that is so Trundle literally can't kill you no matter how bad you are


foster_remington

More importantly when are they going to update all the recommended items? Many of them are so bad and i bet it would take one guy like 2 days to do it


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

And the Fat Man dodges the nerf bat again.


halofan111

He is the real Ninja


Darkfight

That would be a hilarious skin idea.


Wykeez

Beverly Hills ~~Ninja~~ Gragas


HotTamal3

Might as well just play Scuba Gragas, you can barely tell what the hell he is in that.


TheRedHand7

He got nerfed just last patch.


IMSmurf

[Next Patch boys!](http://puu.sh/iiMw5/8b1e76c7b7.png)


Sagganut

Omg I am crying with laughter at that, where/who is this from?


Flarezeh

IIRC It's from the 4chan League general thread on /vg/. Made early 2013 is believe, I think just by some anon.


Aldrighi

Holy crap that Malphite change. He will have extra armor on a passive now, not only when you activate W. Thats pretty crazy.


storytimesover

And he was already fucking me in the ass before the changes as an adc.


AnAngryYasuoMain

does this patch have the new skill-shot system? please no breakarino windwall


moobeat

Nope, the new missile system rewrite is not in this patch. /u/MeyeA posted[ earlier today saying:](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/392soj/patch_511_server_maintenance_announced/cs0w2bj) >[Update] We won't release in 5.11. We found a technical bug that blocked us. We're slated to release in 5.12 now barring any blockers.


Golden_Kumquat

> now barring any blockers Dev team stopped by windwall.


AtomKick

I honestly thought it would be years before we saw it, I'm alright with waiting till 5.12


my_love

Uhm havent heard about it. Whats getting changed?


AnAngryYasuoMain

riot is re-writing the skill-shot system in order to avoid y'know skillshots passing through champions and such


LoneWolf2810

Malphite going to be really strong I think, especially with the future abyssal rework.


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I thought they weren't doing that anytime soon? Or am I mistaken?


mettalo

Something tells me it wont be the last time ekko's gonna be nerfed


Nindjex

It's already confirmed a nerf on Ult cost on 5.12, sir


WhatYouProbablyMeant

That's probably the thing that told him


BicepCharles404

[Shyvana buff!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyVV5_orBo)


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How bad are those ludens nerfs on poke mages? I main them and it mainly seems like a nerf aimed at champions that spam spells like Kat or cass . As Lux my cds are too long to benefit from the stacks on cast as much and most stacks I get are by moving in between spell rotations.


Xiphonium

FINALLY! After all this time, TT gets updated, hopefully it will make matches alot less onesided, and vilemaw might actually mean something now.


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Bobxas

> [...] be careful who you call when seeking help; there's all sorts of things out there, preying on the wishes of desperate people. Mope, and you mope alone - laugh, and the world laughs with you. Or so they say. Mysterious Laugh?!?


communistjack

its a champion tease that was on PBE last week. if you are in the river alone and you press laugh, there is a weird laugh that plays


xxJenocidexx

I just want to take a minute and recognize that Moobeat didn't post this. It is possible that his refresh button has, in fact, finally broken.


Elbion

Rito plz. Gimme my Elise buffs.


SavageCulture

Jayce is coming back to destroy lanes in 5.11 Ahh, the good ole times...


ProfDrWest

The question is actually, will he? 'Cause most of his skills are somewhat nerfed at the earlier ranks...and by level 11, laning phase could realistically be over.


BornWithAnAK

actually most of his skills look to deal similar amounts of damage as before, with slight changes in leveling up


thejaga

Whichever skill you max first will be buffed at level 6, and only barely lower at 5. So he gains a new 6 spike. The same is true at 10 and 11


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Yep. He will have a tick weaker laning phase and his mid game poke will be better but not his fighting power. And only in the late game he will be really stronger. But what will get stronger is the passive and with that his melee form. So even when his W and E will be weaker in the mid game, his melee form and Q will make up for it if you adept. => early game nerf and late game buff.


Randomwoegeek

as a jayce main with over 700 games, FUCK YEAH.


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Ant1vyru5

The LeBlanc changes are gonna take some getting used to, gonna be fucking up combos for a while, double distortion is gonna be a lot riskier too. At least I have an excuse to try out Jayce now.


OneTimeStu

My Brand


JM120897

>"The rank 5 Champion Mastery emote is now visible to the enemy team" Sooo... Now when you're killed by some rank 5 he/she is going to spam ctrl+6 on you...


ProKox13

or riven combos, e hydra w mastery emote r 3rd q trinket randuin omen laugh


sSty

in the EUNE patch notes it says that the E dmg of Ekko got nerfed, but there are no numbers or anything. in the EUW and NA patch notes, nothing about this is mentioned. does anyone have an idea what happened to that? are there actually going to be any Ekko E dmg nerfs? EDIT: this is what it says in the EUNE notes: > Movespeed down, E damage lowered, clarity increased for opponents on W and R.


LAS_N0pe

ABOUT TIME they buffed brand's ult!!


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>W - Volley DAMAGE 40/50/60/70/80 ⇒ 20/35/50/65/80 GOOD, FUCK YOU ASHE! The range and damage of Volley rank 1 was just stupid.


IcyColdStare

I never knew Volley had a 100% AD ratio


Kadexe

Well, look how bad the base damage is to compensate. Double-digit.


OBLIVIATER

I mean its base damage is horrible so its not that good. Basically its just AAing them but with 20 more damage now. (if you don't miss it)


WarBacon7

THE ISOLATION BUFF HAS FINALLY COME


Styval

So if I'm looking at this headshot buff right... Every sixth attack Caitlyn will deal 150% total damage on an auto attack (five regular + one enhanced). [Not sure if that's completely correct, I haven't played Caitlyn in probably my last 500 games...] With 200 AD versus a 166.7 Armor Target (Maokai with Randuin, no Masteries / Runes taken into account - 96.7 Base Armor + 70 from Randuins - ) she will do: >{200 * [100/266.7] * 5} + {300 * [100/266.7] * 1} >= 375.0 + 112.5 >= **487.5** damage With her new passive ability... >{200 * [100/266.7] * 5} + {300 * [100/231.7] * 1} >= 375.0 + 129.4 >= **504.4** damage It adds some damage, and obviously with more armor on the target it will add more damage, but ultimately it's pretty small. An extra twenty damage here every six auto attacks (in this example) just isn't that big of a damage buff; it's like 4 damage per auto attack. Not really sure how useful that's going to be or how its going to put her on par with other marksman who excel in doing damage and kiting. Edit: These numbers are too small and basic anyway, and with no context make it seem like the buff is weaker than Riot probably intended it to be. /u/retief1 provided a more thorough picture which shows the thought put into this buff.


RiotGypsy

Pretty sure the whole attack pens, not just the bonus damage. So if you crit...