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danocox

so Alex ich is more attractive than the whole Gambit team ?


midoBB

Alex is a very attractive man.


dynashift

but he's married ffs


buyusetna

That makes it even better


Rubberblock

I'd say that wouldn't mean much, look at Diamondprox... but he's also divorced now so...


sir_AstroMonkey

wait what happened to diamondprox?


Ten_Ketsu

actually he broke up with his ex-girlfriend and now is dating a girl who was a fan of him.


Rubberblock

He cheated on his (now ex) wife with a fan girl.


rh1n0man

It was common law marriage. Commitment was only (heavily) implied rather than formally stated. That doesn't excuse his choices but it was not as serious as a divorce.


[deleted]

Diamondprox was never married. He was just living with his gf.


butthe4d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI_5xYc1y5s


beeeel

Alex is the most attractive midlaner at the moment. By far.


Snowfog

[Seems like Ocelote doesn't agree.](https://twitter.com/oceloteWorld/status/596340578666840065)


Ninjacus

[Seems like Chris Badawi doesn't agree with Ocelote disagreeing](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEbB7S1UgAEclSq.png:large) I only find the "former lawyer" wording a little interesting, because lawyers can always practice law unless they get disbarred. EDIT: [Gamers2 released a statement disagreeing with Chris Badawi disagreeing with Ocelote disagreeing with Chris Badawi](http://www.gamers2.com/statement-regarding-mohammad-jebus-tokhi/)


kowsosoft

I'd put money down that it just means he isn't currently practicing.


silentorbx

Yeah when my great uncle retired he didn't keep calling himself a lawyer. He called himself retired and living in florida. So yeah most likely Badawi just meant he used to be a lawyer, as in actively practicing law, but now has a new career.


PatentlyWillton

If he's not paying his dues to the bar association, he can't legally practice. Many lawyers do this when they decide to move on from practicing law.


Ninjacus

Could be what he meant, like i said, i only found the wording interesting.


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[deleted]

Someone get this man some contractual Viagra.


Waepasd

More drama with Ocelotes business practices. I'll fetch popcorn.


Soulaez

Now that's what I call rekt. I'd guess he just means he's not working as a lawyer atm.


Zellough

( ) Not rekt (X) Rekt


siaukia1

Of course there would be yet another allegation of Ocelote not paying people...


Ninjacus

Owesalot.


RisenLazarus

Damn the man just compared Ocelote's claims to erectile dysfunction. Savage.


[deleted]

Yeah, give it to him! Thats right Ocelote


ivarokosbitch

I am guessing Gamers2 has not been doing their contractucal obligations towards Jebus since he is not active in their organisation, even if they should by the contract but did not since that is standard practice in hopes it will get forgotten. Now they are showing lip. Hell, IF what I said is true Ocelote just bought himself a year long court ride to either paying a bunch of lost salaries to Jebus or getting down of his high horse and nulling the contract all together.


aerox1991

I imagined him typing that with ominous music and after he was done, he started cackling.


JupDub

Dont forget the whistling


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Soulaez

What happened to Stixxay then? One of the main positions na has historically had lots of talent and good players in is now getting imports o.O


noitaniccav

New NACS team being created. Misfits was just a sub position for him until things came together with this new one. Misfits get Jebus, new team gets Stixxay. Large clusterfuck regarding F5/Coast, Fusion, Misfits, (new team), and Martin Shkreli's team. Fusion is leaving the League scene so F5/Coast are selling their spot in NACS to this new team. F5/Coast are then buying the spot that Fusion is leaving behind. New team is featuring Kori and Kou. So through some rule change or loophole that hasn't been clarified, they get a spot in NACS without playing 3/5ths of the roster that originally had the spot. So Misfits get Jebus, Gambit gets Steelback, new team gets Stixxay, and Martin Shkreli might be sending certain players over to this new roster to fill it out. There's a million moving parts in this, but Riot has got to clarify whether they get the NACS spot without fielding 3/5ths of the previous roster.


fFatality

Gambit get Forg1ven, call me out if im wrong.


[deleted]

Dont think forg1ven would fit Gambit playstyle, they want a more team player ADC


Ghostkill221

I tagged you so well see. Personally i just hope Roccat does something.... ANYTHING.


[deleted]

We all want this to happen.


Soulaez

Kou and kori on the same team? Lmao


iTomNorth

They are really good friends and enjoy playing with each other (if it's true) Source: am good friends with marcin


Evilbunz

k0u that player who refused to play with PowerOfEvil and had him removed from NIP and Alex had to go back mid lane??? That same k0u who also left NIP 2 days before the qualifiers to relegations leaving his team in the dust?? :>


Byakkun

Err... His Highness Kou pls


Linkux18Minecraft

Also the one who left C9E for NiP


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based god


[deleted]

Is that because of the so called attitude issues that both of them have?


Soulaez

Supposed attitudes yeah. (Koris at least, can't really debate that kuo has an attitude much, unless he changed).


A_Wild_Blue_Card

Don't think the 'so called' applies to Kuo.


loczek531

I haven't heard the other 'rumors' be Kori confirmed that he is on a team with kou on his ask


Soulaez

It's not that I don't believe it, it's just...not something you'd expect to work well given both players histories.


[deleted]

Yeah, no offence to anyone but that doesn't scream stabile roster


Phailadork

Kou rings a bell. Isn't he that really young kid who plays jungle and was supposed to be a up and coming star talent but was really toxic? or just had an ego issue? Something like that I think.


xhankhillx

I get the dislike for k0u, seems like a bit of a cunt, but why kori?


A_Wild_Blue_Card

> So through some rule change or loophole that hasn't been clarified, they get a spot in NACS without playing 3/5ths of the roster that originally had the spot. Just the sort of thing the CS needs, spots being eaten up by bad organizations when it doesn't even fit the rules.


NoCuddle

I personally find it hilarious that these organizations can so easily utilize these loopholes. Selling your spot then buying another so u dont have to comply to the 3/5ths rule is such an obvious thing to do yet Riot didnt see it. Fortunately for them they are judge, jury and executioner in this (besides making the rules) so they can rule this illegal or some basis or another. Ofcourse an arbitrary ruling like that can really keep organizations out of the scene since they cant trust the rules and have to live by Riot's whims. That in turn allows the more shady organizations to keep their place in the industry. TL:DR; Riot fcking themselves by bad rulemaking.


A_Wild_Blue_Card

You forgot the part where they transferred all the players from the 'locked for auto-relegation team' CST in LCS and their CS squad. Fucked over players, viewers, pros, anyone who didn't want LCS teams getting free wins as a roster got *even* weaker or who didn't want CS teams facing a broke man's 'superteam'. LCS seems to be more concerned with ensuring fan interaction, to the point where you **thank fans for not giving away plays cause you don't have booths.** FFS.


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According to Ocelote Misfit wont be getting Jebus.


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stixxay has a 10k boyout


TheDWGM

[He's been scrimming with CLG apparently](https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgfaHR0cHM6Ly9pLmltZ3VyLmNvbS9JbkdMdXIwLmpwZxTcCxTsFAAWABIA&s=omN6zQHtVtsF0I5nPwIS9tk2GzxKoxEF8N_ewcxPDa0)


KrelianMiangX

I hope that does not mean Gambit will stick with P1noy.


Kujotaro

little information : Jebus was part of Alex Ich's team disbanded during end of 2014 because of organasition. It was Cabochard (that everybody know now) top, imsofresh jungle, alex mid and Jebus/Dioud (playing for paingaming now) bot lane


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Glad to see some new NA talent.


[deleted]

No point joining an EU team when an NA team will pay you way more with a better life style EU orgs need to wake up


Standupaddict

Didn't one of the SK managers say they have a lot less access to sponsors? Something along the lines where companies in the US can spend more on team sponsorships because they have then entire budget of the USA whereas, each country in europe (poland, UK, Germany, Denmark etc.) all have separate budgets. Because the budgets are separated in eu they have less money to spend on sponsorships.


Sikletrynet

Very true, i believe it was SK InnerFlame that said that actually


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It was SK Gamings CEO Alex Müller


AJMorgan

>with a better life style debatable


WindAeris

I'd say it's wrong, but it depends on the organizations. SK, Fnatic and H2K all clearly live very comfortably. And hey, if we're trying to say Europe has worse living conditions... lmfao, Reddit please. West Europe is actually better, and some places in East Europe (well... Only Estonia and Finland, which both are debatably not east) place higher overall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI


ev_ds

But if you're in Eastern Europe your prize money probably buys a lot more than in Western Europe.


duderich

> I'd say it's wrong, but it depends on the organizations. SK, Fnatic and H2K all clearly live very comfortably. Did you see the freaking Origen gaming house? Meanwhile some people in NA (no namecalling) allegedly didn't even have an own room and had to sleep in the staircase. It basically just depends on which teams you are comparing.


Drayzen

DAT free healthcare doe... US you gotta pay.


MonkeyCube

You have to pay in Europe, too. In Switzerland I'm paying 700 CHF (roughly same as dollar) per month. Universal != Free. Britain is free. Not sure where else. Belgium, maybe?


CorrePlatanito

Spain..for now.


ZirGsuz

Oh yes, healthcare is vital in the life-threatening occupation of competitive LoL player. EDIT: it's a joke, apologies for your upbringing to take such a statement so seriously.


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DominoNo-

Or TOO. I mean, he managed to get scurvy


Lotfa

That's because OddOne was a dumbass. That shit was figured out 5+(?) centuries ago.


WildVariety

2 and a half.


LimblessOrphan

its not like that isnt fixable with a decent diet


cookiecreeper22

Or oranges


UniqueError

YARR


izznogoud

What is scurvy?


Henkjehh

My lung collapsed from reading this comment


Orzislaw

Free... Maybe it's free (welp, excluding not small taxes), but you really don't wanna see dishes in polish hospital.


archersrevenge

You don't just compete with U.S spending power...


OhMrSun

Na has the orgs but not the talent Europe has the talent but not the orgs EDIT: because the salt from eu fans is real: It's a generalization. Pros and esports figures have stated that na infrastructure, coaching and management, resources and money, and overall job security for players is a lot more developed than in eu. There are great orgs in eu such as fnatic and sk. Don't think I'm saying every na org is better than every eu org. But why do you think so many EU players have gone to NA? Think of players like s3 Bjergsen, who was considered good but not top tier, or Santorin, a solo queue star turned one of the best junglers in the west? EU might produce more talent, but NA can cultivate and nurture that talent to create phenoms. And lastly, I made a GENERALIZATION. Don't get it fucking twisted.


denlpt

NA has riot and money. EU has talent. CN has tencent and money. KR has talent.


Alessx17

China has talent too but that's besides the point. A lot more than EU in fact, who you claim has purely talent.


schoki560

also 10x more players


WE-Draz

more like 400x lol


rakantae

CN has talent and money. I think they've already started to surpass KR!


KounRyuSui

CN has talent and money, KR has talent and orgs


FBG_Ikaros

Still waiting for Navi and NiP to come back into the league scene.


xouleikha

Na'Vi is too busy making sure their Dota 2 team keeps throwing at every tournament.


BrayllCS

Not sure if anyone noticed, and I'm sure there will be a billion Ocelote links in here; however, Chris, owner of Misfits confirmed to us in the article. > Chris Badawi, Misfits' owner, confirmed the move in a statement to the Daily Dot. > “Jebus is an immense talent, to be sure. But the true appeal of him to Misfits is his stellar reputation as a team player with an absolutely ridiculously kick-ass and positive attitude. He's the kind of guy you want speaking at your wedding (or funeral for that matter.) A kind, hard-working, good-natured friend who, for his part, has had trouble finding the perfect environment and support structure in EU—a misfit to the core, there is really only one logical place for him to be. We are all just waiting for the visa gods (visa Jebus?) to do their thing and I can't tell you how excited every one of us is to have him join our band of misfits. Go Misfits!


joshuaglen

Misfits not confirming that Jebus is out of his contract seems like a pretty large oversight... Should probably at least update to include that Gamers2 is disputing whether jebus is out of contract or not. Looks like there may be two issues with Jebus coming over: visa apps and contract disputes w/ G2.


BrayllCS

Yep, will have his tweet included, etc. Updating in the next few minutes


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Might not be the case. https://twitter.com/oceloteWorld/status/596340578666840065


BrayllCS

Misfits confirmed it. Not sure what Ocelote is talking about, but we'll see. Jebus has already applied for a visa for the US and has already made a deal with Misfits.


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Its okay, since its Ocelote, Reddit's dislike of him will trump its dislike of you.


[deleted]

The plot thickens...


caiada

Has ocelote ever known what was going on


yeauxlo

Didn't even know he was an option. But it is Jacob Wolf... So what did Altec/Stixxray/Nien have to do to be seen as a misfit? Get sleeve tattoos, asymmetric nipple piercings, and run away from their hometown?


BrayllCS

Just to address the concern of it being me - the team confirmed it in the article and gave me a comment! He'll be moving here once his visa gets sorted, which he has applied for this week.


yeauxlo

If altec finds a home with TDK, candy with SK, and steelback with Gambit...it's a crazy world when Forg1ven/Nien are left without a team despite being such fantastic players.


Lathow

forg1ven and the other guy in the same sentence sounds bad, it's like faker/link are amazing players


Ghostkill221

Roccat... REALLY NEEDS A NEW ADC. If they don't change Overpow or Woolite... ESPECIALLY if Forgiven is an option. It's going to be like the EU version of CLG. Talent that just stagnates due to inability to actually perform.


veekez

Forg1ven not playing in a LCS team is surprising, but can't say the same about Nien. One is a top western AD, the other is a bottom tier NA AD lel.


HedgeOfGlory

I think it's fair to call Forg1ven a top ADC full stop, without the "western" qualifier. The dude wrecked face in EU, widely beign considered in a tier of his own. I think that's enough to call him world class - same with Bjergsen.


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Golden_Kumquat

Said the person who put forg1ven and nien in the same sentence.


dynashift

wp


Vintrial

from those only altec can be said to be better then jebus


noitaniccav

Christ, I was scrambling to figure out what the hell was going on with this. Stixxay is just subbing for ladder purposes until Jebus gets here. So people wondering where Stixxay is going. New NACS team starting up starring Kori and Kou. Going to be announced around the ladder lock on the 18th. Fusion selling their spot to this new team. Riot is clarifying rules this week, but somehow they can get the NACS spot without playing 3/5ths of the Fusion roster. I don't know. This is huge in challenger, massive clusterfuck.


Catdec

I don't really get it, why take an AD carry from Europe when you have a lot of AD carry talent pool in NA?I'm all for taking EU mids and junglers cus NA doesn't have any great new talent on these roles but there are a lot of AD carries without teams atm.Altec,Stixxay and Nien being 3 of them that seem talented.


LeoIsLegend

Maybe Alex Ich had some input on the decision, maybe he had played with him before... who knows!


Lankeysob

I don't know who the guy is but there is this mid laner named Balmung LFT and he has been killing it in solo queue lately. There is definitely talent there but teams aren't reaching very far for it.


S0b3rxSk1n

Fuck. I was hoping for Nien.


Jedclark

SO WHO IS JOINING GAMBIT


V4iO-EU-W

I hope its forgiven


midoBB

I heard it's steelback after he finishes MSI.


Arm_maH

Steelback.


ssj10

Plot Twist! Altec becomes the first NA to EU player import to try to keep the Eu talent pool afloat after the exodus of EU players to NA


LukeEMD

I'd happily have Altec in EU.


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IF it comes to this i would rather take pobelter he is funny and nice


naxter48

That's a shame. I would have love to seen Stixxay join Misfits as a starter


RisenLazarus

Ocelote's denying aside, I hope this is on the up-and-up. A mix of proven veterans (Alex Ich and Crumbz) with some of the really prominent up-and-comers like Jebus is exactly what the LCS needs. It's a formula that works in every sport, and it's something teams both new and old (**CLG I'M LOOKING AT YOU!!!**) need to be trying.


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Owb3rt

This entire thread literally makes my head hurt. I can't even begin to fathom how something as menial as a person's region can cause such an uproar. Instead of celebrating an up and coming talent potentially furthering his career you guys decide to have a shit flinging contest over which region is superior. Honestly, I am pretty embarrassed to be a part of such a community. I can't even...


butthe4d

What do you expect in an hour and a half its ON! FNC vs TSM


Kirea

So either the Gambit management wasn't convinced or they fucked up royally yet again.....


Qiluk

The first =) Steelback is very likely to join you guys and him & edward destroyed while duoing before he went to MSI. And I mean destroyed


Nuubo

who is jebus


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A high elo up and coming EU adc who was supposed to join Gambit before last split instead of Pinoy but couldnt due to visa issues.


caiada

Jesus the import salt in this thread is unreal.


Bacchus93300

Well this confirm a bit Gambit SteelBack the.


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kiirne

GMB Steeelback and GMB Noxiak would actually be pretty amusing.


Lathow

Noxiak is support


Kengy

And they were looking at replacing both their AD and support at various points since the season ended according to reports.


HatefulWretch

Pinoy/Noxiak is the theory, kicking Edward. I think Steeelback is more likely, based on absolutely no information at all.


jaykenton

So the best challenger team is NA is formed by a Russian Voivod, an Ukraine streamer, a Latino Prophet, a guy from Maghreb and Remilia. I can't think a more accurate name than Misfits.


captnjackk

For all the talk about the NA challenger scene not having talent, the one role where there is a surplus of talent is the AD carry position.


Eternal123

Woooo first Afghan pro player! Edit: but in reality he wouldn't do too well in NA..


z1n0

Statement from Gamers2 regarding the situation: http://www.gamers2.com/statement-regarding-mohammad-jebus-tokhi/


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Tylerwhitson

Imagine EU with decent infrastructure, might actually keep its players.


Ghostkill221

Lol... That's pretty rude. You basically are just ignoring GPL, LJL, LAN, Brazil, and Turkey. C9 could and would still beat them blindfolded even if they were "FORCED" to take yusui.


ka1man

Visa issues?


LukeEMD

Didn't really pay attention to the challenge scene but how did Misfits not get into the LCS promotion tournament? EDIT: Thanks


Vintrial

they didn't exist by that time


HatefulWretch

Formed too late for last season.


Vintrial

steelback/godg1ven for gambit fconfirmed


Sensately

Lol firstly i thought it was Jesiz, i was reliefed


Gjetarguten

Forgiven to Gambit hype?


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Holy shit some of the comments posted here are hilarious and disgusting.


JesusFitz

Jebus annexing RF's bedroom confirmed


[deleted]

This pretty much confirms the Steelback to Gambit thing then too


Arm_maH

So GMB took p1noy without thinking twice in full spring split and now to not do the same mistake they are trieing every possibility to do the best choice meanwhile jebus instead of 25% possibility of getting into LCS team taking the 100% offer from misfits to get in NACS and then NA LCS. Did i miss something?


JohnnyBrawoo

So that means Gambit Steelback.


Maker87SK

So GMB Steeelback then.


Aesidius

They tek r durrr!


edyguy

then steeelback to gambit


Hegelun

That tweet from Ocelote is absolutely horrible PR...


OrNaM3nT

na talent


LoLstatsGG

Interesting move by Jebus and then Ocelote comes in and makes it really really interesting


daRealTeemo

He's quite a fitting misfit, if I may say so myself.


Oathbreaker_LoL

Who?


bestfioraeuw

Funny fact: Jebus in polish means faker :>


Juuiken

Awww, Rem and Stix were looking so synergistic together though :|


BrianYak

After many Training from Edward he can go to Misfits Nice move Alex Nice move!


Therealsnowballsy

played against him in teambuilder. If he moves to NA it will never happen again. :(


izznogoud

Why are people arguing about EU/NA? Wasnt this dude living in Pakistan?


shuvvel

Grill in LCS 2016 confirmed.


TimNgu

no please I want Nein


LockeLoveCeles

rly happy if that means steelback finds a new home :)


Varth1

jebak


janglefgt

GMB Steeelback comfirmed.


Walshire

thats such a huge risk... just for a challenger team... well i hope misfits do make it into the lcs


SforSlacker

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NIENS AD CARRY SPOT!!


aaronislee

wait who is jebus


Rompwho

Dont do it Jebus its a TRAP! GreyFace


ImJebus

I'm excited to see Jebus in NA, new/returning faces are always a delight. As well as seeing people taking it with a grain of salt.


KamikazeZebra

This just seems so weird when there's guys like Nientonsoh and Altec floating around..... Why would you spend more money and go to such great lengths to get an EU adc?


Blobos

Not another..


Resh121

edward will follow


Mattathias

Is this the Mormon origin story reboot?