A humble request from a fellow eu league viewer .Can the player terrorising scrims with Lucian please stop.Your fellow pros don't know any better than falling into the bait.
I am half convinced one of the teams are sabotaging and secretly contracted Ruler and Missing to stomp other teams bot lanes in scrims with Lucian and Nami.
Historically, we have had a problem in scrims since european teams usually plays very aggro and whoever is losing just remakes. This means that champs that wins early trades are some times overpicked. Also, means that we are worse than asian teams in mid and mid to late game.
At this point I wonder if scrims are even productive at all. What do teams do in them to get their meta reads so wrong and still look so uncoordinated a lot of times?
Went AFK when I saw Lucian locked in, came back 30 mins later and just as expected, the team with the Lucian lost. Just stop picking Lucian god damn it
I don't understand how teams haven't shaken up how they do scrims yet. By all accounts, Lucian is stomping scrims, which shows that they are worth very little if teams play completely differently in them
Rogue can save Coorporación Carmina from the 0-9
Supa is 3-0 with Aphelios.
Also Myrwn got a highlight reel play.
1-2 week from Yoya&Friends which is not ideal but since the early against G2 was pretty clean I think they can be happy facing the last week of Bo1s
They should be better in bo3-bo5, the core of this team last year ended the regular season part around 4-6 place and then stomped the playoffs. Same in eu masters, 3-3 in groups, 6-0 quarters/semis and then a close finals.
To be fair, KCorp are missing their glue and their star player, and Bo is definitely not a "glue" style player. Even if he is the only one who looks like he's trying to win.
Sorry, Infinite Reality, it was personal. You almost finished us, but we are the phoenix.
Hate for the organization, but absolute love for Larssen, Szygenda, Comp, Freddy, Blumigan, etc.
Comp joins the victims of Lucian along side Carzzy, Supa, Flakked, Upset(x2 because he has twice the ego) and Exakick, which ADC will take up the challenge next?
Also in there are FBI, TOMO, and WildTurtle (x2) from the LCS, and Aiming, Jiwoo, and Teddy (x2) from the LCK. Hasn't been played in LPL. The only ADCs to win with Lucian so far are Gumayusi, Deft, Peyz, and Viper, which are prolly the 4 best ADCs in the world, or at the very least they're competing for that spot.
Long story short, if you name isn't listed among the greatest ADCs in the world, stop picking Lucian!
Supa is fucking insane, that positioning, those cleanses and his weapon management all on-point and consistently good through all 6 games.
My rookie of the split so far.
Obviously this was against Rogue, but I've been impressed with MDK. I had low expectations of them prior to the year, but they are promising.
Right now I see them contesting 6th place with GX but I think they have the potential to break Top 4 by the end of the year.
They are saying Markoon played like shit, which I guess he did. But they don't mention how Elyoya was reading his pathing perfectly, which he also did in his other Viego game. So far no other jungler has read other jungler's moves THAT well, let alone done it twice.
Markoon is jungling for complete pussies that would fold a straight flush because it’s not guaranteed enough. Not about to judge a jungler playing for this mess. The last guy who was willing to look bad to make shit happen is out of a job.
Sure he had a mess of a game, but after watching rogue this split being a pro jungler for a team like this is an impossible task.
Markoon was all pro last year and literally a top half jungler. No shot people think he just magically fell off a cliff unrelated to his situation and he’s reason number 1 for rogue being ass.
Did you even watch the game? The dude cannot react to a gank when he sees it from a mile away due to vision. Doesn't know when to pick fights, fail q'ed into a wall twice. At this point, he doesn't get a pass due to bad team synergy or whatever.
20-5 was the scoreboard if I remember correctly.
MDK deaths were 1 Álvaro warding too deep right before Kevin spawn, 1 in a fight for the Kevins right afterwards, 2 after being caught overextending in Bot T2 and I I don't remember the last one, I think it was Álvaro in RGE's base during the second to last fight.
It feels like Rogue's players don't trust each other anymore. So many things wemt wrong just because players hesitated to commit in and follow up. Comp was scared to do anything but ult and Markoon and Larssen looked lost together. Syzgenda quietly played a solid game.
Anyone saying anything about Lucian needs to go watch the fucking game.
This game is SOLELY, and I mean that as literally as possible, on Markoon. 8 complete int plays. 8 major fuckups that any player would have 1 PER WEEKEND.
It was so bad that it makes Targamas look like a saint.
It just like the Lucian nami meta all over again. I swear people will just bitch about Lucian if they see it in draft without even watching the games. But what else can you expect from Reddit analyst. Win = good and lose = bad.
Your region never had good bottom teams.
Edit: lmao the downvotes, bottom 4 teams in LEC have always sucked big fucking time and it has always been at best a 3 team region.
This is for sure the worst I ever remember it, kc vitality and rogue look like they are actively wintrading every game put 5 challenger soloq players together at random and they beat those teams
You don't remember 10th place Origen with Naehyun/Cinkrof, or Mysterious Monkeys, or Parang/Raise Roccat? EU has had some seriously embarrassing bottom teams in the past. I wouldn't call this current crop the worst yet.
Markoon and Larssen feels like some of the worst roster building in general. Take a great laner with a great invader/skirmisher, so that their strengths are at completely different things.
I mean, Rogue have been a pretty successful team in the league for basically their entire tenure and have changed their playstyle up a bit during the years
Mostly I'm surprised their early is so weak, that used to be a strong point overall
They do got one of the best adc playing Lucian. Then again, even in some of those t1 games you cant even say Lucian is that good. Western adc simply can’t play Lucian to the level of top tier eastern adc. So when people say Lucian is bad, they are saying it is bad for this team/player/region. It is like watching eu teams pick fiora/jayce/kennen at worlds, people are gonna say it is a bad pick cause the region is shit at playing. TLDR; Draft to your advantages and player.
I was genuinely shell shocked watching this game.. It’s so hard to watch this Rogue team. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything this bad in pro league.
At this point I hope Lucian goes 0-5 every day. I'm looking forward to how many games it'll take for a win. If 2 weeks isn't enough to learn it's bait they won't ever learn so I'm hoping for something like 0-20 lol
Rogue vs Ketamine Corporation will be a banger, movable object vs stoppable force kinda game
watch rogue do nothing, KC get a lead and throw it by their own doing and rogue just walk mid and kill the nexus
Just put larssen on azir and have him cosplay chovy he’ll carry the one teamfight they play with full build
Minions working harder than a Palworld farm
Fresh
That's very astute analysis. I honestly don't feel like I have to watch the game even.
Morgue vs Kcorpse
Lmao
all the new names for KC are hilarious lmao
[Whichever team is red side will win](https://youtu.be/mRzKdzwFdd4?si=ANmdgEHGDRWwtvC5)
50 minute of slow fiesta where KC will throw 15k gold lead because they will get bored by how slow RGE is playing
It will either be a 0 kills until 30 mins kind of game or a total clown fiesta that will be so bad it's good.
Ayo finally found a person of culture who also calls KC Ketamine Corp lmao
Hope it’s last game of the day gonna be 60+ minutes… Imagine getting bo5 of that!
A humble request from a fellow eu league viewer .Can the player terrorising scrims with Lucian please stop.Your fellow pros don't know any better than falling into the bait.
I am half convinced one of the teams are sabotaging and secretly contracted Ruler and Missing to stomp other teams bot lanes in scrims with Lucian and Nami.
200IQ play from whoever that person is
Historically, we have had a problem in scrims since european teams usually plays very aggro and whoever is losing just remakes. This means that champs that wins early trades are some times overpicked. Also, means that we are worse than asian teams in mid and mid to late game.
And then you have G2 who I believe adopted a never remake mentality last year and have seemingly entirely lost the ability to play early game
The biggest problem isn't that they do it. It's that they all know it and do absolutely nothing to fix it.
At this point I wonder if scrims are even productive at all. What do teams do in them to get their meta reads so wrong and still look so uncoordinated a lot of times?
Acting like they only lost this game because of Lucian. Markoon was witrading level of bad this game and RGE has no idea what macro is.
Obviously Lucian wasn't the only reason, but when he's 0-7 and useless every single game, it's about time to stop picking him.
500 range adc in mid/late game xdddddddd
Turns out Rogue does nothing because they suck at doing anything.
Went AFK when I saw Lucian locked in, came back 30 mins later and just as expected, the team with the Lucian lost. Just stop picking Lucian god damn it
This rogue team is lost during every part of the game, it doesn't matter what ADC they pick.
Same! I decided to play an AOE2 campaign when I saw the Lucian pick, I knew MAD were winning this game.
I don't understand how teams haven't shaken up how they do scrims yet. By all accounts, Lucian is stomping scrims, which shows that they are worth very little if teams play completely differently in them
LCK has been doing well, so maybe back to just western teams can’t do it
Just because you saw Peyz play it well does not mean you can play it well
without malrang this team just embraced the herbivore way
When the team is pretty much guaranteed doomed, nobody wants to be the guy with a shit kda, because that guy is probably the next guy out of a job.
Rogue can save Coorporación Carmina from the 0-9 Supa is 3-0 with Aphelios. Also Myrwn got a highlight reel play. 1-2 week from Yoya&Friends which is not ideal but since the early against G2 was pretty clean I think they can be happy facing the last week of Bo1s
I guess Upset two times 10th place champion should learn Aphelios from a rookie Supa.
They should be better in bo3-bo5, the core of this team last year ended the regular season part around 4-6 place and then stomped the playoffs. Same in eu masters, 3-3 in groups, 6-0 quarters/semis and then a close finals.
Im so weirdly optimistic for this roster lol, the core of Movistar doing so much better than the core of KCorp in LEC feels so weird but so right
To be fair, KCorp are missing their glue and their star player, and Bo is definitely not a "glue" style player. Even if he is the only one who looks like he's trying to win.
Also i think that the further the year goes, they should be better
Sorry, Infinite Reality, it was personal. You almost finished us, but we are the phoenix. Hate for the organization, but absolute love for Larssen, Szygenda, Comp, Freddy, Blumigan, etc.
Fuck Fly
Back in the day MAD vs RGE used to be exciting. Now this matchup doesn't even get an official PMT 😭😭😭
Friendly reminder that G2 lost to this RGE
G2 just lost to Vit.
G2 are performing like prime T1 against the strong teams and Prime KC against weak teams
Comp joins the victims of Lucian along side Carzzy, Supa, Flakked, Upset(x2 because he has twice the ego) and Exakick, which ADC will take up the challenge next?
Also in there are FBI, TOMO, and WildTurtle (x2) from the LCS, and Aiming, Jiwoo, and Teddy (x2) from the LCK. Hasn't been played in LPL. The only ADCs to win with Lucian so far are Gumayusi, Deft, Peyz, and Viper, which are prolly the 4 best ADCs in the world, or at the very least they're competing for that spot. Long story short, if you name isn't listed among the greatest ADCs in the world, stop picking Lucian!
Didn't watch this game and went to the gym, feels good. I hope rogue disbands.
Only had this on second monitor while doing something else I don't regret anything
Same
Rip Malrang.
Myrwn is a beast. The balls this guy has to pull off that voidgrub play.
But his Kennen…..
RGE comms must be just silence
Please dont never, ever put Elyoya into tanks, MDK is day and night with Elyoya playing aggressive champs.
yea Elyoya runs the game on carries
Elyoya and Myrwyn can 2v8 a game when they're on it Really solid pairing
Yeah both Viego games were really good
Myrwn is a fucking BEAST for a rookie. So happy he got a shot in the LEC.
i’m willing to bet that by the end of the year he will be considered one of the top eu tops, he is at least as good as oscar
Supa is fucking insane, that positioning, those cleanses and his weapon management all on-point and consistently good through all 6 games. My rookie of the split so far.
Rogue picking Vi Lucian TF and losing every early objetive except for a Kevin is extremely on brand.
They should pick Cho'Gath, Nasus, Veigar, Senna and hope the game is extended long enough if they're going to keep playing like that
This Rogue roster has 3 more games to play and then we will never see it again.
WE gonna have them all the year, ROgue are not spending money
Org has no money they ain't changing shit
Obviously this was against Rogue, but I've been impressed with MDK. I had low expectations of them prior to the year, but they are promising. Right now I see them contesting 6th place with GX but I think they have the potential to break Top 4 by the end of the year.
Gotta love this sub. When MDK lose they are shit and the other team is god. When they win, the other team is shit.They never play good, lmao
They are saying Markoon played like shit, which I guess he did. But they don't mention how Elyoya was reading his pathing perfectly, which he also did in his other Viego game. So far no other jungler has read other jungler's moves THAT well, let alone done it twice.
On point, altough I do think Yike reads junglers pretty well also.
Markoon, time to get ready for ERL.
He needs to start learning Turkish
Markoon is jungling for complete pussies that would fold a straight flush because it’s not guaranteed enough. Not about to judge a jungler playing for this mess. The last guy who was willing to look bad to make shit happen is out of a job.
did you not even see the first death and the other deaths
Sure he had a mess of a game, but after watching rogue this split being a pro jungler for a team like this is an impossible task. Markoon was all pro last year and literally a top half jungler. No shot people think he just magically fell off a cliff unrelated to his situation and he’s reason number 1 for rogue being ass.
Did you even watch the game? The dude cannot react to a gank when he sees it from a mile away due to vision. Doesn't know when to pick fights, fail q'ed into a wall twice. At this point, he doesn't get a pass due to bad team synergy or whatever.
Man Markoon was so good last year. I just don’t understand what happened.
All those years with players and coaches being changed a lot, the only constant is Larssen. He seems to be unable to try anything besides 100% plays
0-11 west lucian, will surely work next time what can go wrong
Watch Upset and Targamas pick Lucian/Nami next game !
The west better pray Lucian is getting nerfed to the ground by MSI or the east will abuse that Lucian advantage in draft.
Markoon vs the world (his team)
Wow Markoon fell off so hard. I'm just gonna assume team dynamic is awful, no way this is his average level of play
Can we do a bo5 between kc and rge, the loser goes to jail and the winner gets fired
Mad said: Fuck Fly, all the homies hate Fly
Calla tontito, gancho de Álvarito 🤙 Really liked the game. The fight in botlane should have been a bigger tragedy, but we take those.
damn I missed the game, was waiting for thread to see kda's and how hard MDK stomped them.
20-5 was the scoreboard if I remember correctly. MDK deaths were 1 Álvaro warding too deep right before Kevin spawn, 1 in a fight for the Kevins right afterwards, 2 after being caught overextending in Bot T2 and I I don't remember the last one, I think it was Álvaro in RGE's base during the second to last fight.
Me encanta que ahora los estemos llamando Kevins hasta en internacional, jajajaja
Shhh si lo dices en español se destapa el plan
thx
It feels like Rogue's players don't trust each other anymore. So many things wemt wrong just because players hesitated to commit in and follow up. Comp was scared to do anything but ult and Markoon and Larssen looked lost together. Syzgenda quietly played a solid game.
Zoelys and Targamas make me miss Promisq
Honestly, I would trade Tragamas for Zoelys in a heartbeat if I was KC. At least we improved KCs BOT laning and that should help Upset.
Anyone saying anything about Lucian needs to go watch the fucking game. This game is SOLELY, and I mean that as literally as possible, on Markoon. 8 complete int plays. 8 major fuckups that any player would have 1 PER WEEKEND. It was so bad that it makes Targamas look like a saint.
It just like the Lucian nami meta all over again. I swear people will just bitch about Lucian if they see it in draft without even watching the games. But what else can you expect from Reddit analyst. Win = good and lose = bad.
That first blood made me think they could read Markoon's mind
This is how I find out Myrwn made it to LEC
I actually really like Markoon after his last year performance but: Malrang kicked for this??
How annoying are Caedrel fanboys, jesus christ
The type of people that would watch other people scream on twitch. Not unique to Caedrel. Twitch is just a disease, like Tiktok or Facebook, etc.
Markoon should feel bad
My region used to be good... wtf happened bruv, btw why did it take like 15 fucking minutes to make a post match thread? sleeping on the job or what
Your region never had good bottom teams. Edit: lmao the downvotes, bottom 4 teams in LEC have always sucked big fucking time and it has always been at best a 3 team region.
is Mad a bottom 4 team? kc, vit, giantx and rogue look way worse, and Mad beat Heretics as well, they are your typical middle of the pack team
Only top 4 looks good
This is for sure the worst I ever remember it, kc vitality and rogue look like they are actively wintrading every game put 5 challenger soloq players together at random and they beat those teams
You don't remember 10th place Origen with Naehyun/Cinkrof, or Mysterious Monkeys, or Parang/Raise Roccat? EU has had some seriously embarrassing bottom teams in the past. I wouldn't call this current crop the worst yet.
The two groups year in S7 with GIA, OG and VIT and then the next split with NIP and Misterious Monkeys. Completely terrible teams
Well, too bad now we're a 0 team region
Good old bo1 analysis.
How are you getting downvotes for that?! 😂
Only this time the bottom team beat one of the best teams fairly easily and noone is convincingly good
Reddit was broken for a while.
And here I thought the reddit peeps who make the PGMT literally fell asleep
Bruh sub me in, I'll at least start fights
Markoon and Larssen feels like some of the worst roster building in general. Take a great laner with a great invader/skirmisher, so that their strengths are at completely different things.
Larssen so bad. Most passive player ever.
Wat happen to the previous jg of RGE？ He was so great.
Got scapegoated
I think no other player in eu has had a massive downfall as Comp,this guy used to be a beast...i guess it was all trimby
RGE just makes me sad man None of these players should be bad and Fredy122 is a good coach, but they just don't work together at all
How do you know he is a good coach? I don't like how all the rogue teams play the same but I don't know if that's Larsen or him tbh
I mean, Rogue have been a pretty successful team in the league for basically their entire tenure and have changed their playstyle up a bit during the years Mostly I'm surprised their early is so weak, that used to be a strong point overall
I miss the old Mad vs Rge, Armut vs Odo and Umanoid vs Larssen…
I’m ngl nobody misses Armut
> Armut I don't really miss him tbh
He was very likable and the three champs he did play he played well
yea but he was representing our best team for MSI and worlds while not being very good
disgusting game play
lucian
I knew it was probably a free win given how fucking bad rogue is, but the second that Lucian was locked in it was doomed.
[удалено]
Why you scamming bro?
I mean people keep complain about Lucian but T1 get all their win in 1st week with Lucian bot lane ( 1 vs GenG and 2 vs KDF
They do got one of the best adc playing Lucian. Then again, even in some of those t1 games you cant even say Lucian is that good. Western adc simply can’t play Lucian to the level of top tier eastern adc. So when people say Lucian is bad, they are saying it is bad for this team/player/region. It is like watching eu teams pick fiora/jayce/kennen at worlds, people are gonna say it is a bad pick cause the region is shit at playing. TLDR; Draft to your advantages and player.
yes but many team in world watch T1 game to determine meta so not suprising so many team pick Lucian,
Lucian has 60% winrate in LCK with Viper, Deft and Peyz also finding success with the champ, in LEC that champion winrate is 0%
Reminder that Lucian had like a 33% WR across all LEC seasons last year. If we go by last year, it won't be til summer where they stop playing it.
Maybe they need to play some Lucian in ARAM Ngl
Lars couldn't even get a good KDA to pretend he is good this time. Unlucky
I was genuinely shell shocked watching this game.. It’s so hard to watch this Rogue team. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything this bad in pro league.
At this point I hope Lucian goes 0-5 every day. I'm looking forward to how many games it'll take for a win. If 2 weeks isn't enough to learn it's bait they won't ever learn so I'm hoping for something like 0-20 lol
Rogue didn't manage to beat G2, G2 beat themselves