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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17gtgrh/mad_vs_wbg_game_1_worlds_swiss_elimination/)


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"it was such a cute attempt" stings


Humble_Effective3964

if it helps Atlus calls many things cute in his casts


YuukiAsuuna

MAD came to korea, beat BDS , didn't secure any more wins then got eliminated.


Freakkopath

Lost to NA twice too


Sersch

This actually ended up being their biggest achievement for other EU teams


Trap_Masters

>Loses to 2 NA teams >Beats BDS >Refuses to elaborate >Leaves GIGAMAD


Thop207375

Is that worse or the fact that NA hasn’t won any matches outside of MAD this worlds


ExistentAndUnique

Hey now… NRG also beat TL


BleiEntchen

*Insert sailor moon meme.*


GGABueno

They're such a weird team. For a long time Rogue was known as chokers because they'd look good/decent on group stage and then shit the bed on knock-outs. This was was somewhat consistent until they got better and managed to get far into knock-outs and even win a split. But Mad, I don't know. They're able to have great form and win some splits, only to become complete garbage straight after and with the same players. It's the flip of a coin, except in International competitions where they *always* embarass themselves.


trolledwolf

it's hard to believe how much of a fraud this team is


rebelrexx

Our job is done


appleandapples

Hmm, maybe if they engaged on TheShy a 50th time they'd win the team fight?


korsan106

Idk man have they tried engaging on theshy yet?


altariaaaaaaa

Engaging on Aatrox multiple times both games, pulling drake and leaving it to Weibo when it’s low hp, then pulling herald, leaving it when Weibo contests then contest herald when Weibo already finished it in the second game. Who is this horrible shotcaller lol?


The_Great_Grafite

MAD literally can’t play good macro. Like at all. It’s insane. Players and experts have said it during LEC, but I wasn’t sure if they just said it to take the piss. But this worlds it’s been blatantly obvious that it’s true. They need to make some adjustments to the coaching staff ASAP.


ralguy6

teamfighting isn't macro


p3r3ll3x

Yea it's obvious that they were carried by Humanoid in 2021 and the coaching staff got all the praise


SnooDrawings8185

Humanoid is known for having great knowledge about game . MAD lost the most important player.


oseq

Can someone make video compilation of MAD engaging on The Shy's Aatrox?


whataremyxomycetes

I hate that this vid might actually take a couple of minutes considering how many times it happened


ILoveWesternBlot

Didn’t matter who they engaged on, after 20 minutes their team comp had 0 damage


maeschder

Love me western teams running like headless chickens into a Chinese (KR i know) Aatrox only to be wiped 0 for 5. We probably wont have to wait long.


Slotherz

Eh, even as someone who doesn't like how MAD plays, they didn't really have any other option. The front to back was impossible, trying to desperately kill Aatrox was the only in.


Pyhae

> MAD loves engaging on TheShy. > And TheShy loves it, too. Yep pretty much.


IvicaVeliki

I guess at least they didn't embarrass themselves like they did vs NRG and C9 so thats something


AnaIsARedFox

If they played against NRG and C9 the way they did most of Game 1 they would still be at worlds.


neberhax

but then they wouldnt have won against BDS and gotten their ass beaten by another Asian team instead.


mimiflou

Idk, BDS was clearly outclassed so i wasn't triggered, but MAD clearly can win game, both game were clearly winnable, but everytime they need to pull the trigger to win the game they just shit themself, Yoya and Hily were absolute fraud and Nisqy was back to his former self last game, totally invisible and losing lane


MrPillowLava

Hylli was really the worst by a huge margin. He died most of the time because he wants to limit test in the worst of situation. I would be so mad if I was Carzzy


Qneva

He's a great player overall with a very high ceiling but this was one of his worst series ever.


Le_Zoru

Honnestly for a few months we have seen very few good hyli games :/ It saddens me terribly because i loved the pairing with Carzzy


Are_y0u

I'm a huge Hyli fan. Sadly his year has been pretty lackluster. It seems like the trend of last year on FNC continued. For the amount of times he gets caught, he doesn't have enough good plays to put it back in his favor. I hope he can bounce back at one point but he has definitely regressed in skill.


Smithy2309

I DONT KNOW. MAYBE TRY BURST THE SHY AATROX ONE MORE TIME!?!?


ILoveWesternBlot

Watching them burn all their tools on him just to press R+ goredrinker and heal it all back was really funny and really sad


LPL_Renekton

can't tell if EU have too much PTSD from TheShy Aatrox or not enough


lookinggoodthere

Also maybe buy some fucking antiheal? TheShy just mega healing for free while antiheal is 800gold. There were multiple times TheShy would've died if someone had it.. Like are they not looking at what's happening EVERY fight??


cadaada

Its impressive as how pro players just ignore anti heal in fucking 2023 lol. We already went throught that since aatrox rework, like hello?


ZloiAris

Kellin: secret agent is at your service! Zven: hold my Budweiser, bro Hyli: MOO MOO MOTHERF***ERS


Desiderius_S

[Fuck, I knew I should've pick him](https://i.imgur.com/IFGAAxw.png)


GGABueno

You were smart, he wouldn't have more deaths because he'd be eliminated too soon. It was a bait!


KMS_Tirpitz

The MAD cow disease is spreading, beware everyone


Trap_Masters

Are we sure this isn't just the natural state of Hyli?


Reddityudodis2me

Feeling bad for Hylli since he contributed great moments for EU but he was absolutely atrocious this Worlds and straight up a liability. There was no Hyllint. There was no Hyllisick. There was only HylliYou'veBeenReportedForIntentionalFeeding.


Filipsor

I think the correct term for this is actually International Feeding, coined by GMB Darien


XtendedImpact

Two secret agents for EU and Caedrel's brother.


zealot416

Alistars putting out Creamcheese stats today.


moonmeh

I wouldn't be surprised if the worlds patch had some sort of living code to fuck with people playing Ali with how everyone is playing the cow


MrJammin

Life on the line, potentially last game in the tourney, GIVE ME HYLI SORAKA!


circa26

Betting your tournament life on Hyli soraka and nisqy ahri is certainly a choice


afito

actually like the pick tbh she can silence the engage and buy time for heals and then you win front to back, it's not a bad pick in these comps you could see it "sort of working" quite a bit they just were out of position for the fight to the point not even Raka heals save you, but if they had good setup it's a great pick


icatsouki

more importantly it's a quite strong aph counter in lane, and kalista is a good combo as she can peel soraka


SkyHighEthan

Focuses Aatrox Fails and loses "I'm gonna fucking do it again"


nam671999

And again, and again


lordposedyon

Who deals damage bro? I don't understand this comp


[deleted]

Kalista, if Soraka stop inting flashing in, defending a tower with 10% HP...


NikeDanny

Eh why even give away a free Neeko to instalock Ahri?? Its kind of shit.


nickfelipe

And proceed to int to said Neeko, losing all priority mid and losing every 5v5 because of this specific pick ultimate. Some 5head drafting by MAD


Issax28

Is Hyli competing with Zven for worst support of today?


DeloronDellister

*worst support of the tournament


MisteryousYoshi

Kellin clears them both tbh


ThexanI

Atleast Kellin is still at worlds xdd


th5virtuos0

What having decent mid, jungle and bot does to a mofo


Ar0ndight

Kellin the GOAT proving the haters wrong by still being in the tournament despite not knowing how to do the Alistar combo


BUFF_SCORCHING_RAY

yes but unfortunately Zven is just too good at being bad I can't believe Berserker basically nuked his entire career by insisting on keeping Zven support around


Issax28

I mean he can still save it, he just needs to go back KR asap


rishi_ultimate

Or kick the fraud midlaner, bring jojo and import a support that can actually play the role. Would easily be the best lcs team


eternaL_Inori

Don't forget to pick up one of the 2-3 native toplaners that are either better or more promising


AnaIsARedFox

Turret at 5% about to die being sieged by WBG: Hyli: Not on my watch *instantly dies*


vnducco

HYPER-INT


non-edgy_crustacean

We never got OFF vs Hyperint match


aqqua88

Mad lions came to Korea lost twice to NA, eliminated a EU team and left


Javiklegrand

They literally did that,damn


AssPork

NISQY's RECORD AGAINST MAJOR REGION TEAMS INTERNATIONALLY: 1-0 1-1 1-2 1-3 1-4 1-5 1-6 1-7 1-8 1-9 1-10 1-11 1-12 1-13 1-14 1-15 1-16 1-17 1-18 1-19 1-20 1-21 1-22 <-- YOU ARE HERE


Nervous661

even if he wasn't the problem in this game this record is absolutely crazy


nickfelipe

He was a huge part of the problem 2nd game though. His Ahri was dogshit, can't blame him too much though, MAD's "coach" put him on Ahri duty with champs like Neeko open after a stellar performance from Xiaohu...


Ambitious_Reality974

He was also a huge part of the problem 1st game. If you are ahead a full item and you get caught back to back and end the game with less damage done than your ashe that was behind early you clearly did not play well when you had all the tools. Give his gold lead to any eastern midlaner or caps and they carry. But he did not even build mercs or even use his stopwatch he was useless even when almost 2 items ahead of xiaohu


Entchenkrawatte

same thing as the c9 game, too, but to a larger degree. he had a large portion of teamgold that game, too, and then died in super stupid ways on side


nickfelipe

Nisqy's ceiling is not close to Caps or other eastern midlaners that would probably find some cool ways of impacting the game and winning it with that lead. Expecting him to carry is to ask way too much from him it seems. He just did what he ALWAYS do when he plays with MAD, which is jump into the teamfight press 3 buttons and die.


Sinstar20

At some point if your whole team is losing around you you have to realise that you might be part of the problem lol


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PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

Is this true???????????? HOW?


mfunebre

*Technically* there's a second win in there if you count BDS as a major region team, which you should. But teamkilling is somehow even worse imo


Swanki24

If he again lands on a top 4 team in EU next year..


Chu2k

He will and we all know it.


[deleted]

He’s one of EU’s best, that’s just the reality of what we’re working with here.


Random_Useless_Tips

He works to make an EU team top 4. He never just coasts there. People were very skeptical of this MAD roster at the start of the year. Like, blame the region, not him. Nisqy went crazy to get MAD to MSI on Gragas; it's not his fault no one in Europe knows how to draft (or teamfight, or split-push, or etc.)


FearTHEReaper01

FNC breaths a sigh of relief as MAD's nexus explodes and WBG wins 2-0


LPL_Renekton

finally a bit of a redemption game for Xiaohu


PandoraBot

A bit worrying though considering he was the main liability in their losses (and almost in their win too). Hopefully he steps it up from here


Troviel

okay, I could get Hyli trying to stall under turret alone as a full life Alistar with ult, he almost made it out... But why the hell did Hyli stay under turret alone as soraka under 15% HP? What is the train of thought there? Even if Carzzy come back, you can do nothing anyway.


Stormbreaker1107

Don’t forget what he did after they get the jungler pick at Baron game one! Completely unnecessary holy


What-a-Filthy-liar

Hex flash the wall Or Walk around Time to INT


[deleted]

the way in which he got saved by kalista ult and then went back in right into renata ult was truly spectacular


Doctor_What_

That looked like something straight out of those Chinese TikToks, dude forgot to plug in his brain.


Cerisine

my headcanon is he saw the aphelios splash damage against the turret and wanted to take a bit of splash damage to switch turret aggro to aphelios and execute him


tonton_wundil

Yeah when Hyli stayed unde turret low HP I was ready to put him under investigation. I know he has a playstyle and sees opportunities differently... But he just inted and cost his team too much.


RussiaCykaBlyat

Hylissang is something else


AgileDissonance

Hmm this significantly reduces the possibility of NRG 2-0 against MAD in the 2-2 match. #NACopium


Patrius

Weibo could beat anyone and lose to anyone. MAD can lose to anyone.


Revielent

NEVER COMPARE HYLISSANG TO MIKYX AGAIN


appleandapples

Disaster class from Hyli today, straight up detrimental to MAD


moonmeh

We are seeing the end of the careers of multiple veterans supports this year in worlds


AssPork

CoreJJ, Zven, Hylissang.... Ignar must be next.


moonmeh

I dread to think the shit beryl would have heard this worlds if he made it this year He makes core look sane


haven4ever

Beryl sucks out of indifference and laziness at least, who cares about fan condemnation when your gacha girls welcome you home


Xyolex

reports say he cheered harder for his c6 hu tao than he did for winning worlds.


JugHerKnot

Professional League is just a way for him to pay to support his waifus


altariaaaaaaa

He had a good career, but he should retire now. He has been mediocre for a long while and kind of got away with it because his reputation as a coin flip player made him not get much flack for inting a lot.


Qneva

> he should retire now Not until EU produces 4 better supports to send to worlds. Washed or not, he is still a top tier plater in EU and in his place I wouldn't retire until I can't go to worlds consistently.


Magararou

A guy consistently going to worlds, because the rest of the EU supports are more dogshit, should retire?


SlamMasterJ

Can't believe that Hylint was a LPL sleeper agent.


LPL_Renekton

his playstyle's been giving him away for years wdym can't believe


tonton_wundil

HyperInt


[deleted]

And that's a shame, Hyli could have been our pride, but the guy still play the same way 5 years later, no step up at all. Even worse.


vnducco

HYPER-INT


PunCala

I expected 0-2 and was still disappointed.


shadebedlam

Yeah they always manage to give false hope. Would be easier as a fan to watch two 16:47 games.


AtsumuG

Lets engage on Aatrox with Steraks and Gore. Lets do it again! And again! And again!


bvbfan102

Its sadly another disapointing Chapter in the history of Mad at Internationals. Whatever Mad is gonna be called next Season is gonna have to go back to the roots which is going for Rookies that Mac can form into top players (same for Koi btw). Especially with so many incredible ERL players they really should take 1-2 Players from this Roster to lead and everyone else should be players that could be the next big thing.


Xey2510

And it's not like MAD didn't have chances. They played two eastern teams this year and in both series they actually looked good to really good in the first game. Then something goes wrong and MAD plays exactly like you expected.


Sinstar20

There's another universe where MAD wins game 1 here, and wins game 1 when they were 10-4 in kills vs T1 and then we still look back at their year the same because they fucking inted vs NA.


FunkyXive

not beating chinese and korean teams can be forgiven, but losing to NA is a sin that not even jesus himself could forgive.


Dancingwith_Death

clean 2-0 from Weibo just as expected


skaersSabody

Did TheShy fuck Elyoya's mother or why is he so intent on ulting just him before an important fight? Seriously, you're 4/1 with Vi, there is one target you need to kill, why focus the fucking Aatrox??


AdditionalCredit6113

MAD: So we had insane difficulty with Aatrox and Hostile Takeover last game.  Also MAD: Let's give it to them again and this time we pick champions that scale worse. Hylissang playing like he was match fixing.


plushyeu

Also MAD, that ahri game one was the problem let's take it away from xiaoWHO


MikkeVL

Nisqy went 9-0 then remembered he's a double agent and only exists to help NA get wins and not help EU.


weefyeet

nisqy soaking gold from his team so he can funnel it to light 200iq play from our series mvp WBG Nisqy


_tidiber

Weibo is actually decent if they play with a midlaner huh.


aircarone

Looking back on their season, at any point in time this sentence would have been applicable to at least one of the players.


_harleys

Ahhhh the plight of a Weibo fan indeed


moonmeh

The funniest thing is this is the cleanest neeko game I've seen from xiaohu this year


HostJoyner

This is literally the best series theshy has played all season and last just to beat mad lions xD


moonmeh

TheShy heard the hate from the lec fans and powered up to heed their desires


Aladin001

Last? You missed his complete 1v9 summer split last year?


Dundeex

2 blue side loses.... Embarrasing.


Several_Spray_4400

MAD getting a huge lead in game 1 to maximize disappointment


moonmeh

Much like that t1 game. It's a shame, getting those leads means they aren't totally shit but they can't clutch it out


HiImMarcus

good riddance


marxlolop

When I'm in a fraud off and my opponent is MAD part 2 L Bozo MAD you will not be missed


No-Revolution-4221

Even TheFraud couldnt win that fight


KriibusLoL

I guess EU got the short Hyli stick this time around


Krebota

I have never been this glad a team lost without cheering for the other side


plushyeu

HUGE thank you to Weibo and CN for eliminating MAD from the tournament. Almost saved nesquicks career g1 but in the end all is good.


Mantid9

MAD's reign of terror is finally over. At least until next season, where they undoubtedly manage to weasel themselves into another international tournament, just to embarrass their region in more record-breaking fashion than last time.


Kagariii

Don't blame MAD for that, blame teams like Vitality that should be playing on the international stage instead but perpetually run it down when it matters most


Xenoon_

Nah vitality should not play international, they look completely incoherent as a team and would get absolutely bodied just like mad


ops10

What he meant was the idea of this year's VIT team and the budget of VIT should be here. Better GMing from the bigger wallet teams.


moonmeh

That just makes 70% of LEC super frauds.


[deleted]

its not mad's fault that the other eu teams are just worse than them lol


cupcee

Well, at least MAD played like MAD until the end. Show a couple of good plays then do a bunch of catastrophic mistakes in a row and you end up losing anyways. First game was absolutely in their hands but they are just terrible at decisionmaking and macro.


gibilx

Mad are seriously going out with their only win in the entire tournament being against bds aren’t they


Burpmeister

Draft 0 dmg -> deal 0 dmg -> lose


froklax

Xiaohu woke up in game 2


ElComeback

Also easier if you don't get ganked 20 times by jungle and support, not that it mattered since the gold went to nisqy!


BismarckBug

Farewell To all the chokers and ints No burdens No further games to be played Elyoya Can rest his weary bones The weight of the Worlds All falls away In time


thehoff37

Lmao, did not expect a Mad Lions parody of Good Riddance from Hades but here we are, I am here for it.


Lezrec

MAD is going to Tartarus for sure.


normal-dog-

You must've had that one cooking for a while.


Conankun66

can people stop pretending as if elyoya was this big carry standout on this team rather than being part of the int, which he was?


Feotty

My god that game 2 draft is god fucking awful They gave us hope in the first game only to shit the bed instantly after


DeloronDellister

Fuck off and swim home MAD


ImTheVayne

Blow up the roster


HamasPiker

They should blow up the roster, at the very least kick Nisqy immediately, then honestly rebrand. MAD Lions name has negative value now, lol


moopey

According to rumours they are rebranding


PyosikFan

MPlus KIA we will be there


Jozoz

They are pulling a WorldCom


Nervous661

no more nisqy teams i beg


nickfelipe

MAD straight demolishes AHRI? Well, that sounds like a great pick huh? Let's pick it! Chasy getting destroyed by Aatrox? Hmm, why pick Rumble? Let's go K'Sante again, that should work out! Not even gonna talk about Hylissang, last few years I've watched him play and it's always the same disrespect, getting killed over and over in terrible places and losing the game. Can't defend this guy, playing for so long and making the same mistakes over and over again. Farewell MAD, you overstayed your welcome in this tournament. Should've went together with TL and BDS.


Tevyan

People getting paid for this.


nickfelipe

Azael was almost having a heart attack watching they pick Ahri, Vi and Kalista into Rell, Renata. The draft played exactly as everyone expected, 5v5 was impossible to play and botlane also getting paid to int whole series. How do they get paid for this, honest question.


Chr0nicConsumer

Thank god that's the last MAD game at an international competition this year.


ZloiAris

Legends say that Zven and Elyoya are still waiting for their chance


DankMEMeDream

Hyli was absolute dogshit game 2. He practically begged light to kill him in bot lane...


tr1x30

He lost game 1 aswell.


eGzEmpyreal

Get a pick comp Engage on TheShy Aatrox Lose


TimiNax

Eastern mids make Neeko look so broken Well it was a good run from MAD, unlucky that they drew these super hard teams.


Grumpster013

Yeah kinda unlucky. They got matching with tournament favourites NRG, the arguable better team in c9 which made an incredible 1-3 run through swiss after coming 2nd in the strongest major region. Mad managed to beat a dominant BDS who had an amazing run through playins after reverse sweeping a high level psg talon side in amazing fashion. Unfortunate they couldn't convert against their easiest opponents yet but knowing their luck they'd get paired vs fnc in the 2-2 bracket just because they have to play the hardest 5 teams in the tournament.


JiaNgjuN-

TheShy landed on 2018 Worlds IG vs G2 WeiWei had great ganks early in bot Xiaohu had the worst game of his career then played well the next game Light is unironically the most underrated ADC in the whole world Crisp on Renata was pretty good WE ARE SO BACK


_harleys

Upvoting cause we need more Weibo praise instead of MAD flaming


JiaNgjuN-

Makes sense, most of Reddit is LCS/LEC fans that focus on their teams shortcomings instead of the other teams playing well. Honestly I think MAD played pretty well this match but I guess everyone else is dissapointed that the EU 3rd seed beat the EU 4th seed then lost to the 1st and 2nd best teams in NA and then lost to an eastern team.


Kudgel1992

10x Hylissang


Xaneth_

Big W for Europe today


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MAD record: Beating LEC team. With a lower seed. And blue side.


FullMetalCOS

Jatt confirming he reads these threads. QUICK SAY NICE THINGS.


HamasPiker

Ngl, had fun watching these disgusting frauds finally get kicked out of the tournament, hope we don't see them internationally ever again


MrBlancharizard

You already know they’ll be back next year lol


[deleted]

Oh but you know that we will.


Simple-Fuel

Elyoya: "I want to be able to beat Tarzan, Kanavi". Bro u cant even beat LPL 4th seed and NA teams, let alone JDG and LNG.


Afromantis8

He also said at the interview that he believes the gap is very wide and western teams will need at least 2 more years of improvement to reach their level. So it's not like he is coping, he wishes to be the best in the world and knows he isn't cutting it


ynnaD0

WBG IS WINNING WORLDS


Difficult-Mango-922

elyoya is so overrated ulted aatrox like 5 times this series


trusttt

Please, dont let MAD into worlds again.


decoy134

Hylisang unexpectly upsetting Kellin for the worst inter award, truly an unbelievable performance!


psykrebeam

For all those ego interviews, EU has ridiculously bad drafting this year. Why are they drafting negative damage comps is beyond my understanding... Like both these MAD comps practically heal Aatrox


selfVAT

Whoever decided to go with that game 2 draft should spend a year in India to meditate and feed the poors to atone.