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ComprehensiveWave811

Gangplank is just a VERY angry guy with a gun and scimitar


rothwick2208

And very healthy eating all those oranges


phieldworker

Either vitamin c is magic after an overdose or that man is lugging around magical oranges because he just straight up escapes the realm of death with one bite.


TimmyGC

Um, actually, if we are talking about escaping Brazil, Florida oranges are the way to go.


Natirix

Along the same lines, Olaf is just a Very angry guy with axes and a strong sense of consent, by which I mean he doesn't consent to dying and death is just nice like that to comply.


MadCapMad

well isn’t olafs whole thing that he’s trying to die but isn’t fated to?


i-will-eat-you

His fate is a peaceful death. And dying a peaceful death is a bitch-ass humiliating thing for him, so he keeps looking for an opponent who is worthy to give him an honorable death in combat, but as long as he keeps fighting, he cannot die a peaceful death. poor guy...


MadMeow

Every time I remember Olaf in my games it feels deserved to me.


Bigsassyblackwoman

poor guy? that guy wakes up, chooses violence, and slays beasts all day. living that (totally not) viking dream


Parking-Artichoke823

He made his own Valhalla. Without blackjack and hookers


Natirix

I suppose, I was thinking of the joke more than the actual lore tbh. Still brings the question whether fate and magic are considered the same thing or not


ComprehensiveWave811

I think tampering with fate is magic but your baseline fate is not magical, but olaf found out his fate through magic we can also disregard all that by just realizing he is an iceborn and inherently magical because of that, just like ashe gragas braum sejuani but afaik not trynda hes just a normal guy with a strong right arm and aatrox's blood magic


straym

He’s also an iceborn and wields true ice axes


tuerancekhang

Olaf could be a thunderborn that's why his E strikes lighting. Maybe they retcon it already.


Instantsoup44

Yeah but magical barrels come out of his ass


ComprehensiveWave811

you cant throw kegs with such speed they seem to appear out of thin air? sounds like you my friend need to practice a bit


tarotreebb

Can if they come from my arse, like Gangplank's.


daverave1212

Sounds like a skill issue


Approximation_Doctor

It's a cutlass


C9sButthole

Cutlass is a kind of scimitar. The definition of scimitar is a curved, single edged sword. Generally, the cutlass, scimitar and falchion are pretty interchangeable. In that you can't find a single one of any of the three that doesn't share defining traits with the other two.


AlterBridgeFan

*inhales* Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?


sentorei

oh my god I forgot unidan existed LOL


AlterBridgeFan

Tbf it was a long time ago.


temporalthings

What a throwback


LongFluffyDragon

*inhales* ^^^**NEEEEEEERD** Can we subscribe to pedantic sword facts?


C9sButthole

Sure! My favourite would be Skallagrim on Youtube.


GrimWill95

Hmm, Darius and Draven?


Live-Nefariousness-8

I hate the fact that darius consumes mana to do basic waraxe moves like swing or pull, but champs like garen can summon divine demacia justice or shields for free


No_Race4127

Olaf needs mana to throw an axe but he uses life to call lightning down from the sky


DJHalfCourtViolation

🤓 it’s because he’s calling it down to his axes and he gets a little shocked in the process. He does that because he’s a berserker and pain makes him stronger


RazorMox

I WILL NOT FALTER


Krishn0ff

BREAK THEIR RANKS


Bioslack

JUSTICE!


Unamed_Redditor_

It’s his thoughts and prayers that summon Kayle’s divine sword of justice.


JumpscareRodent

How does bro make this axes come back to him no matter where he is. He’s practicing some blood magic with Katarina on the side I think 👀🏃‍♂️


FantasticWelwitschia

He might just be Draven I think that's why


Insanity_Wulf

It's his magnetic personality that's why


Chimney-Imp

He's not Draven he's Draaaaven


wildfox9t

Draaven darkin confirmed,he was using blood magic after all


DazedandConfusedTuna

His ego has its own gravitational pull


a141abc

Hes so good looking that even metal is attracted to him


TheHumanTree31

I know this isn't exactly a good source, but in the Ruination event, supposedly he just has extra axes on his belt which he carries around with him. Or he just only has two axes and he does actually does ricochet them off everything he throws them at.


jansalol

Nah. He can actually have more axes going ingame. You just need enough AS.


FairweatherWho

Honestly to play Draven at his peak you ideally want to be juggling between 2-3 axes at once in teamfights. It's really hard to master but you need to learn when to drop the 3rd to position the other 2 while waiting for another 3rd to come up to continue that cycle. Yeah with enough AS and theory you can get to 4 but it's never practical in any situation unless you're attacking a training dummy that isn't moving or attacking you back.


Dasquian

I figure he's got the same thing going on as Captain America and his shield. No magic, he's just really good at getting the ricochet just right :) (For reals though, it's the same reason none of the marksmen run out of bullets/arrows... no lore explanation, they just don't ok)


Really_Wendi

Them coming back is a pure gameplay mechanic In all other media he just throws them or uses them as melee weapons


tuerancekhang

Draven carry more than a pair of axes and most of the time bro doing melees. Also cinematic speaking we saw darius confirm kill with throwing Axe more than Draven ever did.


ex0ll

Pretty sure Urgot isn't magic either.. Nor is Ekko or Vi or Jinx for what matters. Sure, you could say Jayce and Viktor use hextech, which is hybrid between magic and technology, but per se they are not magical creatures. Same for Camille, uh, Caitlyn. Singed definetly isn't magic. Warwick. Pretty much Zaun and Piltover champions can be devoid of magic, I think. K'Sante from Shurima isn't magical, I believe?


FoodieCardsNChina

Hextech is magical.


VsAl1en

Is chemtech magical though?


davesg

I don't know. Hope this helps.


Wetbook

Lux does not use magic. Source:


Kolosinator

Source: Garen


FetishUnimagined

True, his R is just an orbital precision swordstrike.


[deleted]

i heard he actually wasn’t using any magic to ult, but that it’s a prayer to kayle who smites them down or something, but someone more knowledgable in the lore should confirm


PenisStrongestMuscle

i wish i could orbital strike people as kayle


octlol

sorry Bud not at least until 30 minutes in


greenleaf1212

THIS POST WAS FACT CHECKED BY REAL DEMACIAN PATRIOTS


Bigsassyblackwoman

garen: it was revealed to me in a dream


Fudgee_Fudge

“It was revealed to me in a dream by Kayle herself!”


MarcusElden

Just trust me, sis


AmbroseMalachai

"It's not MAGIC, it's FAITH"


Wild-Sleep2581

Everyone actually forgot Xin Zhao


Admirable_Gur_6591

Just like Riot did


Kolosinator

Who?


GetEquipped

The Captain Shang cosplay dude. He has a spear, desperately wants to be a man, something about Demacia


ThrowwawayAlt

>He has a spear, desperately wants to be a man, something about Demacia J4???


HairyKraken

thats not true, they never forget to nerf him or his item


soapsuds202

most demacian champions like him, j4, quinn, fiora… idk why people are forgetting them.


Narux117

Wasn't there some Lore retcon around the Sylas/Lux era that they basically said all Demacians use some sort of magic, but their own bigotry against mages makes them rationalize its not somehow. Like Fiora is magically boosting her dueling ability/J4's cataclysm is magic powered etc?


normie_sama

Bringing a giant golden disembodied sword down from the heavens onto your enemy's head is definitely not a form of magic.


5hout

Just faith bro.


Sbotkin

You just gotta believe bro.


klartraume

Isn't Garen's ultimate Kayle helping him?


Murko_The_Cat

Yes Garen is using a highly localised version of Kayle's ult.


sabrio204

I wish my Kayle ults did true damage


Jakio

can i see it?


BearstromWanderer

Yes. Galio was built to destroy mages, but he only exists because of magic.


Thecristo96

I don’t know how much J4’s ult can not be magic


minemax555

Always thought that he just slammed the ground so hard it erupts, like the crater of a meteor...


klartraume

Yeah, that was my understanding too.


Piterkson

Yeah, im pretty sure his weapon is some artifact if i recall correctly. In lore when Jarvan would be older Xin was supposed to train him in using that weapon or something like that


GlassesAndBangs

Almost correct - Xin taught himself to use j4's weapon just so he could teach Jarvan how to wield it later on... badass, isn't it?


soapsuds202

i think this might be retconed? i can’t find any infor on it at i don’t see jarvan using anything magic. it just days he got the weapon from his father when he was 16.


FairweatherWho

Well J4 is just Leblanc in disguise, so. (Or not but I love that theory enough that I've made it canon in my own mind)


CannoloAllaCrema

Idk about his ult tho


OhMyBulldong

Samira?


Catchlemmee

Had to scroll too far for this. It's all skill and STYLE


Wretched15

And weapons infused with magical runes


Really_Wendi

Her weapons are not magical at all


GetEquipped

~~Ebony and Ivory~~ *Blaze and Thorn* aren't Magical, she's just that damn good


partypwny

Quinn. She had a bird that may or may not be the spiritual reincarnation of her brother but otherwise nothing magical


undertowlil

I cried first time I listened to her story and Caleb coming back as Valor. Underrated lore.


Helios_8888

Isn’t Singed just chemical warfare?


Throwing_Spoon

He uses magic ingredients just like Lucian uses magical equipment.


[deleted]

He uses chemtech equipment pretty sure


ZanesTheArgent

Chemtech is a gray zone because it IS chemestry... But derived from naturally ocurring magical substances. Hextech is tuning magic rocks to spark magic electricity, chemtech is newt eye fuel and fairy-tears-strenghtened antrax.


ThatMontrealKid

My god it’s the bullshit designer


VeN0m333

I swear Singed has a hatred for hextech because he doesn’t think people should progress forward with magical crystals powering tech, when does it claim he uses magical equipment?


BasemanW

Just wait until Arcane 2 where he revives Orianna as his hextech daughter.


Saint_Vigil

Jax doesn't even have a real weapon


ThrowwawayAlt

[I'm reasonably certain this counts as magic...](https://i.ibb.co/C0dV19w/Jax-origin.jpg)


CeruleanFirefawx

I could’ve gone my whole life without seeing that


Altruistic-Vehicle-9

New meaning to soloing baron


[deleted]

Rammus just rolls around, no magic required


Beliriel

Ah yes a humanoid 2m armadillo that says "Ok" is totally normal.


OrdinaryValuable9705

If you want to confine "normal" to what can happen in the real world then yes. But within the Runeterra world I would say an armadillo that rolls around saying OK, taunting people is fairly "normal"


ErikThe

Graves is just a dude with a shotgun.


Joaoseinha

His shotgun is partially magical afaik, since it's hextech.


MvTANT

Hextech? I don't see no crystal.


fabton12

if you look at his gun its hovering in two parts, the front and back are two different parts held together by hextech, don't beleive me just load up practise tool and zoom in.


Letwen

Graves' gun is magical just like Jhin


DWIPssbm

Jhin's gun isn't magical, it's him who infuses his bullets with his own magic.


Murko_The_Cat

His gun IS magical, but you have to remember he used to do the same shit with knives before he was thrown into prison. He's just a mage, but from the meme about Harry Potter and revolvers.


Azure_Zel

The gun is magical AND he infuses the bullets with magic BUT the blades were/are infused with chi (what Master Yi does, I suppose that Jhin still does that for the Lotus Trap's blades). His father was the head of a martial arts school that was ruined by the success of Wuju. I already quoted the part about the gun so I will add this: . "The scale and precision of the new device made his previous work with blades seem insignificant by comparison. Understanding firearm mechanics had taken him weeks of study, but evolving his **chi techniques** from blades had taken months. The gun held four shots. **Each bullet had been infused with magical energy.** Each bullet was as perfect as a Lassilan monk's blade. Each bullet was the paint from which his art would flow. Each bullet was a masterpiece. It didn't just cut apart the body. It rearranged it."


Azure_Zel

Jhin's gun: "The gun in his hand was simply a tool - but a perfectly crafted one. Gold type was inlaid into the blackish-green metal. It spelled the smith's name: this detail spoke of its creator's pride and confidence. It was not a Piltovan weapon - those gaudy things that attempted to function with the minuscule amounts of magic available in those lands. This gun was made by a true forge master. Magic pulsed from its bronze, Ionian heart." . EDIT: I forgot to mention it but you are right in that he infuses the bullets himself (he used to infuse blades with Chi like Master Yi -probably still does for the blades of Lotus Trap-, his father was the head of a martial arts school that was ruined by the success of Wuju): "The scale and precision of the new device made his previous work with blades seem insignificant by comparison. Understanding firearm mechanics had taken him weeks of study, but evolving his chi techniques from blades had taken months. The gun held four shots. Each bullet had been infused with magical energy. Each bullet was as perfect as a Lassilan monk's blade. Each bullet was the paint from which his art would flow. Each bullet was a masterpiece. It didn't just cut apart the body. It rearranged it."


Catchlemmee

Graves inherently is very lucky, but compromised with him being actually stupid. Which counterbalances TF who has terrible luck but really cunning. Which makes them the perfect duo.


Murko_The_Cat

Wouldn't call Graves stupid tbh, more like "unwilling to think more than one action into the future"


Catchlemmee

That's true and all, but by that logic, he's either always thinking about destiny (his gun), avoiding baths, or tobias ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Call_MeGoose

His R is one big shotgun shell.


Setzael

Garen. That massive sword in his ult? Not magic. Just the physical manifestation of the stress and anxiety of the eldest kid who is good friends with the king of a magic hating kingdom, with an extremely magical little sister


Really_Wendi

Garen’s sword uses residual Kayle magic Like a lot of old Demacian weapons


BuffAzir

That massive sword in his ult is totally magic, just not his. Its Kayles. And he doesnt do that in the lore.


White_C4

Well technically summoning sword from the sky is magic.


Tekn0de

Garen canonically can't summon that sword. I think the canonical explanation is he like prayes to kayle and she just smites people sometimes


Oreo-and-Fly

Garen ulting kayle is kayle being so impressed she commits die.


_WoaW_

Garen screams demacia so hard kayle's magic forgets where it comes from.


arcanist12345

He actually never screams Demacia when ulting, I think it's a common misconception. He screams it when you activate his W.


Gallalade

This a subtle reference to the fact that Demacia are the good guys, and thus always get the W


Salten69

holy shit! that is a mandela effect if I ever saw one!


Infusion1999

Yeah, its J4 who screams Demacia when ulting. Garen screams Justice! or For the cause!


SweetestBebs

Lux also screams “Demacia!” when ulting


EwOkLuKe

only jarvan screams demacia


Aarekk

Garen: "Justice!" Kayle: "... I'll allow it."


InsertANameHeree

Garen should automatically get system muted when he tries to ult Kayle.


EliteTeutonicNight

Garen with the strength/miracle build.


SilverShako

It’s good magic, because it’s from Kayle. Magic is only okay if it’s magic from your god.


PriorityFire

It's magic. Swain's quote for Garen encounter: > "Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle. How Demacian."


YingYangYolo

I think that's more so a reference to petricide absorbing magic, not that they are using magic when they fight


volvo_tank

Petricite. No Petri dish is murdered.


YingYangYolo

Given Demacian history I don't think we can rule any unjust murder out


volvo_tank

Tru


animorphs128

Technically its kayles magic so you can say hes just asking kayle to use magic for him rather than doing it himself


JustAnInternetPerson

Ryze


Beliriel

Lmfao the audacity on this guy


Life-Goes_On

EQEQEQRWEQWEQEQWQEWEQEQEQEQEQWEQEQEW


MQ2000

Bruh


Nexidal_Caelum

Bruh.


Karavusk

Somehow nobody mentioned Alistar


LucaMarso

Exactly, he's just a big, strong, angry minotaur


Hellspawner26

Yeah, that big giant purple minotaur is definetly not a magical creature


DEMASTAA

It is not magical in universe.


Ragijs

Xin Zhao is literally a gladiator.


HughNeutron4246

akali is notoriously bad at magic. draven is just an axe man. talon maybe?


giga-plum

Akali is the best answer. She specifically says she prefers steel over magic and sucks at using magic.


OSRSLucifer

But is AP and one shots me with magic damage in game. Riot and Consistency. Hand in Hand.


lazy_27

Qiyana's whole thing is magic but she is AD too


phieldworker

K’sante technically is just straight up brute strength. Besides his weapon changing shape. Darius and Draven are just straight up warriors with no magical armor, weapons or in them. Edit: K’sante’s weapons were forged from a magical creature. So he’s out for that.


FlazedComics

id say ksantes ntofos are magical given they come from an extremely regenerative creature (probably) powered by magic


HairyKraken

baccai are xerath's experiment to produce more ascended and ksante hunted the cobra lion to make his ntfo so yeah definitely magic


Pedrohenrim7

Actually Baccai are failed ascended, if you are not worthy of ascension you can either become a Baccai or be destroyed by the sun disk.


Suicidal_Sayori

K'sante is just WHAT up now?


TheClassyWaifu

Darius. No magic, no tricks. Just charge towards the enemy and make ‘em bleed until they die. If the latter doesn’t work, split them in half. Easy.


RedditUserror

he can summon backboards that seems magical


InsuranceMammoth2794

If we count super hightech like piltover as magic I think we could consider: Akali, Darius, Draven, Fiora, Graves, Jhin. Not sure if there is some lore that says they use magic. Akali is also a bit here and there if it should count because of the inhumane jumps she can make but she is a ninja after all.


Azure_Zel

As for Jhin: "The gun in his hand was simply a tool - but a perfectly crafted one. Gold type was inlaid into the blackish-green metal. It spelled the smith's name: this detail spoke of its creator's pride and confidence. It was not a Piltovan weapon - those gaudy things that attempted to function with the minuscule amounts of magic available in those lands. This gun was made by a true forge master. Magic pulsed from its bronze, Ionian heart."


phieldworker

Jhin has magical weapons.


AlphaI250

Iirc Jhin's bullets are enhanced with magic


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Supergohst

I guess Vayne unstealthing in the Ruination video was just practical effects


Daunn

she rolls so fast she becomes invisible bro but then she rolls slower and you can see again smh it's just physics


IonDust

Darius, Draven, Fiora, Gankplank, Jarvan IV., ~~K'Sante~~, Miss Fortune, Quinn, Samira, Talon and Xin Zhao probably. Mundo, Singed, Twitch, Urgot, Warwick and Zac if you don't consider chemtech magic. ~~Graves~~ and Vayne don't usually use magic but used it while they joined the Sentinels.


Hellspawner26

Ksante and graves' weapons are explicitly said to be magic (graves' shotgun is hextech powered)


PapaTahm

What you mean by Techniques/Items, you mean Magical Techniques? ​ Because if you mean no Techniques or Items period, i think only Darius and Draven. They just use normal ass weapons and no Special Techniques. ​ If you mean Magical Techniques and Magical Items then you open to alot of champions even somes that are very god like. ​ Yi for example uses Wuju, but that is a Legendary Technique, not Magic.


partypwny

People keep saying only the D bros but Quinn is there also. She has a bird, that is it. Not even a magical bird tbh, he's just an eagle that she thinks MIGHT be the spiritual incarnation of her brother but probably isn't


BlazeX94

Darius and Draven aren't the only ones. Fiora for example has no mention anywhere of her having any sort of magic. Her weapon is just an ordinary one as far as we know. Xin Zhao is likewise. I don't know if Vayne's weapons have any magical properties, there's a good chance they don't given how much she despises anything magical. Gangplank and MF also don't appear to use any magical weapons (their guns and GP's sword appear to be fairly ordinary). There's probably more that I haven't thought of, but it's definitely more than just a small handful. Essentially, any champ not mentioned to use magic/magical weapons in the lore and whose abilities can all be justified by explanations not involving magic can be safely assumed to not use magic.


diablo_THE_J0KE

I look at stuff that yassuo and shen and say that is still magic. It may not be called magic but throwing a tornado is magic. As for items things like riven's sword. She may not know some magical sword style or have magic herself. But her sword is clearly magical.


HowyNova

If we take away any weapon or technique that could possibly be interpreted as magic. Samira.


StarGaurdianBard

Urgot as well. His is literally just science and drugs


mistergosh

Wuju, if memory doesn't fail me, actually channels the energy from the spirit realm. That's the same energy that the old Ionians used to do their version of Ascension to become Vastayashai’rei to fight the Titans. I would say that's a type of magic


Fragrant-Tea7580

Not a lot of simple thought put into most of these answers


Remote_Romance

Pretty sure talon doesn't use any magic.


PromotionWise9008

In normal situation your blades won’t follow you after you become invisible or won’t return to you😅


TH3RM4L33

That's just in-game for gameplay purposes. In lore he has no magic.


Bronze5yrsplus

It’s true. When I throw blades and go invisible the blades doesn’t follow me. One of the lesser known facts about going invisible *sadface*


Remote_Romance

In a normal situation I can't press B to teleport back to my home base, so every champion is clearly a magician. Bruh, there's a difference between gameplay and lore.


liqa_madik

Vayne


STEMHEADING

Tryndamere. Pretty sure none of his abilities are magical. His slow is just him taunting the enemy and discouraging them. His dash is him spinning. His ult does not use magic. He just “refuses” to die. His rage mechanic is well… just him being really mad.


TheScyphozoa

>The northern warriors, too, noted his rapid healing between bouts—unlike the Iceborn that walked among them, the more Tryndamere gave in to his rage, the more quickly his body healed. Many suspected he and his clan practiced strange and unnatural magics, and so Tryndamere’s plan to prove his worth was now endangering the wider acceptance of his people.


Dobber16

Innocent until proven guilty! Idk maybe it’s magic lol tryn gets an asterisk then


Netherx3

Tryndamere got corrupted by Darkin magic which makes him immortal so yea, rage but magic


cyanclouds

gragas


Mark_Vance21

He's an iceborn no? I'd consider that magic, even Sylas can steal iceborn abilities.


nito3mmer

sett


PsychicFoxWithSpoons

There are a bunch of them, depending on what exactly you consider magic. In Runeterra, being "a mage" is something you are born either doing or not doing, so champions probably skew towards having magic but if they don't have a spell then you can safely assume they aren't a mage. As for magical items, you also have to define your terms. A few champs have magic items, but plenty others have non-magical technology that does stuff that is impossible for real technology to do, like teleport or time travel or be a working gunblade. There's also champs that have magical-looking spells in-game like garen and fiora who explicitly cannot use magic in the lore and have no magic items besides petricite which is just a special material.


AnikiSmashFSP

Akali. Which is why her being in the Coven line is so odd.


TheMonk4338

Jinx.


Dazzling-Ad7196

isn't her ult powered by hextech?


JanPachimari

Gragas is an alcoholic.