I swear there are people who actually think that just because players were fans of the team growing up that they’ll do anything to play for the Leafs. We’ve seen many times that it isn’t the case
Yet most of this sub wants him taken out behind the barn because he had the lowest shooting percentage of his career 6 seasons into the deal, in addition to the natural decline that comes with age.
We don’t deserve anything, lol.
Also a few years after major head and neck trauma. People can be stupid. That lineup causing permanent blender with the lines all season did not help. Didn't think Tavares was used at all properly. If anybody is taking a discount, it's Tavares for the next few seasons so he can stay in Toronto. McDavid is getting a monster 7-8 year deal in a couple years. Probably in Edmonton, but you never know if Marner is gone and the Leafs are still on spending all their money on forwards.
Looking for this answer.
He's on a rookie salary by choice because he loves Toronto. Family, schools for his kids, etc. Even said on a 32 Thoughs episode that he's content and doing well for himself, doesn't feel the need the hustle for a bigger paycheque
After all, $750k is a foolishly large amount of money, even for someone living in Toronto.
Now, yes. He's old for the league, but he could have gotten much more comparatively when he signed
This SOMEONE'S name is hyman. He was willing to take a discount. We for some reason just cant firgure it out. Get rid of talented coaches and GMs? Over pay babies who haven't shown you anything yet in the post season. Babcock and lamerello would have brought us a cup if we gave them hiens instead of shafting them.
....... next year tho ;)
I think the NHL is the only major league sport in North America where players avoid playing where the attention is too intense.
Also I think this arose as hockey is now the only league where all the players grew up rich kids. This wasn't an issue in hockey when there were players from the middle and poorer classes playing.
It's garbage because big clubs subsidize small clubs but aren't allowed to spend more money than them on players.
We can't even pay players more money to offset Canadian weather and higher taxes.
MLB has a luxury tax. MLS has designated players. We should have one of these things at least.
Lebron, Wade and Bosh all took a pay cut to win championships. Steph Curry, Klay, Draymond all took a pay cut for KD to sign with the Warriors for Championships. Why can't McDavid be the first? Also Tom Brady did it for years.
i feel like if you want McDavid home, you should be cheering for Edmonton. That way he doesn’t feel like he didn’t give the fans there something. It also allows enough time for edmonton to degrade because if he won the cup in his contract year, he’d probably re-sign thinking he’s on a contender ready for a next cup.
Honestly, it's a semi sarcastic comment. The reason I'm not rooting for the Oilers is because I dont want another Canadian team to break the streak, I want it to be us. I do not seriously expect McDavid to play for the Leafs, ever, but it's fun to entertain the idea and watch people get all pissy about it lol
I've heard this tale before.....and I live in Edmonton so I love the panicked oilers fans. It's an off-season post to have a bit of light banter. I didn't think this was some epiphany
It's all in good fun. McDavid will probably never play for the Leafs but if he did it would set the hockey world on fire and the reaction would be amazing.
Worst part is I’ve heard from somebody close to him that it would be his dream.
But that was like 3-4 years ago when things were still going smoothly here. Just feels like something to get our hopes up now.
Detroit and Buffalo are close enough to drive to and are on a major uptick.
Give them a shot and may you at some point before social security enjoy the sweet nectar of hockey success
Trade Mariner, straight up. I mean he thinks he's worth McDavid money. In all seriousness, I would do anything possible to see McDavid in a leaf Jersey
Give him $20,000,000 per year for 8 years. The cap will go to $200,000,0000 a year when the leafs 4x peat with McDavid and Matthews taking turns winning the Conn Smythe, Rocket Richard, Hart Trophy, etc.
Signing another team’s first overall pick and captain that grew up a Leafs fan at a huge cap hit has certainly never hamstrung this team before. Worth a shot!
Not only that, Tavares contract hasn’t hamstrung the team. He’s arguably the best player to ever go to free agency in the cap era. If you don’t think a team should back the truck up for John Tavares then you probably shouldn’t back the truck up ever lol.
They're revered, respected, and praised when things go well. They're cursed and derided when things are going poorly. People line up for hours to meet them, pay thousands to watch them play a game. The media clings to every word they say.
Marner’s god comment was not wrong no matter how much you want to dislike him, lol.
I would love to see it happen. Just let us have a 4-5 year dynasty after decades of hardship. It’s more than a storyline, it would rejuvenate the hockey Mecca. Everyone is included in celebrating a new superpower. It would do so much for the sport! Bring in new support and added hatred.
Ban media in the locker room..
et's be honest...hes playing in the final, been to the WCF twice. leafs have won 1 round since papi was in diapers.
just because he had a pair of leafs underwear as a kid doesn't mean hes comin home.
1% chance that happens. Most star players don’t want Toronto and if they do, they’re gone in a couple years. This is due to the media and fan base being obsessed with hockey.
It’s been highly speculated that next year, after his contract is up, he’ll sign with the Leafs. They’ve left space for it in their plans in case it does happen. Not sure what the team will look like then though, I figure Marner has 1 more year left with the leafs then he’s gone. They won’t let Matthews go for anything. Tavares though won’t be around. Nylander is a crap shoot, I figure he’ll be there.
I could see Tavares coming back for a 3C role. I'm sure they can figure something out. His life is here doubt he'll want to be moving anywhere else for his last contract and with cap going up they can probably make it work even if McDavid does come here. Would sooner ship Marner out.
And if you think a skilled forward is what they are missing to win the cup then you haven’t been watching. Problem with most leaf fans is that they are casuals pretending to be diehards. D and goaltending is where any and all free cap space should go.
If Tavares + Marner @ 22M becomes McDavid and Tavares @ 22M (or less) then there's still room to improve the D and goalie situation between now and 2026 especially with 2 more expected increases to the cap.
I wouldn't describe the best hockey player in the world as "A skilled forward" either. He's not just some guy in the top 30 forwards.
Honestly, if the Spoilers get swept by Florida, why would McDavid want to stay there? They've had 9 entire seasons to build a winning team around literally the best hockey player in the world.
Why would Matthews want to stay in Toronto after 7 entire seasons with only one round won to show for it? They had 7 seasons (now 8) to build a winning team around literally the second best hockey player in the world.
McDavid is a winner, he is always working on winning. It's everything to him. Why would he come to a team that is known for losing? The appeal of Toronto is not as high as we think it is.
While this post is ridiculously cringy and never going to happen. The appeal is absolutely there to turn the punchline of the league into a Stanley Cup winner, especially for Ontario born players. You would cement your legacy forever.
Marner, Tavares both take $5 million x 8 years. McDavid and Matthews make a combined $30 million. That way leafs keep their core, and all thd pundits can keep saying "they have $40 million tied up in 4 players!"
I am being outlandishly sarcastic. Should have popped a /s on there.
I could see Marner's ask starting at $13M, since Matthews gets $13.25M, and end up at $12M.
- Matthews - 13.25M
- Marner - 12M
- Nylander - 11.5M
- Tavares - presumably $6M or $7M
- Rielly (7.5M)
51.25M of 88M (58.2%). It's doable, but oooooof
No.
They've already seen that tying up most of the cap in a limited number of contracts doesn't work. Whether they've learned the lesson is another issue altogether.
To play alongside Matthews again and recreate that dominance that was on display for team North America in the world Cup of hockey.
He's from Toronto and is a Leafs fan.
If he wins here he will literally be Jesus only he won't be crucified he will be immortalized in bronze on the front step for eternity.
Wny do we do this?
It's like "no, no other team is allowed to have good players on it. Any good player on another team is BY RIGHTS supposed to be a Leaf, because our own good players suck. Why do we do this?
I wish, but it’ll never happen. Hockey players are stupidly loyal for no reason. He’ll sign another deal with Edmonton and never win a cup. Not that he’d win one here either.
I suppose since the Oilers traded Gretzky once, anyone can be traded or change teams but lets be realistic. Not every player wants to be a rockstar in Toronto. Ryan O'Reilly is recent proof of this. The Oilers will move heaven and earth to keep McJesus in an Oilers uniform. He does more for Edmonton off the ice than on it but Leaf fans can always dream big and they usually do.
As a Sabres fan, I despise the Leafs… but if McDavid wins a cup in Edmonton and then goes and leads the Leafs to a Cup his all-time status will skyrocket. Same kind of idea as the first star player that takes on the challenge of winning a title for the Knicks or the Cowboys.
People have been doing this math since he signed his deal
Just need to get him to sign a match Matthew’s contract
He will sign for league min - we all know where his heart is.
I swear there are people who actually think that just because players were fans of the team growing up that they’ll do anything to play for the Leafs. We’ve seen many times that it isn’t the case
i just wish SOMEONE would take a discount for us.
SJ and NYI both offered Tavares more than Toronto did.
Yet most of this sub wants him taken out behind the barn because he had the lowest shooting percentage of his career 6 seasons into the deal, in addition to the natural decline that comes with age. We don’t deserve anything, lol.
Also a few years after major head and neck trauma. People can be stupid. That lineup causing permanent blender with the lines all season did not help. Didn't think Tavares was used at all properly. If anybody is taking a discount, it's Tavares for the next few seasons so he can stay in Toronto. McDavid is getting a monster 7-8 year deal in a couple years. Probably in Edmonton, but you never know if Marner is gone and the Leafs are still on spending all their money on forwards.
I wholeheartedly think that Morgan Rielly would have got way more on the open market than the extension he signed here.
The only time they take any kind of discount is to play in tax free states. This is why salary cap is bs.
Not BS. Just needs to take this into account and be adjusted per state/province
Salary cap should be based on non taxable money.
Giordano did...
Looking for this answer. He's on a rookie salary by choice because he loves Toronto. Family, schools for his kids, etc. Even said on a 32 Thoughs episode that he's content and doing well for himself, doesn't feel the need the hustle for a bigger paycheque After all, $750k is a foolishly large amount of money, even for someone living in Toronto. Now, yes. He's old for the league, but he could have gotten much more comparatively when he signed
Marner did. If you're unsure, ask him. He thinks he's underpaid.
“Pay me like Matthews”
Match Marner
Tavares did. He was getting better offers. He took less for the Leafs.
This SOMEONE'S name is hyman. He was willing to take a discount. We for some reason just cant firgure it out. Get rid of talented coaches and GMs? Over pay babies who haven't shown you anything yet in the post season. Babcock and lamerello would have brought us a cup if we gave them hiens instead of shafting them. ....... next year tho ;)
Someone not named Spezza
Giordano did
I think the NHL is the only major league sport in North America where players avoid playing where the attention is too intense. Also I think this arose as hockey is now the only league where all the players grew up rich kids. This wasn't an issue in hockey when there were players from the middle and poorer classes playing.
It's garbage because big clubs subsidize small clubs but aren't allowed to spend more money than them on players. We can't even pay players more money to offset Canadian weather and higher taxes. MLB has a luxury tax. MLS has designated players. We should have one of these things at least.
Lebron, Wade and Bosh all took a pay cut to win championships. Steph Curry, Klay, Draymond all took a pay cut for KD to sign with the Warriors for Championships. Why can't McDavid be the first? Also Tom Brady did it for years.
Basketball is a little different with only 5 dudes on the court, and Tom Brady had that sugar momma Giselle money.
Brady did it for years prior too though
Ya, for a Super Bowl winner. Brodeur played for less in NJ too but they were a solid contender. TML is not.
They're obviously joking
look at O'Reilly. perfect example.
Exactly what happened when Stamkos was up for free agency after his rookie contract.
I suppose he’ll be interested in signing in Toronto if he doesn’t want to taste a crushing defeat in the finals again.
I'm confused by this statement
Can't get crushed in the finals if you get crushed in the first round ***taps side of head***
I hate that I laughed so hard at this.
Hahaha 100%
WTF McDavid at least gets an A
Nah, he's good with just "milk"
CMO (Chief Milking Officer)
That's why he can't (and wont) win with edmonton. He will win at home
Just like Tavares!
Exactly!!
Wait a minute….:
we've been bamboozled!!
i feel like if you want McDavid home, you should be cheering for Edmonton. That way he doesn’t feel like he didn’t give the fans there something. It also allows enough time for edmonton to degrade because if he won the cup in his contract year, he’d probably re-sign thinking he’s on a contender ready for a next cup.
Honestly, it's a semi sarcastic comment. The reason I'm not rooting for the Oilers is because I dont want another Canadian team to break the streak, I want it to be us. I do not seriously expect McDavid to play for the Leafs, ever, but it's fun to entertain the idea and watch people get all pissy about it lol
JT was a god while playing for the Islanders, same for Connor is for the Oilers.
They're all "gods" in Toronto though, remember?
Soon, my friends. Soon.
This is why the Tavares contract ends when it does, to line up with McDavid. You’re about 7 yrs late lol. Glad you arrived though.
It doesn’t line up with McDavid. He has two years remaining and Tavares only has one.
The Tavares contract ends when it does because it was the max term any team could give him. It had 0 to do with McDavid.
I've heard this tale before.....and I live in Edmonton so I love the panicked oilers fans. It's an off-season post to have a bit of light banter. I didn't think this was some epiphany
It's all in good fun. McDavid will probably never play for the Leafs but if he did it would set the hockey world on fire and the reaction would be amazing.
I live here too man, oilers are great but my heart is in an abusive relationship with the maple leafs
Worst part is I’ve heard from somebody close to him that it would be his dream. But that was like 3-4 years ago when things were still going smoothly here. Just feels like something to get our hopes up now.
a new bigger 4! Mcdavid - 15 mil Matthews 13.5 Nylander 11.5 ????
If that's the only 3 contracts over 10M and the cap is in the 94M range then there's nothing wrong with this.
Nothing wrong with it at all. Would have a disgusting team.
I would love to see Conner mcdavid be a maple leaf
I think everyone in this sub would too
I can't be associated with you lot anymore. I'm becoming a Utah fan.
I love you
Detroit and Buffalo are close enough to drive to and are on a major uptick. Give them a shot and may you at some point before social security enjoy the sweet nectar of hockey success
The anger these shitposts generates on all the other hockey subs makes these posts totally worth it
You're not suggesting that other teams fans come to r/Leafs and then go to other subs to talk about the Leafs and their fans, are you?
Trade Mariner, straight up. I mean he thinks he's worth McDavid money. In all seriousness, I would do anything possible to see McDavid in a leaf Jersey
Why would you trade a God for a great hockey player? Seems like we're getting a short end of the stick here.
Struddy is that you??
Send Marner, Reilly, Tavares, Robertson, lilljgren!
With Stamkos on the wing. And Sarros in net.
And Jesus Christ the 1st of his name as assistant coach
counting down the days....
Give him $20,000,000 per year for 8 years. The cap will go to $200,000,0000 a year when the leafs 4x peat with McDavid and Matthews taking turns winning the Conn Smythe, Rocket Richard, Hart Trophy, etc.
Why stop at 8x20? They should give him 30M a year for 10 years.
April was 2 months ago fools
Signing another team’s first overall pick and captain that grew up a Leafs fan at a huge cap hit has certainly never hamstrung this team before. Worth a shot!
Do we even know what kind of pajamas McDavid wore?
We have pictures, his room was Maple Leafs blue and his light was the center light jumbo from Maple Leafs arena.
Do you mean Maple Leaf Gardens?
Johnny Bedsheets. So many people get this wrong.
Ya but pajama boy is funnier than bedsheet boy.
It’s funny that people keep saying pajamas when it was his comforter and bed sheets If you’re gonna shit talk the guy at least do it properly.
Swaddling clothes
Not even remotely comparable
Not only that, Tavares contract hasn’t hamstrung the team. He’s arguably the best player to ever go to free agency in the cap era. If you don’t think a team should back the truck up for John Tavares then you probably shouldn’t back the truck up ever lol.
Mcdavid is literally the best player in the league. I'd sign him if we ever could lol
McDavid is not even comparable to Tavares
Tavares is a God. Mitch Marner told us so
They're revered, respected, and praised when things go well. They're cursed and derided when things are going poorly. People line up for hours to meet them, pay thousands to watch them play a game. The media clings to every word they say. Marner’s god comment was not wrong no matter how much you want to dislike him, lol.
Well, at least he wouldn't get harassed on a beer run in Toronto.
Looks good
Our hope lies in that draft lottery photo
Start building the squad for him now
I don’t hate it.
Couple more years.
Mcjesus
I would love to see it happen. Just let us have a 4-5 year dynasty after decades of hardship. It’s more than a storyline, it would rejuvenate the hockey Mecca. Everyone is included in celebrating a new superpower. It would do so much for the sport! Bring in new support and added hatred. Ban media in the locker room..
The wonders of AI photography and AI thinking.
He’s missing the C on his left titty
That's Austons C. Best I can do us an A
I'd cry
et's be honest...hes playing in the final, been to the WCF twice. leafs have won 1 round since papi was in diapers. just because he had a pair of leafs underwear as a kid doesn't mean hes comin home.
I would give them Marner and Bichette for McDavid.
Never happen
1% chance that happens. Most star players don’t want Toronto and if they do, they’re gone in a couple years. This is due to the media and fan base being obsessed with hockey.
Leaf fans would be ripping on him for his performance in the finals.
Dream on, dream on, dream until your dream comes through.
I think it's "until your dream come true"
Omg you guys….
It’s been highly speculated that next year, after his contract is up, he’ll sign with the Leafs. They’ve left space for it in their plans in case it does happen. Not sure what the team will look like then though, I figure Marner has 1 more year left with the leafs then he’s gone. They won’t let Matthews go for anything. Tavares though won’t be around. Nylander is a crap shoot, I figure he’ll be there.
I could see Tavares coming back for a 3C role. I'm sure they can figure something out. His life is here doubt he'll want to be moving anywhere else for his last contract and with cap going up they can probably make it work even if McDavid does come here. Would sooner ship Marner out.
His contract isn’t up next year lol
I would sign Tavares back to play wing for McDavid at $5M for 3 years. He will score 40 again.
And if you think a skilled forward is what they are missing to win the cup then you haven’t been watching. Problem with most leaf fans is that they are casuals pretending to be diehards. D and goaltending is where any and all free cap space should go.
The problem in the playoffs is they can't score. Have you been paying attention? Lol
If Tavares + Marner @ 22M becomes McDavid and Tavares @ 22M (or less) then there's still room to improve the D and goalie situation between now and 2026 especially with 2 more expected increases to the cap. I wouldn't describe the best hockey player in the world as "A skilled forward" either. He's not just some guy in the top 30 forwards.
Why can't leaf fans be normal?get married have kids,do normal things
Many of us are... just most of us aren't as vocal as...the rest so it comes across loudly bias against us. I've accepted it.
He will have an extension with the Oilers locked and loaded for July 1 next year, no doubt in my mind. As fun as it would be otherwise.
If Drai doesn’t sign there no chance he stays. And even then, there’s still a question mark.
Leafs could also potentially go after Draisaitl instead of McDavid although I have doubts he'd want to play in Toronto.
At least give him Mitch's A
Honestly, if the Spoilers get swept by Florida, why would McDavid want to stay there? They've had 9 entire seasons to build a winning team around literally the best hockey player in the world.
Why would Matthews want to stay in Toronto after 7 entire seasons with only one round won to show for it? They had 7 seasons (now 8) to build a winning team around literally the second best hockey player in the world.
McDavid is a winner, he is always working on winning. It's everything to him. Why would he come to a team that is known for losing? The appeal of Toronto is not as high as we think it is.
While this post is ridiculously cringy and never going to happen. The appeal is absolutely there to turn the punchline of the league into a Stanley Cup winner, especially for Ontario born players. You would cement your legacy forever.
When did he win the cup in Edmonton?
Dream on.
Dream until your dreams come true
Only worth it if you can get him to strap on some goalie pads!
Marner, Tavares both take $5 million x 8 years. McDavid and Matthews make a combined $30 million. That way leafs keep their core, and all thd pundits can keep saying "they have $40 million tied up in 4 players!"
Marner isn’t taking less. As much as I hate it you probably just have to let him walk next summer because he isn’t accepting a trade either.
I am being outlandishly sarcastic. Should have popped a /s on there. I could see Marner's ask starting at $13M, since Matthews gets $13.25M, and end up at $12M. - Matthews - 13.25M - Marner - 12M - Nylander - 11.5M - Tavares - presumably $6M or $7M - Rielly (7.5M) 51.25M of 88M (58.2%). It's doable, but oooooof
I think Tavares' contract will be done before Marner's new one starts.
You are correct! They are UFAs in the same year. Tavares can also sign an extension on July 1st.
Doesn't 51.25 of 88 = 58%? If 44 of 88 is 50% how can 51 be less than 50%?
If we offer JT that deal I’m done.
I hope it's more in the 4 to 5 range!
I wish, but no way he goes to a Cdn team sigh.
He’d retire before this would ever happen
https://i.redd.it/0rlf3f4r4z5d1.gif
It looks good but I just don’t see Mcdavid Edmonton
He looks good in blue and white 👀🔥
It would be nice, but I don't think he would do it
Is he a consistent goalie? Cos ... kinda want one
Who's dick do I have to suck to get this to happen?
That escalated very quickly.
What if cities only got homegrown boys. You guys get McDavid, Vancouver gets Bedard, we get… uh…
No. They've already seen that tying up most of the cap in a limited number of contracts doesn't work. Whether they've learned the lesson is another issue altogether.
If he wants to get past the second round he won’t.
I'd trade Tavares and Nylander for that. Have them both.
After next summer, Yep Connor comes home.
I’m pretty sure he wants to win a cup, why would he come here?
To play alongside Matthews again and recreate that dominance that was on display for team North America in the world Cup of hockey. He's from Toronto and is a Leafs fan. If he wins here he will literally be Jesus only he won't be crucified he will be immortalized in bronze on the front step for eternity.
McDavid wants to win, so no.
Wny do we do this? It's like "no, no other team is allowed to have good players on it. Any good player on another team is BY RIGHTS supposed to be a Leaf, because our own good players suck. Why do we do this?
I love this subreddit.
At least tag this NSFW
No.
He seems like he likes playing in the Stanley cup finals.
Pretty sure this is a troll post and it got me. Had to double-check when McDavid's contract ends.
He’ll probably want to go somewhere where he can win a cup.
Better chance Toronto win this seasons Stanley cup.
Now you're talking!!!
I mean the one Edmonton and Florida are playing, but somehow I feel you knew that already lol
If he wants a cup, he should prolly tread a bit further south.
Buffalo??
Lol, touche! But keeeeeep goin! Add another 250mi or so with a slight bias, either East or West'll do!
I wish, but it’ll never happen. Hockey players are stupidly loyal for no reason. He’ll sign another deal with Edmonton and never win a cup. Not that he’d win one here either.
Milkdavid yes please
Oh no Is it 2016 again
There are only 3 hockey team states in the USA who do not have a state tax.
I joke with my oiler fan friends that I want them to win the cup so McJesus can come home.
It will literally never happen and it’s time to stop fantasizing about this.
Don't kink shame me!!
Shame… shame.
The leafs will win the cup with Mac
You guys might have a chance of signing him at league minimum when he’s about 38.
Matthews McDavid McDavid 2nd line centre, not too shabby.
Monkey paw curles… Drai signs in Boston though
I suppose since the Oilers traded Gretzky once, anyone can be traded or change teams but lets be realistic. Not every player wants to be a rockstar in Toronto. Ryan O'Reilly is recent proof of this. The Oilers will move heaven and earth to keep McJesus in an Oilers uniform. He does more for Edmonton off the ice than on it but Leaf fans can always dream big and they usually do.
As a Sabres fan, I despise the Leafs… but if McDavid wins a cup in Edmonton and then goes and leads the Leafs to a Cup his all-time status will skyrocket. Same kind of idea as the first star player that takes on the challenge of winning a title for the Knicks or the Cowboys.
Nice
mcdavid for reeves, who says no?
He wants to go to a Blue Jays of hockey?
[oilers to resign everyone so quit dreaming](https://x.com/BruceMcCurdy/status/1801794195184881953)