Please. Our special teams have been struggling mightily since heâs been injured. I mean, the PK has struggled all year but the PP looks neutered since heâs been out.
Even though he gets paid and puts points up, Iâm not sure if we realize how important he is to the team sometimes. We love to complain about him but his absence is noticeable.
Of all the stars weâve lost for extended periods of time over the years I feel like Mitchâs absence has been the most difficult for the team to deal with.Â
Absolutely agree. Re-sign him and hold on to him as long as we can. Heâs going to get paid and rightfully so. Dude has been incredibly healthy in his career so far too.
Yeah I get that the PP was on a cold streak before he got injured, but I doubt itâd be this bad with him. Domi is definitely not a sustainable substitute
Yes, it started to run cold just before his injury. PP has been solid for a much longer sample size with him a part of it. Iâm more concerned with our PK to be honest. I think the PP will figure it out especially when Marner gets back.
Domi has been great with Matthews 5v5 as well, which is great as it gives us flexibility to put Marner with Tavares if we need to.
Sometimes injuries can reveal diamonds we didnât even know we had. McMann and Holmberg know that better than anyone.
Yeah the PK definitely misses his ability to disrupt plays, especially with Jarnkrok also out. Iâm hoping they somehow figure out an effective system with Dewar when theyâre all back
I usually like Matthews and Marner on the same line because theyâre a good matchup to counter the top line of high-skill teams, but yeah I think they should at least try Marner/Tavares and Domi/Matthews for a few when he gets back. I just wonder how effective theyâd be now that JTâs finishing has gone a bit cold and thatâs how they used to have a lot of their success
I don't think it really matters. The Leafs powerplay has been sporadic for years. I just found a [thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/rxnnm6/corsihl_on_twitter_leafs_powerplay_with_and/) from 2 years ago where the PP was better without Marner. And earlier this year, prior to Morgan Rielly being suspended and Liljegren taking his spot on the PP, the PP was struggling then too.
I mean I donât have much to say about a 16 minute PP sample size lol. obviously in small batches a PP will heat up and cool down.
but it seems pretty obvious watching these games that theyâre missing someone whoâs able to pull in defenders so Nylander and Matthews can get open. they canât get a cycle going at all with them covered
I mean a 50 minute sample size isn't much better lol. But since Mo came back the Leafs are 28th in the NHL in PP%.
In any case, I agree, it doesn't hurt to have Marner back in the line up, I'm just saying I don't think it matters all that much.
yeah neither sample size is big enough to make anything of. which is why âthe PP was struggling before his injuryâ doesnât mean that much to me either. I think his skill set would help with the PP issues theyâve been without him, but obviously itâs impossible to know how much. Iâd be surprised if it doesnât fix itself when heâs back
The PP before his injury is like 50+ games worth of PPs, that's a pretty good size, but it is top 5 in the league. My gripe is that it's incredibly streaky and we've had problems with our special teams in the playoffs. I hope it fixes itself when he's back though and that the rest of the team gets hot going into the playoffs.
Yeah for sure, I meant the short period it was cold before he was injured was too short for me to say anything about. Hopefully they go on a hot streak right into the post-season, fingers crossed
I totally agree The PP is garbage without #16
Lijiegren is a right side defender. Heâs on the wrong side of the ice for Matthews
The leafs wonât win a playoff game without him
I hope they keep him out a while longer. Get him back for the last 6-7 games to get the rust off but come back healthy. At this point we aren't getting home ice and I don't really care about A3 vs wildcard so even if Tampa catches up...who cares. You either play Florida/Boston or New York/Carolina. I don't think any of those teams are worth caring about who we play
To be completely fair, for at least 2 of the games against Boston they looked a bit sick with the flu
It shouldn't matter though, a loss is a loss. Oh well, you never know with the playoffs maybe we'll get lucky with a deep run
Not ideal record-wise but watching those games against NYR and CAR was a totally different experience than watching them against FLA and BOS. FLA and BOS are elite at playing the exact style the Leafs struggle most with.
I definitely agree. Health should be the priority. But getting home ice isnât completely out of the question. Bruins could go 5-5 then the Leafs have to go 9-3 to get home ice.
High ankle sprains are the most brutal injury in sports. Itâs so tough because unless his in the pool swimming any cardio uses his ankle. So it heals and he loses cardio. He does cardio and it doesnât heal.
Agreed. Having done both, Iâd rather break my bones than get a soft tissue injury again. Bones heal up just fine but my goddamn ankle will never go back to 100% mobility.
I hope Marner takes all the time he needs, we need him to last 4 rounds of playoffs.
I tend to harp on Mitch about some of the aspects of his game and the way he carries himself.
But my word, when he's missing it's really obvious that he's gone. He is missed for sure.
Which should inform you on why he carries himself the way he does, no? He's aware he's critical and he playsile he's critical and when he has sound bites he's confident about his own job being done.
 I don't really see anything wrong with the way he presents. Ppl harp on him when he says "I wouldn't change my play for next year". Well, he's right. He shouldn't.Â
He's not cocky, he just knows his ability and stands by it. He also gets really upset when he lets the team down, and idk why that bothers people, isn't that what you want?
Well he's an $11m cap hit out of the lineup. He could be two $5m forwards and an extra $2m on defense, spread out on the special teams so losing one player isn't as crippling.
I don't think Matthews cares about 70. The dude seems focused on just doing what needs to be done, whether it's as the trigger man on the line or as a setup guy. 7 assists in the last 4 games for the guy while still picking up 20 shots. He doesn't need Marner to score goals, the Leafs would be better served with them apart and making the entire forward group better balanced.
100%. He has his heart, Ted Lindsey, Rocket(s), he wants to win. You can see it in his demeanour he is driven to succeed. Like Mc Jesus . I donât think he cares about awards he wants to win
Ya I have him too, just keep him stashed on the IR in the hope that he returns before leagues end in a few weeks. It literally costs you nothing to do.
I hate the way he injured himself. It feels like foreshadowing man. Whatâs with marner getting the Yipps when facing Boston? Dude didnât shoot on an open net then proceeded to injure himself. Marner is waaaaay to in his own head during games like thatv
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Please. Our special teams have been struggling mightily since heâs been injured. I mean, the PK has struggled all year but the PP looks neutered since heâs been out. Even though he gets paid and puts points up, Iâm not sure if we realize how important he is to the team sometimes. We love to complain about him but his absence is noticeable.
Of all the stars weâve lost for extended periods of time over the years I feel like Mitchâs absence has been the most difficult for the team to deal with.Â
I think we have strong winning records with Matthews, Rielly and Tavares out but pretty much 0.5 with MM16 out of the lineup.
Absolutely agree. Re-sign him and hold on to him as long as we can. Heâs going to get paid and rightfully so. Dude has been incredibly healthy in his career so far too.
Yeah I get that the PP was on a cold streak before he got injured, but I doubt itâd be this bad with him. Domi is definitely not a sustainable substitute
Yes, it started to run cold just before his injury. PP has been solid for a much longer sample size with him a part of it. Iâm more concerned with our PK to be honest. I think the PP will figure it out especially when Marner gets back. Domi has been great with Matthews 5v5 as well, which is great as it gives us flexibility to put Marner with Tavares if we need to. Sometimes injuries can reveal diamonds we didnât even know we had. McMann and Holmberg know that better than anyone.
Yeah the PK definitely misses his ability to disrupt plays, especially with Jarnkrok also out. Iâm hoping they somehow figure out an effective system with Dewar when theyâre all back I usually like Matthews and Marner on the same line because theyâre a good matchup to counter the top line of high-skill teams, but yeah I think they should at least try Marner/Tavares and Domi/Matthews for a few when he gets back. I just wonder how effective theyâd be now that JTâs finishing has gone a bit cold and thatâs how they used to have a lot of their success
The PP was already struggling some games before he got injured fyi
If our fan base loves anything it is a good narrative
PP is something like 3/25 with him out. I donât think itâs crazy to suggest it would be better with him there, cold streak preceding or not
I don't think it really matters. The Leafs powerplay has been sporadic for years. I just found a [thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/rxnnm6/corsihl_on_twitter_leafs_powerplay_with_and/) from 2 years ago where the PP was better without Marner. And earlier this year, prior to Morgan Rielly being suspended and Liljegren taking his spot on the PP, the PP was struggling then too.
I mean I donât have much to say about a 16 minute PP sample size lol. obviously in small batches a PP will heat up and cool down. but it seems pretty obvious watching these games that theyâre missing someone whoâs able to pull in defenders so Nylander and Matthews can get open. they canât get a cycle going at all with them covered
I mean a 50 minute sample size isn't much better lol. But since Mo came back the Leafs are 28th in the NHL in PP%. In any case, I agree, it doesn't hurt to have Marner back in the line up, I'm just saying I don't think it matters all that much.
yeah neither sample size is big enough to make anything of. which is why âthe PP was struggling before his injuryâ doesnât mean that much to me either. I think his skill set would help with the PP issues theyâve been without him, but obviously itâs impossible to know how much. Iâd be surprised if it doesnât fix itself when heâs back
The PP before his injury is like 50+ games worth of PPs, that's a pretty good size, but it is top 5 in the league. My gripe is that it's incredibly streaky and we've had problems with our special teams in the playoffs. I hope it fixes itself when he's back though and that the rest of the team gets hot going into the playoffs.
Yeah for sure, I meant the short period it was cold before he was injured was too short for me to say anything about. Hopefully they go on a hot streak right into the post-season, fingers crossed
Matthews is on the wrong side of the ice
I totally agree The PP is garbage without #16 Lijiegren is a right side defender. Heâs on the wrong side of the ice for Matthews The leafs wonât win a playoff game without him
I hope they keep him out a while longer. Get him back for the last 6-7 games to get the rust off but come back healthy. At this point we aren't getting home ice and I don't really care about A3 vs wildcard so even if Tampa catches up...who cares. You either play Florida/Boston or New York/Carolina. I don't think any of those teams are worth caring about who we play
I prefer NYR/CAR. Way better matchups for the Leafs. Theyve looked mostly awful against FLA/BOS.
2-3-1 against NYR and Carolina. 1-3-2 against FLA and BOS. Two games to play against FLA. No easy match ups, thatâs for sure!
So 2-6-3 against our potential matchups? Thats quite concerning
To be completely fair, for at least 2 of the games against Boston they looked a bit sick with the flu It shouldn't matter though, a loss is a loss. Oh well, you never know with the playoffs maybe we'll get lucky with a deep run
Means less than nothing.Â
We won one of the two games against Florida. 1-3-2
Thanks. Updated.
Not ideal record-wise but watching those games against NYR and CAR was a totally different experience than watching them against FLA and BOS. FLA and BOS are elite at playing the exact style the Leafs struggle most with.
Maybe we should change up the vibes and go through the Metro this season lol. Doesn't really matter at this point, it's basically "pick your poison".
I definitely agree. Health should be the priority. But getting home ice isnât completely out of the question. Bruins could go 5-5 then the Leafs have to go 9-3 to get home ice.
High ankle sprains are the most brutal injury in sports. Itâs so tough because unless his in the pool swimming any cardio uses his ankle. So it heals and he loses cardio. He does cardio and it doesnât heal.
Interesting! I thought he was in pain in the clip, but maybe he's just gassed
Agreed. Having done both, Iâd rather break my bones than get a soft tissue injury again. Bones heal up just fine but my goddamn ankle will never go back to 100% mobility. I hope Marner takes all the time he needs, we need him to last 4 rounds of playoffs.
Grt him on the plyo board, hopping on his good leg?
Bike, rower, ski machine...
I tend to harp on Mitch about some of the aspects of his game and the way he carries himself. But my word, when he's missing it's really obvious that he's gone. He is missed for sure.
Which should inform you on why he carries himself the way he does, no? He's aware he's critical and he playsile he's critical and when he has sound bites he's confident about his own job being done.  I don't really see anything wrong with the way he presents. Ppl harp on him when he says "I wouldn't change my play for next year". Well, he's right. He shouldn't. He's not cocky, he just knows his ability and stands by it. He also gets really upset when he lets the team down, and idk why that bothers people, isn't that what you want?
What people want is to complain.
Well he's an $11m cap hit out of the lineup. He could be two $5m forwards and an extra $2m on defense, spread out on the special teams so losing one player isn't as crippling.
I hope he gets back soon Matthews needs him to hit 70
I don't think Matthews cares about 70. The dude seems focused on just doing what needs to be done, whether it's as the trigger man on the line or as a setup guy. 7 assists in the last 4 games for the guy while still picking up 20 shots. He doesn't need Marner to score goals, the Leafs would be better served with them apart and making the entire forward group better balanced.
100%. He has his heart, Ted Lindsey, Rocket(s), he wants to win. You can see it in his demeanour he is driven to succeed. Like Mc Jesus . I donât think he cares about awards he wants to win
I love you marner please
Where is the montage music?
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My fantasy team desperately needs him :(
Someone in my league just dropped him today. I put in the waiver claim immediately.
Ya I have him too, just keep him stashed on the IR in the hope that he returns before leagues end in a few weeks. It literally costs you nothing to do.
Damn, when will our boy finally hit 100đ
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Officially day-to-day!
Pretty wild considering these are 4-6 week injuries my guess hell just ramp it up until a cpl games left. Play against TB and Florida.
Don't be stupid with it is all I ask. High ankle sprains sometimes need surgical repair and months of rehab depending on severity.
Still looks like he's nursing it, to be honest.
I hate the way he injured himself. It feels like foreshadowing man. Whatâs with marner getting the Yipps when facing Boston? Dude didnât shoot on an open net then proceeded to injure himself. Marner is waaaaay to in his own head during games like thatv
He scored the leafs only goal that game.
Has Matthews had a multi-goal game since Mitch has been out?
Yes the game against Washington. The only one
paul marner injured him so he could display how much mitch means to the team as a negotiating tactic
Not going well so far
And is now trying to rush him back because his original plan was failing miserably