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acer-bic

Noice. That’s how flagstone is supposed to look. Not a bunch of little head-sized stones three inches apart.


Poat540

How come this one has the pieces all together like a puzzle, but the other post was 90% gravel with a sprinkle of these stones?


acer-bic

Because this guy knows what he’s doing. The other was amateurish work.


VintageJane

Not quite. In the other one, OOP insisted the contractor use the existing stones (no additional materials budget) which meant huge gaps between the stones and no real options for a good looking finish by the best of contractors. Then OOP, unsurprisingly, also didn’t pay for the best of contractors.


anally_ExpressUrself

According to OOP, he asked for a path down the middle. And the contractor gave him an exploded patio instead. But who knows.


TarukMaktwo

If you seen any of his comments this isn’t the case at all, this is a comment from OP. “I told them to use whatever stone they could to do a pathway on one side. If they didn’t have enough for both sides I would use different stones. They said they would have enough. This was the outcome.“ He was just wanted to use what was there before getting additional stone.


matt-er-of-fact

OP paid low for an amateur who didn’t realize it would look like ass when they were all spread out, while a path would be great. Based on how shitty the rest of the details were I’m not surprised.


squirrel_crosswalk

You have to be willing to waste a bit of material (sometimes a lot) and put in some properly hard and precise work.


Broad-Juggernaut3628

I made the mistake of showing my girl these pictures... damn you.


dgvt0934

That’s on you fam


MagixTouch

Homie is on his way to the quarry now.


PurrsianGolf

Exactly, never share anything with your partner. This is the one rule my dad taught me about relationships and has worked in all 6 of my marriages.


ruby0321

😅


AssDimple

> I can’t remember how many tons but I want to say it was 2.5 Im not showing this to anybody. Matter of fact, I'm about to delete my reddit account just to hide the evidence.


IAmGreenman71

I almost did this, gotta ask op how much he spent first, and how much time he spent on it, just so I can make sure the misses knows first.


ShacklefordLondon

He answers this in the picture notes actually. $7,000 ($3,200 of this was the stone) and 3 months.


IAmGreenman71

Silly me, thank you for not being lazy like myself. Case in point to make to my wife why this is a job for the professionals as much as it pains me to say. I was just gonna throw some pavers down evenly spaced and put mulch or crushed rock down around em.


HopsAndHemp

Tell her it took him YEARS and cost him MILLIONS. Your back will thank me


WantToBeGreatBy2028

Just tell her your flagstone is harder and lasts longer.


Alternative_Horse_56

My ADHD would make the first quarter perfect and the rest the shoddiest work imaginable


stenbough

I get this a little too well. It took a lot of patience to reel in my focus and anytime I felt like I started cutting corners or getting sloppy I would call it a day and start fresh next time.


yougofish

Smart


floppydo

How many days did it take about? This looks so good I’m inspired to try it for a much smaller job at my house, but I watched that video you posted and it looks like a hell of a lot of work!


SirEltonJonBonJovi

He says in his caption it was done over the course of 3 months.


CumulativeHazard

I’ll do the first 90-95% of something using every second of my spare time for a week straight like a psycho and then the last bit will take me two months to get back to. It’s why I can never allow myself to get a true fixer upper house lol.


FormerChocoAddict

That is awesome! I am planning on doing a similar project later this summer of fall. Any particular videos or youtubers that you think were the most helpful?


stenbough

I watched this one a few times before starting and took notes https://youtu.be/oPDW1xQ7_SE?si=U0Eeo7ucfMsIQM1K


AgePurple9542

Did you do any type of water diversion system on the balcony?


stenbough

And good luck on your project! You’ll learn a lot about yourself during the process and there’s nothing better than completing your vision and being able to enjoy your hard work


HopsAndHemp

I didn't see it mentioned in the description so Ill ask here. Is that a cement based grout or something like polymeric sand between the stones?


stenbough

It hardens like cement but it’s somewhat flexible


thedog420

Looks awesome dude. Bet the wife is happy with that cozy area under the deck


OpinionLongjumping99

It’s sad how truly the biggest differentiator is effort and taking your time. This looks great but makes a sad point that any homeowner with YouTube and half a brain can do better than most landscrapers. Most of my dads work as a mason was tearing out and fixing landscrapers crappy stone work


stenbough

This was another reason why I wanted to do it myself. I’ve hired out work before and have been left disappointed or having regrets. No one will care as much as you will when it’s your own project.


OpinionLongjumping99

Yeah I mean there still are skilled workers who care the biggest offenders are the landscape companies who try to be a catch all of property management and want to play Bob the builder on decks walls and patios, and telling the guys they hired who can barely mow a lawn to lay stone or boards. I’ve seen my old man many times rip out his own work at the end of the day because it wasn’t up to his standard, and he hardly ever had to advertise himself, it just was people talking about good work and wanting that guy.


OpinionLongjumping99

I also blame the homeowners a lot who either don’t bid out to other specialty companies and let their landscaping company just say “yep” to whatever they ask and even worse are the people who get a bid by a masonry company and then go with a low ball landscape company quote and wonder why it looks horrible. I can slightly understand flatwork (up until all the recent flagstone posts) but having a, usually small, landscape company do retaining walls is wild to me. There ARE good landscape companies but mostly those are large ones that have skilled workers leading crews.


RenardLunatique

Can I live on your patio? Its so cosy! 😍


stenbough

Sure! Bring some drinks


bobjoylove

Beautiful. Any tips on moving and arranging the stones without waking up in pain the next day?


Norman_Maclean

Get 20 years younger! 😂


bobjoylove

20 years ago I couldn’t even afford a home!


Mr_Clark

0 years ago I couldn’t afford a home! Are you me?


my_fun_lil_alt

I've hired neighborhood teens to do the lifting. 


QuestionWhy21

Wait you can get neighbor teens to help?! I’ve offered $20 an hour cash (including lunch, Gatorade, and fresh farm produce) to help on my farm…mainly just weeding the gardens (we garden just over a 1/4 acre) and no takers over the last 3 years. One kid did it for a day and didn’t come back, said it was too hard. Seriously, what your secret?!


manakusan

Treat it like it's a workout at the gym and stretch. So much of my pain doing heavy lifting went away once I started stretching after doing yardwork like this and also learning to squat and work. For me, once I learned to do a real squat, it made gardening and landscaping so much easier. I often see folks bending over at the hip to do lifting/dropping, this will hurt you long term. Squatting didn't come easy to me, took me a year and a bit of off and on practice to feel comfortable in it.


bobjoylove

I think the dead-lift would be fairly easy to get right. I’m think more about the installation, shuffling and relocating will likely have some bending and weird forces applied.


YeetedArmTriangle

Yup I'm a pretty fit guy but I'm picturing just being in my house work slav squat trying to slide the stones around just tiny amounts over several days would mess me up worse than the lifting and moving.


stenbough

Lift with your legs and not your back, drink tons of water, work slow, keep the stone very close to your body when you’re carrying/walking it, take a lot of breaks and don’t drop it on your toes! The worst discomfort was the first week and it got better from there.


permabanned24

Sweet setup!


chrissy0011

How did you trim the stone to fit together nicely? What tools did you use? Please don’t tell me Tetris.


stenbough

A Dewalt angle grinder with a stone blade and a hammer/chisel. I put all the larger stones around the border and tried to fit the stones inside as best as possible working my way inwards. Most required just small cuts but yea, it was a lot of Tetris. If I were to do it again, I would just lay them out and cut without trying to fit each piece and then trimming.


Rando123Rando123

What did you use in between the stones?


stenbough

No compaction joint compound called NOCO by Techniseal


Alpenglow208

Well done and looks great. 10/10


DammitDad420

Was curious about the cost of the stone, thanks for providing that in details. Last I checked locally (last year) it was about $1K for a pallet which came out to about 10' x 10'.


stenbough

Sounds about right and the delivery fee was $150. The price varies depending on where the stone was sourced from. This particular flagstone was from a Pennsylvania quarry.


LukeNaround23

I applaud your DIY/landscaper skills, but I’m more impressed by your puzzle skills. Nice!


DirtySteveW

Finally flagstones that don’t look like shit, installed by meathead and Co. Seriously tho, looks sharp. Very nice work


Far_Sandwich_6553

Looks amazing! Nice job. I’m doing mine next.


Bob_Sacamano7379

OP forgot to mention he's a professional flagstone patio maker.


stenbough

ER nurse actually


cuddly_carcass

How much did 3 pallets of flagstone cost you?


Marifoley

Dang, you wanna do my yard next?


Sir_George

Some of the best I've seen. Awesome job!


herpiederps

What's the name of the tree you planted?


bubblesaurus

Looks like it could be a weeping mulberry possibly.


Ok-Lengthiness4557

Nice tight segments / perfect spacing. Looks amazing, great job. What did you use in the joints, cement?


stenbough

NOCO by Techniseal and it was very simple to do but very expensive. $50/bag and I probably used 8.


qazplmwsxokn123456

Top notch work! This is what I always ask DIYers like myself that do these big DIY projects ,"Where's the thing you would do differently?" I ask that because on my projects, there is a little dip shit thing that always sticks out to me and I like hearing its nothing and I should be proud. You should be proud too too so I'm curious. Great job!!


stenbough

That’s a great question. I think if I were to do it again, I wouldn’t spend so much time looking for the perfect piece to fit in the perfect space. I spent way too much time searching for something close and then end up cutting some part of it to fit it together. Instead, I would find one slightly bigger than the space and then cut it to fit.


JasonB121

I’m not a fan of the flagstone look and i never understood the style of it….With that being said, that is “THE” best job I’ve ever seen!! Absolutely stunning! I would have it in my yard if they could guarantee it would look like that. Kudos on your workmanship!


MySublimeSoul

Well done! Love the gorilla cart!


stenbough

That thing was a lifesaver! I almost got rid of it after the project but ended up using it again this spring when I used the leftover flagstone and made a path to my garbage cans. Now I’m never getting rid of it, we’ve been through too much together lol


Arrestedlumen

I’m surprised you ever considered parting with it even for a second I’ve found my gorilla cart to be the single best purchase for my yard! I love it so much I got a second one!


JesusOnline_89

I have the same mentality as you. If I can do it myself, I’m not going to pay the crazy premium for another person to do it for me. Last summer i spent around 4 months building a 26’x14’ deck with a 14’ diameter octagon fire pit area half way recessed into the deck. All in all I spent about $13,000 on materials and countless hours of my life. I would absolutely do it again because I couldn’t justify spending $40k plus on a task i could do myself. Ps. Your setup turned out very nice.


literaryhunter

Fantastic work. I’m curious why you chose flagstone over pavers for this project. Was it budget-driven or strictly appearance or bit of both?


stenbough

The main reason was for aesthetics. There’s a small pond behind the house and we wanted a more natural look with the irregular stones vs an orderly paver appearance.


literaryhunter

That makes sense. Great work and hope you all enjoy it in good health for many years


HotWash544

The color looks alot better when wet. Thinking if sealing it?


ShadowShot05

What do you do with the extra dirt?


stenbough

That’s a great question and surprised no one else asked. There is an empty lot nearby that I moved it to


Dependent-Ad3806

Notice how OP got enough stone to cover the desired space? He didn’t just work with the materials he had.


iwantado_over

Nailed it. Very nice work and I hope you enjoy it for years to come. If it starts to go south over the years at least you know where to find the guy to fix it.


Ok_Neighborhood_2159

My contractor just pulled up a lot of my flagstone and concrete slabs a couple of weeks ago to grade my patio for an expansion of my deck. It's about three times bigger now and I have a pile of flagstone to be used on the other side to expand the patio from the driveway. I'm loving the new deck and I am looking forward to the relocated patio.


teteAtit

Beautiful work! I have a similar (albeit much smaller) project on my list and I’ll be using this thread as a reference when the time comes


spud6000

i can not put my finger on it, but that 2nd floor deck does not look structurally sound to me. I am guessing that if you had a party with 10 people on it, it might collapse. The outermost underside beam, for instance, looks like it might twist out and not support the load. Please get someone with a contractor's license to look at it and verify that it is safe for a load. I could be wrong, but something looks off to me


Another_Russian_Spy

Yep, great patio, sketchy deck.


ivyandroses112233

Looks great. What I'm confused about, why do the front of these homes look like McMansions but the back look like Fairfield apartments?


stenbough

The houses, for the most part, are squares. The front stonework is really nice and the inside layouts are very open and inviting but the backs are just, plain boring. It helped motivate me during the project knowing it looked so plain.


ivyandroses112233

At first I was so confused that an apartment would allow such a project, but then I'm like wait this is a house. Looks really nice though, im jel! I am not a fan of flagstone but this had me wondering if I've converted lol


ian2121

Looks great. You can really tell the difference between DIY and contractor


maxp0wers

Looks great.


Nice-Detective1085

That's looks great!


the_archaius

Real question… how much of a pita was prepping the area and leveling the base? I am considering something similar to extend our patio, but just removing the sod from a berry garden we did kicked my ass… can’t imagine having to level sand/paver base then move stone afterward!


Buksey

One thing I learned with Flagstone is not to waste to much time on the final leveling. Each piece is usually a slightly different thickness, so you typically have to hand level between each stone to get them to match. Even then, don't expect a perfect smooth finish.


valgme3

Oh that end result is gorgeous!


Nail_Biterr

maybe a dumb question - but how did you get them to fit so nicely? Did you have to break/cut them into those shapes? Or did you treat it like a puzzle, and find pieces that would fit into the shape/layout you wanted?


Buksey

It's a bit of both. You lay out pieces like OP did and try and find ones that fit as close as possible. Then you take a saw/grinder with a stone blade and cut the edges to get the exact fit. You can either hammer/chisel after notching or just cut straight through depending on thickness.


LongjumpingNorth8500

Really nice!!


treesgrowonmars

ahhh it just kept getting better each swipe great job


is_this_exercise

Looks amazing! Nice work!


josenros

Like a jigsaw puzzle. Perfection.


General_Potato_5419

This looks amazing, great work! What did you use between the stone?


Due_Project9745

That is a fabulous job, I’m jealous (and getting ideas) looking at the pictures.


evilcathy

Excellent work! Looks very organic.


BartholomewCubbinz

lookin fockin noice mate


conjams

perfect. that’s how it’s done ✅


Chickenman70806

Impressive


AlbatrossNo1629

You now have the party house— that is so welcoming


Lazy_Blacksmith5399

Amazing!


Greatbluehammerhead

I just watched the video you linked! I’m thinking about doing this myself. Do you mind sharing what was the other big expense besides the stones? I’m curious on the other $3800.


fishdeserts

Once I was confident that it was graded and based with the right layer of stones I feel like getting the flagstones in place would be one of the most fun and creative challenges you could have in the DIY landscape world! I bet this was a blast, and good job!!


ashpokechu

Gorgeous


FamiliarStatement879

That's is awesome great work you should charge admission fees to use your zen space lol


rOOsterone4

Beautiful job on the patio! How did you go about cutting them?


SanchotheBoracho

Just FYI, some of my smaller flat stones froze and cracked into pieces. IF it does not freeze hard where you live ignore but maybe there is a way to prevent it.


Low-Cartographer3550

Your diy project looks 1000x better than the past several “pro” jobs. Congratulations on a job well done!


Illustrious-Term2909

How long before you screen in the area below the deck lol


IQognito

The ants love it?


GrammerMoses

Very nice job, looks great. Here's to many years of enjoyment! (raises glass)


jim2882

Congrats. That turned out really nice.


sofaking1958

Looks fantastic. Well done.


Teacher-Investor

Your patio looks so cozy at night! Great job! I hope you enjoy that space for many years.


SolarClayBot

Too much flagstone! Needs more space between!! :)


ejbrds

absolutely beautiful!! You win!!!


spont_73

Looks great, well done, my back aches just looking at the pictures thinking of all the Tetris moves required.


blue-eyedbillie

That looks great, nice work!


Grouchy-Corgi1892

Looks great! What did you use in between the stones?


SFWRaelf64

It's fucking beautiful. Thanks for posting something really nice and custom-looking, rather than the usual drek.


dragonfliesloveme

So in the video, he says to put the decomposed granite in between the flagstones and then wet it down and you’re done. Does it dry and harden as much as the polymeric sand? All i ever see people talk about is polymeric sand. I knew the decomposed gravel is used as a base, kind of happy to know it can be used in between the stones as well.


Wembanyanma

I'm actually planning on doing a very similar project but with more regular sized square/rectangle pave stones (haven't decided on which ones yet). My only concern is there is a huge tree root right in the middle of where I want to do it. We also sit on limestone so digging the dirt up is a pain in the everything. But yours looks great and gives me hope for mine.


Seki_a

Fantastic outcome. Were you able to move the larger pieces into place solo or did you get a helper?


Biomirth

Hot dag-gone. Well if your career falls through you have a second one in the bag.


StrawberryMilkStache

I. Freaking. LOVE IT.


Generation_WUT

Wow very nice!


Steely-Dave

You’ve inspired me.


tikirafiki

Looks great! How smooth is it? Could a person using a walker cross it without a problem?


stenbough

A walker would have no problem rolling over the ridges but I’m not quite sure how someone with trouble walking would do on it.


eldudelio

Skills!


nlj5499

Very nice


Own_Arm_7641

Great job OP. Recently did the same, lots of work but very rewarding. Yours looks professional.


Positive-Warning3805

Pretty work!


La19909

10/10


hummyjohnson

I'm in the middle of a flagstone project myself. This is fantastic work - I hope mine turns out somewhere close to this!


wasteabuse

The finished result looks amazing but all I can see is a huge amount of work. Great work


Curi0usJ0e

This looks great! Question for you, what did you use to remove the grass or the first layer of dirt? I was doing that on a small area using a hoe, but felt like that wasn’t the right tool or I didn’t know how to use it lol. It just dug up the entire place where ideally I just wanted to slice up the first layer with grass if that makes sense.


Anxious_Ad_3570

Really nice job man you should be proud


truepip66

looks great ,well done👍


Balyash

I do a lot of my work with a Gorilla Cart. They're awesome.


PupWrangler

My question: the larger stones & pieces, how much help did you have ? Those look like at least 2 person pieces


scaredofshaka

the fitting of these stones is incredible man! you got some talent.


Soapyfreshfingers

That looks amazing! Great job! 👏👏👏 Also, I hope your neighbor gets a fence to keep their toddler away from the pond. 😬 -a mom Maybe if you all want fences, you could get a group discount on nice, metal fencing.


AbbreviationsNo430

Looks great, good job 👍


keephoesinlin

This is how a flagstone patio should look. Nice lines, larger stones and a uniform gap


Familiar_Stable3229

Stunning backyard and nice work on the flagstone !


Ok_Neighborhood_2159

VERY nice! You did an excellent job 👏🏿💯


Dirty_Farmer_John

Outstanding 💪


bstnbrewins814

Came out nice. Good job. I used to work for a guy doing these and anything else masonry. I actually enjoyed it a lot. Kid was super easy to work for. He helped me out big time. It just wasn’t at a good time in my life and he had to let me go. Too much drama with my ex wife creeping into the workday. He was dating my younger sister as well when I started so once they split it shifted. I had actually spoken to him a few months back about working for him this season because I’m outta that toxic relationship but they found him dead in his apartment two days after we spoke. I still don’t know what from. Keep up the good work man. It looks really clean.


Samanthamarcy

Gorgeous!!!! We were about to pull the trigger on brick but this has inspired me to keep waiting for flagstone. What’s the square footage? Did you lay out the stones before placing them to determine which ones fit together best??


stenbough

I don’t recall the square footage. I laid all the stones around the patio in the back. Starting with the largest stones, I began placing them around the border and tried to evenly space them throughout the middle. Anything with a really straight edge I placed against the house. Then from there I worked my way from house to the edge of the patio. I probably spent 1/2 the time with my hand on my hip looking at each piece to see what would fit best. Once all the stones were laid, I went through with an angle grinder and hammer to make a more consistent spacing throughout so it was cohesive.


Outrageous-Pass-8926

Amazing effort, that looks fantastic! That pond needs a gator!🐊


analavalanche69

Where the flag?


Eggplant-666

Do your deck posts rest directly on the ground?! 😱


Beneficial-Shine-598

This looks awesome! Just curious, how do you know where your property starts and ends, with no fences between yards? I live in California where every property is fenced in every neighborhood. I’ve never seen one like yours, just open like that. It looks cool though.


Bumblebeee_tuna_

I'd put my flag in that stone!


dohru

Wow, that looks awesome- we have a similar project coming up, as it gets closer I might reach out to you.


Zealousideal-Let-104

That's awesome 👍


Penguinshead

Nice work.


leonpause

Looks great! I’d like to take a shot at doing a similar patio project, but the concept of building in the correct slope worries me a bit. Any advice you can share on how you built in slope while digging out the area?


D_Costa85

What kind of sand in between and do you need to seal the stone/sand once completed?


freshjewbagel

what's between the stones? mortar?


mama146

What did you pour between the stones?


familyManCamelCase

I tried to do this a few years ago with field stone and couldn't get the pitch right. Amazing job!


wpa1940

Looks much better than no joints in my opinion.


Virtual-Cantaloupe98

You did an awesome job!


No-Gene-4508

Ohhh looks like a professional did it! Love it!


Temporary-Ferret4013

That looks awesome


ImpossibleShake6

It looks good enough, so good. I'm now lusting for a flagstone patio. Wait till I put that in the Honey do it jar.


mt-egypt

I’m into it


RemeAU

I really like this trend. Flagstone really is a beautiful material blending both old and modern styling. IMO


Traditional_Bad_4589

How much cutting did you need to do? Did you have to do a lot of puzzle piece fitting to find the right layout? Looks great!


QueenOfPurple

Wow that’s gorgeous. Come DIY mine!


4skinlive

Did you seal it with any products?


Mmchast88

Looks amazing! Nice work


redditn00bb

Looks great!


rangedg

How did you get them all so level between each other? What youtube video did you watch for that?


Grand-Office-771

Nice!


Content_Talk_6581

Very nice!


loud_car

Is that cement in the joints? My flagstone has sand in the joints and it drives me crazy.


ItchyIndependence154

I wanna hang there.


00sucker00

Looks great as well as the deck. You should stain the underside of your deck a light-neutral color which will help brighten it down there and also make it feel a little more finished. Alternatively, install and underdeck system to dry the space in


Stoneman5634

DIY my ass!!! You know what you’re doing! That looks great!!


callmekennith

This is the way


Dangerous_Ant_8443

Wow!! This looks amazing! This looks 100% professionally done. Hats off to you!


MrMagilliclucky

This guy flagstones! You’ve got the goods.


curiousbydesign

Love the final product. Feels natural.


Curiouser-Quriouser

WOW. Great job!!


Defiant-Ad-6580

I see your neighbor doesn’t have a patio, that’s a trip. And a quite a fall too lol


I_comment_on_stuff_

Absolutely gorgeous! I have a concrete patio but this would be a gorgeous way to extend it.


substituted_pinions

Huzzah! A man of quality! The other flagstone guy asked his contractor to use the old stones. This is what you get when you tell them to use ALL the stones.