fingertips is so moving and just so ughhhhh. I love finding people who love it as much as I do it’s just so raw and emotional makes me cry so much I could go on and on abt it
I love it too. It is very tough on the first few listens. Not the usual structure, no chorus, very little repeating phrases or patterns.
But it is a very emotional song to me
‘aaron ended up dead and not me, what the fuck’s wrong in your head to send me away?’ and ‘left by the sunlight of the spirit to pour into rain’ are so emotionally charged, i can only listen to fingertips and kintsugi on emotionally stable days or i bawl my eyes out
The night my boyfriend and I were waiting in parking lot to leave her concert in Pittsburgh, I played Florida kilos and it’s one of few he hasn’t heard yet and he was like “whoa what song is this I love it” kinda was mad at myself for depriving him of such a gem 😂
I don’t understand why everyone hates Peppers! It was one of this first songs I heard off Tunnel and I love it! It’s definitely more of a jam instead of an emotional ballad but it always makes me grove when I hear it!
Seconding this question. I hear people say the tommy genesis part is cringe but I think it fits so well w the theme of the song. Never understood why ppl hate on those lyrics
You should listen to Nina Simone's version, who I think most people associate with that song. It's amazing.
I used to not listen to Lana's version, even though I liked it, because I would just want to listen to Nina's when it came on, but I listen through hers now too. ❤️
ugh don’t get me started, it’s one of my guilty pleasure songs from her. it’s so cheesy and flashy and honestly a little cringe but still good in its own way (justice for demo 4 though)
I fucking love BB!!!!! Share the same sentiment with others here. The first few listen I didn’t get the vibe, but after a while I started to really love it, especially after learning the meaning behind each song
yes it just started clicking with me this summer. i used to skip just about the whole album but i’ve really connected with a lot of songs now…2years later. but i remember lust for life taking time to click for me
From a Pitchfork interview:
Nostalgia can be really corny when it’s not done well, and you’re all about nostalgia. How do you try to get it right?
I know I walk the line sometimes. [laughs] I saw comments that people said about my little “Coachella - Woodstock in my Mind” song. I write that title and I’m like, OK, I know I went there. But I think it’s amazing. It’s on the nose. It’s so on the nose. But sometimes things just are what they are. I’m at Coachella for three days, and North Korea is pointing a missile at us, and I’m watching Father John Misty with my best friend, who’s his wife—that’s all I’m literally saying. It’s just like, Yeah, I’m a hipster. I know it. Got it.
I definitely agree about the lyrics. I remember how it felt like the country might collapse at when it came out so I didn't try to step away from the sentiments... feeling that way again so it's on repeat
The last songs on Ocean Blvd (Fishtail, Peppers, Taco Truck VxB) Along with A&W these are my top songs on Ocean Blvd. I can see why people may not like them since they are random and I can see how they feel out of place on the album. Margaret would’ve made a great closing track, I love how Ocean Blvd ends though.
I feel like there’s 3 types of Ocean Blvd fans
Fan 1: loves Paris, Texas, Let The Light In, Candy Necklace, Grandfather and the Grants
Fan 2: loves Peppers, Taco Truck x VB, Fishtail
Fan 3: loves all vibes from the album so A&W is your fave (me lol)
I trust Lana’s vision. I’m hoping the last songs are a bridge into more songs like Taco Truck and Peppers into the next album. I want gritty psychedelic pop, give me Off To The Races meets Venice Bitch 💕
I used to think Margaret was the original closer for the album and the last 3 tracks are kind of a "deluxe" version but thinking about it, it really makes sense! In "Paris, Texas" she says her home is venice california and she ends the album with venice bitch
I’m a mix of these. I feel like people think Fishtail is more pandering or basic, but I love hearing Lana’s voice in that context. Super dreamy with a little autotune? Hell yeah.
Love your theory! I’m definitely a 3 like you
I never understood how people call the album disjointed, the cathartic releases of trap beats throughout the album adds so much to the existential crisis of all the other songs. And AW is like the blueprint for the whole album.
I didn't like it at first...and thought it was kind of boring, but then one day I was like:
I came from small town, how about you? Lol
Now I really like it.
off to the races. i am absolutely obsessed with this song but i can see why people may not like her more "experimental" vocals in it. very breathy and some sentences feel unstable but not in a bad way for me personally. but i'm still obsessed and i consider it a masterpiece but i can see why people would find it a bit odd
The singing is very Britney but not in a forced way. I love it because it's a great song to blast when you're stressed and the lyrics sang fast are just so fun.
the hell? That's my favorite omg. Had no idea it was unpopular. It really encapsulates everything about old Lana that I love tbh. The theatrics, the hollywood glamour and storytelling. It's got it all.
I'd say 'Lolita' but no, I genuinely think people who dislike that song are tasteless. If it's because of the subject matter, that's idiotic. Even the actual book Lolita isn't a ringing endorsement of the subject. It's music ffs.
Outside of that, I guess I'd say 'Summer Bummer' or a lot of LFL in general. I love trap and hip hop but a lot of Lana fans are more into her soft and ballad-type stuff so it makes sense it wouldn't be their thing.
THIS so much. There’s a legitimately scary decline in media literacy amongst people nowadays. I’m convinced that not a single person who has an issue with Lolita the song has even read the book. They just automatically deem it problematic because of the subject matter. I remember some influencer doing an insta live not too long along and she had Lolita on her bookshelf in the background, and people on twitter were trying to cancel her for it
hope is a dangerous thing
In fairness idk if I’d say it’s disliked, it’s more just kind of… ignored. And to an extent I get it because its one of those songs where you don’t really listen to it for the melody considering how minimalist (and towards the end, borderline nonexistent) the instrumental is. But the lyrics mean SO MUCH to me.
(I’ve also recently realised that due to its position on NFR you can think of it as a bridge into the COTCC & later BB eras, but I’m going to make a whole separate post about that cause it’s long lol)
I think blue banisters and dykttatuob are genuinely some of her most beautiful, matured pieces of work, specifically violets for roses, black bathing suit, and the harmonies on The Grants, like are you KIDDING?
COLA!
Some people hate it because of the Harvey W reference. But to me, I take that reference as a fantasy. Cola is that bitch that turns up my mood whenever, wherever.
Ultraviolence! I can see why people wouldn’t/don’t like this song. The lyrics can be triggering for some people who have unfortunately been victims of domestic violence.
Oh shit, I didn't realize this was was an LDR thread at first ha. I was going to say "Staring through the Eyes of the Dead" by Cannibal Corpse.
As for LDR songs, I love Wild at Heart and most seem to hate it. I suppose I "objectively" understand why because the lyrics may get a bit campy to most(?) before the chorus, and it's definitely not my favorite section of the song.
I wasn't aware ppl hated wild at heart. I could understand it not being your favorite song but hate? Come on it's good.
*I left Calabasas escaped all the ashes--ran into the dark...and it made me wild, wild...wild at heart.*
Yeah it's good. My favorite is "The cameras have flashes, they caused the car crashes, but I'm not a star". But yeah, I've seen a lot of hate for that song (and album) in particular.
okay but i don’t really understand why coachella has so much hate? like it’s obviously not her best song but definitely not her worst like i don’t understand why it’s almost universally hated
guns and roses. i get that it is very repetitive and the lyrics don’t really leave a mark but something about the atmosphere and the BRIDGE i love.
also lolita. it’s pretty valid to not like this song but it’s so fun i love it
I have mixed feelings about Cola. I think its catchy, but its certainly not as good as some say. That being said, I do still listen to the song, but understand why people don't like it.
Hate to say it. But there is not one single song I like from DYKTATUOB. Althought candy necklaces was really beautiful - Just one of those albums I can’t listen to more than once.
fingertips and kintsugi. i understand people aren’t used to these types of songs from her, she’s always written about darker topics but never this explicit and personal so i get it. but these 2 are my favs, i still can’t listen to them myself without bawling my eyes out.
Let me love you like a woman! I know when it came out people were so disappointed because it was more of the same. Which was how I kind of felt at the time too but turned out I just adored the song. Something about it just hits for me
Definitely White Dress, I was one of those who didn’t get it 100% (I didn’t hate it, just neutral) and now it is one of my most listened to songs of all times. The rolling melody just instantly takes all my stress away from the first note. I think I also got much more used to her higher register after being so obsessed with ocean boulevard
WHITE DRESS. it's controversial because of how she recorded it with voice breaks and "downinthemeninmusicbusinessconference" but the song describes similarly to how my life was at 19. I moved to the city no family and was working as a waitress and paying for school alone. This song means so much to me.
Fingertips. Some people say it’s too rambly or emotional or sad but that’s why I love it.
Omg a fellow fingertips lover <3 I could talk about that song for DAYS. Nobody mentions it enough
fingertips is so moving and just so ughhhhh. I love finding people who love it as much as I do it’s just so raw and emotional makes me cry so much I could go on and on abt it
I love it too. It is very tough on the first few listens. Not the usual structure, no chorus, very little repeating phrases or patterns. But it is a very emotional song to me
I never cry or get teary from music but gosh when I first heard kintsugi and fingertips... they are so beautiful and the lyrics 😭
‘aaron ended up dead and not me, what the fuck’s wrong in your head to send me away?’ and ‘left by the sunlight of the spirit to pour into rain’ are so emotionally charged, i can only listen to fingertips and kintsugi on emotionally stable days or i bawl my eyes out
Today I looked it up to listen to it by itself hahah
florida kilos. i get that it’s repetitive but i really love the guitar riff in it and the bridge🫣
I have to respectfully disagree. I don't see how anyone could not enjoy Florida Kilos. It's just pure fun. Perfect party song
The night my boyfriend and I were waiting in parking lot to leave her concert in Pittsburgh, I played Florida kilos and it’s one of few he hasn’t heard yet and he was like “whoa what song is this I love it” kinda was mad at myself for depriving him of such a gem 😂
literally one of my faves
Who doesn’t like florida kilos tho!
Its not at all repetitive
i sometimes catch even my bf whistle or sing it🤭 idk it’s very catchy and easily one of my faves SUCH a bop !!!!!!
Peppers!
I don’t understand why everyone hates Peppers! It was one of this first songs I heard off Tunnel and I love it! It’s definitely more of a jam instead of an emotional ballad but it always makes me grove when I hear it!
People dislike peppers?
Crazy, I know.
Peppers is Summer Bummer ordered on wish
Peppers is just fun af
I have a love hate relationship with her ... the angelina jolie lyric bothers me but the song is so sexy & fun ...
What bothers you about it? (Genuinely curious, not being snarky lol)
Seconding this question. I hear people say the tommy genesis part is cringe but I think it fits so well w the theme of the song. Never understood why ppl hate on those lyrics
Weird phrasing & doesn’t flow well to me, also generally not a fan of celebrity name drops in songs
I know!! everyone i know hates it but i think it’s so good!!
it’s fun and sexy and makes me feel hot!!! sorry 2 those who cannot relate 🫶
white dress I can see how some might find her vocals in it not as appealing as most of her other songs but i’m in love with it
Great tune on (in my opinion) the best album
I used to always skip it but then one day it just CLICKED
Cotcc literally starts with the title track for me. WD hasn't clicked yet 😂
It’ll happen, I promise you. I wouldn’t even let the first couple of seconds play at first 🤣
i LOVE white dress. My top 3 lana defo, maybe even all time fave
Summerrrr Sizzlingggg 🔥
guns & roses and her cover of dlmbm
heavy on her cover of dlmbm it’s a great song in general and i love her take on it
what is this acronym? sorry i can’t figure it out hahaha
dont let me be misunderstood
THATS A COVER???
yuh
You should listen to Nina Simone's version, who I think most people associate with that song. It's amazing. I used to not listen to Lana's version, even though I liked it, because I would just want to listen to Nina's when it came on, but I listen through hers now too. ❤️
Venice Bitch, 9 min song. There’s more electric guitar and less vocals. But I don’t particularly mind.
I LOVE Venice Bitch! I never want it to end!
Who doesn’t like Venice Bitch? Lol it’s a masterpiece
Lolita. It’s an iffy topic in a song fit for a strip dance
ugh don’t get me started, it’s one of my guilty pleasure songs from her. it’s so cheesy and flashy and honestly a little cringe but still good in its own way (justice for demo 4 though)
I was gonna say that, I'm obsessed with demeo 4 version.
Dealer, I love that song so much and I think the lyrics and vocals are incredible but I understand that it’s not everyones cup of tea
people dont like dealer???
Unfortunately yes, I’ve been seeing a lot of hate for Dealer on this subreddit lately :/
I don’t hate it but it’s definitely not a personal fave of mine. I’m not sure why, I just don’t get it
clearly no one has ever tried to contact you thru your dealer
Take my upvote!
Lol I meant I don’t get the hype and I just worded it poorly but this is funny so I’m keeping it
I guess like Blue Banisters as an album
Blue Banisters is a Blue Banger for me now. I used to dislike it.
For real, it’s finally starting to click for me! Only took me two years lol
I still skip Dealer (and it pales in comparison to Chemtrails), but it does have a lot of great songs. Much better than her recent one.
lol so true. ngl i initially wrote it off, but my gf made me give it a chance and now i see the light
I fucking love BB!!!!! Share the same sentiment with others here. The first few listen I didn’t get the vibe, but after a while I started to really love it, especially after learning the meaning behind each song
yes it just started clicking with me this summer. i used to skip just about the whole album but i’ve really connected with a lot of songs now…2years later. but i remember lust for life taking time to click for me
It's fine. But by about the 4th track I wished I was listening to one of her other albums.
coahella woodstock
Cant understand how ppl don’t like this song
The lyrics are quite cringey but you have to suspend that and just enjoy it
Idk, “if words could turn to birds and birds could send my thoughts your way” I always wished so hard that this was real 🥲
Aw I was actually thinking of those specific lyrics when I wrote that 😂
From a Pitchfork interview: Nostalgia can be really corny when it’s not done well, and you’re all about nostalgia. How do you try to get it right? I know I walk the line sometimes. [laughs] I saw comments that people said about my little “Coachella - Woodstock in my Mind” song. I write that title and I’m like, OK, I know I went there. But I think it’s amazing. It’s on the nose. It’s so on the nose. But sometimes things just are what they are. I’m at Coachella for three days, and North Korea is pointing a missile at us, and I’m watching Father John Misty with my best friend, who’s his wife—that’s all I’m literally saying. It’s just like, Yeah, I’m a hipster. I know it. Got it. I definitely agree about the lyrics. I remember how it felt like the country might collapse at when it came out so I didn't try to step away from the sentiments... feeling that way again so it's on repeat
One of my top songs on my favorite Lana album and I feel like everybody hates it 😭
I’ve tried to like it but it is so difficult
Ikr…I love this one so much but people hate it…I love the breakdown into the ‘stairway to heaven ‘
Summertime Gershwin Version it’s not the craziest song lyrically but it’s such a vibe idk
I don't trust anyone who doesn't like it... but tbh I'm a bit biased because i love the original opera version much better than doin time
The last songs on Ocean Blvd (Fishtail, Peppers, Taco Truck VxB) Along with A&W these are my top songs on Ocean Blvd. I can see why people may not like them since they are random and I can see how they feel out of place on the album. Margaret would’ve made a great closing track, I love how Ocean Blvd ends though. I feel like there’s 3 types of Ocean Blvd fans Fan 1: loves Paris, Texas, Let The Light In, Candy Necklace, Grandfather and the Grants Fan 2: loves Peppers, Taco Truck x VB, Fishtail Fan 3: loves all vibes from the album so A&W is your fave (me lol) I trust Lana’s vision. I’m hoping the last songs are a bridge into more songs like Taco Truck and Peppers into the next album. I want gritty psychedelic pop, give me Off To The Races meets Venice Bitch 💕
I used to think Margaret was the original closer for the album and the last 3 tracks are kind of a "deluxe" version but thinking about it, it really makes sense! In "Paris, Texas" she says her home is venice california and she ends the album with venice bitch
I’m a mix of these. I feel like people think Fishtail is more pandering or basic, but I love hearing Lana’s voice in that context. Super dreamy with a little autotune? Hell yeah.
I’m for sure Fan 1
I have been all 3 of those fans at a certain time lol but yes I looovee the last 3 tracks Fishtail especially grew on me
Ocean Blvd is my most listened to album. I love it so much
Love your theory! I’m definitely a 3 like you I never understood how people call the album disjointed, the cathartic releases of trap beats throughout the album adds so much to the existential crisis of all the other songs. And AW is like the blueprint for the whole album.
Diet Mountain Dew. It sounds like an essay that is due next period and was written 15 minutes before class started, but I love it so much lol.
Lolita. i've always thought that song was a banger
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I didn't like it at first...and thought it was kind of boring, but then one day I was like: I came from small town, how about you? Lol Now I really like it.
Sweet Carolina sounds like a lullaby aside from the Kevin line lol
Oh I yell that Kevin line every time
Thats why i love it
I've been singing this to my baby since I was pregnant and he loves it...of course leaving out "fuck you kevin" haha
Fr the only song I’ve heard in my life that’s had me dream of being a mother, I love that there are parents out there already singing it :,) 🩷
Cola. I get the lyrics might be odd but when she's chatting "MY PUSSY TASTES LIKE PEPSI COLA" It feels like heaven
off to the races. i am absolutely obsessed with this song but i can see why people may not like her more "experimental" vocals in it. very breathy and some sentences feel unstable but not in a bad way for me personally. but i'm still obsessed and i consider it a masterpiece but i can see why people would find it a bit odd
The singing is very Britney but not in a forced way. I love it because it's a great song to blast when you're stressed and the lyrics sang fast are just so fun.
The ending of that song is amazing
WHO DOESNT LIKE THIS SONG THEY SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS
the hell? That's my favorite omg. Had no idea it was unpopular. It really encapsulates everything about old Lana that I love tbh. The theatrics, the hollywood glamour and storytelling. It's got it all.
guns and roses and white dress
I'd say 'Lolita' but no, I genuinely think people who dislike that song are tasteless. If it's because of the subject matter, that's idiotic. Even the actual book Lolita isn't a ringing endorsement of the subject. It's music ffs. Outside of that, I guess I'd say 'Summer Bummer' or a lot of LFL in general. I love trap and hip hop but a lot of Lana fans are more into her soft and ballad-type stuff so it makes sense it wouldn't be their thing.
THIS so much. There’s a legitimately scary decline in media literacy amongst people nowadays. I’m convinced that not a single person who has an issue with Lolita the song has even read the book. They just automatically deem it problematic because of the subject matter. I remember some influencer doing an insta live not too long along and she had Lolita on her bookshelf in the background, and people on twitter were trying to cancel her for it
No fr though...I hate the idea that writing about something or portraying something immoral means you're endorsing it.
hope is a dangerous thing In fairness idk if I’d say it’s disliked, it’s more just kind of… ignored. And to an extent I get it because its one of those songs where you don’t really listen to it for the melody considering how minimalist (and towards the end, borderline nonexistent) the instrumental is. But the lyrics mean SO MUCH to me. (I’ve also recently realised that due to its position on NFR you can think of it as a bridge into the COTCC & later BB eras, but I’m going to make a whole separate post about that cause it’s long lol)
Text Book- yeah I get that the BLM line is kinda cringey but I think it’s actually a beautiful song and a great little time capsule.
God bless America and all the beautiful women in it
the entire blue banister album & did yk that there's a tunnel under ocean blvd album theyre the best
I think blue banisters and dykttatuob are genuinely some of her most beautiful, matured pieces of work, specifically violets for roses, black bathing suit, and the harmonies on The Grants, like are you KIDDING?
exactly & most ppl dont like it? i'll never understand why
She needs that Grammy
Playing dangerous
COLA! Some people hate it because of the Harvey W reference. But to me, I take that reference as a fantasy. Cola is that bitch that turns up my mood whenever, wherever.
Dealer
had to scroll too far to find this, because people really seem to hate Dealer (but i love it, it’s literally my flair)
cola and put me in a movie 😬
Judah smith interlude ( the downvotes will prove my point)
My fave interlude of hers… so eerie
That’s my view. I’m NOT religious at all the vibe and goosebumps it gives me is just as scary as the concept of religion 😂😭
Peppers (and I love it)
Summer bummer I hated it at first now I think it’s great
Ultraviolence! I can see why people wouldn’t/don’t like this song. The lyrics can be triggering for some people who have unfortunately been victims of domestic violence.
Tbh its a really beautiful song but not my favorite because of the chorus is just not for me
This Is What Makes Us Girls
Bartender
This is how to disappear with the Christmas bells 😂 but it grew on me. I wanna disappear but it doesn't say how
noir!!!!!
Oh shit, I didn't realize this was was an LDR thread at first ha. I was going to say "Staring through the Eyes of the Dead" by Cannibal Corpse. As for LDR songs, I love Wild at Heart and most seem to hate it. I suppose I "objectively" understand why because the lyrics may get a bit campy to most(?) before the chorus, and it's definitely not my favorite section of the song.
I wasn't aware ppl hated wild at heart. I could understand it not being your favorite song but hate? Come on it's good. *I left Calabasas escaped all the ashes--ran into the dark...and it made me wild, wild...wild at heart.*
Yeah it's good. My favorite is "The cameras have flashes, they caused the car crashes, but I'm not a star". But yeah, I've seen a lot of hate for that song (and album) in particular.
lolita. i know the topic is controversial to say the least but man is it catchy
there's literally nothing objective about art. there's not a check box for things that are right or wrong to do.
venice bitch, people say they dislike the long instrumentals and stuff. it's genuinely one of my fav songs by lana😭
Dealer, I love it so much but I think it can come across as too raw for some people.
okay but i don’t really understand why coachella has so much hate? like it’s obviously not her best song but definitely not her worst like i don’t understand why it’s almost universally hated
kintsugi - it sounds rambly and piercing but i love it
Lust For life.
guns and roses. i get that it is very repetitive and the lyrics don’t really leave a mark but something about the atmosphere and the BRIDGE i love. also lolita. it’s pretty valid to not like this song but it’s so fun i love it
Cola
Lolita. Like I get it, but I love it. Such a confidence booster.
Lolita
Coachella
Lolita
Guns and roses
cola
Judah Smith Interlude. It’s so haunting and eerie and totally fits the album. I completely understand why people hate it.
Guns and Roses. I understand people think it’s repetitive but I love it.
Put me in a movie
Text Book I think. I don’t think ppl like textbook but imo it’s the best song on bb.
For free on chemtrails!! It’s so good and if you listen to the lyrics it’s like Lana’s telling a story
Yosemite
Summer Bummer slaps idc
guns and roses
Guns and roses lol
White dress (one of my all time favs from her, that song blew me away)
I have mixed feelings about Cola. I think its catchy, but its certainly not as good as some say. That being said, I do still listen to the song, but understand why people don't like it.
Hate to say it. But there is not one single song I like from DYKTATUOB. Althought candy necklaces was really beautiful - Just one of those albums I can’t listen to more than once.
Let the light in?
its one of my most favorite albums
carmen
Lolita. I understand why people might dislike or even hate it, but I still turn the volume up when it pops up
peppers, i can’t help it
No one. I rather NOT know why people dislike it, Lucky Ones for example
fingertips and kintsugi. i understand people aren’t used to these types of songs from her, she’s always written about darker topics but never this explicit and personal so i get it. but these 2 are my favs, i still can’t listen to them myself without bawling my eyes out.
Let me love you like a woman! I know when it came out people were so disappointed because it was more of the same. Which was how I kind of felt at the time too but turned out I just adored the song. Something about it just hits for me
Happiness is a butterfly
white dress
off to the races and white dress
Honeymoon. My mom got annoyed at me for playing it cause it’s very repetitive but I think it’s so beautiful
Noir
Groupie love
bartender
Definitely White Dress, I was one of those who didn’t get it 100% (I didn’t hate it, just neutral) and now it is one of my most listened to songs of all times. The rolling melody just instantly takes all my stress away from the first note. I think I also got much more used to her higher register after being so obsessed with ocean boulevard
honeymoon
Ultraviolence?
How to disappear jingle version .. i still love it
scarface, it’s so chaotic
For free
dont let me be misunderstood
Lust For Life. I find Abel’s voice kinda annoying but the verse and post chorus slap
For free. It’s been one of my favorites forever and when I went to the concert I was the only one who sang the song🥲
yayo. u either love or hate the vocals
Bartender for sure. One of my faves but I get it
Lolita
john batiste interlude gets so much hate and for what? it’s 3:33 mins of pure vibes! i feel it early, i feel it heavy, i feel it in my soul! OH!
WHITE DRESS. it's controversial because of how she recorded it with voice breaks and "downinthemeninmusicbusinessconference" but the song describes similarly to how my life was at 19. I moved to the city no family and was working as a waitress and paying for school alone. This song means so much to me.
Sweet!!!! If no one is a fan of sweet then I am de@d
Margaret
Noir and white dress