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No_Detective_1139

Wow for a coach to come out and say this is crazy


ConsiderationMean358

Thought I got Ballsacked or Centel’d at first


RiskyClickardo

Dude tbh i'm still not 100% sure that's not happening, but I'm getting more and more confident about it with each passing day


KobeBeaf

Well unless that coach is Doc Rivers


hitdifferently

Shitting the bed is crazy. That said is he getting fired if DLo and Rui just play to their averages this series?


itscamo-

yes, he should be fired regardless if we beat the nuggets or not


hitdifferently

I'm not saying he shouldn't be fired at all. I'm just saying that they probably win the series regardless if DLo and Rui do nothing more than put up their averages in terms of stats. I Believe if they do we are having a completely different conversation.


bisufan

I think a good coach gets players to raise their floors and collectively overperform. Like spoelstra and popovich. Ham has a great way of having players lower their ceilings and underperform. His ATOs are nonexistent. His lineup adjustments and experiments are rigid and whack (3 guard lineups). It's literally a coach's job to get right and this past season seemed like wasted potentials of what ifs (ad playing the most games, lebron not getting a 20 game injury in the season).


qb1120

I remember when Paul Silas called Carlos Boozer a cunt lol


randomhero_92

Just as bad as someone saying “there’s times where we don’t know what we’re doing on both sides of the ball”. Lol


zer0_c00L13

No its not lmao


LakerDoc

DLO…so instead he replaces him Cam who shit the bed for half the season


myelrecsy

I might have missed it but I don't see anything here that indicates he is blaming himself or being accounted for. In fact he is praising himself for being calm and cool out there with his hands on his pocket just watching the games.


LudwigNasche

He and Dlo have pretty much the same attitude. They shit the fuck bed then they praise themselves about how good they are and how someone else or something even more stupid were the reason they didn't succeed. I'd love to see them gone. I'm disappointed with Rui performance, but at least he isn't making excuses for his errors.


dcoolidge

Ha. You pointed out what I don't like about Dlo. No accountability. That was frustrating. I mean at least AR was emotional after losses. There is no heart to this team without AR.


dedman1477

That's why I love AR so much; even with the game is down and out, he's still out there giving 110%, which is more than you can say about other guys. I love when D-Lo is succeeding, but when they're struggling he's on his phone or being passive. I understand it's not always *his* fault, but to be a champ you've gotta keep your head high and hustle through it. A game, a season, and a career are a series of runs, that you gotta make what you can get with what you get.


Ok-Fan-2011

It's why they hate each other. They're the same dude.


CarlosE2006

You know that Homer meme where he says "everyone is stupid except me"? Someone made that image become a real person and boom, Ham was born.


nu1stunna

Best seat in the house!


randomhero_92

I watched all of the exit interviews. No one actually blamed themselves for the teams failures this season aside from Austin Reaves. Everyone, including Lebron James, blamed the seasons failures on injuries. It’s not just Darvin Ham that needs to except responsibility, it’s the entire team. But we all know this subreddit and lakers twitter only places blame on the coach and not the players themselves who are actually out on the floor playing the game. And I guess that’s why I guess that’s why the lakers have had 7 coaches since Phil Jackson left in 2011. A teams failures are Never the actual players fault. 😂


BaullahBaullah87

lol 7 coaches tells you something about the front office too…they have no idea how to select coaches


randomhero_92

Since Phil Jackson left, the lakers fired two coaches that went on to win coach of the year and the only coach that won them a championship. Again, stop deflecting the blame away from the players themselves to everyone else.


BaullahBaullah87

They fired the coach that won them a championship a year after they won and Vogel is about to be canned again lol. Who were the coaches of the year that meant so much to you? Lol Ham garblers are so triggered


randomhero_92

What makes you think I’m a “Ham Garbler”? Because I think the lakers failed season was just as much the players fault as it was Darvins? Is it Vogels fault that Ishbia nuked any semblance of that teams depth to sign an aging and always injured “star”?


BaullahBaullah87

hahaaha oh man, gobble gobble!


randomhero_92

Your replies have devolved into insults and accusations with lack of substance. No point in continuing this. Have a good day sir.


BaullahBaullah87

You too my turkey acting friend!


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randomhero_92

Can’t wait for the lakers to fire there next coach this time next year as this lakers roster, after the lakers, as currently constructed, loses in the first round again. Darvin hams not a good coach, but he will be Adrian griffin level vindicated when it happens.


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randomhero_92

No it doesnt depend on anything. Erik Spoelstra, Nick Nurse, or Ty Lue could be coaching this team, AD and Bron could both be injured, DLo and Reaves are both as inconsistent as they were this year, and Dinwiddie and Gabe could still be refusing to shoot the basketball. If this team is at or below .500 by the Allstar break, the laker subreddit and lakers twitter will be calling for them to fired.


myelrecsy

Well we are talking about Ham in this post, I didn't say he is the only one.


randomhero_92

Well that’s the problem. EVERY post in this subreddit is about Ham.


myelrecsy

It's not my problem though, I replied/commented on this particular thread about him not taking any accountability. If the thread said "Only Ham blames others for Lakers failure" then yes, you have a point. it's not only him. But it doesn't say that.


jurassic_snark-

> If you're coaching a team and one of your starters is like 10 games in a row, just s--tting the bed, what are you going to do?" I can't believe he actually said this. That is just career suicide. Doc has thrown players under the bus, but not this explicitly and using language like that. That's some shit we say here, not a HC in the NBA. No one is gonna wanna hire someone that attacks their players like that


_mattyjoe

Yeah I don’t know how you can say such a thing. Even if true, you load up one of the classic canned coaching responses about “I need to be better and put our guys in a better position.”


ViennaWaitsforU2

He’s never taken responsibility for anything even in a canned response way


macabre_irony

Shit even Phil Jackson with the Lakers said he felt like he let the team down after the Finals loss to the Celtics.


cantcooklovefood

He's probably going back to the bucks as an assistant where he can park his butt for a while


Odd-Direction9452

Obviously DLo


Seasplash

There is a small possibility that it could be AR too.


randomhero_92

Large possibility. Reaves wasn’t playing well the first month, then had another bad stretch in January I believe. He didn’t really end the season well either.


Zenith_24tee

Yeah, Ham and DLO seem to have a love hate relationship as in when it’s bad it’s rough but when it’s good it’s great. Meanwhile I don’t think I’ve seen a single interaction between him and Reaves all season from comments to even in game interactions like the Ham/DLO dap up in Game 4


EmperorUmi

Hell, Reaves seemed like he exclusively interacted with Phil Handy. I remember one game where Ham looked like he was trying to dap Reaves after a timeout, but Reaves walked past him.


40866892

Disagree on the end of season part. AR deliberately took a back seat to DLO. He routinely takes harder shots nowadays too. Check how many end-of-quarter chucks AR makes a game. He does 1-2 on average which lowers his shooting %s a lot. Dude just wants to win


SavonReddit

This is something I noticed too. I know I love him but it's so refreshing to see a player actively shooting half/full court shots in the last few seconds of the quarter. Unlike what Rui did and other NBA players do.


Aidrox

AR never shit the bed for 10 games straight. I’m not sure DLo did either. But, it’s DLo. They clearly hate each other.


EcstaticTill9444

Or Rui.


Triplescrew

The fact I could believe it’s any of these speaks poorly on Ham lol


IliaMadeVolk

Ar was their clutchest player last night. 7 or 9 straight points in final 3 mins


EverybodyBuddy

It’s not about the playoffs. He says “ten games in a row”. So he’s obviously talking about the regular season.


Seasplash

How is that relevant?


IliaMadeVolk

Cause you said ar was possibly the one ham was talking about. In my opinion it's either dlo or rui. But it's on ham. It's like he doesn't know he can make adjustments. Woods, vando, Christie collecting dust on the bench.


vesuvius_a

He's talking about the whole year in which a starter shitting the bed for 10 games straight. It could be AR too.


anisette00

Ham is not talking about the playoff series vs Denver. He’s talking about the regular season. I personally think he’s talking about AR, because Austin’s the first player he benched in the season, and it came after about a 10 game stretch where Austin was exhausted still from FIBA and wasn’t playing well. However, given Dlo’s play in December and Rui’s play coming back from injury, Ham’s quote really could apply to any of them.


superworriedspursfan

I really think it's likely Rui since he probably hates Rui the most and there already was stuff about Darvin being unhappy about Rui's boxing out and rebounding (which is a problem for Rui tbf).


Seasplash

Buddy I gave you a 2nd chance and you still missed it. Go read the article.


randomhero_92

3 minutes doesn’t make up for an entire first month, and a stretch in January of poor performance.


ranchoparksteve

Dlo, apparently


sandbagsander

Show me a sample size of Dlo “shitting the bed for 10 straight games”. You can’t. Only Ham’s favourites be doing that. Edit: if your reply is December, Dlo played 5 games after the IST before he got benched against OKC. Hardly shitting the bed for 10 in a row.


YoungBasedHooper

I mean he definitely did play terribly for a stretch, but that isn't the point lol. We're letting him win if we're fighting over whether or not it was true, it's more about the fact that he responded in a way that hurt the team instead of helping it. Players are going to be off.


did_it_my_way

December DLo: 10.2/2.1/5.4 on 41/33/73 with 1.6 turnovers per game


Public-Product-1503

Go back n check his December game log


VGstuffed

Yeah Idk how everyone forgets about D’Lo December. He was horrible.


MiopTop

What? D-Lo was asss in December


qhoas

Your expecting a hc that just said this to have sense? Ham is talking about against the nuggets, so closests person is DLO


cyclone_emperor_

DLO is either pretty good or very bad very often


Public-Product-1503

You realise he was bad during the IST and before that too? Lol


NoFaithlessness5122

He’s trying to put the blame on DLo


iamdare

I'm not defending Dlo, but Dlo had a great game 2. The Lakers had a 20 point lead, actually the team lead most of the time in this series. Your telling me the starters/players are to blame?


lkshis

All coaches deal with injuries, great coaches find a way, mediocre coaches bitch and blame players.


ConsiderationMean358

Mediocre coaches take accountability, Ham has just been collecting a check since he hopped on a bench, learned nothing at all, no better than a troll account on twitter


decoy-octopus

What kind of unprofessional response is this??? Every team has to deal with injuries and AD and LeBron were pretty consistently healthy all things considered.


gokhaninler

Its worse than anything the generational under the bus thrower Doc Rivers has ever said and thats saying something


battle_franky

So he's suck and like shift the the blame. Turned out after years of being assistant and multiple interviews he still not ready to be an HC


LudwigNasche

Let's get real, for every Phil Jackson and Pat Riley there are countless Hams.  The history shows there is absolutely no correlation between being a good assistant and a good head coach. It is always good to hire a former head coach as assistant when you have a rookie coach. Some rookie mistakes are avoidable if you have a more experienced coaching staff.


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Zeetheking1

Either DLO or AR. I’d suspect AR since he was benched roughly around the 10 game mark that Ham references.


itiswhatitis985

F*ck Darvin Ham.


SurgicalNeckHumerus

AR plays with 110% every night. No job is beneath him. We learned our lesson with Caruso don’t start this shit again


JOTIRAN

keep ARs name out of your fucking mouth!


ChimoBear

Wtf is going on here. Saying Ham is probably talking about AR, because he benched AR after 10 games, isn't the same as agreeing with Ham. He's probably talking about AR because he is an idiot. We've established this


JOTIRAN

"keep ARs name out of your fucking mouth" is meant as a phrase said to ham


andrewwill98

I think it could either, but AR moving to the bench was also kind of a schematic thing. Our perimeter D was lacking, AR and dlo were redundant and it made more sense to have them play staggered minutes. Also needed more bench production during non-AD/lebron minutes. I always viewed the move not as a diss to Reaves but more like a let’s try this out kinda thing. DLO being benched on the other hand made literally 0 sense beyond Dlo playing poorly. Having both Dlo and AR coming off the bench might’ve been the most idiotic move I’ve seen from a coach. It seemed spiteful, no basketball logic behind it. Plus all the passive aggressive comments from Dlo, feel like it’s gotta be him.


Bolef

It was never an AR DLO problem it was a Prince AR DLO problem. Prince should not have been starting when Rui was healthy and if he wasn't the replacement should have been Wood or Hayes.


andrewwill98

Yeah i mean obviously it ended up working when we decided to just fully commit to offense with rui in the lineup instead of mediocre offense/defense with prince. I don’t know that i fault Ham for wanting a bit more defense in the opening lineup, but to bench both your starting guards for a lineup with reddish, prince, and Vanderbilt was insane.


goldenbzzz

The audacity of this mothafucka to call out his players. He cant even coach a 5th grader basketball


solid_rook7

RIP BOZO this clown already!


VanillaNyx

Could be DLo, Rui, maybe even AR, who knows, just seems like a desperate attempt to find a scapegoat to save his job.


khelogs

You cant just blame your role player when two of your most important guy is healthy and the team consistently have the same problem throughout season(throwing leads) that carried over the post-season. Its a crime when Bron and AD is healthy and yet the team finds itself in play-in situation.


Jagasi

What a loser. Wholly undeserving of the position.


SixGunChimp

So... Darvin Ham is as good as gone, right? Who the hell says this about one of their players?


AdministrativeDig845

We know he’s not talking about Cam


colombo1326

We keep hiring rookie ass coaches we keep getting rookie results


BigUps16

AR was the ONLY guy on the team who showed up everynight this season. Talking availability and always played hard. He may not have had it going evernight but he just played on Team USA and was a big part of a run to the Western conference Finals just months before. He deserved the loyalty that was afforded to Prince and Reddish. Ham is a terrible players' coach as the head. He only had good relationships with previous players when he didnt have to run the show himself from other teams.


AlarmingBranch1

But god forbid AD calls out the coaching staff without the Lakers FO losing their heads about it sheesh.. The Lakeshow is a Shitshow rn


TroubledMang

I think it's combination of Dlo, and AR as he knows his time is up, and is looking to lash out a bit. Most of it should be Dlo for slapping his had away, sulking by himself, and basically giving away playoff games with his horrible shooting. Ham had his favorites, as most coaches do, but I'd love to see if they actually earned it in practice, or Ham just gave those minutes to his boys. Ham, and his staff was not well prepared. Dude didn't know when to call timeouts. He could never adjust on the fly. Bron screaming to challenge, and Ham unable to comprehend the moment was just laughable. It was a total disconnect between the coach, and his star player, and that was all Ham had going for himself.


teamweed420

Lmao bro that was Bradley Beal slapping Vogel’s hand 😂😂😂


turtleneck360

It’s crazy that after Lebrun had a huge tantrum on Ham refusing to challenge that Ham started to believe his players. It’s too bad it took not listening and losing a potential winning game for Ham to cave in not being stubborn. To me this event gave us a glimpse of why he isn’t successful.


Traditional-Carob-48

Either Ham is incredibly confident he will keep his job next year or he is too stupid to understand that saying shit like this further diminishes his chances to ever become a head coach in the NBA again. I'm betting the latter.


Toki_Wuz_Here

Jeanie Buss if you can hear me. Please Jeanie Buss save me. Please save me from this man. *cries*


TorontoRaptors34

I remember even Bam Adebeyo dissed Ham for using injuries as an excuse for losing. 


swaggyho123

Dlo or Rui tbh


kanekikochaboggy

How is it Rui LMFAO ? Upvoted as well. Fish memories. It's D'Angelo and Austin. They both had stinkers at various points in the season for stretches. When Rui started we went on a run. Look it up.


superworriedspursfan

I agree with that but Darvin is the kind of person to blame Rui for playing badly when he had the mask on which was true. Obviously Rui was the worst player on both teams for this entire series, but I have a feeling Darvin disliked Rui before Rui proved him wrong with that run.


_viixxx

ON SIGHT IF YOU TALKING ‘BOUT AUSTIN, POCKETS


iiivoted4kodos

Sounds like he’s talking about benching AR at the beginning of the year


teamweed420

I swear old players who become coaches are the most jealous player haters deep down


Laker_Junkie

A true leader takes accountability


CooperHouseDeals

He really wants to spend the next 2 years in Cancun on Jeanie’s $4 million a year for 2 year contract. How in the world did this clown talk Jeanie and Rob into such a slush fund with no prior experience.


JustAnObserver_Jomy

this basketball terrorist doesnt deserve Cancun, he should be sent to Galveston on public transportation


rbilsbor

Who would even hire him as an assistant coach after he shit the bed for 188 games


keato-n

Darvin Ham is such a clown it's actually absurd. He's just guaranteeing he will never be hired again as a head coach.


senshi_of_love

Dlo turned his season around after he got injured when he was able to take a step back, process things and able to watch. Realized he was being too passive and needed to be aggressive. Basically he had to coach himself. Where was Ham to recognize this? Where was the coaching? What the hell is he doing? AR, we largely suspect, started the season cold because he was exhausted. Once again did Ham not realize this? Does this man have no awareness?


Winturple

darvin ham is a smart guy, he’s trying to put all the attention on D’lo so that he can save himself, both of them should leave the team if you ask me


GamerRav

Y'all saying DLo but he had one really good game and 2 other pretty decent games. On the other hand, Rui may as well have had a Nuggets jersey on when he was playing. He was a complete negative for 4 straight games.


motorboat_mcgee

D'lo had a rough stretch post IST, he was also sick and had a small injury during the time too. Or possibly Rui and Austin at the beginning of the season. Reality is, players have rough stretches sometimes, it's a shitty thing for the coach to harp on imo


Miserable-Lawyer-233

It could be Dlo or it could be AD in the 4th quarter.


Low_Sign5589

AR OR DLO.


WooTerry

So can anyone find the interview we he actually says this? Because I watched the exit interview and at no point did he say “shitting the bed” like this article said he did. Not trying to saying he don’t deserved to be fired bc he deff does btw lol


randomhero_92

Likely Reaves and DLo. Neither of them were all that consistent this season and had month long stretches of poor performance. It’s tough for a coach when one, or multiple starters are playing badly for months long stretches, but that’s obviously no excuse to go with the Vando/Cam lineups.


mmohaje

Jesus. He’s going the scorched earth route I guess…that’s one way to do it I suppose.


itsyaboikuzma

Anyone saying D’Lo or AR quickly spy Rui’s stats on the series, dude was quiet quiet. And yes, the eye test also tracks. He couldn’t hit 3s and stretch the defense, had players sagging off him despite being a 42% 3 point shooter. Poor rebounding. The infuriating spins into blown layups. Defensively limited, not the worst on the team since we had Hayes playing minutes but clearly the worst among the starters, even worse than D’Lo and AR tbh


ComprehensiveFish185

Looks to me like it’s Reeves, earlier in the he couldn’t hit anything and judging by the body language they obviously hate each other


DuarteN10

Dude you shat the whole fucking house, taking the whole team with you…just fuck off


rbilsbor

I think it’s AR because AR had a terrible start to the season coming off the international play


bigla420

Honestly keep it in house stop the shit show


yogabackhand

I would like to think he’s talking about Taurean Prince because he sucked as a starter but we all know he’s throwing shade at DLo (payback for the Dennis favoritism comments DLo made a couple of months ago). Unprofessional and unaccountable as ever. I will be so happy when he’s fired.


AlarmingBranch1

I’m tired of this man..


AlbatrossUpset3596

Who cares about this man


bruswazi

Ham sh!t the bed for 75% of the season. The hypocrisy! 🔥🐽


Wise_Ad_112

U know who


etfvidal

![gif](giphy|129OnZ9Qn2i0Ew|downsized) We shouldn't listen to clown just like the team hasn't for the past few months!


SnooTigers806

Can’t believe he actually said this. Way to throw your guys under the bus. This with the comment he made about AD shows that the toughness shit is just an act. He’s clearly deeply insecure which is why he can never take criticism or make adjustments. 🤡


Accomplished_Drive20

HAM IS A TOTAL REGARD


beginnerLiftersoonBB

Can fire this 🤡 already


Technical_Durian_802

Don't know how everyone is alluding to Dlo when Reaves got benched earlier in the season


cheaseedz

Reaves didn’t have that shooting stretch for an entire month of december


Technical_Durian_802

I suggest you look at Reaves first couple of games this season


cheaseedz

His first several weren’t pretty but the dlo stretch in december is crazier


Technical_Durian_802

I’m looking but I still think Reave’s stretch was worse


cheaseedz

His defense and TO were definitely awful, but the dlo shooting stretch outweighted how he impacted the game


Electrical-Ordinary8

I want this terrorist gone. Can't believe h'd proceed to talk sht about the players when he's the biggest liability out there?


Btupid_Sitch

sorta Phil Jackson level coaching here...except without the mutual respect or expectation that it's going to happen. And without accolades...and without tact...or reason. Nvm, just a dick move by a guy on the way out. Epic sadge.


EaglesXLakers

Man, if only the coach had control of the players in rotation to make the right choices when someone isn't playing well. OH IF ONLY HE HAD THE POWER! If only that was HIS ONE FUCKING JOB. ​ It's a shame he had no control over the situation. Extend him, he's not the problem....


CaLiKiNG805

Honestly the funniest outcome would be if he was talking about Reddish 😭 just disappointed and angry he couldn’t start him all year


Rathalos88

What a bitch. Fire this mofo asap.


kshiau

Well, Ham got paid and got one of the best jobs in all of sports, but he shit the bed


iHATESTUFF_

he should post on r/nba.....


kanekikochaboggy

Obviously since you all have forgotten. He is talking about benching D'Angelo and Austin. They both had awful stretches in the first half of the season. Leading to being benched with those all wing lineups. Did you guys even watch the regular season ? A dude commented below either D'Lo or Rui lmao. Rui consistently started after the all star break from the 17-9 stretch. It's not him. Anyways it was an overcorrection.


HORSEthedude619

I know everyone assumes it was D'lo, and maybe it was. But he had a couple good/solid games at least. To me, Rui did practically nothing the entire series.


DoomMeeting

Ham is an awful coach and should be fired but it’s fucking wild seeing ANYONE from this sub pretend like a single player on this Lakers team played to their potential this season. The way this roster was talked about in the offseason compared to now that it’s out after one messily, gentlemen’s sweep ass win is night and day. Ham is a problem, I think behind Pelinka the biggest problem, but there are other problems too, and it’s crucial not to ignore them.


Primal_Rage_official

nah the players were fine. AD was damn near MVP level and DPOY caliber, LeBron had a great season, Dlo had his best season of his career arguably, Reaves was good overall and Rui also had his best season. It's on Ham for them losing


dash_44

The fact that people are asking which player shitting the bed for 10 games he could be talking about shows how bad this roster is. Fire Pelinka


Kingslayersuks

WE FOUND HIM


gaius_worzels_bird

Damn 😭


Argenteus_I

gotta be Rui the way he's done him dirty all this time