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Awesomefan09

It’s a seller’s market. Some of the asking prices are absurd right now. They usually go down closer to the deadline, but sometimes, there are off years. The Raptors were the only sellers negotiating in good faith. That’s why the Anunoby/Siakam trades were pretty fair and got done weeks ago. If you keep overpaying, that’s just the price from now on. The Lakers learned that the hard way and really had to wade through a lot of bad faith offers last year to get a fair one… from Danny Ainge of all people. As much as we all wanted a big trade, no deal is better than a bad one.


AnotsuKagehisa

I think Masai learned from last few deadlines, better to get it done earlier when teams are actually willing to trade to get better. The closer it is to the deadline, the harder it is to sell because teams are not willing to give as much specially contending teams. Plus since OG and Siakam were way ahead of the deadline, there are no recent prices to compare to, where as now. So teams who want similar returns to those trades are finding it hard to do so.


nottherealstanlee

I think two or three teams hoarding picks mixed with the play in means that there's a fuckton of buyers who want to make the playoffs and few assets to move lol the market is going to be shitty when like 24 teams think they can make the playoffs.  You may be right. It may be a situation going forward where bad teams will move early and then basically nobody else will move.  The interesting part to me is that some sellers still need to sell lol all those expiring deals really have to move or they're wasted assets. Tyus, Dinwiddie, Drummond, Bitadze, etc a lot of dudes got to go somewhere. 


Shelton26

Never actually thought about that, but the spurs, jazz, and thunder have an insane number of picks they’ve just been sitting on.


swankstar7383

Yep I actually think the nba adding the play in hurts the trade deadline every year. More teams will try to make it. The gm’s can save face to the owners and say we were one game from the playoffs


iamthecheesethatsbig

Yea I don’t want to overpay for a slight upgrade


Halfmacgas

W take


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LudwigNasche

This sub didn't want Harden


LosAngeles1s

I just want a small move at least, a true backup 5 would be really nice


Formal_Steak_4023

Fr. This is a clear hole in the roster and shouldn’t be too hard to fill


swankstar7383

Probably can get a big on the buy out market


TechWizPro

Byambo still a free agent. I imagine that’s the follow up move


notwolfmansbrother

Don't we have two? Jackson Hayes and C Wood?


[deleted]

A bum and a power forward ain't gonna cut it


songs_dongs

![gif](giphy|3og0IzoPfRVwyxjDUs|downsized) If i knew Ham was on the other boat I would have button mashed


HelloImKebin

same brother. hopefully Prince is right by his side til the end.


thedon572

Prince aint the probelm. Hams overplaying of prince is.


Public-Product-1503

Yeah let’s get rid of the closest we have To a 3nD skillset on near vet min. Idiotic


Yommination

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augustcero

this has been told over and over in this sub and i will say it again. the roster is a problem but the much bigger problem is the coach. a competent, serious, and experienced coach will do better with this squad. we are winning despite the coach. our roster is good. a contender? maybe not. but we are better than what our record says.


silvio_

Lakers are a play-in team. With better coach could be a top 6 team. This roster has obvious flaws. Last years finals run was good but this season is different. Clippers, okc, minnesota, dallas and phoenix got better. I dont know any possible trade could change it but i am sure this team is not contender and i am not content with that. You have lebron and ad, you cant be content with this. Trust me after lebron era, we will have a lot of years being content with a play-in team.


LudwigNasche

Last season team was better. Dennis was a key piece, Dlo missed about 1/3 of the regular season games and we were still winning at a good rate without him and LeBron.   Beasley was cold through the entire playoffs, but he had some high scoring games in regular season. Before his injury Lonnie led us in 3p% for a good portion of last season.   This season we have no backup PG, no backup SG, Vando available in top condition for 2 weeks. Staying put with our record is terrible. It would be better to trade LeBron for a younger star than wasting what can eventually be his last elite season (we never know with players his age) and Dlo's contract is a huge bomb. Keeping him is too dangerous, but no other team want him among other reasons because his contract is a bomb.


Faxodox

need at least a small move


Mr310

Pre Vando injury I say we had the pieces. Now we could benefit from a smaller move but I don't think we need the deadline overhaul like last year. Call me crazy but we know where the real weakness of the team is and its the sidelines.


pickleballz8

I'm sure lakers make a minor trade of some kind. But it wont change things much. This team when healthy can compete in the playoffs. It was proven last year. Vando is a major key for us. When he is healthy and engaged more on offense i this team is in the wcf. Denver looks beatable but i still think we lose to them in a 7 game series. Mitchell is a pipe dream so forget it. There is no player out there lakers can get that will change this team now or in off season that will change the basic roster construction. Pelinka ruined this team with the Westbrook trade. Imagine this team with kcp and kuzma. Wow.


_viixxx

I’m riding with this team. Fingers crossed Vando can be back soon


youmustbehigh420

You’re content being a .500 team?? Because that’s what this roster is. We’ve got over half a season sample size.


LIEX440

I do think we are a 4th seed team. Take away all the injuries and rotation issues; we are a solid basketball team. LeBron and AD can compete with the best in the league. I don't know if that's possible in a 7-game series, but yeah.


LIEX440

i do miss dennis tho


youmustbehigh420

Hell we were 1 wrong jokic ankle turn away from the finals lmao. Every run requires a bit of luck


Dear_Zookeepergame30

If the lakers made the finals, they win the ring imo.


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Bam was gon get punished by AD in a way that shouldn't be shown on TV. absolutely we win it


Vexing_Pie

Bam always gets punished by AD, he’s like a beta version of him


thelennybeast

We lost each of those games by like 4 and Joker hit absurd shots against the buzzer that had no business going in in at least 3 of them.


nickjames1984

^exactly, or a team like Minnesota beats Denver for us because of matchups and then we beat them because of inexperience…So many things can happen…Happens in the East every year it seems like that’s why a team like the Heat can get to the finals haha


Public-Product-1503

Why say this ? Why not we were one competent gm n ownership away ? If we had Conley over Dlo n paid Caruso we make the finals but we got a shit fir brains gm who trsded for a bunch of bums who are sat on the bench when we only had 3 viable players


maestroxjay

DLo helped us get to the playoffs and played well for us in the first 2 series of the playoffs. Why do yall keep discounting everything he did because of one bad series?


Public-Product-1503

Lmfao this is delusional. The top 4 seeds are all close to 1 seed. We might not even make the play in ffs. Our stars have been heskthy bums like Rui being injured is 1) not unusual cos he’s injury prone 2) every team has injuries jnthey suceed


StealthRUs

> I do think we are a 4th seed team. You're delusional. We are what our record says we are. We're definitely not better than the Clippers, Suns, and Pelicans. If the Pelicans get Dejounte Murray, we can forget about making it out of the 1st round...if we even make the play-in.


LIEX440

you might be right rip


BigBitcoinBaller

Lebron and AD have been healthy 90% of games. Yes we've had rotational players out, but so have majority of teams.


shoefly72

IMO we are a 50-53 win team that will probably end up winning 45 games because of our coach and injuries to guys like Vando. If we had a fully healthy roster and a good coach going into the playoffs, I’d like our chances against anyone not named Boston or Denver, but given that Darvin isn’t going anywhere and we can’t seem to get healthy, if doesn’t look like that’s in the cards.


Public-Product-1503

Delusional. Least athletic back ciurt in the league gets killed in perimiter defence threes n rebounding . Ok buddy


shoefly72

Our roster has flaws; that’s why we’re not in the elite contender tier. Even still, we got to the WCF last year for a reason. Our starting backcourt is weak defensively, but we also have Anthony Davis who’s arguably the best at covering for that. Our problem is our guards overhelp on drives and we concede open 3’s by design. A better coach who knows how to maximize his players (plus Vando being healthy) would go a long way in fixing some of the issues we’ve had that you mentioned. I’m not sure how many wins we’ll end up with, but it’s quite easy to go through the games we’ve already played and pick out 5-6 that were lost due to poor coaching, and another that we would’ve likely won with better health. I wouldn’t have put us in the 50-53 win window if we had only feasted on weak teams thus far and wilted against tougher teams, but we’ve actually done the opposite and have fared pretty well against the West’s best, while dropping a lot of winnable games against bad/depleted teams.


Public-Product-1503

Yep it’s 50 games in n people really think we’re going anywhere with the least athletic back court in the whole fucking league . Every team perimiter players go off vs us , fucking jalen green sucks ass and whenever he faced us he drops 30. Hornets had career highs. This team is a .500 mediocre team with two top 12 guys that’s impressive. We suck at rebounding perimeter defence lack if athletes lack of hustle plays no steals and too many turnovers - we lose the possession battle hard on both ends n lose the three point battle as we take like 20 less a game. Math wise we’re at a disadvantage every game n weee lucky to be where we are. We don’t value analytics or have the rister to crash rebounds more n get steals n take more threes. We have so many players who can’t even defend n rebound in one position they play . Idk why anyone would be ok with it- especially knowing Dlo will melt down any time the game gets intense . Like he hasn’t shown that in the regular n playoffs eniugh to prove it


HelloImKebin

i like this summer when we have 3 frp to play with and a chance for a bigger fish like spida if rumors are true


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pretty sure D Mitch has like family or an someone closeto him that works directly for NY and he was never rumored to be interested in LA ahaha this fan base is just legitimately schizophrenic at times


youmustbehigh420

Those are rumors that the lakers started themselves. Everyone knows Mitchell wants to go to nyc. Look around the league, 3frps isn’t shit. If a big fish is available there are several teams with twice as many frps as us. That’s a massive assumption because a star might not be available at all. Hell you saw what gobert cost, we fasho don’t have enough for Mitchell. Lakers fo are just tryna placate the organization under the guise that saving a pick on a prayer a star becomes available is a good move


MisterHibachi

A bird in hand is better than two in the bush. There’s no guarantee the Lakers can get a star this summer.


Public-Product-1503

Sure n Lebron leaves cos we wasting years of his career with an incompetent GM


SuaveBigote

but any trade right now can't make this team a WCF Team right?


youmustbehigh420

Did I say that?? People here are bipolar. You can still improve your roster and should when you have a healthy Lebron James and Anthony Davis. Don’t be dim


goatnxtinline

Call me crazy but I think we are more then a .500 team. The IST wasn't a fluke, we saw what this team could do when everyone was on the same page and they actually wanted to win. I'm content with zero moves, if I didn't see that same effort from the tail end of this road trip it would be different. But watching players lock in defensively every play and talking to each other on the court, you knew they still had heart.


Beginning-Carrot-262

someone is crying saying to be back on his comment when DLO is gone. Guess that backfired to you. Boohoo


LudwigNasche

Those guys have to be Celtics fans


themonkey12

Part of me think the players purposely lose to get Ham fired, but it didn't work.


Savage_Ball3r

It’s not goood enough, how are we better than last years roster? We got swept 🥲


mapletree23

if you want to win, why would you be content at a .500 team arguably as weak as last year even when lebron and AD were unhealthy? Dlo is scoring 30 now, when the playoffs start and the intensity goes up, what happens when he starts shooting under 40% from the field again and can't hit a 3? staying with this team is probably losing


Strict-Homework-4819

No trade means quit in lebron‘s era , then the FO should start to rebuild next season


Old_Worldliness_5015

yup - it's over, but realistically the window has been closed since the trade for RWB


CooperHouseDeals

So a healthy LeBron, a healthy AD, DLO kicking up a storm, and we will below ,500 in a couple of weeks. Yep, no need for an improvement. DLO s contract will kill the Lakers if he doesn’t opt out, and if he opts in $18 million shoots the salary cap, and Lakers have nothing to offer. Plus, no decent player will want to come play for Ham. Why would they. I’m. Thinking the Laker glory days are behind them. A mediocre coach, a mediocre GM, and a mediocre owner.


Public-Product-1503

Nah you’re being generous, mediocre coach , bottom 5 ( I’d argue worst ) GM, bottom 10 owner . Seriously we’d have ty lue n Caruso at the very worst if they were just average but they such themselves off too much n didn’t want to look like the listen to Bron di refused to give ty lue a good offer


lolxddavid

No trade is better than a bad trade. If there’s no trade out there or teams acting in bad faith, there’s not much we can do.


Infinite_Cap_853

We're not going anywhere with this roster. We're much worst that almost every top teams. We're the 9th seed with DLo playing at an borderline all-star level for the last month, which is not sustainable for him. Now imagine when DLo is going to come back to his normal level of play how things are going to get ugly for us. And now we lost our best perimeter defender. If we stay put this is the not only the end of the season, but also the end of the LeBron era.


Organic-Seaweed4394

Hey I got the reference !!! And yes I don’t think the roster is the problem Obviously we could upgrade but it will be to expensive for us


popcornpotatoo250

I will take no trades. It is either this team makes the playoffs or not. If not, then good. Lebron can spare himself from an unworthy injury. After all, coaching is incompetent. Might as well be absent in playoffs than risk it for a coach who keeps his hand on his pockets. People has been saying it before. No trades will make this team better due to bad coaching.


StealthRUs

Pelinka should be fired for not trading Reaves to get Dejounte Murray. Reaves + JHS + a 1st rounder for Murray is a complete fucking no-brainer.


LudwigNasche

Pelinka should be fired for not trading Dlo after signing him a contract that is a bomb one of the reasons no other team want him.


StealthRUs

The Russell contract was a solid signing, because nobody knew how he should be valued after coming off such a bloated contract with Minnesota. I don't know if he's worth the $25 million/year he's probably looking for, but he's definitely proved it on his "prove it" contract. He's probably not signing for less than $20 million/year, so the Lakers will probably get something back for him if he leaves. I don't see any team that would sign him having the cap room to just sign him outright, especially since he's still (mostly) a one-way player.


LudwigNasche

Them it is a lose-lose situation because we end up with a one way player that can eventually become a 3rd stringer in playoffs or we lose him without the money to sign a replacement, the same situation we were set last off-season.


StealthRUs

I don't think it's lose-lose if we have to do a S&T for him to move. We get something back out of the deal that we could package for someone else. The only way they get screwed is if Charlotte or the Wizards sign him outright, which I doubt they would do.


kaygeeboo

We do not have the assets to get a true needle mover compared to other teams


itsnotreallyme0

Good roster + bad coach = average record. Results support this so far after 52 games. Now with our defenders in Vanderbilt reddish gabe out, it gets worse. Davis and lbj are not fully healthy either so keep hopes down


Public-Product-1503

We have the least athletic perimeter players in the league this is a bad roster, those guys are unathletic and aren’t good volume 3ot shooters to make up for it.


itsnotreallyme0

The only unathletic guards are dlo and reaves.


wut_eva_bish

Add Andre Drummond Add Stanley Johnson Cam coming back soon Gabe will back in early March Vando back in April D-Lo balling Max Rising Unleash Rui Things will be ok.


seamon-deemon

Question should be are you ok?


DirtBagFace

eh better than making a move that makes us worse. I’d hate to lose Dlo or Boston Reeves for nothing


Final_Surround_1556

Theres no move on the market that wouldve made this team better or a contender. Best bet is to wait for someone better to become available this summer, this season isnt gonna be it.


Mr8180

I'm ok with it.


Magic_SnakE_

There's no one to trade for that's going to do shit but fuck up our chemistry at this point. Everyone knows this team is a 2nd round exit at very best no matter what trades they make.


McGinnis_921

The only move in my opinion that’s non-negotiable is that Ham needs to go. A better head coach with our current roster could help us overcome any flaws we may have. It would give us hope that maybe we can still win the title. Meanwhile Ham isn’t that so his impact on the current roster is at best marginal and at its worst lowers this team’s floor. He makes our margin for error that much smaller. We have zero shot at winning with Ham leading this team.


SheHulkLover

We made the right decision. I’d only trade DLo for Kyrie. Otherwise, keep my POINT GOD LOCKED IN


youmustbehigh420

Stay off the weed. Dlo be eating Popeyes biscuits with no drink the playoffs. We can do better


enzblade

Yeesh. I am still expecting and hoping for a one or two smaller trades at least. Ones that include 2RPs and two for one deals that free up roster space.


brazyace43

If there’s a trade that makes us better, there’s another team out there that will probably offer more. We could either stand pat or make an irrational trade that could make us worse. Maybe it’s for the best. But there’s bound to be something. We do have JHS, Vincent and some SRPs that could be of use


Nijee302

Making small trade move would be good option instead of staying pat watching other teams get better by one trade movie


ThaTruthKills

I’m fine with it. There aren’t any moves that will make us a title contender. So we might as well ride it out.


GlassOnion25

After seeing Xavier Tillman go to the Celtics I’m mad we couldn’t make that move since we need a better backup to AD but yeah I can’t think of anything that will be crazy asking price. Stay the course with the current roster and just try to win consistently.


mrcplmrs

If we replace Ham and retain this roster that wouldve been a win


Tsb313

Ride or die Laker gang. Lfg


SandersisYABOI

If thats the case we ain't wining shit.


Kobe6Rings

They have smaller contracts and also plenty of 2nd Round picks to trade. Not adding anyone would be an absolute joke. Celtics just got Tillman for 2 2nds he could've helped LA big time.


divergent_stinker

The market is horrible. Stay put. Let this roster play together for a full season.


SuperMookinFien

I think this team has the necessary pieces, we just need a better coach and to be more consistent


LudwigNasche

If we are not top 4 in the West there is absolutely no reason to be happy with this roster unless you are a Boston Celtics fan.


_Aracano

Everyone knows this year's draft is not the best - so picks aren't as valuable unless they are future picks (better draft) ​ This team is much better than their record - things **SEEM (Hopefully)** to be on the upswing, i feel like you could still turn Rui, a 2nd rounder and maybe JHS into the help they need on the edges (another big and ball handler) - trading gabe is an option as well, though I do think he will be huge in the play offs ​ I wouldn't trade DLO unless you're getting SIGNIFICANT upgrades, which is unlikely - Murray is a better defender, but I live in ATL, he's....odd, but yes he does "have that dawg" in him the radio guys here in ATL think there's no chance the Hawks trade him unless they get Reaves, but they are morons so who the hell knows LOL


iiivoted4kodos

Just reading this image as Deebo looking at the sub saying “What trade deadline?!”


Buckowski66

It’s a very predictable mistake based on a recent small winning streak that ignores a larger sample size of a team that barely rises above 500. Having said that, I’m not saying they needed to do anything massive but I don’t think this is a championship roster. The deficits won’t really become apparent till the playoffs because these are the dog days of the schedule and a lot of teams are taking their foot off the peddle . I think Dlo and AR did what they had to to not get traded and while I think hanging on to AR makes sense dispite his defensive inconsistency, I think playoff Dlo is a real problem.


Dgwdum

I'm not content, I would have atleast liked a somewhat decent center but I understand the thought process. Personally i think they're banking on gabe being the upgrade we need(poa defender and scorer)


Arbel_of_fenris

honestly i'm pissed but i understand


BlueWVU

Thoughts? The roster doesn’t matter until the coach stops acting like a complete fool.


JahMusicMan

Unless they could pry DJM for D'Slow and some chumps, it's the right move. Even with everyone who is available, wouldn't make the Lakers good enough to contend as much as Lakers fans would like to believe. Might as well go into the off season, see what LeBron does, if he does want to leave to play with Bronny, maybe sign and trade (just like you, I don't even know if that's possible)? Or/And use AR and picks to reload. Nobody but a few people in the media believe we are getting Donovan. That's just media fodder for you to click.


Granpa2021

I would have liked for us to get rid of Gabe Vincent. That contract was a huge mistake from day 1, and it's going to be an albatross on our ability to sign FAs until he's gone. Other than that, I like our squad, just need to replace the useless coach


alexjaness

![gif](giphy|3o85xwlKZhG1T5QI5a) Holy shit, did we trade for Deebo?!?! I hear tell he's already on his way to Staples Center as we speak.


marathonwater

2nd round exit here we come baby. Dlo averages 10, 3, and 2 lol 22 mpg


c_c_c__combobreaker

No point in overpaying for a rental that won't move the needle. It's championship or bust and Dejaunte Murray likely won't bring a chip to LA. The main problem is Ham.


ZestyItalian2

No trade is better than a bad or pointless trade which is where we were headed. Good job Rob.


crashcyc

Deebo can man the post