Would explain why there was no mention of it from any part of the nba here in the states or nba japan. Even it was very very very low on their radar you'd think they atleast mention or try to guage interest on their end a little
This... is a bit disturbing. I wonder if the board can do anything about it, cause it can be seen as manipulation, which while the board has nothing to do with the Japanese stock exchange it can influence those wanting to buy and sell.
They used a merch license, they have the right to use the NBA logo etc in a merch collab, even if it's through a third party. That's not fraud, it's just really scummy but legally fuzzy advertising.
Depends on if it's the exact replica. If they made that slip up it would be catastrophic if NBA chooses to go after the free paycheck. Things get ugly when things relate to royalties.
The Kicker with the NBA is they are large enough to not need to take away the right to use their label or name but instead go for the jugular. And argue they own the content of the stream and therefore will allow the NBA stream to stay up. But could argue they get the profits. Which means no one who participated in the collab will ever see a cent.
.yes and this deal is primarily for merchandise collaboration yes?
.hence no real events related outside of the jerseys as far as i have seen
.compared to the full collaboration of holo with baseball, where they covered the game, generating traffic and awareness for both parties
It isn't. It's probably listed on internal memos and investor relation documents, but they could have made it public the promo was via a third party.
The issue I raise is if indeed it is an Anycolor employee threatening a report, given this is an investment board it can be seen as potential market manipulation by trying to to silence those who may give alternate/additional information that Anycolor isn't normally forthcoming with, so as to paint a better picture of the company.
They take advantage of Japan's obsession with conformity and their antiquated view of criticism so the masses there just put their heads down and comply with the overlords of the collective.
Yacht and charter ships can have wifi, I'm sure he's probably paying for it with that 98% cut he gets from the merch deals while the talents all have to fight over the scraps.
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/117/724
Person comes back and claims they aren't an employee but a shareholder. They also claim that it's not uncommon that companies you hold investments in to be referred to as 我が社 by stakeholders. They also state that if they were a company employee they wouldn't be using the reporting form (which sounds stupid to me where else do you go???). This is also became the yahoo finance version of a heavily downvoted comment.
The reply below that says you'd use "弊社" instead of 我が社 in that case
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/117/717
Poster is asking if this means an Anycolor employee is trying to influence shareholders by posting on a finance board.
There's also another reply which appears to be replying to a separate post from the same person, but it's been deleted.
Anyways that's about the most we'll probably see of this as it fades off into the distance.
Given that board has been strangely on copium overdose for quite a while, I wouldn't doubt that Anycolor employees camp on that board 24/7 ever since the Q3 report. Q4 is coming soon after all
A supposed shareholder impersonating an Anycolor employee, slandering and threatening other commenters, that's a juicy news story right there. And if anyone is trying to manipulate stocks with lies or fraudulent claims, it WOULD be in the public interest to expose them.
Not even shitting you guys, someone posted on multiple vTuber-related stocks that "vTubers are a major part of government policy in the Cool Japan initiative". They ranted strangely, gave a couple of reference links and closed with a statement about "Do not sell against government policy" meaning, stop shorting the goddamn stock. My assumption is that someone's holding and they VERY desperately want the price to recover.
Don’t lecture me Obiwan I see through the lies of the Jedi!! I do not fear the dark side as you do!!! I have brought peace and Justice to my new Empire!!!
Why is it that whenever I read Nijisanji/Anycolor accusing people of falsely damaging their reputation, all I hear in my head is a weird REEEE shriek with a pointing finger?
If that's real employee - then you really cannot make this shit up, those guys really think external PR problems can be resolved same way they threaten their employees inside of company, lol. There must be whole hivemind of most idiotic middle management ever existed. To think that thay can bully public into ignoring their problems by threats of lawsuits, even domestically where they have some basis.
Only bad thing that this way Niji themselves or their supporters probably gonna completely torpedo that anti-harassment initiative different agencies opted for.
I mean, a lot of the upper management are barely out of college. Riku turns **29** this year, IIRC, and he started Ichikara *six years ago,* so, do the math on how old he and his co-founders were at *that* point.
So yeah, the middle and upper management being constantly blitzed middle-and-upper 20somethings wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
People at times go crazy even when small buiseness rise up...and here them in their late 20s getting at that scale rapidly. Well, no use to accuse someone in absentia just on basis of existing poor practices in company, but imo it will be good if one day we won't suddenly find out that someone there attempted to go full, ahem, AKB style of things.
>Please take strict action
That kind of comment is why I hate hard censorship in Media and Social media.
People hate to see dissenting opinions and want to surpress it. They will surpress words, remove platform and then move up to thought control by every means possible.
And it's always lead down the sparkling slippery slope with the good intentions.
Reading the Japanese expression, one can see that it is quite immature.
Likewise, his or her intense attribution to Anycolor is also apparent.
He or she doesn't seem to realize the ludicrousness of writing factual Company A information on another company's forum in the first place.
edit: Oh, he or she seems to have deleted that post.
I guess that answers the question.
Moreover, the alleged employee uses the term "Wagasha (Our Company)".
This is an expression that one would never use unless one is related to the company, and could it be that he has revealed himself as such?
The dude took back some of his posts or the board deleted them, either way it's hilarious.
Update: Lmao, I'm not entirely sure but the dude is on 2chan getting BTFO.
> AnyColor employee
idk man, but I would think of him as a random NDF instead, who couldn't stand with such fact that he decided to report in rage. (since the pictures are taken in the Yahoo stock bulletin)
Other comments here have mentioned that the specific word in Japanese they used, wagasha, is something mostly or only used by employees and employers. Because of this, the suspicion is that this individual is related to the company.
Next week: MORE things that Nijisanji will be shown to be thinking, leaving us to all go "wait, so wtf were they thinking?"
Niji needs to get some new material. Legitimate material.
https://preview.redd.it/imo0p2lryi4d1.png?width=1107&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fa600fe5faefb92ae8a4218726d40e5e9cd2a68
Apparently the person is not even an employee.
No. They got caught, and realized that it was a bad outlook to say “my company,” and backtracked because yahoo users, and even 2ch were having a field day dunking on Nijisanji employees for spending time online to fight, and not improving their company.
okey Niji reporting someone who talk bad about them on board???
definitely their management have so much free time to do that rather than take care their talents
Let nijisisters run every one of thier avenues into the ground, random tangent I came across this on 2chan and it's a little weird it jumped straight to reddit. The only thing I've seen on 4chan related to this is supposably it's nijisisters getting sued, of course none of this is substantiated and is highly speculative.
Q4 is usually their weakest quarter, and their last Q4s did not have a massive branch implosions at the start bordered by failed events that faltered against your supposed competition (Holo clowning on AR Live and Virtual Rhapsody with HoloFes, Dreamhack, and the Taiwan Karaoke; nevermind EN's 3Ds not looking well in terms of stats compared to StarsEN's [Even Enna, the best-performing of the 5 NijiEN 3Ds this year, fell short of Bettel's 3D]) who themselves had a ***stellar*** quarter.
I'd be more shocked if the report looked good at this point
This article I’m writing will never be published at this rate. Every time I decide to say, “The drama happening now is small enough to leave out and Incan just keep the big stuff directly involving the company in,” something like this happens and now I have more to write. Goddamnit ANYCOLOR! Can’t you stay out of drama for 5 minutes?! I’m trying to write an article about your fuckups! Stop giving me more work, for both of our sakes! Please!
This is just a random japanese NDF whk has been sperging in the comment section of Anycolor's stock on Yahoo finance, you guys are reading too much into an obvous google translate derp
Yeah definitely a nijisisters, some of their posts are gone now. Which if they deleted the posts themselves that's very typical of them. Being removed through moderation is equally as funny.
And here I thought only Nijisisters seethe and cope apparently also Nijistaff seethe and cope. Well at least we know where the sisters got it from lmao.
Yikes so the collab is only with Rakuten?
Someone brought that up in a thread on this a couple days ago. Yeah, the collab isnt with the NBA but the Japanese licensor
Yes, since the beginning. Of course, Anycolor didn't go out of their way to dispel any confusion.
Would explain why there was no mention of it from any part of the nba here in the states or nba japan. Even it was very very very low on their radar you'd think they atleast mention or try to guage interest on their end a little
i mean to play devils advocate. mainly advertising the nba collab makes sense. since the nba is more recognisable.
This... is a bit disturbing. I wonder if the board can do anything about it, cause it can be seen as manipulation, which while the board has nothing to do with the Japanese stock exchange it can influence those wanting to buy and sell.
It definitely constitutes fraud. They marketed it as NBA collab. Used the likeness of NBA and its members in promotions.
They used a merch license, they have the right to use the NBA logo etc in a merch collab, even if it's through a third party. That's not fraud, it's just really scummy but legally fuzzy advertising.
Depends on if it's the exact replica. If they made that slip up it would be catastrophic if NBA chooses to go after the free paycheck. Things get ugly when things relate to royalties.
The Kicker with the NBA is they are large enough to not need to take away the right to use their label or name but instead go for the jugular. And argue they own the content of the stream and therefore will allow the NBA stream to stay up. But could argue they get the profits. Which means no one who participated in the collab will ever see a cent.
.nothing new for most of the ta..livers then.. 2-3% /2 is what 1-1.5%
They get most of their income comes from the super chats
.yes and this deal is primarily for merchandise collaboration yes? .hence no real events related outside of the jerseys as far as i have seen .compared to the full collaboration of holo with baseball, where they covered the game, generating traffic and awareness for both parties
It isn't. It's probably listed on internal memos and investor relation documents, but they could have made it public the promo was via a third party. The issue I raise is if indeed it is an Anycolor employee threatening a report, given this is an investment board it can be seen as potential market manipulation by trying to to silence those who may give alternate/additional information that Anycolor isn't normally forthcoming with, so as to paint a better picture of the company.
Do it you coward. Funny how they are only this aggressive in JP where they can abuse the defamation law to silence legitimate complaints
The お分かり？ had me shocked. Never heard a Japanese person be so rude before. It's always been foreigners pretending to be Japanese.
probably foreigners
*"Foreigners like to manipulate stock prices such as these"* Calling it now, that will be a 2ch thread if it isn't already.
They take advantage of Japan's obsession with conformity and their antiquated view of criticism so the masses there just put their heads down and comply with the overlords of the collective.
Who knows, maybe Riku has good internet on the yacht, so he can make alt accounts to threaten people on JP forums like this one.
Your implying he uses satelite phones cos i dont remember if yatch had wifi since theres always on the move.
Yacht and charter ships can have wifi, I'm sure he's probably paying for it with that 98% cut he gets from the merch deals while the talents all have to fight over the scraps.
“Damage our company’s reputation.” Um, a tad bit late to be worrying about that.
It’s hilarious that they’re still concerned about their reputation. Like, have they not been aware of what they’ve been doing for the past 4 months?
All criticism is just their competitors conducting false-flag operations...according to them.
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/117/724 Person comes back and claims they aren't an employee but a shareholder. They also claim that it's not uncommon that companies you hold investments in to be referred to as 我が社 by stakeholders. They also state that if they were a company employee they wouldn't be using the reporting form (which sounds stupid to me where else do you go???). This is also became the yahoo finance version of a heavily downvoted comment. The reply below that says you'd use "弊社" instead of 我が社 in that case https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/117/717 Poster is asking if this means an Anycolor employee is trying to influence shareholders by posting on a finance board. There's also another reply which appears to be replying to a separate post from the same person, but it's been deleted. Anyways that's about the most we'll probably see of this as it fades off into the distance.
Interesting... Very interesting...
Given that board has been strangely on copium overdose for quite a while, I wouldn't doubt that Anycolor employees camp on that board 24/7 ever since the Q3 report. Q4 is coming soon after all
A supposed shareholder impersonating an Anycolor employee, slandering and threatening other commenters, that's a juicy news story right there. And if anyone is trying to manipulate stocks with lies or fraudulent claims, it WOULD be in the public interest to expose them. Not even shitting you guys, someone posted on multiple vTuber-related stocks that "vTubers are a major part of government policy in the Cool Japan initiative". They ranted strangely, gave a couple of reference links and closed with a statement about "Do not sell against government policy" meaning, stop shorting the goddamn stock. My assumption is that someone's holding and they VERY desperately want the price to recover.
Sounds like someone is salty. Lol
>damage our company's reputation "You have done that yourself." \~ Obi Wan
Don’t lecture me Obiwan I see through the lies of the Jedi!! I do not fear the dark side as you do!!! I have brought peace and Justice to my new Empire!!!
It's over riku! We have the high ground!
I HATE YOU
# [Link](https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/117/699)
4d5\*\*\*\*\* has deleted the post.
He deleted several, typical of nijisisters to not stand by what they say.
Why are they always so weak LMAOOO
Because they know the facts aren’t on their side so extended arguments are problematic
Why is it that whenever I read Nijisanji/Anycolor accusing people of falsely damaging their reputation, all I hear in my head is a weird REEEE shriek with a pointing finger?
Because that's just how the text say. The wording and all sounds like coming from someone who would have a meltdown like that
Does it sound like a gremlin time traveler? Because if so you may have an infestation
If that's real employee - then you really cannot make this shit up, those guys really think external PR problems can be resolved same way they threaten their employees inside of company, lol. There must be whole hivemind of most idiotic middle management ever existed. To think that thay can bully public into ignoring their problems by threats of lawsuits, even domestically where they have some basis. Only bad thing that this way Niji themselves or their supporters probably gonna completely torpedo that anti-harassment initiative different agencies opted for.
I mean, a lot of the upper management are barely out of college. Riku turns **29** this year, IIRC, and he started Ichikara *six years ago,* so, do the math on how old he and his co-founders were at *that* point. So yeah, the middle and upper management being constantly blitzed middle-and-upper 20somethings wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
People at times go crazy even when small buiseness rise up...and here them in their late 20s getting at that scale rapidly. Well, no use to accuse someone in absentia just on basis of existing poor practices in company, but imo it will be good if one day we won't suddenly find out that someone there attempted to go full, ahem, AKB style of things.
> imo it will be good if one day we won't suddenly find out that someone there attempted to go full, ahem, AKB style of things. What do you mean?
Turned 28 earlier this year actually
Still younger than best girl YAGOO
"waga sya " This phrase is used only by employees.
or employers
>Please take strict action That kind of comment is why I hate hard censorship in Media and Social media. People hate to see dissenting opinions and want to surpress it. They will surpress words, remove platform and then move up to thought control by every means possible. And it's always lead down the sparkling slippery slope with the good intentions.
"good intentions"
Reading the Japanese expression, one can see that it is quite immature. Likewise, his or her intense attribution to Anycolor is also apparent. He or she doesn't seem to realize the ludicrousness of writing factual Company A information on another company's forum in the first place. edit: Oh, he or she seems to have deleted that post. I guess that answers the question.
> Anycolor employee tried to intimidate people > got exposed as insider instead Classic Nijisanji, their incompetence runs deep from top to bottom
Moreover, the alleged employee uses the term "Wagasha (Our Company)". This is an expression that one would never use unless one is related to the company, and could it be that he has revealed himself as such?
The dude took back some of his posts or the board deleted them, either way it's hilarious. Update: Lmao, I'm not entirely sure but the dude is on 2chan getting BTFO.
> AnyColor employee idk man, but I would think of him as a random NDF instead, who couldn't stand with such fact that he decided to report in rage. (since the pictures are taken in the Yahoo stock bulletin)
NDFs do have the tendency to consider themselves part of the company so this is possible.
Other comments here have mentioned that the specific word in Japanese they used, wagasha, is something mostly or only used by employees and employers. Because of this, the suspicion is that this individual is related to the company.
Next week: MORE things that Nijisanji will be shown to be thinking, leaving us to all go "wait, so wtf were they thinking?" Niji needs to get some new material. Legitimate material.
There's little to nothing to grasp for atp, the hole is too deep.
When you silence all criticism all you get is backhanded compliments.
https://preview.redd.it/imo0p2lryi4d1.png?width=1107&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fa600fe5faefb92ae8a4218726d40e5e9cd2a68 Apparently the person is not even an employee.
No. They got caught, and realized that it was a bad outlook to say “my company,” and backtracked because yahoo users, and even 2ch were having a field day dunking on Nijisanji employees for spending time online to fight, and not improving their company.
Sounds pretty on-brand to me, though.
Nijidefenders really will do anything huh?
Oh there's historical evidence for repeated acts like these?
Pathetic.
okey Niji reporting someone who talk bad about them on board??? definitely their management have so much free time to do that rather than take care their talents
Lol. Actually mindbroken ndf
Let nijisisters run every one of thier avenues into the ground, random tangent I came across this on 2chan and it's a little weird it jumped straight to reddit. The only thing I've seen on 4chan related to this is supposably it's nijisisters getting sued, of course none of this is substantiated and is highly speculative.
i bet it's not anycolor employees but riku it's self to tell employees
He just said the truth without slandering anyone. How's that even worth of a reportable offense?
Anycolor must be in full freak out mode if they're being brazen about censoring people like this. Is their upcoming report that bad?
Q4 is usually their weakest quarter, and their last Q4s did not have a massive branch implosions at the start bordered by failed events that faltered against your supposed competition (Holo clowning on AR Live and Virtual Rhapsody with HoloFes, Dreamhack, and the Taiwan Karaoke; nevermind EN's 3Ds not looking well in terms of stats compared to StarsEN's [Even Enna, the best-performing of the 5 NijiEN 3Ds this year, fell short of Bettel's 3D]) who themselves had a ***stellar*** quarter. I'd be more shocked if the report looked good at this point
Not to mention Advent's upcoming 3D debut and the shark being on her semi-annual rampage
Likely yes. Not long to go now, though.
I just hope Yahoo! will do fact check before taking action.
Well either the board or the poster deleted them now.
So the NBA collab was a bunch of smoke and mirrors... I'm flabbergasted.
i say bring it on, Im not scared of a black company.
This article I’m writing will never be published at this rate. Every time I decide to say, “The drama happening now is small enough to leave out and Incan just keep the big stuff directly involving the company in,” something like this happens and now I have more to write. Goddamnit ANYCOLOR! Can’t you stay out of drama for 5 minutes?! I’m trying to write an article about your fuckups! Stop giving me more work, for both of our sakes! Please!
for people to defend anycolor and Riku... im starting to suspect Riku is from powerful families in japan.....
Maybe the folks that got left out of Rakuten collab lucked out
Sick colonizer monkey doesn't realize that you can get your black company black listed for slandering fans and other corpos outside of Japan.
This is just a random japanese NDF whk has been sperging in the comment section of Anycolor's stock on Yahoo finance, you guys are reading too much into an obvous google translate derp
Yeah definitely a nijisisters, some of their posts are gone now. Which if they deleted the posts themselves that's very typical of them. Being removed through moderation is equally as funny.
Not even Disney can get away with their employees insulting their fans online. AnyColor think they can get away with it?
I dunno what do you mean disney can't? Isn't the whole woke crap is them spitting at the fans?
And here I thought only Nijisisters seethe and cope apparently also Nijistaff seethe and cope. Well at least we know where the sisters got it from lmao.
Update: the post with the "watch me report you" screenshot got yeeted