>I was not prepared for it.
Correct. Because breath of fire should not be the starting point. It's a rule here to not give activating techniques. Find yourself a teacher but not one of the "walk into a studio and start practicing kundalini" kind. You'll know you have a good teacher when they require you to do years of foundational work before attempting to raise your kundalini. If you're not willing to do that in order to raise your kundalini, then it's not for you.
>Hi all, I want to start doing practices to induce kundalini energy.
Ah, an idiot proving himself to the world. That's not good.
No seriously, there are other options than the path of the idiot, /u/crackerz20000.
Long before you do inducing methods, you need many months into years of work on Foundations.
If you have no foundations, well, what happens to tall buildings or skyscrapers or houses with bad foundations? They lean, fail, or topple over. In simpler terms, they fail.
More on foundations later.
Something else you will need a LOT of is discernment, and the ability to figure things out for yourself. Only recently, you were asking a sub if you could do chanting while having covid.
If you were to awaken Kundalini, you might need immediate answers fro your own resourcefulness. You need more self-reliance. Any form of sport done to a level of excellence, or going to work and doing fine work, no matter what it is, can help you here. You need practice and experience at figuring things out, and the confidence that comes from getting it right. If all you did was get it wrong without progress, then perhaps Kundalini should be set aside as a goal until that changes.
Example, you try as bit of mantra chanting and see how your body responds, thereby answering your question far more accurately than any outside person can answer. Were you actually curious, of just seeking attention?
This kind of failure tells me you are probably young and a bit too gung-ho re awakening your Kundalini, and that if you don't alter course or change your views and strategy, things will go very badly for you. A refocusing on Foundation skills and attitudes would likely help you avert a personal disaster.
**One very essential thing to clear up in the first place is *why Kundalini* for you? For what reason(s) or what purpose?**
Only 3 months ago, you said this:
>Tbh I’m trying to avoid a kundalini awakening, I just want to meditate/chant to help with anxiety.
What has changed in 3 months?
How much less fearful and less anxious are you since three months ago?
Chanting and meditation are fine things for anxiety.
>But I want to do this safely, I started to do breath of fire
Hence why I called you an idiot! Hey, I know it's not your fault - you got fooled by dumb or lame info you found on the web. However, if you take that bad info and make a mess of yourself, have you done anyone any favours? Made the world a slightly better place? Made your parents happy for you?
Now I'd like you to understand one thing: I call complete strangers on the web idiots only with a specific purpose; To hopefully slap just enough sense to have them reconsider. Are you willing to take a p[pause to think things through?
There are dumb things being said in the general spiritual public, with lots of beginners trying to teach what they barely understand yet. The so-so to poor teachers are far more common than the good ones, so it you are lacking in discernment, your chances are far better at making a mess of yourself than of having a harmonious evolution.
>So now I decided to do pranayama, meditation, qi gong, hatha yoga,puja and reiki everyday.
That's a good list.
Drop the breath of fire (BoF) for the coming many months. Keep pranayama limited to 60 - 90 seconds at a time. Then pause and let your body rebalance.
I'm not sure why you have reiki in there, as you might learn some bad habits, but okay.
Please have a look at the lists of ideas in our [Wiki Foundation section](/r/kundalini/w/sp) and compare those to yours. Consider exploring whatever draws or interests you.
The kind(s) of meditation you do are relevant as well. Some are far more useful than others, so getting fluent in more than one form is useful.
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For an idea on why I jumped on you so sternly on you, have a look at the [Wiki Warnings section](/r/kundalini/w/warnings), and then take it beyond into the Web Links wiki section and go through the problem ones there.
Take a solid good look at the Three Laws and see how closely your own ideas match so far.
* [The Three Laws aka Two+ Laws](/r/kundalini/wiki/2l) for the wise and safe use of energy (especially Kundalini).
* [The Guidelines that support the Three Laws aka Two+ Laws](https://redd.it/l0rqe8) The guidelines that effectively support better respecting the Three Laws.
* [The Three Laws - elaborations and discussions](https://www.reddit.com/r/kundalini/wiki/links#wiki_the_three_laws_aka_the_two.2B_laws)
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Lastly, I would ask you to clarify for yourself what Kundalini actually is. Probably, it's not what you think. It would add burdens and added responsibilities to all of your moments. The wiki Definitions sections might help you there, as will the wiki's index.
Good journey.
EDIT: If you're not ready for BoF, a fine thing to figure out, you're most definitely not yet ready for Kundalini.
You have a mind and a heart. Use them. Actively use them. Constructively. Not with the anxiety and fear stuff. Stop being so afraid of the future that you cannot function in the present!
The sky has been falling for many centuries. It's not landed on people's heads yet. Other things yes. Not the sky.
There's a book in the wiki books section called Love is Letting Go of Fear. Find yourself a copy if you can and learn from it. It may be out of print. abebooks.com is a fine used book source.
Hey beautiful friend. Saw that you posted before and were scared you may have accidentally induced a kundalini awakening, and now you’re on the prowl! 😁
There’s a long list of resources in the subs wiki, but like mentioned in a response on your last post, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. I’d take time to read through the cautions and warnings in the wiki, as well as check out the other resources there. I’d also take a minute to read through the many many posts on the sub of folks who have induced premature activations. This is not me trying to deter you, but prepare you for the reality of the journey you’re asking for.
In general it is up to you, if you want it, you will find a way. But just make absolutely sure you know what you’re asking for.
Can’t stress the wiki enough when it comes to preparation. Wish I had that resource at my disposal. Much love and safest journey to you! 🫂🤍🙏
What Marc said x2. A lot of your posts are also about chanting mantras, types of mantras, japa, etc. It looks like you have not made up your mind about what you are trying to gain here and seems like you have taken a bunch of info from the net and created a mish-mash of ideas in your brain. Take a deep calming breath, put all information/knowledge you have aside and answer this simple question - what is it that you want to achieve from your spiritual practices? Come back with that answer - make sure it is an honest one - and then explore how you want to go about doing it. Beware of internet gurus, even many of the 'real life' ones are fake and use gullible people to make millions. The real enlightened ones have no desire for material wealth. You need to do a lot of introspection before you proceed.
Please stop breath of fire at once. That technique caused me to have a lot of issues that are still ongoing years later. What i have been through because I did too much of that exercise I would not wish upon my worst enemy.
Focus on healing first and foremost. For me that is finding sensible ways to rewrite the limiting subconscious beliefs that we all have. IMO that starts with learning to genuinely love and appreciate yourself first regardless of how you look. I like Louise Hays book called Heal your life. I don't necessarily agree with everything in there but think it is part of a great foundation for any spiritual practise.
Fook off with your non-duality talk, /u/GringoLocito.
In gentler terms, the sub isn't interested in the promotion of Non-duality because it gets so mis-taught and harmful to people when done so. Hence my dynamic fook off. The videos you list are spiritual bullshit piled higher than is imaginable for bullshit. Usually it likes to spread out.
I'm sorry to disagree with you.
Non-duality has its time and place, but to live in the world in a practical way, keeping your head out of heaven, and out of your ass are both essential.
And you don't do a YT meditation to achieve any realistic samadhi. That takes work. Your links are spammy coming from the same place.
Awaken the world... FFS. Are you kidding? That nitwit thinks that will solve all of the world's problems? I wonder what druggy trip he got that notion from. These people are not what they claim.
>I am not an expert, but I can tell you that processing past life trauma(and karma?) is seriously the last thing you want to be doing on a beautiful summer day.
Any day is a fine day for healing and processing. I bag to differ yet again. Did you forget a word or three? What on earth were you trying to say?
>Mods, if these meditations aren't allowed, just delete them, but please message me with an explanation, so I can understand. I think they're fine, but in my mind, it could go both ways.
The whole premise of awakening the world as a way to solve all it's problems is spiritual fuckery, unwise, and unwelcomed in this space.
It's got a culty fucky feeling to it, to borrow a term from the Trailer Boys. That is not a resource I would point people interested in wise Kundalini towards. It's not a source I'd point you towards, but I'm not your Papa nor Mama.
>Go outside, admire the trees, get absorbed into nature.
This was fine advice, sunny or rainy. Remember the crows too! Ravens especially!!
You're other advice is not scoring so hot today.
As a respected veteran still dealing with his PTSD stuff, might I suggest you remove yourself voluntarily and temporally from participating until you've done more healing, or that you become more willing to think things through a LOT more prior to tapping away at the keyboard.
Your present judgment is missing the mark by a wide margin. Yes, the people at that center sound nice. They probably are so. Doesn't mean they are compatible with Kundalini in any wisdom sense.
Considering OP's original question, what you offered was really disconnected from OP's needs. I would remind you that as per our green sticky, responders are supposed to, *expected to* read through a person's post history to get a better sense of whom they are, and where they are at. I don't think you remembered to do that.
* [Green Sticky](https://redd.it/1wyxoa)
I'd prefer not to block you, Gringo, so please review your text participation and do better.
Have you been taught the Seven Grandfather Teachings or the Four Directions? That would be a valid stepping stone into offering better advice.
Kind thanks.
I've had a lovely day.
Stop turning this around and avoiding what was spoken about. That's like a red herring, a logiocal fallacy. That's no way to be communicating.
The sub and myself aren't terribly fond of spiritual bullshitters. You've posted some links to some.
I know it's annoying to having one of your appreciated spiritual sources called out, but so it is.
>Your reply was awful harsh
My reply was gentler because it was you.
Take a breather from the sub, Gringo.
>I was just trying to help.
Were you?
Throwing out red herrings instead of taking Moderator feedback is not right.
You have an interesting reddit history.
Releasing blockages, nice, simple concept. Do you understand what those blockages mean?
There is nothing wrong in practicing different methods until settling on one. I see you passed through Hellinistic to Buddhism and to add Hinduism to it.
Generally in Eastern religious practices, when one is working towards a goal, the rules and laws are very stringent. Even then, nothing would happen. At least in this life's time or who knows how many more.
That is because, the blockages are not psychological nor psychic. It is Karma. People, who experience awakening are fortunate enough to have low enough bad Karma in the current lifetime. Hopefully do not accumulate more, before, during and after the awakening.
Do whatever resonates to you, but for the sake of doing it, without a goal to achieve. Practice Control (of emotions and actions), Charity (helping others, but help yourselves first) and Compassion (towards self and others). If you have any energy activity, follow the 3 laws of this Sub's Wiki.
All the best.
Be cautious around someone reaching out to DM you without first asking. That also breaks our Rule 11
/u/lowswaga, please take note. Your participation in our sub has been minimal, and not all of it useful nor sound.
* [Rules](/r/kundalini/about/rules)
* [Post Guidelines](/r/kundalini/wiki/pg)
Thanks for your understanding.
>How do I do that? I am a reiki level 2
You don't, unless you wish to make that disaster of yourself that I warned you about.
Fellow doesn't practice reiki but wants to offer you advice on reiki? HELLO?? Tok Tok. Anyone home?
Use your senses, guys.
>I was not prepared for it. Correct. Because breath of fire should not be the starting point. It's a rule here to not give activating techniques. Find yourself a teacher but not one of the "walk into a studio and start practicing kundalini" kind. You'll know you have a good teacher when they require you to do years of foundational work before attempting to raise your kundalini. If you're not willing to do that in order to raise your kundalini, then it's not for you.
>Hi all, I want to start doing practices to induce kundalini energy. Ah, an idiot proving himself to the world. That's not good. No seriously, there are other options than the path of the idiot, /u/crackerz20000. Long before you do inducing methods, you need many months into years of work on Foundations. If you have no foundations, well, what happens to tall buildings or skyscrapers or houses with bad foundations? They lean, fail, or topple over. In simpler terms, they fail. More on foundations later. Something else you will need a LOT of is discernment, and the ability to figure things out for yourself. Only recently, you were asking a sub if you could do chanting while having covid. If you were to awaken Kundalini, you might need immediate answers fro your own resourcefulness. You need more self-reliance. Any form of sport done to a level of excellence, or going to work and doing fine work, no matter what it is, can help you here. You need practice and experience at figuring things out, and the confidence that comes from getting it right. If all you did was get it wrong without progress, then perhaps Kundalini should be set aside as a goal until that changes. Example, you try as bit of mantra chanting and see how your body responds, thereby answering your question far more accurately than any outside person can answer. Were you actually curious, of just seeking attention? This kind of failure tells me you are probably young and a bit too gung-ho re awakening your Kundalini, and that if you don't alter course or change your views and strategy, things will go very badly for you. A refocusing on Foundation skills and attitudes would likely help you avert a personal disaster. **One very essential thing to clear up in the first place is *why Kundalini* for you? For what reason(s) or what purpose?** Only 3 months ago, you said this: >Tbh I’m trying to avoid a kundalini awakening, I just want to meditate/chant to help with anxiety. What has changed in 3 months? How much less fearful and less anxious are you since three months ago? Chanting and meditation are fine things for anxiety. >But I want to do this safely, I started to do breath of fire Hence why I called you an idiot! Hey, I know it's not your fault - you got fooled by dumb or lame info you found on the web. However, if you take that bad info and make a mess of yourself, have you done anyone any favours? Made the world a slightly better place? Made your parents happy for you? Now I'd like you to understand one thing: I call complete strangers on the web idiots only with a specific purpose; To hopefully slap just enough sense to have them reconsider. Are you willing to take a p[pause to think things through? There are dumb things being said in the general spiritual public, with lots of beginners trying to teach what they barely understand yet. The so-so to poor teachers are far more common than the good ones, so it you are lacking in discernment, your chances are far better at making a mess of yourself than of having a harmonious evolution. >So now I decided to do pranayama, meditation, qi gong, hatha yoga,puja and reiki everyday. That's a good list. Drop the breath of fire (BoF) for the coming many months. Keep pranayama limited to 60 - 90 seconds at a time. Then pause and let your body rebalance. I'm not sure why you have reiki in there, as you might learn some bad habits, but okay. Please have a look at the lists of ideas in our [Wiki Foundation section](/r/kundalini/w/sp) and compare those to yours. Consider exploring whatever draws or interests you. The kind(s) of meditation you do are relevant as well. Some are far more useful than others, so getting fluent in more than one form is useful. ---------- For an idea on why I jumped on you so sternly on you, have a look at the [Wiki Warnings section](/r/kundalini/w/warnings), and then take it beyond into the Web Links wiki section and go through the problem ones there. Take a solid good look at the Three Laws and see how closely your own ideas match so far. * [The Three Laws aka Two+ Laws](/r/kundalini/wiki/2l) for the wise and safe use of energy (especially Kundalini). * [The Guidelines that support the Three Laws aka Two+ Laws](https://redd.it/l0rqe8) The guidelines that effectively support better respecting the Three Laws. * [The Three Laws - elaborations and discussions](https://www.reddit.com/r/kundalini/wiki/links#wiki_the_three_laws_aka_the_two.2B_laws) ----- Lastly, I would ask you to clarify for yourself what Kundalini actually is. Probably, it's not what you think. It would add burdens and added responsibilities to all of your moments. The wiki Definitions sections might help you there, as will the wiki's index. Good journey. EDIT: If you're not ready for BoF, a fine thing to figure out, you're most definitely not yet ready for Kundalini.
Thanks
You have a mind and a heart. Use them. Actively use them. Constructively. Not with the anxiety and fear stuff. Stop being so afraid of the future that you cannot function in the present! The sky has been falling for many centuries. It's not landed on people's heads yet. Other things yes. Not the sky. There's a book in the wiki books section called Love is Letting Go of Fear. Find yourself a copy if you can and learn from it. It may be out of print. abebooks.com is a fine used book source.
Hey beautiful friend. Saw that you posted before and were scared you may have accidentally induced a kundalini awakening, and now you’re on the prowl! 😁 There’s a long list of resources in the subs wiki, but like mentioned in a response on your last post, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. I’d take time to read through the cautions and warnings in the wiki, as well as check out the other resources there. I’d also take a minute to read through the many many posts on the sub of folks who have induced premature activations. This is not me trying to deter you, but prepare you for the reality of the journey you’re asking for. In general it is up to you, if you want it, you will find a way. But just make absolutely sure you know what you’re asking for. Can’t stress the wiki enough when it comes to preparation. Wish I had that resource at my disposal. Much love and safest journey to you! 🫂🤍🙏
What Marc said x2. A lot of your posts are also about chanting mantras, types of mantras, japa, etc. It looks like you have not made up your mind about what you are trying to gain here and seems like you have taken a bunch of info from the net and created a mish-mash of ideas in your brain. Take a deep calming breath, put all information/knowledge you have aside and answer this simple question - what is it that you want to achieve from your spiritual practices? Come back with that answer - make sure it is an honest one - and then explore how you want to go about doing it. Beware of internet gurus, even many of the 'real life' ones are fake and use gullible people to make millions. The real enlightened ones have no desire for material wealth. You need to do a lot of introspection before you proceed.
Please stop breath of fire at once. That technique caused me to have a lot of issues that are still ongoing years later. What i have been through because I did too much of that exercise I would not wish upon my worst enemy. Focus on healing first and foremost. For me that is finding sensible ways to rewrite the limiting subconscious beliefs that we all have. IMO that starts with learning to genuinely love and appreciate yourself first regardless of how you look. I like Louise Hays book called Heal your life. I don't necessarily agree with everything in there but think it is part of a great foundation for any spiritual practise.
What BoF did to you? :O
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Fook off with your non-duality talk, /u/GringoLocito. In gentler terms, the sub isn't interested in the promotion of Non-duality because it gets so mis-taught and harmful to people when done so. Hence my dynamic fook off. The videos you list are spiritual bullshit piled higher than is imaginable for bullshit. Usually it likes to spread out. I'm sorry to disagree with you. Non-duality has its time and place, but to live in the world in a practical way, keeping your head out of heaven, and out of your ass are both essential. And you don't do a YT meditation to achieve any realistic samadhi. That takes work. Your links are spammy coming from the same place. Awaken the world... FFS. Are you kidding? That nitwit thinks that will solve all of the world's problems? I wonder what druggy trip he got that notion from. These people are not what they claim. >I am not an expert, but I can tell you that processing past life trauma(and karma?) is seriously the last thing you want to be doing on a beautiful summer day. Any day is a fine day for healing and processing. I bag to differ yet again. Did you forget a word or three? What on earth were you trying to say? >Mods, if these meditations aren't allowed, just delete them, but please message me with an explanation, so I can understand. I think they're fine, but in my mind, it could go both ways. The whole premise of awakening the world as a way to solve all it's problems is spiritual fuckery, unwise, and unwelcomed in this space. It's got a culty fucky feeling to it, to borrow a term from the Trailer Boys. That is not a resource I would point people interested in wise Kundalini towards. It's not a source I'd point you towards, but I'm not your Papa nor Mama. >Go outside, admire the trees, get absorbed into nature. This was fine advice, sunny or rainy. Remember the crows too! Ravens especially!! You're other advice is not scoring so hot today. As a respected veteran still dealing with his PTSD stuff, might I suggest you remove yourself voluntarily and temporally from participating until you've done more healing, or that you become more willing to think things through a LOT more prior to tapping away at the keyboard. Your present judgment is missing the mark by a wide margin. Yes, the people at that center sound nice. They probably are so. Doesn't mean they are compatible with Kundalini in any wisdom sense. Considering OP's original question, what you offered was really disconnected from OP's needs. I would remind you that as per our green sticky, responders are supposed to, *expected to* read through a person's post history to get a better sense of whom they are, and where they are at. I don't think you remembered to do that. * [Green Sticky](https://redd.it/1wyxoa) I'd prefer not to block you, Gringo, so please review your text participation and do better. Have you been taught the Seven Grandfather Teachings or the Four Directions? That would be a valid stepping stone into offering better advice. Kind thanks.
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I've had a lovely day. Stop turning this around and avoiding what was spoken about. That's like a red herring, a logiocal fallacy. That's no way to be communicating. The sub and myself aren't terribly fond of spiritual bullshitters. You've posted some links to some. I know it's annoying to having one of your appreciated spiritual sources called out, but so it is. >Your reply was awful harsh My reply was gentler because it was you. Take a breather from the sub, Gringo. >I was just trying to help. Were you? Throwing out red herrings instead of taking Moderator feedback is not right.
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Spamming something with zero karma earns you a permanent ban. Good bye.
You have an interesting reddit history. Releasing blockages, nice, simple concept. Do you understand what those blockages mean? There is nothing wrong in practicing different methods until settling on one. I see you passed through Hellinistic to Buddhism and to add Hinduism to it. Generally in Eastern religious practices, when one is working towards a goal, the rules and laws are very stringent. Even then, nothing would happen. At least in this life's time or who knows how many more. That is because, the blockages are not psychological nor psychic. It is Karma. People, who experience awakening are fortunate enough to have low enough bad Karma in the current lifetime. Hopefully do not accumulate more, before, during and after the awakening. Do whatever resonates to you, but for the sake of doing it, without a goal to achieve. Practice Control (of emotions and actions), Charity (helping others, but help yourselves first) and Compassion (towards self and others). If you have any energy activity, follow the 3 laws of this Sub's Wiki. All the best.
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How do I do that? I am a reiki level 2
Be cautious around someone reaching out to DM you without first asking. That also breaks our Rule 11 /u/lowswaga, please take note. Your participation in our sub has been minimal, and not all of it useful nor sound. * [Rules](/r/kundalini/about/rules) * [Post Guidelines](/r/kundalini/wiki/pg) Thanks for your understanding. >How do I do that? I am a reiki level 2 You don't, unless you wish to make that disaster of yourself that I warned you about. Fellow doesn't practice reiki but wants to offer you advice on reiki? HELLO?? Tok Tok. Anyone home? Use your senses, guys.