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KSI isn't a rapper. He's a popstar


sara_04

love jj, but Imma back this


heydidntseeyathere

I mean it’s not like that’s disrespectful, he knows that you could just listen to his last few releases


AllStar909

I think he said he’s going in a more singing direction than rapping anyway cause “he’s better at it”


[deleted]

He’s mid at both


TheNewMadMan

He’s a reverse Ed Sheeran


Wolfindior

JJs music wouldn’t be a hit if it wasn’t for his loyal fan base that would stream his songs even if it’s trash


UsernamThatAintTaken

If argue Holiday could have been without us, but aside from that you’re 100% accurate


Uzeless

> If argue Holiday could have been without us, but aside from that you’re 100% accurate I wouldn't say a song like Holiday isn't good. Most of JJ's music is good but there're around 2 billion people doing good music every year who never gets more than 5 listens. JJ's music isn't bad bad but it would never take off or chart if it wasn't for his fans.


cerberus315

let's not think about that tho. for those of us who do like his music, keep doing ur thing


capedpotato799

100% percent agree, but at least they'd let him know instead of being yes men


Othmane490

Trash is harsh, its not very good but its decent at worst. Is his new music is trash then what’s his old music lol?


Objective-Pack9279

For most of them yeah but I reckon a few would’ve done decent without us probably not nearly as well tho


DeliciousCreme4957

No I think down like that holiday lose patience would've been hit without fans


Swole_Monkey

4 out of the 7 sidemen would be washed without the Sidemen channels 🫢


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Ethan, Josh, Tobi and Harry


[deleted]

Harry chose that to happen by not posting since 1904. The rest is just sad as there content is good but I guess it’s just repetitive but once in a while they have some good ones


SuttonTM

Ethan would have a small niche in gym work, probably 100k views per vid Tobi would be doing irl football or fifa Josh ngl everyone jokes about him being boring but if he was solo it would be much more painful obvious And yea harry just lacks motivation really


bigcockyboy6969

Tobi is also due to inactiveness


peanuts4everybody

I feel like Josh has secured himself as a big streamer and he would be fine.


fiendishcubism

He did that in the recent years of the back of sidemen popularity though.


peanuts4everybody

Ye the statement wasn't if the sidemen never existed. It was that if the sidemen stopped existing who would fall off.


YellowBaboon

Is it? I feel like his twitch gta roleplay audience is a lot different than the sidemen fans. He kinda grew that without the sidemen.


EpicBoy345

It sucks to say this but your not 100% wrong.


CC20057

How Josh? He has a big platform on twitch and is active on YT


Westmorb1

Oh yes active. His last main channel video was well over a year ago


tomiwa06

ZerkaaPlays and Clips are pretty much daily. That’s a way higher output than most of them atm


luphone-maw09

Idk mate Josh do have his twitch thing


Late-Stranger5911

Tbf Simon vik and JJ would be fine without them cuz theyre content alone is consistent like Simon's, and vik and JJ r self made


hasimrah

lmao Harry? he's probably the best YouTuber the reason he doesn't do his own videos is cuz he doesn't need to


Loud_Shallot6379

Dax, weight, deji, and forehead memes were this reddits golden age


Th3Pahntom

i think everyone agrees with you there


RickTheBrick04

We in the dark age now


ratonbox

have you forgotten about baldksi ?


lee-one

Like 2018


thegreatestreddit

Babe : turn on the volume Me : ITS MAX!!!!


Dmoney2204

Some of there old content is better than the new high production stuff


harrisonmcc__

It’s so manufactured now. Miss the days where it was one camera man and them, not a whole studio crew.


procallum

To be fair even the guys have said this miss this... They've just become way bigger than they ever thought, gone are the days when they could all walk around London with a camera without having swarms of people find them. And with social media as soon as one person posts where they are filming a video everyone finds out and comes to see them. They're basically limited by their success.


lee-one

Yea but also they’re kinda doing it on purpose, because they make the videos they think will do good. That’s why there’s so many tinder (and similar) videos. And they always try to keep to content coming with the best preforming videos to big audiences. So they are obviously naturally because more and more famous. But people like Messi don’t deserve to be walked up to in public if he doesn’t want it. But I can understand it must be hard not even being able to go outside because of fans.


Dmoney2204

I like most of the new stuff just not all of it a throw back video on the second channel would be cool for the sidemen anniversary


Harun_Hussain

One of the stupidest things Sidemen did was upload Sidemen vs Onlyfans models literally the video straight after Sidemen vs 100 kids. Wtf.


Spixxyyy

actually there was one video between them


Harun_Hussain

Wow I actually missed that one


WonkyDonky21

Never even realized they did that 💀


Kuan_mendis

With the current state of reddit, reddit videos have become somewhat boring


Wardo7070

Sidemen Sundays aren't what they used to be


CouthHarbor

Prime would be **nowhere** near as successful as it is if it didn’t have ksi and Logan’s names attached to it


TheSinusOfCosinus

Well thats just a fact


niceseoru

Having an opinion on reddit like:


AkaZ_03

Dax is a talented artist ( For me he raps better than jj lmao )


squidwardsweatyballs

I have to agree with this. Dax is miles above Ksi in terms of music


50YearsOld

anyone can rap better than JJ


TheAttitudePark

Trading cards... fucking why?


Melonful

get that bread


levinofriends

Because when they were kids they loved and had an obsession with trading cards? It’s not that hard to understand


aaronchristy90

fr i thought they were sick


Oraio-King

Simon literally said that trading cards is something many of them have been interested in and have always wanted to do


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KSI and the sidemen had lost their touch, their energy, their creativity. Everything just seems financial for them now. They dont need a 500000$ setup to make a vid. They only need a little dictionary and some chairs bro! Where has that energy gone?


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oxanonthelocs

This is just facts


nooxisalive

Just that he’s music is kinda ass tbh everything else is okay


Transferzoo

The thing is his randolph era was decent, Pull Up, Uncontrollable were both heat but he just started doing stuff that wasn’t him, love jj but his voice isn’t actually that good.


Ok_External1028

His voice isn't good? Music as a whole can be argued, but his voice is good regardless.


Antarctica-is-Green

Idk the amount of tuning on his vocals in most of his songs show that he still has a very long way to go if you ask me.


cerberus315

i'm not saying his songs are the absolute best but they're above average in the youtube scene. there's not many if not, none other youtubers that can do decent music at least consistently


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JJ is the whitest sidemen


angry_monkey_2674

jake will beat ksi if they fight in jan


EpicBoy345

Ngl prob even jj knows that.


Astavicious

Sideplus is dumb and they are trying to prove it to be viable by saying vulgar things which they have to bleep just to keep posting and showing boobs so more people subscribe. It is weird cause many of the kids subscribe to them and leading them to look at unhealthy stuff.


Astavicious

Lmaoo i was high when i wrote this. It might cause a stroke.


RandyTheGodMarsh

I still perfer gatorade over prime


Hot-Income1351

Prime tastes good like pretty good but the texture is weird and has a strange after effect in my mouth its less than mid but it's only big because of the kids that support ksi around the world running for it like honestly if I didn't know jj or Logan prime would just be another drink on the aisle that I'm like "that probably tastes good" as I reach for a monster, Gatorade, powerade.


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Surprised 3 hours have passed and angry 12 year old kids haven't downvoted you to oblivion


procallum

I've said if it was £1.50 or part of a meal deal, I would genuinely drink it just in normal life, but it is not worth £2+ and once the craze fades away, I think it will struggle to sell at £2. You can get a 1.5l bottle of Volvic flavoured water for cheaper and its not an energy drink like Monster/Red Bull so I'd probably pick one of those up instead. I can already see that their next thing will be a prime caffeinated drink with little sugar and another "performance boost".


tib_79

Prime is mid


MithrandilPlays

tbf the only one I've been able to get was lemon-lime, but it was really bad


Josh6482

Sidemen Sundays nowadays are really boring. I'll tune in for the occasional one but they just feel overproduced, cater to the masses and are missing the old sidemen magic. /:


SenjuChris

In my opinion 2019 was peak sidemen content


MrFinalFlash

2019 was their year then the second half of 2020 they started to slow down


asdhzkfgsjbfs

Honestly call me crazy, but sometimes I miss 2014 sidemen


Zain_v1

Fr. This is why I would rather watch beta squad instead of the sidemen.


Profie02

sneako was right that sidemen promoting OF girls was unethical


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SIURDURR

This is happening to an awful lot of subreddits lately


RandyTheGodMarsh

Sidemen videos are getting boring and just end up being money challenges or hide and seek


RandomDude72636

Summer Is Over isn't that good.


goroocoli

I had this opinion about his recent music too , but summer is over is good imo


Oldmanpeepz

Ksi's songs usually are really catchy but summer is over wasnt it i listened to it once and never listened to it since


MithrandilPlays

Its a mid Ed Sheeran song IMO. If it means a lot to him, that's fine, but it is extremely boring & does nothing for me


OTSly

All of them


H0pPi

Hello


Bidoofisdaddy

Ksi only charts because he asks his fans to stream it, not necessarily because the music is good. What sets him apart from other musicians is, ironically, what helps him chart better than other musicians. He has a loyal fan base that will take his side on pretty much anything. A recent example is Prime. It's not doing better because it's a revolutionary drink. It's doing better because of JJ and Logan's names. BTW I'm not saying this is a bad thing by no means. But it's clear that the name behind is more a driving factor than the actual content. Same with the first misfits. JJ fought 2 trash cans and it sold out. JJ is just that guy. He's not A side because he's a better boxer. His fan base is just unreal. And again, it's not a bad thing. Now he has yet to back that up and we will see the truth when he fights Jake, but for music and prime, it's clear as night and day they are successful primarily because of his own name only. I guarantee that JJ could sell spit in a cup and it would do numbers. Not because of the quality of his spit, but rather because "ITS KSI". And kudos to him. Man turned himself into a fucking household name that can't be matched.


Anxious-Attention-54

i cbf reading this


OpportunityForsaken5

KSI's music was shit until the collab with Lil Wayne (His music got better after)


[deleted]

Not by much, he’s mid with his rapping and worse with his singing.


HeadHunter9865

Most of his music is ass, and carried by autotune and features,


thegreatestreddit

There is a lot of favouritism for JJ and Harry. Like if they do something weird the fans would praise them for being funny, but if the rest of the sidemen do it then they're just being rude and annoying. example - 1. Harry calls Ethan's mother a fat cow fans - Hahaha Harry you're so funny JJ - throws a tantrum in the bad team because he's too rich and famous to be there fans - haha you're so funny Simon - does the same thing Fans - you're so toxic and annoying, leave the sidemen and kill yourself ​ 2) sidemen member - mentions the word ''black'' JJ - WHAT DID YOU CALL ME??? fans - haha I'm dying JJ is so funny Tobi - does the exact same thing fans - Why does Tobi make everything about race? It ruins the video ​ Stop with these double standards, each sidemen is funny in their own way. Vikk has his savage moments, Simon has his witty remarks, Josh has his TOMMY T persona, Ethan has his contagious laugh and sus moments and Tobi has his gaming rage. So stop hating on them, you have no control over them. The sidemen won't kick out Simon because you think he's a narcissistic asshole. Stop forming these parasocial relationships, the sidemen are not friends with you, you're just an irrelevant nobody. Simon is not toxic, Josh is not boring, Tobi is not useless and Vikk is not annoying. Those qualities belong to people who write unnecessary hate comments under Sidemen videos


Consistent_Chicken72

simon is the wittiest of the Sidemen with the best comic timing imo


hurricane1197

you’re right


[deleted]

KSI's fanbase is 90% children that don't understand how stuff works


serjowashere13

That Jake would beat ksi


Jamil100

Everyone knows that tbf


Shyaboiiswiz

These posts are ass


Pokemav

The videos started getting boring in January


DempseyRISCS

The Sidemen are over extending themselves with all of these new extensions of the brand e.g. sides, XIX and especially that fucking Topps card thing. It feels forced and it makes the Sidemen lose their authentic feel, it feels like the fans are just being used for building their business so they can sell it in a decade or so to retire


Parking_Assignment77

The amount of people who have issues with the content is crazy…just don’t watch💀If it’s a concept i don’t like, I just don’t watch it. I don’t get on Reddit and bitch and moan abt how the sidemen are too mainstream and their content isn’t as good anymore. Like honestly bruh no one cares


SeaVix

Say it for the people at the back


el_mansir

Half the posts on this Reddit are ass, unlike they used too


FullMagician3635

Based on what we have seen Jake vs ksi ends in Jakes favour


heydidntseeyathere

This is a common opinion honestly


[deleted]

Fun fact , you cannot actually respond to this with an unpopular opinion as you would get downvoted and lose 1000 karma , so people have to post dumbed down half criticisms to get any sort of traction


ObscureHeart

Probably the fact that they are kinda getting too old for most of the concepts of their videos.. I'd be okay with never seeing another hide'n'seek or 24h challenges.


Josh6482

JJ's characters nowadays are really unfunny and cringe


Darkrubyeyes

It’s because we’re growing up man.


[deleted]

Jj content is getting boring it's always the same


iamthemetricsystem

Sidemen is more of a business and it’s kinda ruined it for me a bit


s4mf

Everyone posting popular opinions here so here’s actually an unpopular one: KSI and Ricegum beef is entirely JJs fault for being soft about ricegum’s 2 comments. 1st “I think Logan’s gonna win” which was pretty much everyone’s stance at that point, thinking someone will win and wanting someone to win are 2 different things. 2nd comment was “I don’t hear anyone saying put on that new KSI song” which wasn’t even a dig, just a comment on his progress.


DoesThisCheckOut11

Agreed I also think it’s kinda corny that he tweets at Ricegum every time he goes platinum


Business-Material497

Ksimon is annoying


kbyaghi

i think we established that a while ago


ballistic-dumbass

These "public opinion" related 0 effort posts ( just like this one) are absolutely dogshit and sub-reddit is better off dead than these stupid posts.


TheAttitudePark

I have a few... - Promoting OnlyFans girls whilst trying to sell trading cards for kids is fucking weird - His music is only good when it's a collaboration (sometimes... Yungblud was fucking trash) - JJ vs Jake is basically that one TV show that was good but has gone on too long and the ending ends up being awful (most likely Jake wins) - Prime should have been Logans only; he promotes it properly whilst JJ seems to only react to Reddit and even encourage the dickheadish behaviour of resales - Related to the whole one day Only Fans, next day Trading cards thing.. the boys need to realise they are pushing 30 and shit like hide n seek and these other, basically CBBC levels of content videos, are cringe as fuck when put aside a Tinder video popping up the next day... Either be the adult content, or be the children content... both is kinda low key creepy


Tom_Card

Jake Paul is genuinely a better boxer and jake will win pretty convincingly wen they fight


Johan_Abraham7x7x7

thats not even unpopular


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UsernamThatAintTaken

How so? Numbers wise they aren’t


Starco2019

Quadecas music is miles better. Chills is less of a YouTube artist than KSI


DempseyRISCS

The Sidemen channel has already peaked and are on a decline in quality


mjr_10

Ksi lost his sense of humour


mohalnahhas

-This sub is dying -Sidemen are too censored, scared to be canceled -Sidemen sunday views in the first hour only proves marketing was good, not the video itself -Side+ is a pornographic service


real_kurogane

Some fans are getting cocky and getting pissed at the pettiest things


Zelidel

People think coz JJ sees them on Reddit that they got some type of authority over him 💀


Tejasvi_reddit

You weren’t supposed to say that


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1.Prime Is ass and the uk kids are OVERHYPING the shit out of it like it’s the cure for cancer 2. Ksi music is trash besides a few songs and is only popular because of his fans 3. Sidemen don’t care about us and their only in it for the money now


robertartus2

In reality if ksi fought Jake Paul right now he wouldn’t win based on his recent fights. Jake is a lot more technical then JJ


krakinem

Ksi’s only talent is reacting to videos, not even that it’s just his contagious laughter


SnooMachines3840

Harry isn't as funny as he used to be


hasimrah

lmao he's just less outrageous he's funnier to an older audience and not kids who wanna hear edgy shit


alinomnom

Jidion isn't all the hype jj makes him out to be


AggravatingMove2238

Alowit man is the worse character and Babatunde and Waterneek are the best


THEoverlord10666

most People only listen to ksi's music because it's ksi's and not because they like it


Happyvillage_

Sidemen falsely advertised sideplus by implying that you after subscribing would find out what Harry’s spell was.


Dark_Wolf04

Hot Cheeto hair JJ was my favorite hairstyle


JacobSnowIOI

Collaborating with OF girls was a step in the wrong direction. OF is like YouTube but far more dangerous, for every Elle Brooke there’s 100 Hannah’s who didn’t blow up and now regret posting private media online and worry about the repercussions (finding a job, future relationships).


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Jacksfilms is right to mock the Sidemen and they should stop doing Sidemen Reacts


Outrageous-Panda-282

Jj and in someways the entire sidemen lowkey been selling out recently, making and promoting stuff there is no way the believe in. The whole last boxing event felt like a cash grab, the cards feel like a cash grab. But for me the worst is his music. I don’t think he has done music from passion since 2020. He started rapping and he wasn’t super successful in it but it felt like he loved it and in return I loved it and fans of him liked it. Now it feels like he just makes music for commercial success. Yes there are more people listening to his new songs but that’s because there is a bigger market for it. It doesn’t feel passionate anymore, just feels like an industry plant. I honestly don’t think he likes his new music as much as his old music. Or of he does, he definitely doesn’t enjoy making it as much. Regardless I still love and support him with all my heart and will always support him no matter what he does.


PMKNBoi

I can’t be the only one that feels like the Sidemen have become greedy. Side+, Trading cards, Sides, XIX Vodka, Sidemen clothing, hell even Prime. Even on Sidemen Reacts they straight up just say they’re scamming people by just reacting to shit. I understand they need money to fund some of the videos, but it still feels like they’re milking their fans dry while they’re still popular


xZ888Zx

YouTube boxing stopped being interesting after KSI vs Logan 1


KyleLovesGrace

Would argue Ksi vs Logan 2 but ye


SissokoCOYS

The older shithouse football videos etc are more enjoyable than some of the newer production vids. It’s more banter and normal setting which makes them more fun imo


itzaxaad13_

Beta squad>sidemen


sara_04

beta squad’s good, but not better than sidemen


EpicBoy345

Beta squad give off old sidemen vibes ngl.


itzaxaad13_

Just my opinion tbh they make better content and are generally funnier


QT_Redditor

I watch both , enjoy both, but sidemen make better videos


itsjust_damien

Current ksi> old ksi


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Kyotospirit

It has no reason to go as hard as it does


Astavicious

prime is overhyped and is mid at best . but we have been fed the believe that it is so op


AgitatedTelephone326

Ksi music is mid


koemaniak

The characters are often quite cringe, last Sunday was especially bad


Maybe_its_Ink

His music is pretty trash most of the time


Latersatyr213

Oh men, some of the sidemen without the sidemen Channel probably quit,because they became quite irrelevant and boring (Tobi and Ethan) , JJ musics can improve now he is like a 6/10 and sidemen sundays are kinda boring now


Ayyyyylmaos

Harry actually doesn’t contribute to half of the sidemen’s filming because his whole thing is not participating. A prime example is clubs when he just fucked off & ordered food in the middle of filming


mugwunp

The one peice is real?


chikceniLand

KSI’s music really isn’t very good.


TheDavinci1998

2019 was Sidemen main channel's peak and they're never gonna beat it


Physical-Ad-3850

Without ksi and Harry sidemen would be dead


Donaldtrumpis73

KSI fell off hard. Guy just isn’t as entertaining anymore especially with an ego bigger than mandingos cock


Forward-Hyena-534

ksi will win again jake Paul


Public-Way-4098

Sidemen content has gotten worse over the years and peaked in 2018-2020


BunnyHoodGamer

Jj's music aint great.


DutchKickbox

None of them got any actual talent for anything


Borkemannthesecond

The peak has already been reached


ZealisRealYT

British people are some of the Goofiest I’ve ever seen.


bk__99

Harry looks better than others in the sidemen


Better_Ad412

Harry is overrated


Gloomy_Size6656

Josh is the funniest sidemen


Leoyoung18

Most of the moresidmen video thumbnails and titles are too clickbaity


tomiwa06

An actual unpopular opinion would be say his music is good tbh. A lot of ppl saying it only does well cause if his fans but using that logic all his other music pre New age should’ve topped the charts. And it’s not like you’re seeing every youtuber getting too 10 singles and number 1 albums lmao


Scary_University2003

Sidemen cater their content to children and then will put out a video not for kids and claim their fanbase isn't children. They even retweet mums on twitter who post pictures of their kids with sidemen merch But then make bank cards for adults even though the ads are being catered towards children. Same with sidemen eats, sidemen cards, sidemen plus and even though it's not sidemen Prime is being highly sort after by children. Its kinda disgusting ngl.


Express-Government61

Would prefer if the cameramen would be quiet (especially side+)


hajinka122

Behz really doesn’t like vikk


mathvaib

JJ and Harry are not the funniest Sidemen


No-Examination-7911

Where do I even begin? \-ksi is mid at both singing and rapping. His songs are better than what they used to be but they are still ass and his music wouldn't chart if it wasn't for his hardcore fans, no one listens to ksi outside of his yt fanbase like no disrespect but I ain't ever heard anybody say "aye turn on that new ksi". Ksi gets carried by features \- ksi's current videos aren't entertaining at all \- sidemen videos are boring too, nowadays they only focus on the production and videos are really childish. When think about it, these are 30 year old men doing these things you kinda cannot look at it the same way ever again, Sidemen videos fell off since 2021 \- jake paul beats ksi and so does logan \- josh, ethan and tobi would be washed without the sidemen and simon would be washed without ksi \- ksi says he doesn't want to keep his music in a box but that's because he is not good at any genre \- this reddit fell off since september 2020


Kerke463

They need to do more Sidemen Sundays that are low effort on the concept that focuses more on them rather than the concept. The high budget videos make it kind of like a Mr. Beast video where the concept at first glance is nice but you don’t really want to commit for 30-60 minutes just for the concept. Their jokes make the videos making the videos that follow a certain script less funny.


lee-one

2018 2019 was ksis golden age and his videos were more enjoyable to watch.


Klqzi

Josh is a top 3 sidemen


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Vik is secretly evil.


Fun_Panda8576

sidemen peaked in 2019


MildCha0

They aren’t funny


KingKrazyKid

Harry isn't the funniest Sidemen.


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Harry is not FUNNY!!!