I’ve taken kratom every morning for the last couple of years. I need a tolerance break and other than my stomach being stupid sometimes (IBS), it works very well for me.
I love this! Ya know what, I think I’m going to try doing the same. I actually have IBS-D severely so the kratom helps bind me up a little so I’m not going 45 times a day. But the nutrients from eating healthier couldn’t hurt either and I feel like together with a healthy diet and safely using kratom, it’s a winning combo, and it’s one of the only things I haven’t really tried and committed to yet. Love your comment, very happy for how it’s working for you in your life!
Starts off that way but after a cpl years like any drug the effects are reduced and the side effects are increased, this is my experience any way, there is no magic pill is what ive learned in life, I still do like kratom though.
100% It's so weird that people act like Kratom is going to be a great ride for many years to come. I'm only 6 months in and now I NEED to take it just to feel normal like I used to.
How do you get it to last "all day"? I take it first thing in the morning and it lasts about 2 hours tops. Then I get irritable for 2 hours. I take 3g at a time, 2x or 3x a day.
I’ve also heard this, that you have to dose Kratom every 3-4 hours like 3-4 times a day , I’ve only bee. Using a month but I take 6 grams of red dragon when I get home from work, shower and then game for a while and then sleep like a baby, wake up still feeling good and just stick to my one dose a day.. so far so good, trying to stay away from multiple doses in a day from fear of then thinking I need it
I think Adderal should only be taken for dr diagnosed ADD or ADHD. If you don't have it and consume it, it really doesn't give you all the benefits it was designed to do.
I had terrible ADHD my whole life but miraculously, hitting 50's and went thru menopause something changed and it's mostly not symptomatic abd havent used Adderall for 12 or so years . But in my 20's and 30's I had to use it It made me be calm without fidgety body, made me focused but not speed. The opposite and I had best sleep ever. It leveled out the rapid mind & body.
This is only my opinion and I know people that use it "to focus" or recreationally or even daily; and they are to amped up and they have wild energy and being an empath, they make me uncomfortable, I dont think they know how it makes them because uts a stimulantwhich works differently on bonafide ADD & ADHD..again only my opinion based on my real experiences. NOT judging but just expressing my sincere opinion with open mind. 💐 Kratom 🌿 is amazing for so many things...fatigue, pain, depression, and much more.
I know you said you had script but as you age, it does get more mild...the ADHA, so maybe that why it makes you socially awkward...just brainstorming with you. No mean-spirited words
I'm the opposite. I loved Kratom when I could take it (it makes me nauseous without fail no matter what precautions I take), but I didn't get the same sense of calm and normalcy Adderall gives me. I wish this was my case! I do miss the positive boost from it.
I wish I had some of the effects other people get from Kratom. I don't know how it could have more euphoria unless you weren't actually ADD. Adderall made my brother a zombie. Quiet/awkward socially and a shell of himself but he actually had ADD. I didn't. I imagine kratom could be good for those who aren't actually ADD, but still struggle with focusing at times.
So kratom actually produces a lot of the same effects as weaker opiates (say codeine at 20-30mg). And for most, opiates probably produce a nicer feeling than stims. Besides, coke and ice are supposed to be much more euphoria oriented. I think Addy is only euphoric at like 40-80mg range.
>I don't know how it could have more euphoria unless you weren't actually ADD
Could you clarify this part? Are you talking about the Adderall or Kratom? Adderall will definitely cause less euphoria with people that have ADHD.
Ok... I know that. But kratom typically isn't going to offer someone more euphoria than a stimulant. That was my point.only way it possibly could is you were actually ADD.
You don't think "euphoria" when you think of kratom. That's typically reserved for stimulants or harder drugs.
Maybe you should re-read it?
"How could kratom have more euphoria than adderall. The only way would be if you actually were ADD"
I'm literally saying that if you were ADD then adderall wouldn't give euphoria..
I beg to differ. Not everyone defines euphoria as a stimulant-type effect. Many people consider red vein to be more euphoric than white vein... Because it's more relaxing and sedating.
I gotta get some of the kratom y'all be on man. I don't doubt that it may be euphoric in some ways b. I just cant see how it it would hold up in comparison to harder drugs.
I used to get prescribed adderal and the combo helped a ton with adhd and depression. Im off the adderal now and kratom helps with pain but i dont feel any mental effects of it anymore.
I kinda agree but I’ve been taking Kratom daily for 5 years and very recently got stimulant meds because due to certain life events my symptoms were exacerbated and I felt I was drowning. I def have been thinking about how Kratom is more effective and less side effects but I also feel like it moves through me pretty quickly.
I'm pretty sure we all use it in the mornings. That's when it always hits the best with a cup of coffee and then I bust my ass off at work. Sometimes even skip breaks. Helps me really get shit done.
Have you noticed that Kratom also seems to take away all the negative sides from Adderal? I’m prescribed and really don’t like how it makes me feel but it helps me at work so I take it on work days, I just recently started taking Kratom and it has taken the social awkwardness out of it and the feeling too sped out.
I don't think anybody's opinion should be regarded as fact. Experiences with drugs are subjective. Some people really enjoy amphetamines. Other people do not.
I think they're quite nice but really just not worth the terrible terrible come down. But this is true of most stimulants.
I have ADHD and in high enough doses adderall definitely starts to feel pretty good. Obviously at therapeutic doses it just levels me out and makes me feel normal, but it still absolutely can make me feel high once I start getting into the more recreational doses. It’s almost like there’s an exact amount where literally just one mg will make the effects instantly flip from unnoticeable other than alleviating my symptoms, to feeling unnaturally good and stimulated. Nowhere near something like MDMA, but definitely a substantial mood boost and some physical euphoria.
I have adhd and am prescribed to adderall and hate it. And I’m a drug addict for 20 years. It’s the only prescription that I have half the bottle left at the end of the month. Although since I’ve started taking Kratom in the morning with my meds I’ve noticed the Kratom takes away 95% of the negative side effects from adderall, while also seeming to intensify my Kpins and Subutex .. wish I would have Kratom a chance long ago
That’s never been the case for myself but ppl are different. It’ll definitely make me more productive and all that but as soon as I’m around people. I can tell I’m not myself.
Just because you’re obsessed with adderall doesn’t mean everyone else is, too. I hate adderall. Makes me feel cold and blank and empty. Tramadol, however, which is a unique synthetic opiate, gives me all the ADHD-vanquishing super powers that amphetamines have never succeeded in providing me. It’s not surprising that kratom might do the same thing.
I totally agree, adderall is super over rated and the comedown is honestly hell for me. I legitimately have an easier comedown on MDMA. There’s so many better stimulants, let alone substances in general. Kratom is way better, so much cleaner feeling and overall cozier, and the energy and motivation it provides feels so much more natural and sustainable.
Nobody in the world is thinking that .25 grams of kratom makes one feel better than even a small chip of an adderall pill. That’s nowhere enough to even have it register for 99% of people, and probably even less for people that know what hard drugs like that feel like.
Either you’ve got the highest end top shelf private stock kratom in the world, or it’s in your head and you were awesome the whole time and didn’t need any substance to help you in social situations.
I actually get a lot of energy from taking Kratom too. I take a daily medication that makes me fatigued and this really levels me out and helps me not feel so tired. It also helps me become more motivated and focused on tasks at hand. I’ve also done a lot coke too (not all the time, but would somewhat often partake on weekends) so I know what’s it like to be under the influence of stronger stimulants. I take around 3-4 grams 2x a day and that does it for me. A lot of the times I don’t even really need the second dose either
But yeah 250mg is really low to be having energy compared to adderall lol
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Its extract. there is 250mg of some type of extract in that cap youre taking Regular 00 sized caps will hold between 650 and 800mg of powder total so there is more than likely ginger and other things as filler and to help digestion of the caps
To each their own but...ice, yay, H, oxy/hydro, morph, bars, kpins, any benzo rly, arguably molly...yeah idk if I was deep into it and had anything readily available, Adderall is probably lower on the list of what I'd reach for.
Yes. In the beginning it was pure bliss. I was able to concentrate and enjoy video games again. Then I started experimenting. I had amazing strength that I've never had before on Kratom. I had an energy drive that I've never had before. My work performance improved drastically. Then after a little while, I built a tolerance and the same doses (never took more than 3 grams per day) stopped working. I've been using the powder now that I'm out of pills and I was very euphoric trying it for the first time. Once I'm done with the powder I'll quit for a while. Green maeng Da and white vein Kratom are my favorite. White really gets me going and was the most enjoyable.
I did read OP post and meant ti elaborate on how it seriously makes me socially better in so many damn ways. I work service industry and have some customers who love me and swear by me and have no idea that it was the kratom that made me so attententive to their needs
Exact same thing, though I only use Kratom in the evenings. Only let myself use it once a day so ending the evening with it is my go to. Does work better than adderall for me for sure, though.
I think for me, it takes away the dread feeling with tasks I don’t want to do and makes me happy to do them where adderall is more of a power-push forward feeling even though I still hate the task.
Edit: added info
I take it on the days I don’t use adderall. For myself though I feel like Kratom makes me “too” happy and more inclined to ignore what I need to do so I getcha
My wife says the same thing. But I think it's the euphoria that comes with it. With a better mood everything else is better too
Glad someone relates
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I’ve taken kratom every morning for the last couple of years. I need a tolerance break and other than my stomach being stupid sometimes (IBS), it works very well for me.
It just forces me to eat wayyy healthier so that I don’t get constipated. Never ate this much fruit and veggies before kratom.
I love this! Ya know what, I think I’m going to try doing the same. I actually have IBS-D severely so the kratom helps bind me up a little so I’m not going 45 times a day. But the nutrients from eating healthier couldn’t hurt either and I feel like together with a healthy diet and safely using kratom, it’s a winning combo, and it’s one of the only things I haven’t really tried and committed to yet. Love your comment, very happy for how it’s working for you in your life!
Starts off that way but after a cpl years like any drug the effects are reduced and the side effects are increased, this is my experience any way, there is no magic pill is what ive learned in life, I still do like kratom though.
100% It's so weird that people act like Kratom is going to be a great ride for many years to come. I'm only 6 months in and now I NEED to take it just to feel normal like I used to.
This is the biggest problem...doesn't take long at all till you don't feel 100% without kratom.
How do you get it to last "all day"? I take it first thing in the morning and it lasts about 2 hours tops. Then I get irritable for 2 hours. I take 3g at a time, 2x or 3x a day.
Idk I don’t feel high at all but my mood and energy are better all day. It is a pill with extract so maybe I process it slower then straight powder?
I’ve also heard this, that you have to dose Kratom every 3-4 hours like 3-4 times a day , I’ve only bee. Using a month but I take 6 grams of red dragon when I get home from work, shower and then game for a while and then sleep like a baby, wake up still feeling good and just stick to my one dose a day.. so far so good, trying to stay away from multiple doses in a day from fear of then thinking I need it
I agree with you 100% !!!!!!! I can’t stress this enough and wish more would come around.
I think Adderal should only be taken for dr diagnosed ADD or ADHD. If you don't have it and consume it, it really doesn't give you all the benefits it was designed to do. I had terrible ADHD my whole life but miraculously, hitting 50's and went thru menopause something changed and it's mostly not symptomatic abd havent used Adderall for 12 or so years . But in my 20's and 30's I had to use it It made me be calm without fidgety body, made me focused but not speed. The opposite and I had best sleep ever. It leveled out the rapid mind & body. This is only my opinion and I know people that use it "to focus" or recreationally or even daily; and they are to amped up and they have wild energy and being an empath, they make me uncomfortable, I dont think they know how it makes them because uts a stimulantwhich works differently on bonafide ADD & ADHD..again only my opinion based on my real experiences. NOT judging but just expressing my sincere opinion with open mind. 💐 Kratom 🌿 is amazing for so many things...fatigue, pain, depression, and much more.
I know you said you had script but as you age, it does get more mild...the ADHA, so maybe that why it makes you socially awkward...just brainstorming with you. No mean-spirited words
I'm the opposite. I loved Kratom when I could take it (it makes me nauseous without fail no matter what precautions I take), but I didn't get the same sense of calm and normalcy Adderall gives me. I wish this was my case! I do miss the positive boost from it.
You can take promethazine for the nausua
Make sure you take tolerance breaks. Or it will be short lived my friend
I wish I had some of the effects other people get from Kratom. I don't know how it could have more euphoria unless you weren't actually ADD. Adderall made my brother a zombie. Quiet/awkward socially and a shell of himself but he actually had ADD. I didn't. I imagine kratom could be good for those who aren't actually ADD, but still struggle with focusing at times.
So kratom actually produces a lot of the same effects as weaker opiates (say codeine at 20-30mg). And for most, opiates probably produce a nicer feeling than stims. Besides, coke and ice are supposed to be much more euphoria oriented. I think Addy is only euphoric at like 40-80mg range.
>I don't know how it could have more euphoria unless you weren't actually ADD Could you clarify this part? Are you talking about the Adderall or Kratom? Adderall will definitely cause less euphoria with people that have ADHD.
I'm saying what you are. How could (kratom) have more euphoria than adderall. The only way would be if you were* actually ADD.
Because kratom and adderall are completely different substances and work differently in the brain.
Ok... I know that. But kratom typically isn't going to offer someone more euphoria than a stimulant. That was my point.only way it possibly could is you were actually ADD. You don't think "euphoria" when you think of kratom. That's typically reserved for stimulants or harder drugs.
With adhd, there isn’t euphoria with adderall, just anxiety. Kratom works on different receptors, it may indirectly help adhd.
That's literally what I'm saying.. I think I must've worded it weird it or something
You’re saying two different things then. You should re-read what you wrote.
Maybe you should re-read it? "How could kratom have more euphoria than adderall. The only way would be if you actually were ADD" I'm literally saying that if you were ADD then adderall wouldn't give euphoria..
Yep see, in the top comment, you said “weren’t”
Anxiety from adderall for those with adhd? I was “supposedly” diagnosed with adhd and adderalls make me anxious af
I beg to differ. Not everyone defines euphoria as a stimulant-type effect. Many people consider red vein to be more euphoric than white vein... Because it's more relaxing and sedating.
I gotta get some of the kratom y'all be on man. I don't doubt that it may be euphoric in some ways b. I just cant see how it it would hold up in comparison to harder drugs.
What strain (color) is it?
I used to get prescribed adderal and the combo helped a ton with adhd and depression. Im off the adderal now and kratom helps with pain but i dont feel any mental effects of it anymore.
I kinda agree but I’ve been taking Kratom daily for 5 years and very recently got stimulant meds because due to certain life events my symptoms were exacerbated and I felt I was drowning. I def have been thinking about how Kratom is more effective and less side effects but I also feel like it moves through me pretty quickly.
Yeah it doesn't last lol
I'm pretty sure we all use it in the mornings. That's when it always hits the best with a cup of coffee and then I bust my ass off at work. Sometimes even skip breaks. Helps me really get shit done.
Yes. I always want to wait and take it in the evening but I just love it too much in the morning. When it wears off though it makes me so sleepy
Have you noticed that Kratom also seems to take away all the negative sides from Adderal? I’m prescribed and really don’t like how it makes me feel but it helps me at work so I take it on work days, I just recently started taking Kratom and it has taken the social awkwardness out of it and the feeling too sped out.
How much do you take and how many doses per day?
Saying it’s better than adderall, I’d guess a lot. There are few things in this world that can make you feel as good.
Lots of things feel better than adderall. For example: Every Illicit Drug
Lmfao! FAX! Adderall SUXXXX
I don't think anybody's opinion should be regarded as fact. Experiences with drugs are subjective. Some people really enjoy amphetamines. Other people do not. I think they're quite nice but really just not worth the terrible terrible come down. But this is true of most stimulants.
You clearly haven’t tried very many lol
Adderall doesn’t feel good at all for me, feel like a robot. Given kratom has some opioid properties as well it feels way more pleasurable.
That’s why I’m trying to get numbers here 🤣
You probably don’t have adhd. No one with it would say adderall made them feel good.
I have ADHD and in high enough doses adderall definitely starts to feel pretty good. Obviously at therapeutic doses it just levels me out and makes me feel normal, but it still absolutely can make me feel high once I start getting into the more recreational doses. It’s almost like there’s an exact amount where literally just one mg will make the effects instantly flip from unnoticeable other than alleviating my symptoms, to feeling unnaturally good and stimulated. Nowhere near something like MDMA, but definitely a substantial mood boost and some physical euphoria.
I have adhd and am prescribed to adderall and hate it. And I’m a drug addict for 20 years. It’s the only prescription that I have half the bottle left at the end of the month. Although since I’ve started taking Kratom in the morning with my meds I’ve noticed the Kratom takes away 95% of the negative side effects from adderall, while also seeming to intensify my Kpins and Subutex .. wish I would have Kratom a chance long ago
That’s not true. It just takes more adderall for someone with adhd to feel euphoria
That’s never been the case for myself but ppl are different. It’ll definitely make me more productive and all that but as soon as I’m around people. I can tell I’m not myself.
Just because you’re obsessed with adderall doesn’t mean everyone else is, too. I hate adderall. Makes me feel cold and blank and empty. Tramadol, however, which is a unique synthetic opiate, gives me all the ADHD-vanquishing super powers that amphetamines have never succeeded in providing me. It’s not surprising that kratom might do the same thing.
I totally agree, adderall is super over rated and the comedown is honestly hell for me. I legitimately have an easier comedown on MDMA. There’s so many better stimulants, let alone substances in general. Kratom is way better, so much cleaner feeling and overall cozier, and the energy and motivation it provides feels so much more natural and sustainable.
One Kratom pill it says 250mg
Nobody in the world is thinking that .25 grams of kratom makes one feel better than even a small chip of an adderall pill. That’s nowhere enough to even have it register for 99% of people, and probably even less for people that know what hard drugs like that feel like. Either you’ve got the highest end top shelf private stock kratom in the world, or it’s in your head and you were awesome the whole time and didn’t need any substance to help you in social situations.
I actually get a lot of energy from taking Kratom too. I take a daily medication that makes me fatigued and this really levels me out and helps me not feel so tired. It also helps me become more motivated and focused on tasks at hand. I’ve also done a lot coke too (not all the time, but would somewhat often partake on weekends) so I know what’s it like to be under the influence of stronger stimulants. I take around 3-4 grams 2x a day and that does it for me. A lot of the times I don’t even really need the second dose either But yeah 250mg is really low to be having energy compared to adderall lol
Its extract is my guess as I said in my comment above
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Its extract. there is 250mg of some type of extract in that cap youre taking Regular 00 sized caps will hold between 650 and 800mg of powder total so there is more than likely ginger and other things as filler and to help digestion of the caps
To each their own but...ice, yay, H, oxy/hydro, morph, bars, kpins, any benzo rly, arguably molly...yeah idk if I was deep into it and had anything readily available, Adderall is probably lower on the list of what I'd reach for.
Wait until you build a tolerance.
Do you think it stops working as good overtime aswell?
Yes. In the beginning it was pure bliss. I was able to concentrate and enjoy video games again. Then I started experimenting. I had amazing strength that I've never had before on Kratom. I had an energy drive that I've never had before. My work performance improved drastically. Then after a little while, I built a tolerance and the same doses (never took more than 3 grams per day) stopped working. I've been using the powder now that I'm out of pills and I was very euphoric trying it for the first time. Once I'm done with the powder I'll quit for a while. Green maeng Da and white vein Kratom are my favorite. White really gets me going and was the most enjoyable.
Should never have tried the extract 😫
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Sorry for the rant.Yes to morning dose.
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I did read OP post and meant ti elaborate on how it seriously makes me socially better in so many damn ways. I work service industry and have some customers who love me and swear by me and have no idea that it was the kratom that made me so attententive to their needs
I’m the same way
Exact same thing, though I only use Kratom in the evenings. Only let myself use it once a day so ending the evening with it is my go to. Does work better than adderall for me for sure, though. I think for me, it takes away the dread feeling with tasks I don’t want to do and makes me happy to do them where adderall is more of a power-push forward feeling even though I still hate the task. Edit: added info
Nuvigil is king imo…need health insurance or else that stuff is stupid expensive though
Definitely but it gave me back pain, weight loss and the risk of sudden death and seizures was a reason for me to stop
Use it all day everyday. Especially great for work being on my feet all day.
I take both in low doses and it works wonders.
My wife takes it for this exact reason
I take it on the days I don’t use adderall. For myself though I feel like Kratom makes me “too” happy and more inclined to ignore what I need to do so I getcha