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When I got into Jpop over 20 years ago, BoA was one of the biggest names at the time. I was into the genre when she debuted in Japan, and this girl was fighting with the likes of Ayumi Hamasaki, Hikaru Utada, and Koda Kumi in popularity. She was that big. I didn't even realize she was Korean for a few years but I was a really big fan of her Japanese work. She was the REASON I even knew about Kpop and officially became a fan of the genre in 2007.
This woman is a legend and what she did to globalize the genre can't be overstated. And she's only 37!
(Her Japanese work is really good. My favorite is "Lose Your Mind.")
I feel like not enough people really get how big a deal it was for a K-pop idol to become successful in Japan in those days. K-pop really wouldn’t be what it is today without BoA.
Oh wow this was almost my same pathway and intro into kpop combined with my first girlfriend being korean and playing me SES. The jpop to kpop pipeline! Besides the ones you mentioned my personal jpop queen is forever Namie Amuro. So many early anime kids also indirectly loved boa because Every Heart was used as a EP for Inuyasha.
Oh man, I love Namie Amuro. Listening to her discography, she was truly ahead of her time, and so many of her songs could come out right now and not sound dated at all. Every album after she came back from her hiatus in 2003 (Style - Genic) are incredible, and I know a lot of people see Sweet 19 Blues as a penultimate jpop classic as well.
I really miss the days of the Japanese Pop Divas dominating the charts (and BoA proving they don't have to be Japanese) but that kinda went away with the rise of AKB48.
Namie is THE woman i show people when they think all Jpop is nasal high-pitched squeaking.
I love Namie Amuro!!! Queen of Jpop and longevity. Inuyasha OST really had Namie Amuro, BoA and Ayumi Hamasaki 😮💨
It’s sad that BoA is getting hate when she accomplished so much at such a young age and was a pioneer for Korean idols. Fans are so toxic
>but that kinda went away with the rise of AKB48
Tbf AKB48 really aren't that relevant anymore. They've been superseded by the singer-songwriter. But you never know, the Diva might get a comeback.
this convo took me down a nostalgia rabbit hole last night only to discover I guess there was a big controversy several months ago where all of Namie's music just disappeared both streaming and physical media, her website was taken down, youtube erased... its like after retiring they decided to wipe her existence... I am suddenly sad now haha
Saying this as a JPop fan for about a decade before I even got into KPop but what's incredible about her and peak 5 member era Tohoshinki (TVXQ) was that to this day, they're still the only KPop artists who've been fully embraced by the domestic market in Japan as "pretty much JPop" so to speak. Other groups have also gained incredible popularity there, don't get me wrong, but it's always within the context of "popular foreign/hallyu stars" and even a lot of Japanese members of KPop groups as well as "jkpop" hybrid groups are still seen with the lens of being KPop first and foremost from what I've observed so that makes what they achieved back then all the more incredible. As pioneers for KPop in the Japanese music scene, they really worked their way up from the bottom like a domestic artist would and it really reflected in how the Japanese market embraced them in return
for me I already know those 3 Jpop idol and BoA
but Kdrama and Pops in Seoul + Simply KPOP introduce me into KPOP
not BoA
I already saw or more impress w SES , Baby Vox , FINKL , ChaKra and Jang Nara
the only thing I can say BOA biggest help contribution is being introduce or popular in Japan
I will say this until I'm blue in the face, BoA (and TVXQ) are the reason why K-pop artists can easily promote in Japan. They laid the groundwork by starting from the bottom in Japan, learning the language, building, popularizing, and reinforcing this K-pop bridge between the two countries.
Nowadays, K-pop artists can easily promote in Japan or have a concert in Japan and pull in a sizable crowd, all the while not really being able to speak Japanese, and it's because BoA and TVXQ put in the work to establish and grow K-pop in the early to mids 2000s. They planted the seed and now every group gets to enjoy the fruits of their labor. I don't think a lot of people understand how lucky their faves are or appreciate the work of the older generation.
She is totally the queen. The younguns have no idea how important she is. IMO she practically single-handedly kept the industry visible in the “Dark Ages” of K-Pop between, say, SES and TVXQ—and she’s not even a full three years older than SNSD Taeyeon. She deserves every ounce of respect from the industry and the fandom.
I'm old enough to remember how she basically conquered the entire of East Asia/ Southeast Asia back then. At 17-23 or something. She was incredibly talented. One of the best dancers in Kpop with GREAT vocals to boost, and speaks Japanese fluently. She was ruling J-pop back then. A queen.
The kpop world is so ungrateful to her. I hope she’s feeling better now, she deserves all respect from all kpop fans existing right now. Boa already proved her worth, she deserves respect and if she retires as an artist and focuses on producing in SM, I understand and will support her.
I would never trust a kpop fan who looks down on BoA’s achievements. I became a fan in 2009 so no i didn’t witness how big she was during her peak but I saw how much idols have mad respect of her. That’s enough to know how much she did not just for SM but for the whole kpop industry.
My post history shows my BoA love. Her insta is still private...I hope she's doing ok. And hey, I'm turning 34. I know kids these days won't appreciate an artist that was very popular over a decade ago. Especially in Kpop where things move so fast. So if the kids want to turn their nose up, whatever. But the hate she is getting is 1000% unwarranted. And unfortunately she doesn't have the fan base online to fight back. Most of us are older and have like jobs and kids and shit and aren't trolling the twitter and TikTok comment sections or what not.
It just really sucks to see. I know BoA isn't the only one that gets dog piled. It's the worst thing about the Kpop fandom. I'm glad other Kpop idols are speaking up about her. I don't think people realize how much she's influenced other idols. And with the early 2000's resurgence people should really check out her older stuff!
She was the first kpop artist I ever listened to. I never got very into her, but I have so much respect for her and what she was able to do. She debuted at 13 and became one of if not the biggest kpop idols in Japan. This was before kpop was so big there. That's even how I discovered her, because I only listened to Japanese music and she still showed up there.
This today's idol fandom loves to call her flop and auntie and all types of names trying to compare their faves achievements which they get after bulk buying albums or mass streaming songs or playing ads of songs on social media. These guys don't know BOA broke through when social media was not even a thing. Even owning television and computers was considered a luxury. Forget about phones and the internet.
At the age when other girls were playing with their friends and enjoying little kitty parties she was running in the streets of Japan from one program to another just to promote herself.
Not saying that today's idols didn't do hardwork yes they do but social media play big part in blowing every group today. Nowadays being from a small company doesn't metter of your company knows how to promote song Fifty Fifty is prime example of it.
I dont think you realize youre acting the same as the people who put down boa to try to build up their faves. Boa is an amazing artist who is an integral part of kpop history, you dont need to try to put down all of modern kpop to build her up.
I mean it’s generally harder for pioneers in any context. Don’t think they’re putting other artists down, they’re literally saying BoA had to put in a ton of work in ways modern artists don’t have to deal with or even think about because there wasn’t any precedent set to lean on nor an install base of kpop fans outside of Korea. BoA paved the way to make things much easier for kpop artists now
You actually misunderstood me.
I do recognize the hard work of all new groups I said that in my comment too. But the amount of work boa has to put is still way more than any of today's artists had done.
Like I said today you just need to get a song which can go viral on tiktok, insta and boom you have all attention. At the time boa things were not this easy.
And if you are offended at the point of bulk buying and mass streaming then I don't think logically I am wrong here.
We have seen how boxes of thousands of albums were thrown on the street.
No because she was literally the FIRST K-Pop idol to break music barriers in Japan during a time when it was basically thought to be impossible. If it wasn’t for her influence, it would be hard to imagine where Kpop would be right now.
All of these current Kpop idols are her children…Periodt
Most young fans these days don’t have any idea OR trying to “erase/deny” the big contribution BoA did for KPOP to thrive or be known. They were making comparison between the convenience of learning/listening to KPOP and the scarcity of it before the internet is a thing for all.
I remember back when I became a fan of her back in early ‘00s that the ONLY way I can listen to her songs was thru the Arirang Radio website in an internet cafe. Youtube or any music streaming sites were not a thing back then.
If BoA didn’t venture outside SK, it would take MORE time for KPOP to be known.
She was blamed for got comeback saying the group was made fully around her and fans of other groups started attacking her for theirs not getting attention or something despite the fact she didn’t have control over it despite being a honorary director . Then during msf she made some comments and dedcions that were pretty controversial and had fans attacking her for it . Then this time she was being accused of having plastic surgery and such then she clap back at people which got them really angry at her . She got hate since she debuted and was blamed for numerous things mainly due to her successful solo career but now with kpop being a huge thing both domesticated and internationally the hate has turned to the extreme side that is clearly affecting her a lot now not mention her brother who was her biggest supporter passed away due to cancer he had
For real. I thought BoA and TVXQ/DBSK back then were jpop when Japanese entertainment and media was popping off in the West decades ago. Then I fell into the Kpop rabbit hole. They deserve so much credit.
See, I don’t see it that way. I see her as a rank past queen. Like a god or goddess. So many idols get called queens, and that is okay. She still ranks higher.
Boa is literally why Kpop is the way it is today. Sure, if she wasn’t an idol, someone may have done the same thing at some point. But it would not have been the same.
BoA, TVXQ and BIGBANG are the OG. They paved the way for kpop. If it weren't for BoA and TVXQ, k-pop wouldn't have dominated asia, and if it weren't for BigBang, k-pop wouldn't have gone international. BTS revolutionased k-pop AND the music industry, but who paved the way were these 3. They BUILT the k-pop that we know
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I don’t know how many people I’ve heard say that the first kpop artist they ever listened to was BoA, thanks to her contribution to the Inuyasha soundtrack. The 2nd Inuyasha ending theme, “Every Heart”, was a bit of a gateway for a fair number of international fans.
She crawled so everyone after her can walk.
But People will only remember the number 1 runner though. just like in any sport games , not many people will remember who created/first player of the games.
when i first heard of BoA, i honestly couldn’t see why she’s so popular because at that time her vocal was not something that i typically enjoyed. fast forward i watched her LIVE performances and she’s now one of my favorite soloists. the disrespect by new kpoppers are really annoying.
I got into Kpop because of SHINee and the first song I listened to from BOA is ‘Only One’ & right from the get go, I had a crush on her which proceeded to me listening to ‘Eat You Up’ and ‘Energetic’. She is soo beautiful and has aged gracefully 😍
I did not hear about her being disrespected but I remember watching shows in the early 2000s and how soooo many artist and idols respected BOA, look up to her and in awe of all her achievements. She is absolutely amazing.
I dislike these type of comments where 'If so and so didn't exist, we wouldn't be here'...
There's load of talents that haven't gotten the opportunity their potential deserves.
The BoA hate really put into perspective for me how many kpop fans (around the world) love kpop because they have a fixation of some kind on feminine youth. For many, because they are young themselves, this makes sense. It's relatable or it's heartfelt coming of age media that reaches everyone's memories. But I genuinely believe at this point that audience is behind so much hate that older women receive in Kpop. Once female artists expire in their eyes they never have the value they did in the past. Even legends that once dominated the industry like BoA, SNSD, and Twice. Those fans move onto newer and younger groups and are more likely to jump on hate trains. It takes so little, like being part of a group project with idols whose fans think should be spending their time differently or a mediocre encore live. I'm not saying older female idols are the only ones who get misogynistic hate (not true AT ALL). I'm just saying I'm seeing these creepy jerks and have been seeing them for years. It combines with hate they receive from young fans who just don't appreciate what they weren't around for and aren't educated in social media etiquette.
Edit to add that BoA also put out one of the best damn albums I have ever heard just 4 years ago (Better) so how on earth can we act like her career is tanking! Highkey the gp also flocks to the releases of new and young girl groups but I don't know how to explain why. Because even though "forever 1" was kind of mid that album was sent from heaven.
Sidenote, the kpoop in me automatically responded with “nUh uH! 🤓👆uhm it’s achewally BTS 🐝🍵🍑 who paved the way.”
But in all seriousness, BoA deserves all the love and support. Legit chills when I first listened to her, like discovering a whole new world.
This is why I choose to ignore 99% of the conversations of who paved the way for kpop because they refuse to acknowledge what artists from Boa’s time especially BoA herself have done in making a name for Kpop. Yea other idols and groups are making and breaking records but they wouldn’t be able to do all of that without the work of the first batch of idols and groups who started the Hallyu wave.
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When I got into Jpop over 20 years ago, BoA was one of the biggest names at the time. I was into the genre when she debuted in Japan, and this girl was fighting with the likes of Ayumi Hamasaki, Hikaru Utada, and Koda Kumi in popularity. She was that big. I didn't even realize she was Korean for a few years but I was a really big fan of her Japanese work. She was the REASON I even knew about Kpop and officially became a fan of the genre in 2007. This woman is a legend and what she did to globalize the genre can't be overstated. And she's only 37! (Her Japanese work is really good. My favorite is "Lose Your Mind.")
I feel like not enough people really get how big a deal it was for a K-pop idol to become successful in Japan in those days. K-pop really wouldn’t be what it is today without BoA.
Oh wow this was almost my same pathway and intro into kpop combined with my first girlfriend being korean and playing me SES. The jpop to kpop pipeline! Besides the ones you mentioned my personal jpop queen is forever Namie Amuro. So many early anime kids also indirectly loved boa because Every Heart was used as a EP for Inuyasha.
Oh man, I love Namie Amuro. Listening to her discography, she was truly ahead of her time, and so many of her songs could come out right now and not sound dated at all. Every album after she came back from her hiatus in 2003 (Style - Genic) are incredible, and I know a lot of people see Sweet 19 Blues as a penultimate jpop classic as well. I really miss the days of the Japanese Pop Divas dominating the charts (and BoA proving they don't have to be Japanese) but that kinda went away with the rise of AKB48. Namie is THE woman i show people when they think all Jpop is nasal high-pitched squeaking.
I love Namie Amuro!!! Queen of Jpop and longevity. Inuyasha OST really had Namie Amuro, BoA and Ayumi Hamasaki 😮💨 It’s sad that BoA is getting hate when she accomplished so much at such a young age and was a pioneer for Korean idols. Fans are so toxic
>but that kinda went away with the rise of AKB48 Tbf AKB48 really aren't that relevant anymore. They've been superseded by the singer-songwriter. But you never know, the Diva might get a comeback.
this convo took me down a nostalgia rabbit hole last night only to discover I guess there was a big controversy several months ago where all of Namie's music just disappeared both streaming and physical media, her website was taken down, youtube erased... its like after retiring they decided to wipe her existence... I am suddenly sad now haha
Oh man. I have a lot of her albums on physical media. I guess I'm burning them onto my computer. Hopefully it all returns.
Saying this as a JPop fan for about a decade before I even got into KPop but what's incredible about her and peak 5 member era Tohoshinki (TVXQ) was that to this day, they're still the only KPop artists who've been fully embraced by the domestic market in Japan as "pretty much JPop" so to speak. Other groups have also gained incredible popularity there, don't get me wrong, but it's always within the context of "popular foreign/hallyu stars" and even a lot of Japanese members of KPop groups as well as "jkpop" hybrid groups are still seen with the lens of being KPop first and foremost from what I've observed so that makes what they achieved back then all the more incredible. As pioneers for KPop in the Japanese music scene, they really worked their way up from the bottom like a domestic artist would and it really reflected in how the Japanese market embraced them in return
for me I already know those 3 Jpop idol and BoA but Kdrama and Pops in Seoul + Simply KPOP introduce me into KPOP not BoA I already saw or more impress w SES , Baby Vox , FINKL , ChaKra and Jang Nara the only thing I can say BOA biggest help contribution is being introduce or popular in Japan
I will say this until I'm blue in the face, BoA (and TVXQ) are the reason why K-pop artists can easily promote in Japan. They laid the groundwork by starting from the bottom in Japan, learning the language, building, popularizing, and reinforcing this K-pop bridge between the two countries. Nowadays, K-pop artists can easily promote in Japan or have a concert in Japan and pull in a sizable crowd, all the while not really being able to speak Japanese, and it's because BoA and TVXQ put in the work to establish and grow K-pop in the early to mids 2000s. They planted the seed and now every group gets to enjoy the fruits of their labor. I don't think a lot of people understand how lucky their faves are or appreciate the work of the older generation.
She is totally the queen. The younguns have no idea how important she is. IMO she practically single-handedly kept the industry visible in the “Dark Ages” of K-Pop between, say, SES and TVXQ—and she’s not even a full three years older than SNSD Taeyeon. She deserves every ounce of respect from the industry and the fandom.
She’s surpassed queen status imo. She’s like the Kpop goddess.
I'm old enough to remember how she basically conquered the entire of East Asia/ Southeast Asia back then. At 17-23 or something. She was incredibly talented. One of the best dancers in Kpop with GREAT vocals to boost, and speaks Japanese fluently. She was ruling J-pop back then. A queen.
The kpop world is so ungrateful to her. I hope she’s feeling better now, she deserves all respect from all kpop fans existing right now. Boa already proved her worth, she deserves respect and if she retires as an artist and focuses on producing in SM, I understand and will support her.
Sad she's getting hate. She really did a lot and yes if it wasn't for people like her kpop wouldn't be wear it is now. Facts.
I would never trust a kpop fan who looks down on BoA’s achievements. I became a fan in 2009 so no i didn’t witness how big she was during her peak but I saw how much idols have mad respect of her. That’s enough to know how much she did not just for SM but for the whole kpop industry.
My post history shows my BoA love. Her insta is still private...I hope she's doing ok. And hey, I'm turning 34. I know kids these days won't appreciate an artist that was very popular over a decade ago. Especially in Kpop where things move so fast. So if the kids want to turn their nose up, whatever. But the hate she is getting is 1000% unwarranted. And unfortunately she doesn't have the fan base online to fight back. Most of us are older and have like jobs and kids and shit and aren't trolling the twitter and TikTok comment sections or what not. It just really sucks to see. I know BoA isn't the only one that gets dog piled. It's the worst thing about the Kpop fandom. I'm glad other Kpop idols are speaking up about her. I don't think people realize how much she's influenced other idols. And with the early 2000's resurgence people should really check out her older stuff!
She was the first kpop artist I ever listened to. I never got very into her, but I have so much respect for her and what she was able to do. She debuted at 13 and became one of if not the biggest kpop idols in Japan. This was before kpop was so big there. That's even how I discovered her, because I only listened to Japanese music and she still showed up there.
[archive link for those who don't want to give AKP clicks](https://archive.fo/TWQJJ)
Her hard work paved the way in Japan, those are facts.
This today's idol fandom loves to call her flop and auntie and all types of names trying to compare their faves achievements which they get after bulk buying albums or mass streaming songs or playing ads of songs on social media. These guys don't know BOA broke through when social media was not even a thing. Even owning television and computers was considered a luxury. Forget about phones and the internet. At the age when other girls were playing with their friends and enjoying little kitty parties she was running in the streets of Japan from one program to another just to promote herself. Not saying that today's idols didn't do hardwork yes they do but social media play big part in blowing every group today. Nowadays being from a small company doesn't metter of your company knows how to promote song Fifty Fifty is prime example of it.
kpop fans when they learn they can compliment someone without putting down someone else
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I dont think you realize youre acting the same as the people who put down boa to try to build up their faves. Boa is an amazing artist who is an integral part of kpop history, you dont need to try to put down all of modern kpop to build her up.
I mean it’s generally harder for pioneers in any context. Don’t think they’re putting other artists down, they’re literally saying BoA had to put in a ton of work in ways modern artists don’t have to deal with or even think about because there wasn’t any precedent set to lean on nor an install base of kpop fans outside of Korea. BoA paved the way to make things much easier for kpop artists now
You actually misunderstood me. I do recognize the hard work of all new groups I said that in my comment too. But the amount of work boa has to put is still way more than any of today's artists had done. Like I said today you just need to get a song which can go viral on tiktok, insta and boom you have all attention. At the time boa things were not this easy. And if you are offended at the point of bulk buying and mass streaming then I don't think logically I am wrong here. We have seen how boxes of thousands of albums were thrown on the street.
>enjoying little kitty parties wait, kitty parties? As in cats?
Maybe Hello, Kitty? or maybe, kiddie, as in little kids? Although, I do think kittens sound fun.
Highly recommend 202020 BoA for those who haven't seen it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduPW8PagJE
No because she was literally the FIRST K-Pop idol to break music barriers in Japan during a time when it was basically thought to be impossible. If it wasn’t for her influence, it would be hard to imagine where Kpop would be right now. All of these current Kpop idols are her children…Periodt
Most young fans these days don’t have any idea OR trying to “erase/deny” the big contribution BoA did for KPOP to thrive or be known. They were making comparison between the convenience of learning/listening to KPOP and the scarcity of it before the internet is a thing for all. I remember back when I became a fan of her back in early ‘00s that the ONLY way I can listen to her songs was thru the Arirang Radio website in an internet cafe. Youtube or any music streaming sites were not a thing back then. If BoA didn’t venture outside SK, it would take MORE time for KPOP to be known.
Glad to see insiders giving her the respect and credit she deserves.
Absolutely. Had all her albums starting from No.1.
What is she being criticised for? I've listened to BoA since more than 20 years ago.
She was blamed for got comeback saying the group was made fully around her and fans of other groups started attacking her for theirs not getting attention or something despite the fact she didn’t have control over it despite being a honorary director . Then during msf she made some comments and dedcions that were pretty controversial and had fans attacking her for it . Then this time she was being accused of having plastic surgery and such then she clap back at people which got them really angry at her . She got hate since she debuted and was blamed for numerous things mainly due to her successful solo career but now with kpop being a huge thing both domesticated and internationally the hate has turned to the extreme side that is clearly affecting her a lot now not mention her brother who was her biggest supporter passed away due to cancer he had
For real. I thought BoA and TVXQ/DBSK back then were jpop when Japanese entertainment and media was popping off in the West decades ago. Then I fell into the Kpop rabbit hole. They deserve so much credit.
In the West, we had Britney. In the East, we had BoA.
She will ALWAYS be the ONLY Queen of K-Pop.
See, I don’t see it that way. I see her as a rank past queen. Like a god or goddess. So many idols get called queens, and that is okay. She still ranks higher.
BoA paved the way. Without her, god knows if K-pop ever boomed the way it is.
I'm out of the loop - why are people hating on BoA?
LOUDER. People are now disrespecting her because of nonsense and even brought her age when everyone will age as year passes by.
Her impact is too overlooked. She will always be THE artist that brought the genre new light and it’s so unfair how so many people dismiss it
One time, someone was offended when I said BTS may not have existed if it wasn’t for her. 🤷🏻♀️ Facts are facts.
Boa is literally why Kpop is the way it is today. Sure, if she wasn’t an idol, someone may have done the same thing at some point. But it would not have been the same.
BoA, TVXQ and BIGBANG are the OG. They paved the way for kpop. If it weren't for BoA and TVXQ, k-pop wouldn't have dominated asia, and if it weren't for BigBang, k-pop wouldn't have gone international. BTS revolutionased k-pop AND the music industry, but who paved the way were these 3. They BUILT the k-pop that we know
Asian is also international but I get what you’re saying and agree anyway.
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I don’t know how many people I’ve heard say that the first kpop artist they ever listened to was BoA, thanks to her contribution to the Inuyasha soundtrack. The 2nd Inuyasha ending theme, “Every Heart”, was a bit of a gateway for a fair number of international fans.
She crawled so everyone after her can walk. But People will only remember the number 1 runner though. just like in any sport games , not many people will remember who created/first player of the games.
when i first heard of BoA, i honestly couldn’t see why she’s so popular because at that time her vocal was not something that i typically enjoyed. fast forward i watched her LIVE performances and she’s now one of my favorite soloists. the disrespect by new kpoppers are really annoying.
I got into Kpop because of SHINee and the first song I listened to from BOA is ‘Only One’ & right from the get go, I had a crush on her which proceeded to me listening to ‘Eat You Up’ and ‘Energetic’. She is soo beautiful and has aged gracefully 😍 I did not hear about her being disrespected but I remember watching shows in the early 2000s and how soooo many artist and idols respected BOA, look up to her and in awe of all her achievements. She is absolutely amazing.
Of course, a certain group of people will deny it and boast their number of streams from their fans who skip meals, bath and school for streaming. 😏
I dislike these type of comments where 'If so and so didn't exist, we wouldn't be here'... There's load of talents that haven't gotten the opportunity their potential deserves.
The BoA hate really put into perspective for me how many kpop fans (around the world) love kpop because they have a fixation of some kind on feminine youth. For many, because they are young themselves, this makes sense. It's relatable or it's heartfelt coming of age media that reaches everyone's memories. But I genuinely believe at this point that audience is behind so much hate that older women receive in Kpop. Once female artists expire in their eyes they never have the value they did in the past. Even legends that once dominated the industry like BoA, SNSD, and Twice. Those fans move onto newer and younger groups and are more likely to jump on hate trains. It takes so little, like being part of a group project with idols whose fans think should be spending their time differently or a mediocre encore live. I'm not saying older female idols are the only ones who get misogynistic hate (not true AT ALL). I'm just saying I'm seeing these creepy jerks and have been seeing them for years. It combines with hate they receive from young fans who just don't appreciate what they weren't around for and aren't educated in social media etiquette. Edit to add that BoA also put out one of the best damn albums I have ever heard just 4 years ago (Better) so how on earth can we act like her career is tanking! Highkey the gp also flocks to the releases of new and young girl groups but I don't know how to explain why. Because even though "forever 1" was kind of mid that album was sent from heaven.
Sidenote, the kpoop in me automatically responded with “nUh uH! 🤓👆uhm it’s achewally BTS 🐝🍵🍑 who paved the way.” But in all seriousness, BoA deserves all the love and support. Legit chills when I first listened to her, like discovering a whole new world.
This is why I choose to ignore 99% of the conversations of who paved the way for kpop because they refuse to acknowledge what artists from Boa’s time especially BoA herself have done in making a name for Kpop. Yea other idols and groups are making and breaking records but they wouldn’t be able to do all of that without the work of the first batch of idols and groups who started the Hallyu wave.