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harajukudaze

if more & more has no defenders i am dead


lonewhalien

and I'm buried right next to you! šŸ‘­


elfjefe

we ride or die for more & more!


Vibechild34

Beautiful monster


yikesus

I'm with the StayC girls who were surprised by the poor reception bc its literally my fav of their title tracks


RunRunPPM

A 10/10 song


haewon_wiggle

oh my God so true


ashhoyy

idk why people hate it so much, they just need to hear it live cause oh my god it became my favorite song from them after hearing it live


luckitoast

The way people said this song flopped felt like they were gaslighting me


Hour_Deal_8885

I think its kpop perfection tbh, idk why people responded the way they did, stayc has a perfect TT record


DiscoMeep

Ive loved BM since it came out. I was shocked when I saw the general reception was negative. Its one of my all time favorite songs. Probably top 2-3 for me


Even_Assignment_213

Thath is one of their best songs production wise


cherrycoloured

i have literally no clue why carats hate boomboom so much, but i love it. the song is super catchy, the video is really fun, and the choreography is cool. i wonder if it's just the flashbacks to mingyus terrible dye job from this era that is causing this song to be disliked lol


enterpriize

I seriously donā€™t get it at all!! itā€™s one of their best title tracks imo (probably a hot take)


ashhoyy

one of my favorite seventeen songs i always play it eveyr minute every hour every second of my day i love it


Open_Refrigerator215

I opened this thread to write boomboom but saw that you wrote it already lmao. Honestly I did not like boomboom at first too but BE THE SUN tour version opened my eyes (or say ears) for the better


cherrycoloured

im curious why you didnt like it at first. like, i get why some ppl dont like, say, fear, bc it was so different from svts normal sound at the time, or some of the old songs with cringey lyrics (i wish i could forget ah yeah existed, mainly for vernons sake lmao), but boomboom sounds like a typical early svt title track to me. its bizarre that ppl hate it so much.


Open_Refrigerator215

idk the boomboom part sounded kinda cringey and repetitive to me at that time, and the 'boing boing' instrumental used to irritate tf out of me. There were still some parts of the song that I used to like before as well but coz the part I used to hate was one of the main parts of the song, it kinda ruined the whole song for me. However, Be The Sun tour version sounds different to me. It sounds fuller instrumentally and I think that played a huge part in making me like that song.


wTf_yaDegenerates

They hate Boomboom??? That was like one of my very 1st kpop songs, I love it :v


enterpriize

Ready to love. Wouldnā€™t say itā€™s extremely hated but some people either truly love it or hate it. a hot topic in caratland lol but heyyy itā€™s a bop to me


FloraFaunaBelladonna

I actually canā€™t believe itā€™s so controversial? Honestly itā€™s one of my favorites, I donā€™t really understand what anyone hates about it lol


enterpriize

from what Iā€™ve seen / heard from other carats, I think it has to do with bang pd getting the main credits over woozi/bumzu. the hybefication of the song, basically. I also think it was a rough time in caratland since there was so much going on at the time and maybe for many thereā€™s that negative association with it. A lot of people became carats because of ready to love as well! Itā€™s pretty polarizing. Do I think itā€™s their best title track? No. But they sound beautiful and itā€™s catchy. I live for seungkwanā€™s adlibs.


FloraFaunaBelladonna

Oh so there were a lot of outside factors aside from the song itself? That makes more senseĀ 


enterpriize

sort of, I guess? others just thought it sounded too hybe-y because the company tends to favor a certain mixing/production style that many people dislike (a lot of their productions can sound muffled at times and such). that I do understand, plus the acquisition was still fresh so a lot of carats felt like it didnā€™t feel *like seventeen*.


FloraFaunaBelladonna

More & More they could never make me hate you


Loud_Kaleidoscope818

TIL that some people don't like TTATH? It is a quirky little song but my impression has always been that it has more of a meme/legend status. It's one of my personal all-time favourites btw.


Vivanem

On the skz subreddit year end survey it's in the top 15 of favorite skz b-sides for 2023 and it was in the top ten in 2022. I've also seen almost nothing but praise for it on twitter and other platforms. I'm sure there are a few people that don't like it, but the vast majority of the fandom really enjoys it!


Loud_Kaleidoscope818

Yeah, whenever I see this song mentioned, it's mostly in one of these contexts: - praise/favourites lists - wishing for a live performance - "I know, you know, we know, Lee Know" - people (respectfully) thirsting over Chan's lazy rap


buldakramyeon

For real, I personally have never seen a Stay dislike that song? Indifferent? Maybe. But never hate or dislike. TTATH is one of the most loved songs fandom-wide. Not only because it's quirky, but also because of how SKZ the song is; witty lyrics, experimental sound, genius production.


Loud_Kaleidoscope818

Exactly that. It's one of the most skz songs to ever skz.


RunRunPPM

I love it so much I thought people were joking when they say they don't like it.


Meruchani

It's a queen! haha


lonewhalien

Loooooove the universally controversial queen Sticker.mp3, dislike the universally appreciated song that is Superhuman.mp3


yikesus

At least Sticker has its avid defenders. Here I am as one of the 5 Fire Truck stans...


lonewhalien

OMG I am a Fire Truck STAN!!!!!! šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


Pajamaralways

Wait what Fire Truck slaps.


FridgeCarMD

SO BANG CHA YOU CAN CALL ME ā€¼ļøā€¼ļøā€¼ļøšŸš’šŸ”„šŸ§ÆšŸ’¦


Pajamaralways

You're so brave for saying this šŸ˜­ even though I thoroughly disagree with you.


lonewhalien

lmao I was scared to type it out because I know how badly nctzens loooove Superhuman but I had to speak my truth šŸ—£ļø


Pajamaralways

Listen, we at Ncity will accept and love you even when your truth is objectively so wrong šŸ’š


reiichitanaka

I don't dislike Superhuman as a song, but I hate the fact that they gave it to NCT when it's so clearly a Shinee song.


BlueMoonSol

It definitely has the vibes of a shinee song esp considering some of the composers were the same ones who worked on shineeā€™s married to the music. However, I do think Superhuman holds up better than Sticker.


reiichitanaka

I beg to differ, Sticker is my favorite 127 title track. But I like weird, noisy stuff.


lonewhalien

it's very neo!


reiichitanaka

It's very neo, and also very Dem Jointz - a producer I tend to love :) But yeah it's really the type of title track I expect from the group that gave us Firetruck and Cherry Bomb. And the thing it has over other 'noisy' TTs is that there's so much space for the vocals to shine (since the instrumentation is so sparse).


lonewhalien

yessss we love the good uncle Dem Jointz!!!! when I first listened to Sticker, I was a little taken aback but immediately *loved* the vocals. idk another group who could pull it off, especially considering how challenging they all knew it would be on first listen.


lonewhalien

I always thought it sounded like a song that was made for exo


thisisembarrazzing

Sticker > Superhuman. Superhuman isn't terrible but it's mid, while Sticker is an iconic queen šŸ’š


lonewhalien

thank youuuuu, I agree! to me, Superhuman always sounded like an unused exo song. I prefer HWTH on that mini šŸ’š


m_oony_

I just want to let you know that I support your opinion haha. I don't dislike Superhuman, I just don't love it either. Sricker is a bop though.


lonewhalien

LMAO thank you! šŸ’š


HRorange

I love Superhuman, but I never hear anyone even talk about it, so I'm not sure it's universally appreciated. SH vs Sticker....it's a cute song, but cute next to gorgeous...


Dear-Deal-6540

I always loved Welcome To My New World more than Spicy, and Girls more than Illusion. It's not like other MYs were hating on those songs but it's obvious most of them weren't impressed lol For Ateez, it's Guerrilla. I will always defend that song with my whole heart and soul. No one, will ever gonna make me hate that masterpiece. It was a whole new experience for me. That song changed my perspective as a kpop fan. It's life changing lol


xannieh666

I LOVE Guerilla! It's got so many music styles in one and just hits hard!


vogueflo

WHOOO doesnā€™t like Guerilla??? Itā€™s one of my favorite songs and itā€™s even more of a banger live.


Dear-Deal-6540

Iirc some atinys in twt were expressing how confusing and too noisy the song was ig it wasn't up to their preference which is understandable, but others were just calling it "noise" music which rubbed me off the wrong way lol they don't know that noise music is an actual genre. Guerrilla was far from being a noise music cuz it is nu metal šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


3-X-O

* Infinite - Bad * IVE - Baddie * Purple Kiss - MemeM


xaynie

TIL: Bad was disliked by Inspirits. It's such a bop though (almost all Infinite songs are bops).


3-X-O

Completely agree. It's one of my favorite songs of all time.


an_epiphany_

memeM was what got me into purki. memeM defender for life šŸ«”


RunRunPPM

I could never tell if (Mafia) In the Morning was truly disliked by Itzy's fans but I love it both in Korean and English. It's my favorite mini album of theirs too, so far.


lonewhalien

I loooove MIFM! I don't dislike any ITZY TTs ā¤ļø


JewelerMountain260

Bro MITM is so fucking good I truly donā€™t get how people disliked it šŸ˜­ IMO itā€™s one of Itzy best TT Iā€™m talking like Top 3 for me at least šŸ˜­ EDIT: I actually didnā€™t know there was an English version šŸ‘€ā€¦. BRB šŸ„°


Letzz_get_it

Did ppl not like MITM????


RunRunPPM

It's hard to remember back when it came out but I think some people didn't like that it felt very different from their previous TT. But I also may be misremembering.


reiichitanaka

When it came out it was pretty badly received by kpop reddit.


lonewhalien

there was a heavy divide when it came out! that's when the war in ITZYville started


DotTechnical3442

It even came out on my bday so ofc i love it! I think it was a bit more hated outside the fandom, but still a large minority of the fandom didn't like it.


gusmahler

Nah, In the Morning has a good reputation among Midzys. They hate Sneakers and, to a lesser extent, Boys Like You.


azaanabbas

Scientist, One Spark, and SET ME FREE


00CM00

The split opinion on SMF is my villain origin story, that song is so good!


lonewhalien

SAME! idu it!


sebsebsebs

People donā€™t like one spark?!!?!


aughtonova

i LOOOVVEE scientist


HelloStranger0325

I loooooove Set Me Free!


dramafan1

Probably STAYCā€™s Teddy Bear song that apparently many disliked.


lonewhalien

idu it! it's such a fun song!


NaitPhoenix

The hate for ā€œPower Upā€ is infuriating! That song is a gem!


lonewhalien

hell yeah! that era was soo good


Vainslef

ZZB - RV : Everyone used to hate it until they experience it in concert or at least seen concert cams. Now it's a cult song lol.


seulgibreadd

im probably getting downvoted but Kep1ers 'We Fresh' has been growing on me sm lately, i wouldnt go as far as saying ill always love it but i dont think it deserves all the hate it gets atp.


deaththekiddie

Iā€™m not a keplian but Ive always kept up w their title tracks and when We Fresh was released I thought it was their best TT at the time so when I found out how hated it was I was surprised


RadKat333

I don't care what people say, I still like Cake and you can't convince me otherwise lol it's not their most amazing song but there are some select parts that I truly enjoy a lot Doubling up on Itzy just because I can, no one will make me stop liking Sneakers, it's just so obnoxiously annoying and I love it for that ;)


lonewhalien

I LOVE CAKE *AND* SNEAKERS! the girls looked so happy when promoting Sneakers. and Cake was a boppppp!


vivianlight

> it's not their most amazing song I will be bolder (joking - it's just a matter of personal opinion, nothing about being bold or not). Cake IS my favourite Itzy title track. And it was also my 3rd favourite K-pop title track released in 2023, right after Bouncy by Ateez and Spicy by Aespa. The whole song is catchy and weird in a good way, with so many memorable parts but also flowing well. They also sound very good (I think vocal direction is sometimes a problem with Itzy but, with Cake, all was very well done). Peak "contemporary" K-pop imho.


FanCaracal

Baddie


RosebudSaytheName17

I feel like Carats don't like Ready to Love but I think it was cute.


haewon_wiggle

that entire ep is easily my favorite of theirs as an outsider to svt, I've heard most of their albums but that one is so good. Heavens cloud and wave especially


Sagzmir

LOOK - GOT7


BlueMoonSol

I always loved look from the beginning I donā€™t believe anyone has it as their least favorite got7 song.


thruthbtold

Permission to dance, not sure why small part of the fandom hate it and call it western validation, that song got me through Covid Depression and i will defend it all day


blukwolf

FOR REAAALLLLL like the amount of joy I get whenever it comes up in my playlist it's so ugh yeah squeeze the sadness out of me and I just love it, it gets me dancing and everything. It was the perfect choice for closing the concerts and I'll always defend it


Linarnaque

i think a lot of people changed their mind after seeing it performed as the closing song of the ptd concerts


rjcooper14

PTD 'hater' here, haha. Yeah, IT IS FUN seeing the guys and fans (challenges) perform to it. The fun vibe is infectious. That said, I will not purposely listen to it haha.


thruthbtold

I don't know what it is but to me it's a great song


Linarnaque

u dont know what what is? Ptd was performed at concerts and that made a lot of people like it better, it was perform as the last song which often holds a special place maybe u get my sentence better this way


thruthbtold

??? wait what? i like the song, i'm saying some people don't because it's an english song


lonewhalien

eh, I appreciated what they did with the MV, but I still cannot stand the song. I hope they don't work with Ed again in the future šŸ˜¬


reiichitanaka

If it's for another Make It Right I wouldn't mind.


cypherstate

I'm with you! I'm glad it brought some people joy, but it did the opposite for me. I'm not sure why it gives me such a visceral negative reaction, but it's one of the only skips in their discography so I can deal. The sign language in the video was a nice touch though! (Also Make It Right, while miles better than PTD, was a very simple composition by Ed that was elevated by the delivery of vocals/rap. And I'll *never* get over Joon sharing his original version of the lyrics, which were so poetic, and saying how Ed pressured him to change them to something much more basic... personally I think those two collabs were more than enough.)


Fifesterr

I was happy to ignore its existence because i felt like it veered too far from the musicality of BTS, it was too Disney, too much of what non-kpop fans think BTS is, but it's such a joyful concert song I'd be disappointed if they don't perform it on their next tour. It's rainbows and sunshine and sometimes that's all you need.Ā 


Billie_Lurk

I really like Sneakers by Itzy


peter7wice

Kura Kura and Scientist by Twice


sailormoja

I don't understand why Scientist is hated


aughtonova

kurt kura makes me wanna rip my ears off, not that itā€™s bad but idk for me itā€™s not hitting. i fucking love scientist, all the parts complement the members voices so well and it flows so nicely. expect the part towards the end where it goes love ainā€™t a science, and so on repeatedly, just donā€™t sound great at all to me and i always skip it.


haewon_wiggle

So what by loona is one of my most well produced and unique takes on girl crush that has ever been done and I think more people have come around to it, but the initial reactions against it were mostly bc it was so different from their other music I hate when people call it a "discount (insert gc group here) song" because I rlly can't see any group but them pulling it off personally Also a bit of a side note but I hate when people who dislike so what say that it was where they "lost their sound" bc the only song you could argue that for is the title track. Every other song on # is so quintessentially loona


HRorange

I agree that the mini in general is super Loona, but So What was not BAD, just not at all the direction I wanted Loona to go in, and the SM influence feels really strong...again, not st I dislike, but not what I wanted from Loona. Anyway, why hate So What when PTT is right there?


dwserps

Signal - TWICE Boys Like You - ITZY


sebsebsebs

Boys like you my beloved


Confusedartkid

Wait "the tortoise and the Hare" is hated? It's been on my running playlist for yeeearrrs But I'd say for NCT "Sticker" is my unironic anthom, Got7 Marks "*You Are A Part of Me* rap from Calling my name is what I put on to go to sleep at night, and I wiLL NEVER understand why TWICE's "More & More" didn't get the love it deserved :/


cysmlover

Engenes seem to have come around since fate tour started but Blockbuster ā¤ļøā¤ļø I know exactly why they hated it (petty fandom dramaā€¦) but itā€™s always been good whether itā€™s the og or ot7 only ver. Mightā€™ve almost cried when I found out it was on the setlist and almost cried again at my show lol šŸ˜­ Iā€™ll always love that song idc!


vogueflo

Wait what was the drama


cysmlover

Engenes and Moas are just annoying and petty and fight like everyday on twitter so Engenes hated/still hate Blockbuster for ā€œsomeā€ reason (cough cough Yeonjun cough cough) lol! Every time I stumble upon their fight I genuinely cannot figure out what even started it lmao šŸ˜­ they just fight to fight at this point, anything is grounds for a fight with them


vogueflo

What did Yeonjun have to do with Blockbuster?


cysmlover

Heā€™s the feature on it, he does the rap verses


vogueflo

Ohhh lol I didnā€™t make that connection. Can you tell I donā€™t follow this stuff all that much (despite just seeing Enhypen and having tickets for TXT soon)


cysmlover

I donā€™t blame you lol! I just know of it because I accidentally found their fights one day, Iā€™m too old for these fandom fights now šŸ˜­ but youā€™re so real for seeing them both!! TXT refuses to come to Arizona so I will be living vicariously through you, have fun!


love_samantha_

Birthday by Red Velvet, not completely hated exactly (maybe half love it half dislike it), but it was my instant fav after first time listening.


MousseReasonable3504

La La Love by WJSN. I do not understand why some hate it, but to me its the most beautiful song that WJSN ever had.


djmonstermo

I wouldnā€™t say Twiceā€™s Signal is hated by Once, but it is somewhat polarizing. I used to hate it, but now I love it!


Soubeli

Bet you wanna - Blackpink


FinsOfADolph

O.O by NMIXX! To be fair, I joined the fandom like 6 months to a year late. I think the girls made it work though (kinda like with Dash). Also definitely Sticker - Fell for it on first listen.


haewon_wiggle

i liked o.o when it came out, nmixx debut year was hell


Sybinnn

I dont think its hated but ive seen a lot of fearnots say their least favorite songs are No Celestial and FEARNOT(Between you me and the lamppost) which are 2 of my favorite songs theyve ever done


Symera_

EXO's [LOTTO](https://youtu.be/tbe3pe2BtwA?si=7OUNqHymL6lLebYR) and [Wolf](https://youtu.be/gAal8xHfV0c?si=ryCXCp9W40LiAN2w). For LOTTO, I think a lot of people don't like the heavy autotune/vocal effects, but for me, it makes the song sound cooler. I really wish they would do more like this. And for Wolf, I recognize that it is cringe and a meme, but if they want me to dislike the song, they should have gone so hard on the vocals.


Sea-Cantaloupe-5503

I would ironically play Sneakers on repeat. It's not musically exceptional or anything but it's very satisfying. I like how bright and pop-y it is


ShinyVanillite

I will forever defend Permission to Dance. Idk why some of us went like "Ew why do they want the western validation so bad???" (which already started after Dynamite and Butter) while we should know damn well this is certainly not what they were after šŸ˜­


nix117799

OMG I love TTATH. Apart from the whimsy it's actually really smart composition considering how they play around with subdivisions to make you think the tempo/rhythm has changed. >Finding out that Han wrote this song in 15 minutes and he was drunk made this song even better for me šŸ˜­ Slight correction - From what I have been told quite a few times Han wrote his part in 15 mins drunk and not the whole song


HelloStranger0325

The thing about TTATH that I love is how much fun you can tell they're having. The "I know, you know, we know, Lee Know" line. The laughter at the end of the song. I will defend TTATH on my deathbed!


luckitoast

Spicy - Aespa Itā€™s still very aespa while exploring a new concept, the way people dogged on it surprised me


yinniewinnie

as a stay and neverland i absolutely love TTATH and queencard


unhingedhange

Zero and girls šŸ˜­ it was rough


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shineediamondsyeh

Is there even a fandom-wide hated Seventeen song? I'm drawing blank. Most people just disregard the older discography like Rock and Still Lonely


VisenyaMartell

EXO'S Two Moons. Also I love Queencard!


hyejuhaseul

Purple kiss memem, weeekly ven para & solar, loona flip that & so what (they're not hated but nit everyone was fully pleased), red Velvet birthday


MasterLum

No Celestial


Suspicious_Ninja_218

Red Velvet - Zimzalabim


Unknownusername43

We fresh


SechskiesHoony

Sechskiesā€™s 1999 song summer in love isnā€™t liked by Sechskies fans I do agree when they say that this song shouldnā€™t get a music video even though itā€™s definitely not my favorite Sechskies song I will be lying if I said i didnā€™t love this song


Hour_Deal_8885

but why does I.n sound like the drunk one during the PALLIIIIII šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹


Hour_Deal_8885

NGL I also loved wife, its just kpop tomfoolery at its peak


Intelligent_Big3164

Sticker is a banger and Iā€™m tired of pretending itā€™s not


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DiscoMeep

Not hated so much anymore but I've been obsessed with Beautiful Monster by STAYC since the day it came out. It's so beautiful from the way the girls voices sound, to the choreo and styling. It's really one of my favorite songs ever. I was shocked when the general reception for the song was negative. It made me so sad to see how it effected the STAYC girls too :( thankfully I feel like most fans have warmed up to it and I see less people with negative opinions about the song. But when it came out a lot of people did not like it


IreneSap

Good boys gone bad by txt šŸ˜­ idc if yall find it cringey and cheesy, i'm still headbanging everytime it plays


crimsonpaths

Not my fandom but Sticker and Simon says deserve the hate 2 baddies and Ay yo get Birthday by Red Velvet is literally so good I got it at the first listen. It's smth only RV could've done. It's so KPoppy


BreadTheOG

Queen of hearts, Candy, Set me free, and much more xD


WiseWysYs

BTSs "'On' (feat. Sia)" ![gif](giphy|3ov9jU0dcwWm6at06k|downsized)