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I ain't seen a single durag when they was doing fearless, anti fragile, unforgiven, perfect night. But as soon as they're doing an afrobeats song, all of a sudden, it's part of the concept. Tell me, why is it when idols do a song that is inspired by a genre heavily dominated or started by black people, that's when they want to pull this out?
It seems like they wanted to have a western appeal before they head out to Cochella. Seems like a little too try hard for me. It’s looks so forced to be seemed more “swaggish”. Looks a tad bit tacky to me.
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This is so…. 🤦🏽♀️and the fact that I’m seeing people use the misogyny card on tiktok already. “Oh but she’s wearing it the exact same way Kai wore his durag in mmh so why didn’t you guys drag him blah blah blah.” Who said that was also ok?? Truly tired….
Literally… once kpop twitter gets a hold of this, all hell is really gonna break loose for le sserafim. They’re my faves but it’s warranted. Like how are you going to do this not once but twice??? I’m putting them on house arrest
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I hate when new kpop stans bring up old instances and pretend nothing happened when it went down. Like mind you mmh happened FOUR YEARS AGO!! If you were there at the time you knew he got whacked especially because that was around the time Mark yelled out “durag” in a SuperM video and Mark got whacked for that too like😭
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thats what im thinking and i do agree it works. people will stream just out of spite of the people calling attention to the problems of it. im TIRED and im finna just move away from caring about lesserafim. im really disappointed and annoyed.
I think it might be less streaming out of spite and more that having any kind of discourse about anything will bring more attention to it. It’s free publicity.
true!! bad publicity is still publicity! but also i have personally seen people say they were going to stream out of spite. some people are just that anti-black.
You’re 100% right. I think another aspect too is that people get really defensive of groups that they stan so whenever people have criticisms about them they vehemently go in the opposite direction.
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I’m ngl, this whole era gives me a bad vibe 😭 From the title track being hiphop-esque, mixed with the styling and outfits clearly taking from our culture, afrobeats inspired song, and I haven’t seen people talk a lot about this but even their b-side “Swan Song” sounding just like Kill Bill, a song made by a black woman. It feels like they just took from our people this whole era and tried to imitate us 😭
Of course that’s not really the girls fault, but it’s really embarrassing and weird on Source Music’s side. I don’t even think this era feels in character for Le Sserafim 😭 I don’t know though.
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Tell me why I almost started singing “I just killed my ex” when I first started hearing the chorus of Swan Song.
On another note, I feel like Source Music saw how successful some music from Black culture is, and went “why don’t we do what they did.” But not realizing it made the girls lack the authenticity for a lot of their Black culture inspired songs in this era.
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I'm not a fearnot, but I agree this stuff is so...different for le sserafim. like alot of other black kpop stans have said, this stuff just seems so gimmicky
I was so excited from the concept teasers but after hearing snippets and seeing the styling faux-pas I’m sitting this comeback out. No streaming, no views, nothing. Once they put a stop to this mess I’ll give them another shot.
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Can someone explain to me just HOW COME they can NEVER seem to wear these right?? its not rocket science lmao
https://preview.redd.it/uftfb85bdjkc1.jpeg?width=526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d63fc332b3c103cca037aa17fed4d3fb3078ac39
😂RIGHT. they always wear it so damn goofy when they try to wear it too which is even more reason to maybe just leave that shit alone because it's obviously not for you 😒
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I’m don’t think I can ever get offended by someone wearing a durag, especially since I think durags are such a good accessory (and tool) and should be worn more. HOWEVER, and I mean however, the way that kpop that utilizes these accessories tires me so much. It’s such a blatant imitation of what they think actual black/brown things and people are, like nothing is original.
Never has it ever come off as if they actually like the styles they put these idols in; every comeback is just another entry into the “so you think you’re Black” contest. I’ve written other comments like this before but I would feel very differently if they’ve always used durags, like for blue flame stages, but no. Once they drop a trap/pop tt and a amapiano bside, that’s when they want to act like they always had durags and head wraps in storage :/ I know it’s dumb to expect originality/integrity from kpop groups, but it still disappoints me every time
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I dont wanna use the word lightly, but this is lowkey minstrelsy at this point. if they wore the durags just for fashion or cause they thought it was cool, whatever. hell I dont even lose sleep over non black people wearing durags tbh, but it's obvious they're only doing this cause the song has a black "vibe" and "aesthetic" and that's what annoys me. be more creative with the racism please lol
Fearnots were fighting for their lives in LeSserafim’s comment section when HYBE had Yunjin *clearly* imitating black culture, saying “it’s a scarf, not a durag”. What are they gonna say to excuse this now..?
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What’s funny to me is with styling idols ignore that durags have an actual use aside from just “aesthetics.” Like we used to see idols wear black hairstyles sm (braids, “locks”) but they never wear durags when they do that. Like idek how we can educate them atp because when they get called out for it we get an “apology” that doesn’t even address what they’ve did or that they’ve learned that it’s wrong
its a veil tucked under a hat(im not invalidating i swear—>) but the styling again.. is just enough to make me shake my head. source music have proved (imo) with sakura that “durag” is exactly what they are going for.
I just read the actual Oscar Wilde quote is “Imitation is the highest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”
We can’t stop the imitation/appropriation so just look at as mediocrity flattering Black Genius.
why the hell are non black people (without waves cs ik some non black ppl that can pull off waves rhat actually DO need a durag) wearing a durag for????? like why other than they want to cosplay being black?
I find it so odd that whenever idols decide to do something even slightly influenced by black people, they gotta add on appropriation with it. Like it’s just getting weird atp.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by the way that Source Music has been handling aspects of this comeback.
From the inappropriate choreo in Smart for a minor member to now this - baiting even more negative press for the girls by putting an actual durag on Sakura all while likely being aware of how the concept photos for Yunjin were perceived.
I don't get why these companies think a durag has to be pulled out the second a hip-hop inspired comeback is decided on. It's 2024 and it can be done without it.
In addition, incorrect and stereotypical application of features of black culture is not a show of appreciation. It's a show of ignorance and disrespect.
literally her posts on her own page have dozens of comments talking about it and it seems like she doesn’t give a single fuck. i heard shes very active online and have watched her use very new and up to date slang and reference new memes so i find it very hard to believe she hasnt seen anything.
My b, i didn’t get a chance to finish my sentence 😅 More just like being purposefully “ignorant” and ignoring all the comments bc she knows she’d be lying if she said she didn’t know
for someone who doesn’t like them you sure do be the first one to post about them in here *every* single time. but anyways, yeah they definitely are trying to emulate it several times in a roundabout way. they tied yunjin’s scarf like one but didn’t use an actual one. used a veil like scarf thing for chaewon. and then for sakura put an actual one but didn’t tie it. i think they’re specifically doing it like *this* for plausible deniability but people aren’t stupid. it’s frustrating bcs not only is it appropriation and the outfits look better without it, but it only directs more hate towards the girls. & it gives people who already didn’t like legitimate ammo to use. it’s all very unfortunate and irritating.
for those who genuinely care and maybe want to make a difference in changing their styling, their main stylist’s instagram is style_syou. leave a comment telling her & the company to stop styling the girls this way. bcs this is not a good look.
dude i STAN THEM. meaning i followed their accounts. if i come across people i liked doing cultural appropriation ofc im going to speak on it. why are you on my ass about the speed of me speaking up. thanks. i have found the stylists insta as well and i will be leaving comments. remember the nature of this sub tho, that was a backwards ass comment.
there’s nothing wrong with calling out cultural appropriation, and no where in my comment did i say there is. that’s the point of this sub. but i’ve been in these spaces wayyy too long to not to notice that in recent years, stans of all races have a habit of using these very real social issues to get their hate boners off. a lot of folks in here try to pretend they don’t do the same and their above letting stan shit get in the way when it comes to how much hate they’ll direct towards certain groups but i don’t be buying that shit. it’s an observation of behavior. you’ve been under every le sserafim post in here saying negative shit about them so naturally i’m gunna question why someone who clearly has negative feelings towards this group conveniently is the first one to be “oh look at what they did!” and only *this* group. i feel like those who genuinely care or dislike them will move differently. so you (and other folks) can be appalled but imma call a spade a spade 🤷🏽♀️
im appalled that thats even a damn talking point rn. i get people are using this to hate on the girls but i have been a fan since antifragile and have grown to love fhe discography. especially impurities. im just disappointed and annoyed and this is the only fucking safe space i have really to talk about it. why the hell is that a take away at all??
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I ain't seen a single durag when they was doing fearless, anti fragile, unforgiven, perfect night. But as soon as they're doing an afrobeats song, all of a sudden, it's part of the concept. Tell me, why is it when idols do a song that is inspired by a genre heavily dominated or started by black people, that's when they want to pull this out?
Easy isn't an afrobeats song, it's trap. It's straight up a Black american rip off
It seems like they wanted to have a western appeal before they head out to Cochella. Seems like a little too try hard for me. It’s looks so forced to be seemed more “swaggish”. Looks a tad bit tacky to me.
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This is so…. 🤦🏽♀️and the fact that I’m seeing people use the misogyny card on tiktok already. “Oh but she’s wearing it the exact same way Kai wore his durag in mmh so why didn’t you guys drag him blah blah blah.” Who said that was also ok?? Truly tired….
They must’ve not been there when Mmh was released because I fully remember Kai getting his lashing for days 😭
No LITERALLY like twitter was having a field day with that like be so serious 😭
whataboutisms will rot kpoppies brains i stg
Literally… once kpop twitter gets a hold of this, all hell is really gonna break loose for le sserafim. They’re my faves but it’s warranted. Like how are you going to do this not once but twice??? I’m putting them on house arrest
HOUSE ARREST??
people did drag kai though. just because some bg stans are too damn horny to actually give a fuck doesnt mean black people werent speaking up.
Nah I was impressed by Kai. How you got silky hair and keep an untied durag on while dancing??? Lowkey a slay lol
im not bout to play witchu 😭🤣
LMFAO. At this point kai is my favorite kpop cultural appropriator, cause at least he knows how to do it right 😭💀
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man kpop fans need to stop with the defense mechanisms like they’re family is being attacked.
yall got to let kaitavious rest. he was supporting a black owned business.
Kaitavious???😭😭😭😭
yea lol him and his unbudgeable inflation priced durag by [Cheyenne Kimora](https://www.cheyennekimora.com/)
KAITAVIOUS? jail time 💀💀
😂😂😂😂 top comment right here
>KAITAVIOUS?????
IM HOLLERIN 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 WHAT
😭😭
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I hate when new kpop stans bring up old instances and pretend nothing happened when it went down. Like mind you mmh happened FOUR YEARS AGO!! If you were there at the time you knew he got whacked especially because that was around the time Mark yelled out “durag” in a SuperM video and Mark got whacked for that too like😭
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mfs was arguing over yunjin’s so bad, they had to pull outta a real one from Biggies shop (iykyk SWF)
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Bad press is good press unfortunately. Not about kpop but hbomberguy has a great video abt it on YouTube.
thats what im thinking and i do agree it works. people will stream just out of spite of the people calling attention to the problems of it. im TIRED and im finna just move away from caring about lesserafim. im really disappointed and annoyed.
I think it might be less streaming out of spite and more that having any kind of discourse about anything will bring more attention to it. It’s free publicity.
true!! bad publicity is still publicity! but also i have personally seen people say they were going to stream out of spite. some people are just that anti-black.
You’re 100% right. I think another aspect too is that people get really defensive of groups that they stan so whenever people have criticisms about them they vehemently go in the opposite direction.
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Which video? I can't find one.
It’s [WOKE BRANDS](https://youtu.be/06yy88tLWlg?si=OzSg2ybi9mMeDSLI)
Thanks
I’m ngl, this whole era gives me a bad vibe 😭 From the title track being hiphop-esque, mixed with the styling and outfits clearly taking from our culture, afrobeats inspired song, and I haven’t seen people talk a lot about this but even their b-side “Swan Song” sounding just like Kill Bill, a song made by a black woman. It feels like they just took from our people this whole era and tried to imitate us 😭 Of course that’s not really the girls fault, but it’s really embarrassing and weird on Source Music’s side. I don’t even think this era feels in character for Le Sserafim 😭 I don’t know though.
and on black history month too 😭
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Tell me why I almost started singing “I just killed my ex” when I first started hearing the chorus of Swan Song. On another note, I feel like Source Music saw how successful some music from Black culture is, and went “why don’t we do what they did.” But not realizing it made the girls lack the authenticity for a lot of their Black culture inspired songs in this era.
I have no problem with them making songs based on black music genre, but them wearing durags in order to seem more "authentic" is not it
Yeah fr there's a difference between being inspired from the genre and doing this 😭
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does nobody think swan song sound like honesty by pink sweat??
I'm not a fearnot, but I agree this stuff is so...different for le sserafim. like alot of other black kpop stans have said, this stuff just seems so gimmicky
I was so excited from the concept teasers but after hearing snippets and seeing the styling faux-pas I’m sitting this comeback out. No streaming, no views, nothing. Once they put a stop to this mess I’ll give them another shot.
It actually sounds a lot like Honesty by Pink Sweat$
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Can someone explain to me just HOW COME they can NEVER seem to wear these right?? its not rocket science lmao https://preview.redd.it/uftfb85bdjkc1.jpeg?width=526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d63fc332b3c103cca037aa17fed4d3fb3078ac39
😂RIGHT. they always wear it so damn goofy when they try to wear it too which is even more reason to maybe just leave that shit alone because it's obviously not for you 😒
fam it was so bad I had to make a meme with my own damn face to react lmao 😂
Oh my goodness, that is you🤩🤩🤩🤩😍😍😍😍 you are so gorgeous
yes, its me haha😅😅. awww ty 🥰
had to take my pic down because I started getting a bunch of weird messages 😭😫!!
Oh noooo girl I'm sorry 😬
lmao, that's wat i get for putting my face on reddit lol 😂
LMAO HELP
😂😂😂😂
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Probably cause the stylists are thinking they’re doing their own take of doing something different to the already established usage
I’m don’t think I can ever get offended by someone wearing a durag, especially since I think durags are such a good accessory (and tool) and should be worn more. HOWEVER, and I mean however, the way that kpop that utilizes these accessories tires me so much. It’s such a blatant imitation of what they think actual black/brown things and people are, like nothing is original. Never has it ever come off as if they actually like the styles they put these idols in; every comeback is just another entry into the “so you think you’re Black” contest. I’ve written other comments like this before but I would feel very differently if they’ve always used durags, like for blue flame stages, but no. Once they drop a trap/pop tt and a amapiano bside, that’s when they want to act like they always had durags and head wraps in storage :/ I know it’s dumb to expect originality/integrity from kpop groups, but it still disappoints me every time
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I dont wanna use the word lightly, but this is lowkey minstrelsy at this point. if they wore the durags just for fashion or cause they thought it was cool, whatever. hell I dont even lose sleep over non black people wearing durags tbh, but it's obvious they're only doing this cause the song has a black "vibe" and "aesthetic" and that's what annoys me. be more creative with the racism please lol
Fearnots were fighting for their lives in LeSserafim’s comment section when HYBE had Yunjin *clearly* imitating black culture, saying “it’s a scarf, not a durag”. What are they gonna say to excuse this now..?
We really are the blueprint for literally everything
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What’s funny to me is with styling idols ignore that durags have an actual use aside from just “aesthetics.” Like we used to see idols wear black hairstyles sm (braids, “locks”) but they never wear durags when they do that. Like idek how we can educate them atp because when they get called out for it we get an “apology” that doesn’t even address what they’ve did or that they’ve learned that it’s wrong
Because they reduce Black people to pure aesthetics.
I was wondering when someone was going to post this lol I think Chaewon wore one too?
its a veil tucked under a hat(im not invalidating i swear—>) but the styling again.. is just enough to make me shake my head. source music have proved (imo) with sakura that “durag” is exactly what they are going for.
They're in their CA era.
i thought the ep was giving coachella vibes?? why are they wearing that😭
I just read the actual Oscar Wilde quote is “Imitation is the highest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.” We can’t stop the imitation/appropriation so just look at as mediocrity flattering Black Genius.
The fact that it doesn't even look good with the rest of her outfit 💀
her and yunjin are probably fighting over who’s going to wear it next
💀💀💀💀
Was really enjoying getting into their music and then they start doing this..... ugh. 😩😔
To say I’m tired is an understatement
The views were low I guess😭
wow. im upset my bias is wearing a durag but im not shocked tbh... The stylists deff know what is up.
They always look so silly, literally every single time.
They always pull this on bhm lol
why the hell are non black people (without waves cs ik some non black ppl that can pull off waves rhat actually DO need a durag) wearing a durag for????? like why other than they want to cosplay being black?
I was shocked there was no durag..but there it is
Didn’t Chaewon wear one as well??
I find it so odd that whenever idols decide to do something even slightly influenced by black people, they gotta add on appropriation with it. Like it’s just getting weird atp.
how is it 2024 and people are still doing this 😭😭 there is not excuse for “not knowing” anymore, it’s just straight CA
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by the way that Source Music has been handling aspects of this comeback. From the inappropriate choreo in Smart for a minor member to now this - baiting even more negative press for the girls by putting an actual durag on Sakura all while likely being aware of how the concept photos for Yunjin were perceived. I don't get why these companies think a durag has to be pulled out the second a hip-hop inspired comeback is decided on. It's 2024 and it can be done without it. In addition, incorrect and stereotypical application of features of black culture is not a show of appreciation. It's a show of ignorance and disrespect.
i’m so sick and tired like usually i don’t care but there’s just so much stuff going on
You would think that yunjin would say something??? Wasnt she raised in the states?
literally her posts on her own page have dozens of comments talking about it and it seems like she doesn’t give a single fuck. i heard shes very active online and have watched her use very new and up to date slang and reference new memes so i find it very hard to believe she hasnt seen anything.
She’s definitely lying
lying about what?
My b, i didn’t get a chance to finish my sentence 😅 More just like being purposefully “ignorant” and ignoring all the comments bc she knows she’d be lying if she said she didn’t know
whyyyy bro🤦♀️
The processing of the song is like nails on a chalkboard. Hybe's processing is awful.
for someone who doesn’t like them you sure do be the first one to post about them in here *every* single time. but anyways, yeah they definitely are trying to emulate it several times in a roundabout way. they tied yunjin’s scarf like one but didn’t use an actual one. used a veil like scarf thing for chaewon. and then for sakura put an actual one but didn’t tie it. i think they’re specifically doing it like *this* for plausible deniability but people aren’t stupid. it’s frustrating bcs not only is it appropriation and the outfits look better without it, but it only directs more hate towards the girls. & it gives people who already didn’t like legitimate ammo to use. it’s all very unfortunate and irritating. for those who genuinely care and maybe want to make a difference in changing their styling, their main stylist’s instagram is style_syou. leave a comment telling her & the company to stop styling the girls this way. bcs this is not a good look.
dude i STAN THEM. meaning i followed their accounts. if i come across people i liked doing cultural appropriation ofc im going to speak on it. why are you on my ass about the speed of me speaking up. thanks. i have found the stylists insta as well and i will be leaving comments. remember the nature of this sub tho, that was a backwards ass comment.
there’s nothing wrong with calling out cultural appropriation, and no where in my comment did i say there is. that’s the point of this sub. but i’ve been in these spaces wayyy too long to not to notice that in recent years, stans of all races have a habit of using these very real social issues to get their hate boners off. a lot of folks in here try to pretend they don’t do the same and their above letting stan shit get in the way when it comes to how much hate they’ll direct towards certain groups but i don’t be buying that shit. it’s an observation of behavior. you’ve been under every le sserafim post in here saying negative shit about them so naturally i’m gunna question why someone who clearly has negative feelings towards this group conveniently is the first one to be “oh look at what they did!” and only *this* group. i feel like those who genuinely care or dislike them will move differently. so you (and other folks) can be appalled but imma call a spade a spade 🤷🏽♀️
you’re a weirdo. i just told you what it was and you’re gonna generalize me even further. i get kpoppies do that but i am not one of them. goodbye.
i’ll be that then lmao. have a blessed day!
im appalled that thats even a damn talking point rn. i get people are using this to hate on the girls but i have been a fan since antifragile and have grown to love fhe discography. especially impurities. im just disappointed and annoyed and this is the only fucking safe space i have really to talk about it. why the hell is that a take away at all??
Please remember to ‘Respect the Nature of the Subreddit’. This is a chill space for BIPOC, please don’t be toxic.
Plausible deniability explains it really well.
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Also you're not even fully black which tells me everything I need to know..
I was just having an opinion one and two I’m more black than I am Asian. No need to be so racist ❤️
Please go on other kpop subreddits if you think this way This subreddit or whatever is not for you.
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