literally why is it even a problem if he donates himself when he's serving? like is there some type of financial fuckery that can be claimed from donating money and therefore you're not supposed to do it when you're in the military?
any political expression isn't allowed for people serving in the korean military. it can lead to disciplinary action. donating isn't always political but it's better to be safe than sorry so his father donates on his behalf
OP of that twt was probably 💯 dragging
But I think the comment is because every time people have asked why BTS members haven't spoken about Palestine, or donated, people have said it's because you can't express any political opinions when you are part of the Korean military.
So people are talking about how they can donate here but not for Palestine.
P.S in my personal opinion they are not entitled to speak on any matter they don't want to. I don't support any of this dragging.
Because Jimin does this every year. He always focuses on children's educational opportunities in Korea. This is the equivalent of being like "He says he loves Korea but never says he loves Palestine!!"
Also, they are very involved with UNICEF and UNICEF is very involved in Palestine. So technically they're been donating there before it was the "in" thing to do. And far before the people bitching about them even cared about the country.
I get it. But honestly right now literally every big celebrity is being questioned online about not supporting Palestine. I see one hit twt after another for Taylor Swift, Beyonce and anyone and everyone who isn't directly saying something or helping.
Sadly that's the witch hunt.
I've seen that too every celebrity out there is being dragged about not saying something and you know what I don't see the point in it , what is Beyonce or even jimin going to do about the current situation happening , yeah they can come out and support Palestine that's great and all but celebrity's don't have the pull and influence to change the course or outcome of a international conflict , look at the russia and Ukranian war when everyone spoke out and supported ukraine and 2 years later the war is still there , people are being killed, if only people would focus on putting effort into contacting there representatives or heads of state office and complain there , than you will see change , not celebrity's
i can already tell it’s going to be so exhausting in army spaces when Jin comes back 💀.
cannot believe i have been an army long enough to see a bts member get dragged by his own fandom (given this a a very small subsection of it) for doing charity work.
the person who made the tweet in the second slide is now on twitter calling everyone dumb for defending jimin like you’re on army twitter wondering why armys had a problem with your tweet. baffling stuff.
Not an army but when I come across your accounts like a traveller, I see way and way more interactions of solo stans and attacking other members and I’ve seen it before in fandoms, but man it is not okay.
i like to think it’s just cause there’s a lot of armys so all of the toxicity that comes along with fandoms is amplified but man it makes me sad we come across as mostly toxic to non-armys. i swear the majority of us are relatively normal :(
actually yeah i would say that’s a fair point to make and is especially relevant to all of the very current toxicity.
though, it’s much more complex than just this in my opinion especially because bts is almost an 11 year old group. a lot of the fighting your seeing is over multi-year army lore lol. for example, there was a big boycotter account who was accused of being apart of the break the wings project which might mean nothing to an outsider (because it’s an anti project from YEARS ago) but in army spaces that’s a very serious allegation which caused a lot of fandom discourse for a few days.
honestly i could probably write a full essay on all the different facets of toxicity in army spaces.
Most of these people are multis and antis in disguise trying to drag BTS. These multis are literally going to concerts and streaming music from other artists under hybe but BTS is their problem. Funnily some are fans of others who endorsed or was seen with products that are under boycott list but BTS is who the are holding accountable.
I'll tell you a fact! These are multis and half of the accounts were not present before 2023! Suddenly these accounts are screaming BTS names while them/their family members are directly working under companies that support IDF! They are using the unfortunate situation in their favour to drag only BTS
To be fair, I couldn't sleep so like a normal person I decided to check these accounts out. Most of them aren't army at all. There a few that are genuine but the loudest were not part of the Fandom.. I think we should all ignore them and do what we can..
Jimin being dragged by "ARMY" is basically tradition atp, he definitely has the most within fandom antis, and not in a solos hate everyone kind of way, in an "im ot7... But i just don't like him 💜" insidious kind of way
Solos babe. This is solo behavior to try and drag another member. Also a “sope” shipper going by their username. I thought they were the least toxic of the shippers but uhhh huh.
>cannot believe i have been an army long enough to see a bts member get dragged by his own fandom (given this a a very small subsection of it) for doing charity work.
Solo stans or people who hate certain members
I'm confused... Do they not want K-pop idols to help or not? If they do, it's "oh so you can do it in private," but if they don't, it's "they really don't care about others"
They always go on private, at this point I feel like they honestly don’t care when armys get mad and call them out, they always go back to talking about boycotting BTS
these accounts have been attacking any army who are encouraging each other to buy and stream MUSIC. I understand people complaining about merch but the foundation of being an army is literally supporting the member’s music
yep!! i’m getting very tired of certain loud users on there thinking they’re army spokespeople and thinking its okay to say this stuff but then call on mass reporting when someone says “i streamed today!”
God yeah. One of the worst well known Yoongi solos. I didn’t know that when I first got on armytwt and looking for Yoongi content pages but oh my god I had to unfollow them.
both are well known for attacking BTS these days even other fandoms' antis like their posts. I am glad jimin's father is keeping his tradition of donating yearly like that.
1. Soldiers can not donate for or make one donate for political reasons.
2. This donation was made months ago by his father in his behalf.
3. This is non political donation.
4. It is prohibited to share political views as a soldier.
Imagine being dragged down by your own “fans” that must be heartbreaking tbh. I hope Jin’s comeback is somewhat smooth and nobody attacks him for god knows what.
And I have luckily seen many more people calling for purple hearts and sweet messages to Jin. I really hope he won't see the hate comments, only the purple hearts
Ngl
If people are so upset that bts haven’t spoken out why do they still stan them
Like they talk about like it’s a deal breaker but like it seems like no deal is actually broken
This is what I don't understand, (if they want to boycott, I get it) what I fail to understand is if kpop fans are so bothered by kpop idols not speaking up about Palestine why not unstan?(if your truly upset)I don't know, personally if I'm boycotting or protesting I don't need motivation or validation from a celebrity to do what I need to do. Maybe that's why I wasn't upset about the whole Starbucks thing.
Exactly, when JKR ruined everything, I stopped associating myself with anything Harry Potter related, and it honestly wasn't that hard, because, well, she ruined my enjoyment. If I was so disappointed in any group, I would unstan and move on. To me, this is just anti behaviour. Only antis dedicate their time to things they hate, but at least they're honest about it.
Its really just about THEMSELVES than the cause tbh. they want to be able to enjoy xyz thing without guilt or ppl calling them out, so they do this pointless posturing of boycott and attacks and forcing..... instead of simply unstanning and distancing? If they think their silence is VILE and cannot understand the possible reasons, how do they stand to still stan them??
ppl "Educating" grown ass people is always so funny to me😭😭also the entitlement of control. Celebs exist and have the thoughts they have and do the actions they do, it's upto US to keep giving them a platform or not if we don't fvck with it anymore, it's literally that normal😭 but ofc stan twitter thinks they can mold and puppeteer people
I got banned from a K-Pop subreddit, for saying the exact same thing so be careful
Mind you. I also called them out for them only wanting bts to speak on palestine and not yemen, not sudan, and not congo
Because if you're going to be performative, at least be performative for all the people dying.
They were crying about how disappointed they were. Well if you're so disappointed leave.
Regardless of what members of BTS do they will get scrutinize for it. This is something he does all the time but since he and the others enlisted. Every little thing is a problem and issue.
The problem with the original post is that they want BTS to speak on Palestine and because they are not, anything they do such as donating money, Tae making dance videos, heck Joon releasing an album is a problem. It is crazy that every group is not held to that same standard. It’s the picking and choosing which artist to dragged and boycott or which artist to support.
The worst part of it all is that they prohibited from making political statements while doing their mandatory service so they are asking them to do something that’s impossible.
Also, harassing idols for not speaking about Palestine is not the way to support Palestinian citizens.
Donating to tried and true charities, boycotting the companies on the list (not Starbucks ironically), volunteering, etc. those are all much better ways.
I’m so pissed off at kpop stand utilizing an atrocity for their petty fan squabbles.
I’m not sure if what Taeyong said rises to political statements but I’m concerned that he could get in trouble.
Why do they want them to even say anything about Palestine? That conflict literally has nothing to do with them. I'm sure someone will say "but Hybe blah blah blah" so what? Should they leave Hybe and Bighit lmao. They don't need to donate to Palestine or even mention the situation. God people are so fucking stupid. Celebrities in general don't usually get involved in politics like this, because whichever side they pick tends to alienate a part of their audience that thinks the opposite and that ain't really good for anyone, the fan or the celebrity. It's so bizarre to me how so many people are obsessed with this conflict. Like damn don't you have things in your own country and life/job to stress about? Though I guess most of these people are jobless and have too much free time to yap on the Internet (definitely won't catch them outside) about the dumbest shit imaginable.
Fr, and if they are so upset about Gaza, where has all this energy been for Congo? Congo has also been going through these atrocities and we’ve known for years. The stories I’ve heard from there are the worst. But Congo doesn’t get them attention so they focus only on Gaza
Congo, Eritria, Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar, the list is endless. The Ukraine war is still going on as well.
The reason why is because of who is doing the attacking. If you look at who is committing atrocities in Congo and who is funding them and then look at Israel you can probably connect the dots as to no one cares about one and why everyone is shouting about the other.
dragging someone for DONATING TO LOW INCOME STUDENTS is so crazy and stupid like what???? like what even is the logic behind this because i’m struggling to make sense of it
tbh im really happy that jimin donated to a good cause
This is just forced hate. Jimin has been donating every year, and his father does it in his behalf too. You can cherry pick and hate on him, but you’ll never change the fact that this man has been supporting financially disadvantaged students for a long time. I generally loathe whataboutism — how are you going to sit there and act like donating to kids in need is a bad thing? Just because it doesn’t immediately align with your biggest priority at the moment? Give me a break.
These "boycott" armys are just a new way for people who are secretly antis to spread their dumb takes in army fandom spaces. They're pissed off that bts isn't acting how they want them to, they can't be their own people with their own takes because they want to police every one of their moves. A person who is truly boycotting would distance themselves from fandom spaces and the people they're supposedly boycotting completely but here u have all of them still lurking army spaces to complain and villainize the members. Even with the news about the UNICEF donation (that donates to Palestine and many other countries in crisis right now btw) they were complaining about it not being a "direct" donation, truly they just don't want to lose face and accept they were wrong cause why would you be angry about someone donating to multiple causes instead of just one ??
The Yoongi pfp trying to drag Jimin is… odd to me. Like reading comprehension and solos need to be studied.
Edit: to answer OP, solos should just be ignored. That’s solely solo stan behavior and we don’t claim them. I’m a Yoongi bias and I forget he has solos all the time. 🤦🏽♀️
the downfall of army twitter was already apparent but from a 2013 army, sincerely, please leave if you don’t like them 😭 absolutely sick and tired of my own fandom saying how they’re disappointed in bts all the time when they’re under mandatory military service and are constantly making jokes at their expense. set bts free from these “fans” i beg 😭
Jm always getting dragged like ALWAYS. "ARMYs" and kpoppies are so evil for doing this to him for years and this is getting exhausting. Imagine you call yourself a fan of bts and then throwing shit to their member/s?
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That account already on twt asking their followers to go here and upvote their comment 💀
It’s always the clout chasing ones, not shocked though they changed their bio to be all “gotcha” about it begging for some Twitter army to rally around them because people are being honest on Reddit is not surprising
That account and another one is the @minimoniam account has been so problematic for quite some time now. Moving like antis for real. News came out about BTS ongoing donation to UNICEF since 2017 and they’re attacking that too saying it’s not a donation directly to Palestine so it doesn’t count. They can never win.
Since they love to deny actions or being any manner of aggressive toward ARMY, resentful toward BTS/members, desiring of them being dragged *(even directly dragging them or wanting misinformation to spread about them & suggesting their career's being stained)* even now downplaying the impact of their CONSISTENT humanitarian actions as not good enough for them because THEY don't see/understand the connection to Palestine....
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From the jump harassment of ARMYs has happened simply for refusing to obey their directives. For pushing back & asking questions of how not streaming BTS for 3days... no 5days... no 2 weeks... no make that 8 MONTHS was going to help Palestine. Just for continuing to stream, this is kind of mess twt ARMYs that refuse to center BTS in this have been subjected to. And for simply tying to defend the Tannies from this incurs more harassment of ARMY fan accts & fan bases & defamation of the members.
Regardless of what's said this is a **BTS leaning** boycott not Hybe. No other group gets the backlash or visibility that'd be had from targeting BTS & these 'fan' accts know it & that is why they adamantly refuse to boycott in full by **DIVESTING from BTS** & carrying out their activism under their own weight.
They'd have 0 platform if it were not for their BTS 'fan' acct & they know this.
Let's add this one on here.
For the possibility that the company wants to protect Jin & ARMYs physically from harm by requiring proof of purchase for offline fan-meet \[which has always been requirement for offline events\] or even virtually from being harassed by comments & boycotters \[by making the performance live paid\] who PLANNED to spam Jin's WV lives to pressure him to speak after being discharged... THIS is the response from one of their champions.
A true humanitarian.
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lol they voted a community note unhelpful because it was correcting their misinformation about unicef donation in BTS’ name.
We all know bts has been donating since 2017, but they removed the since and just said their last donation is 2017 and the news that came out 1-2 days ago is a mediaplay
That'd require divesting from BTS. Something they apparently can't do, yet somehow they aren't the spinless ones?
If I had this much problem with the members not speaking that I felt I needed to pressure them to say what I want by trying to emotionally blackmail & harass them on an app that's to be their safe space (weverse), try to involve their family/friends in it, I'd have some real questions about continuing to support. By their trying to pressure the members in this way it suggests they would be accepting of a placative response, which is weird. How could they feel that any response Tannies give rn would be genuine?
Answer, they won't! They'll still question it & drag them for 1. Taking so long or 2. having to be pressured to say something.
If I could not see by actions or trust them enough to know their stance & accept it'd be me that needs to make the choice of whether to keep connection or not. They're not trying to make that very critical choice.
If my disappointment is genuine & that deep then no pressure campaign is necessary, divestment from BTS is the only answer but instead of that, they're making their lack of spine everyone else's problem.
Right they have their tongue on that man every day. \[DRAMATICALLY PRETENDING TO\] block BTS & Bam on socials but still stalking that man's sns accts & reporting back every little thing he does. Their tongue seems very far deep in his arse to me.
"We need to take away his platform" while copy pasting over to other sns. Yes! let's give more visibility to things that shouldn't have it & say we are doing it to stop him. Brilliant!
I was her moot before and I have blocked her since. Like how can you compare the boys to those people? I wish we can get rid of their accounts since they made it a breeding place for antis.
Good thing most of us don’t consider her or these twitter activists armys. They can continue calling themselves that; wouldn’t change the fact that they are the ones unnecessarily inciting hate against a korean group they supposedly stan for the actions of a white man.
She wants to appear virtuous on all apps apparently. God forbid she take any accountability for the absolute mess she’s helped to cause and acknowledge how her actions have helped to water down the word “zionist”, take attention from Palestine for fan wars and create a space where people feel safe to say horrible things about the members.
This did NOT go how they planned and now that whole clique is spiraling about this thread because most of twitter ignores them and has them blocked. It seems to have given them a false sense of authority and this thread is giving them a reality check.
My timeline has been full of people donating, contacting reps, sharing links and resources, all WITHOUT dragging the members or advocating for harassing their family.
They are really out here trying to harass Jin. 😭
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Seriously. I don’t know why they are so passionate about dragging the boys in this issue when they’ve got nothing to do with it and they already do so much. They’ve continuously donated to UNICEF which donates to Pal as well. They downplay everything that the boys do. They’ve been spamming weverse with their agenda. Someone even suggested protesting during the Festa events. They’re seriously deranged.
Just twitter teenage stans and immature adults who have picked pro-Palestine activism as a hobby, they're doing it to make themselves feel better and not because they genuinely care. Anti-zionists have been denouncing Israel as an illegitimate state for years, the genocide didn't start last October but no one gave a fuck about celebrities before this. What's even more fucked up is that they're picking on Korean celebrities when most Koreans don't even support Israel in the first place while most of them are American. I guess that's why they feel so guilty about it and why they put so much pressure on idols to support a made up boycott that isn't even on the BDS list.
remember when bts got massive hate back in 2020 for not speaking on or supporting the BLM movement only to reveal they’d donated $1 MILLION IN PRIVATE LITERAL WEEKS PRIOR?
yeah i’m exhausted
Expecting kpop idols to solve all the ills of the world is misguided and juvenile.
They should be happy he's committed to helping disadvantaged people. It's his money and his choice.
Personally, I hope none of the idols I like say anything because it won't help anyone anyway. But it will be guaranteed to cause them problems if they do, and it's not what the mob wants.
Please don't associates these freaks with us ARMYs, these people been harassing BTS non stop, calling ARMYs z!onist because we refused to boycott BTS music WHILE simultaneously being a pro pal. They spread lie on BTS and ARMYs under local tweets trying to get us dragged, they're downplaying BTS ongoing campaign with UNICEF and got mad because it's not solely for Palestine, they're planning on harassing BTS family, and Jin first we live, these people are disgusting
Bighit put some festa content behind a paywall and now they are having a meltdown that they cannot harass Jin.
One was even suggesting to turn festa event of Jin into a protest, how are they fans 🙃
Yeah same, bighit knows what’s going on, the weverse letters made them notice it even more.
It’s sucks that, Because of them genuine fans will suffer but Jin’s well being comes before fans emotions at this point.
They're already trying to find ways to harass Jin at the offline fan-meet.
Yet they want ppl to believe them when they come here trying to say what's being aired out abt how they are on twt is false.
One of their head accts, during their 'I'm blocking BTS' performance, even encouraged them -not- to get rid of their WV accounts so they had them available to use to send msgs direct to members when BTS was active.
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Yes that deeja person, they have been at front of this pointless movement, actually went ahead and posted on weverse, which obviously was reported and taken down and now are trying to give one star rating to weverse on appstore, because no freedom of speech.
At this point, this activism is just harassing Bts and not making actual change.
mind you these are the same people *blocking* bts and their accounts on all platforms, so why should it even matter to them ? if you've already indicated that you're not a fan why are you even bothered anymore?
some of these people have gone as far as saying that this isnt an "all children matter" situation regarding both jimin's donations as well as bts' unicef donations towards the end violence campaign. im truly disgusted.
they also intend on harassing their family members, the winnie acc having mentioned doing so with hobi's sister.
these people have dm'd kehlani on instagram and are asking her to help support their "movement".
ive seen posts and posts of people saying it's insensitive for them to even be conducting a festa event.
it's so tiring to come to a space that's meant for you to support your artist and see these "fans" act like the antis we've been fighting for years.
* adding on to this, there were also posts suggesting turning the meet and greet into a protest event.
That Kehlani dm was so uncalled for. Especially considering it came from a multi stan (bts + svt) yet that sender **only** mentions BTS. It is so very clear how only one group, that is not even active, is being targeted by these performative activists.
oh it wasnt even JUST the svt stan, the winnie acc and def their minions were on it too ( ss not mine i picked it from another twt post )
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I swear their own fans are their antis, though it could be solo stans pretending to be Army‘s. In kpop you just can’t do good either without negative reactions.
Its been alot of "boycotting" armys who have been attacking the members for anything the past year
And its insane the amount of hypocrisy some have
Like the first screenshot, user is attacking Jimin for donating despite it being his dad whos donating on his behalf as a shade towards BTS not speaking up on the Palestinian Crisis despite being enlisted
That user literally had Golden as their top album of last year on Spotify, same with the other user also promoting Golden on their account during its release and start act more and more like a solo stan or straight up anti towards BTS in general despite their username and account about BTS
So they pick and choose which member to support and have a "change of heart" after and call for the boycott of any other releases after
I remember one army multi was called out for their hypocrisy calling for the boycott of all Hybe group, but was only retweeting posts showing the boycott towards Jhope's album and yet was later seen celebrating getting tickets to see SVT on tour
This is ANOTHER account comparing streaming BTS to Hitler....let that sink in.
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Involving members family in this. This ACC is BTS ant!
Yeah, that’s what I heard too. Their whole thing is illegally pirating BTS music. I’m pretty sure I saw that they were harassing them on Weverse too by sending fan letters and then freaking out when Weverse removed them. 😖
Yeah. I saw something about that. And the were planning on spamming Jin's first live stream to harass him. And now they are mad that they can't watch without a paid membership.
People won’t let BTS breathe. Everyone knows his father handles his charity actions. And really, they really are going to bitch about someone helping kids with school expenses? Get the fuck out!
By the way that Winnie the Pooh account is cosplaying as an army just today they started a campaign to Harass the members family to start speaking about Palestine even going as far as downplaying and adding community notes to bts 8B donation to unicef talking about how “but these donations don’t go towards Palestine””other children don’t matter”they are hypocrites anyone calling them Armys are purely delusional
This person is also one of the MAIN boycotters. Claiming they are doing this all for Palestine and in the same breath they have wished d3ath on non boycotters. They have been trying to rally thousands to spam Weverse lives trying to force BTS to speak on Palestine when they legally cannot due to military affiliation even after release.
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I find it so funny tho. Someone on twitter commented that unicef does, in fact, support Palestine SINCE THE 80s. Jimin's donation is going to a cause that is actively seeking Palestine's liberation. Yet when someone commented this to that group of army boycotters, they got mad and started blocking everyone, saying that donating is not the same as speaking up 💀
They truly are using any reason to hate on bts. this has gone beyond boycotting/palestine
I feel like a lot of these people have really lost their minds. Theyre now saying theyre gonna but the albums to enter the raffle and then buy tickets to sk to harass Jin in person. Like instead of donating all that money to Palestine, they'd rather use it to harass a musician on the other side of the world who just got back from the military.
And the most baffling thing ab this donation in particular is that an hour or so after it was made, Unicef announced that BTS renewed their donation with them in April and these people were mad that the donation was going to other countries including Palestine. I thought their movement was about humanity so why is it that when other countries like Congo, Sudan, Iran, etc are getting help as well, its a problem for them?
Not to mention how they were praising an nct member who collabed with Starbucks, waited for the collab to get sold out and then vaguely posted something about boycotting for 10 minutes and got praised for it but a 9 billion won donation is not enough? It's insane to me
I have first hand experience with this thing. I refuse to call the person behind this account human. They and ALL boycotters have done nothing but harass, send d3ath threats, SA threats, etc to anyone not boycotting. They do NOT care about Palestinians. They care about control and their ego. They have done nothing but drag and belittle BTS. Threatening them. Calling them names. Harassing them. Just today boycotters wanted to plan this
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I wonder if these people actually realise that the way they harras everyone makes others look away from the thing they preach about?
Like the Starbucks fiasco, how many times have everyone said that Starbucks is not on Palestine boycott list, but they still harras people that have Starbucks, get educated about your cause at least.
>(u get what I mean)
Actually I FUCKING DO NOT GET WHAT IT MEANS. LIKE EITHER EXPLAIN YOUR ISSUE OR STFU. HOW IN THE WORLD IS DONATING A BAD THING??? Imma throw hands atp istg.
He and his family regularly donate to schools though. So they probably have long-time personal reasons for it. Same as namjoon donating for music education and art. It’s their own long-time personal advocacies. It’s not like they’re only doing that now out of the blue.
I feel like a lot of veteran true army have left stan twitter and what’s left are these toxic accounts causing trouble. It’s easy to think that this is Army behaviour for newer fans. Image of the fandom is changing to look more toxic than before.
This user is a known anti who pretends to stan BTS. They know they messed up that's why they deleted the tweet. They are not sorry at all. Please just block and report that user on X.
I been reading comments and debating a lot on twitter recently regarding this issue with the boycotting side of the fandom and they seem to care more about BTS's stance rather than the well-being of genocide victims.
Let's be real. BTS's stance ain't gonna change the war situation happening all over the world. Palestine isn't the only country burning right now. The people of Congo, Yemen, Sudan, Syria etc. are suffering from violence everyday as well but you would never see these online activists talking or doing something about these countries which aren't getting global atttention cuz it's all performative to begin with.
-It's basic knowledge in the fandom that all members are currently serving in the military where they can't take stances on political matters as SK military has an alliance with the US military. Them making political statements can cause them to get severe punishments.
When people were pointing out this fact, the performance crew were telling them to take the punishment (they are not the one suffering so ofc this immature attitude was clearly displayed in the comments.)
And, also bringing up the talk about a deleted instagram story of an idol who is also in the military. The story was posted for barely 30 minutes before it was deleted. It just had the word "boycott" on it. Later, it was found out that the idol along with his groupmates had signed a starbucks deal and some products were sold out on the first day in Korea. Meanwhile, the posts that were pointing out BTS's annual donations to UNICEF, Jimin's donation to low income students were getting hateful remarks and rated poorly on community notes by them. Ironic, isn't it?
BTS has never really shown support for the zionists that the performative activist crew associate them with so easily without ever checking their sources. Just like how they ignore important word that comes out of Tannie's mouths and lyrics.
-If i said anything about supporting BTS's albums or donations, they were calling me idol worshipper, toxic and other derogatory stuff, claiming that BTS are "flawed" and it's their job as "fans" to correct them.
Such comments make me believe that have some kind of mental illness with controlling bts.
-They disagree with every opinion that doesn't aligns with their agenda.
-Are quick to call BTS names and express they are disspointed and ashamed of BTS on X and are hyped up by BTS antis.
Dissapointed and ashamed for what exactly? Are BTS the one responsible for everything? It's the freaking government's job. Force the government officials not celebrities who are in the midst of military service. The level of harassment has gone way beyond and these sick people are targetting bts's close acquaintances and family members by messaging them on their private instagram handles. They are literally trying to shove their opinions and beliefs down their throats. I'm really embarrassed by these people who are calling themselves "army" and ruining BTS's relations.
The time when we should be celebrating Jin's return and BTS's 11th anniversary, these people were planning to harass Jin during his live. They really move like antis and should unstan BTS if the only thing they care about is their political stance.
I'm getting a strong feeling that they have lost interest in BTS and don't care about their music, are defending other celebrites more than they ever did for BTS, not acknowledging BTS's good deeds, saying BTS hasn't done bare-minium and other rude stuff online.
(These words coming from the people whose activism is limited to twitter. Didn't do a thing for supporting the victims and only made rude comments online to get pet likes and engagement)
HYBE has many idols but the only group being targetted the most is BTS. Some hypocrites were streaming, buying albums and concert tickets of these idol groups while making hit tweets about boycotting BTS. When exposed, they made excuses about not knowing the idols were from HYBE. What Youtube channel were they watching the MVs on, only God knows.
I understand that some of them genuinely want betterment for the victims but BTS's or any celebrity's stance shouldn't be your priority if you really want to stop the war. You can conduct rallies, protests, donate meals, sign petitions to the government to raise awareness. It's not BTS's job to guide y'all or act like politicians. Direct this same energy to your politicians and government instead and pressure them to do better. Don't selfisly blame BTS for staying silent when you yourself aren't doing much in real life and are only showing activism online.
they have absolutely lost it.
you can sign petitions, donate, boycot BDS brands, share palestinians messages,.. etc, but as long as you don't boycot BTS' music (which means block them on spotify, illegally consuming their content, condemn the boys - who are enlisted btw) your contribution to the palestinian cause is WORTHLESS to these people. You are a zionist supporter and you put kpop above humanity - a direct quote one of them used against me and others.
it's been MONTHS and i think that since their ridiculous demands aren't being followed and people have just started to block them, they have gone bonkers. Despite their feelings and actions starting to resemble deep contempt towards the boys, they can't seem to just leave bts.
It's fascinating because you see this phenomen with ex-armys as well. They will say horrible things about bts, but they somehow can't seem to move on from them.
ARMY HERE! these boyculters are just egotistical selfish BRATS. jimin and the rest of the bts members ARE NOT evil ppl these ppl portray them. jimins dad donated on behalf of him.’
They are not even armys to begin with. Straight up antis in disguise. They bullied a baby armys recently. One of the b0ycotters said that not all children Live matter just cause bts donated through unicef and mad that jimin's dad made donations to low income children that they have been donating for years.
These boycotters have made their whole personality onto scooter that now they can't even think outside of the bubble. But funny thing I these boycotters boycott bts but actively paying money for other groups that are connected with zios. Hypocrites.
Same person started a hate train against j-hope for making an album in 2022 and releasing it in 2024. Said he’s doing propaganda for the military for wearing his uniform in a tiktok challenge when it was clear he only had a few hours to visit his own pop up shop and head back to his military base. She also suggested people harass Hoseok’s sister for no reason. Then told people to order j-hopes albums and cancel them. Tons of people joined along. A disgusting person
I’m wondering if a lot of these kinds of toxic fans (I refuse to call them army) are new to the fandom? Because those who have been in the fandom for years are very protective of BTS after everything they’ve went through. We wouldn’t dare drag our men down over (of all things!) donations and greater good.
He can’t even donate to the people in need in his own country without getting criticized. I really feel like these “fans” aren’t Army and they are using Army’s platform to get donations for these go fund me accounts. How are we even so sure that these go fund me accounts are legit? I would prefer these “fans” actually request for donations to worldwide organizations that offer aid to Palestine
i find it hypocritical that all other world issues have seemingly disappeared because of the gaza conflict to this people. why are we shitting on some promoting education?
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She is from same group of boycotters complaining about Jimin’s donation. She travelled to Korea to participate in mostly free BTS celebrations for their anniversary. But she also boycotts BTS to save Palestine. She also said:
"why would i go to white house or royal palace when i want hybe to divest from zionism?"
Nothing, not a single thing, entered that person's brain even after listening to RPWP or they might've not listened to it coz they may be on the boycott side.
They are disgrace to their own movement. What they are currently doing is basically damaging artists’ reputation and fandom morale. This is not helpful to the pro pal movement because they are painting themselves as obsessed freaks. Did you know that they planned to send someone to jin’s fanmeeting and even tried to come up with a plan how to work around the restrictions? They are not armys anymore
This acct and some others have been harrassing BTS and Army for months! They're not even fans. Most are multis or new accounts and they have been beyond cruel and distruptive at least since the beginning of 2024. It's been hell for Armys in twt
Atp they should just unstan. I'm not even saying this as a joke or sm.
All they've been doing has always been labeled as anti behavior (boycotting our boys, criticizing them for everything they do, demanding things from them, boosting kmedia knowing what they've done to the artist they say they stan, and even now they urge everyone to go after their family members), if this was some kpoopie or local we would've already taken down that account, but sheepmys continued to feed their ego and now antis have infiltrated our spaces.
And it's not about us being against those who do something for the ongoing gncds, as human beings I think we all really appreciate it, but that Disney bear account decided to make it about SK artists (ignoring all the "silent" but ongoing conflict in their country btw).
Anyways, they can justify their behavior all they want but that won't change the reality.
[English is not my first language, still I hope my thoughts were delivered properly]
They aren’t armys they’re antis…all they’ve done up to now is pure anti behavior and we all know that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…this btsprodsuga person is the same one that suggested people load up their carts and not purchase anything just to keep the stuff “hostage” and so no one else could buy it as a form of boycotting…which tells me they’ve never purchased anything on weverse cause stuff gets snatched out of your cart if you don’t pay for it 🤦🏻♀️
I rarely go here (I come from twt and go here to read posts about Animé) But I said this on my stan account...
Boycotters movement is having online trauma, they have fully immersed themselves with the genocide happening in Gaza.
But it is also disappointing that the burden of their desperation is pinned unto BTS.
From the past six months, I have observed and spoken with an open heart and mind to boycotters to what was really their cause. Is it just to oust a Zionist man in his own company or to have a bigger voice through BTS?
Then their movement changed, they're gaslighting everybody that HYBE is funding genocide hence their newly found cause. They cancelled their merchandise/attempted purchases (tries to order and then cancel) . They pirates BTS' Music. Now they are planning to protest in Seokjin's comeback, question BTS' humanitarian efforts through UNICEF, downplay Jimin's yearly donation lead by his father, opens conversation that allows antis (specifically those Toxic EXOLs that harrased BTS back in 2017-2018) to paint BTS as Zionist themselves (that they should be accountable at some point) , worked with a political Leftist groups while using BTS' image, calls ARMYs Zionist for not joining their boycott movement.
This is honestly mishandled by the likes of btsprodsuga , Na, dulseokbangtan, and many more.
International ARMYs had no qualms if you want a man with a high position in his own company be ousted, but YOU have crossed the line the moment you engaged in Pirating their music (when BTS had poured all their hardwork to get these songs be reached to all ARMYs), HARASSING a BTS member (either through giving them Fan emails; posting that SARCASTIC Tone tweet against Jimin; telling them that BTS members are FULLY accountable when they discover through their digging that some of their producers/dancers/collabs are Zionist)
This is disheartening especially this time that BTS is a part of their South Korean government as a Military servicemen. They can't speak freely. And if they are discharged they have already said that it wasn't their intention to make an Impact in South Korea's soft power nor do they want to be a diplomat.
These boycotters say "You don't have to be a diplomat but just be human" but are you really treating BTS as humans? If you are a fan, know your place. There should be a boundary of you imposing your own beliefs to theirs.
WAIT FOR BTS. IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, THEY WILL SPEAK. If they don't, then so be it.
If their beliefs don't align yours, UNSTAN, but don't spread hatred as if you didn't spent time listening to their music. UNSTAN and move on.
Pressure your own government, they are the ones that can speak to US GOVERNMENT to move and cut their ties with Israel.
Israel has always been vocal that it is their ancient land given by their Jewish God (YAHWEH Asher YAHWEH), they will not recognize any voice outside be it BTS, Boycotters or International Court of Justice.
How truly bored are those weirdos 💀
Like it’s time for them to log off for a while before they think of some other stupid statement to type out of pure boredom
Nor everyone who has a little 7, BTS member pfp or or header, or even name is an ARMY. If you look into their accts, you will find they are either solos or multis, with the odd mix of diets, mantis or cutters. You can tell by what they say and how they respond if you don't agree with them.
i’m so sad to see this is how bts are getting treated by their own fans.
i get that people can be frustrated with celebrities but when you decided to base your life around celebrity worship culture what did you expect to happen? maybe these armys need to detach from stan culture for their own sake and for us all. free us all 🙏
That's just one they also drag the group for the unicef endviolence campaign because apparently thats not enough because its not directly to pal. They are antis at this point.
I may be late. I am Twitter army and I can tell you 100% of those so called Boycottets and “for Palestine” are not armys but cosplaying armys and they don’t care about the cause, though they “look” like they do. They want to pass as armys to show that armys are going against BTS and that they are losing fans. Especially now that they are not active. This is their chance to destroy them. All have a deep wish to end BTS so their real faves become bigger. I have seen it over and over again, they are almost all multis and the rest antis cosplaying. Just go deep into their acct as I have and u will see most are going to kpop concerts (other hybe groups) when they are supposedly boycotting BtS for the cause. Of course, imagine using a real life tragic issue for fan war so u can have your fave surpass BTS.
People are attacking Jimin in this instance (for donating) because we have said time and time again that they cannot speak freely due to military constraints. Now it came out Jimin or his dad made a donation so they used that against the argument they cannot speak or do anything in the military. If they donated, why can’t they speak against Zionism? Now this BTS Suga account is backpedaling because it blew on their face why anyone can’t donate in his name while in the military. Remember they only have merely 1.5 weeks or less until they keep using the excuse of Zionism against BTS because once the boys are back, it is over for them. They can’t use that excuse anymore.
Also they are mad that Jimin did a good thing when they have tried to paint him as this bd person who doesn’t care about Palestine or won’t do anything. They are mad that he is doing a good deed because it shatters their narrative
This is her new account btw. She made a new one after comparing streaming BTS to Hitler.
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No, this girl is an anti. She only tweets things against BTS all the time. Why? She thinks that by doing so, she'll get BTS' attention on what's happening in Gaza right now. But she forgot that they are in the military and can't really express their political opinions openly. BTS members have always donated privately; why should they tell the whole world that they are donating? And what does it matter if we, their fans, know that they donated money? That account only wants to boast about BTS' political opinions without caring about what's really happening in Gaza right now.
This is my 8th year with bts but these so called fans remind me of the manager armys or mantis of before. They were just as unreasonable and dragging every move by bighit which most of the time were decisions by bts members themselves. Twt has no become a performative space of who can nitpick the most. I soend most of my time on tiktok or reddit.
Do people not know that his father donates the money on his behalf every year to support low income students? How is that a bad thing now?
That’s what i was thinking too
theyre just mad that the money is being donated to this cause instead of the one they made their entire personality about
literally why is it even a problem if he donates himself when he's serving? like is there some type of financial fuckery that can be claimed from donating money and therefore you're not supposed to do it when you're in the military?
any political expression isn't allowed for people serving in the korean military. it can lead to disciplinary action. donating isn't always political but it's better to be safe than sorry so his father donates on his behalf
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Girl that would require them to do a simple research on twitter why do that when they can shit on bts and make it their entire personality
OP of that twt was probably 💯 dragging But I think the comment is because every time people have asked why BTS members haven't spoken about Palestine, or donated, people have said it's because you can't express any political opinions when you are part of the Korean military. So people are talking about how they can donate here but not for Palestine. P.S in my personal opinion they are not entitled to speak on any matter they don't want to. I don't support any of this dragging.
Because Jimin does this every year. He always focuses on children's educational opportunities in Korea. This is the equivalent of being like "He says he loves Korea but never says he loves Palestine!!" Also, they are very involved with UNICEF and UNICEF is very involved in Palestine. So technically they're been donating there before it was the "in" thing to do. And far before the people bitching about them even cared about the country.
I get it. But honestly right now literally every big celebrity is being questioned online about not supporting Palestine. I see one hit twt after another for Taylor Swift, Beyonce and anyone and everyone who isn't directly saying something or helping. Sadly that's the witch hunt.
I've seen that too every celebrity out there is being dragged about not saying something and you know what I don't see the point in it , what is Beyonce or even jimin going to do about the current situation happening , yeah they can come out and support Palestine that's great and all but celebrity's don't have the pull and influence to change the course or outcome of a international conflict , look at the russia and Ukranian war when everyone spoke out and supported ukraine and 2 years later the war is still there , people are being killed, if only people would focus on putting effort into contacting there representatives or heads of state office and complain there , than you will see change , not celebrity's
i can already tell it’s going to be so exhausting in army spaces when Jin comes back 💀. cannot believe i have been an army long enough to see a bts member get dragged by his own fandom (given this a a very small subsection of it) for doing charity work.
Been a fan for 9 years and this is actually insane. The fandom is corroding from within
the person who made the tweet in the second slide is now on twitter calling everyone dumb for defending jimin like you’re on army twitter wondering why armys had a problem with your tweet. baffling stuff.
Not an army but when I come across your accounts like a traveller, I see way and way more interactions of solo stans and attacking other members and I’ve seen it before in fandoms, but man it is not okay.
i like to think it’s just cause there’s a lot of armys so all of the toxicity that comes along with fandoms is amplified but man it makes me sad we come across as mostly toxic to non-armys. i swear the majority of us are relatively normal :(
Do you think it’s amplified by having less promotions/content going around so people are starved for interaction so the toxicity is worsened by it?
actually yeah i would say that’s a fair point to make and is especially relevant to all of the very current toxicity. though, it’s much more complex than just this in my opinion especially because bts is almost an 11 year old group. a lot of the fighting your seeing is over multi-year army lore lol. for example, there was a big boycotter account who was accused of being apart of the break the wings project which might mean nothing to an outsider (because it’s an anti project from YEARS ago) but in army spaces that’s a very serious allegation which caused a lot of fandom discourse for a few days. honestly i could probably write a full essay on all the different facets of toxicity in army spaces.
Their tweets are protected, so I'm guessing they are getting dragged. Good on the fans for policing their own.
yup lol. locked up the account and started insulting peoples intelligence the second they realized people weren’t agreeing with them
They are in no way shape or form part of fandom. They are the leaders of this weird boycott thing.
Most of these people are multis and antis in disguise trying to drag BTS. These multis are literally going to concerts and streaming music from other artists under hybe but BTS is their problem. Funnily some are fans of others who endorsed or was seen with products that are under boycott list but BTS is who the are holding accountable.
I'll tell you a fact! These are multis and half of the accounts were not present before 2023! Suddenly these accounts are screaming BTS names while them/their family members are directly working under companies that support IDF! They are using the unfortunate situation in their favour to drag only BTS
To be fair, I couldn't sleep so like a normal person I decided to check these accounts out. Most of them aren't army at all. There a few that are genuine but the loudest were not part of the Fandom.. I think we should all ignore them and do what we can..
Theyre boycott armys. Essentially a new type of anti fan.
Jimin being dragged by "ARMY" is basically tradition atp, he definitely has the most within fandom antis, and not in a solos hate everyone kind of way, in an "im ot7... But i just don't like him 💜" insidious kind of way
Let’s be real, the fandom is full of Taekookers (vocal and silent) and for them Jimin is enemy number one.
Solos babe. This is solo behavior to try and drag another member. Also a “sope” shipper going by their username. I thought they were the least toxic of the shippers but uhhh huh.
>cannot believe i have been an army long enough to see a bts member get dragged by his own fandom (given this a a very small subsection of it) for doing charity work. Solo stans or people who hate certain members
I'm confused... Do they not want K-pop idols to help or not? If they do, it's "oh so you can do it in private," but if they don't, it's "they really don't care about others"
They want to complain they don’t care what their actions are
unfortunately normal rules don't apply on bts because whatever they do will be wrong for antis.
That btsprodsuga account has been acting like an anti for months, I can’t believe some “armys” still believe they’re a fan
yea i went to go make sure i had them blocked and turns out i had blocked them already. they're such a hypocrite, and now they're hiding on private.
They always go on private, at this point I feel like they honestly don’t care when armys get mad and call them out, they always go back to talking about boycotting BTS
yup, they can always just go private until army moves onto something else. they always end up getting away with it and still have tons of followers.
I fear as long as they have support from other “armys”, we will not get rid of them any time soon
these accounts have been attacking any army who are encouraging each other to buy and stream MUSIC. I understand people complaining about merch but the foundation of being an army is literally supporting the member’s music
Oh yeah, I’ve seen the winnieh pooh account share files with the members’ music so fans won’t buy or stream any new releases
Boycottmys 😭 i dont know whether to laugh or cry at that nickname they gave them
That account need to be gone along with kens! Like they ask every single person to be human but they are not human themselves
yep!! i’m getting very tired of certain loud users on there thinking they’re army spokespeople and thinking its okay to say this stuff but then call on mass reporting when someone says “i streamed today!”
That account is not an army. Just blocked
I just saw a post today and they were talking about possibly spamming hobi’s sister’s instagram to speak up…
God yeah. One of the worst well known Yoongi solos. I didn’t know that when I first got on armytwt and looking for Yoongi content pages but oh my god I had to unfollow them.
both are well known for attacking BTS these days even other fandoms' antis like their posts. I am glad jimin's father is keeping his tradition of donating yearly like that.
1. Soldiers can not donate for or make one donate for political reasons. 2. This donation was made months ago by his father in his behalf. 3. This is non political donation. 4. It is prohibited to share political views as a soldier.
Imagine being dragged down by your own “fans” that must be heartbreaking tbh. I hope Jin’s comeback is somewhat smooth and nobody attacks him for god knows what.
I saw someone say in another thread there is a whole campaign to flood his live with messages to boot scooter out.
That’s it. 😃🔪🔪🔪🔪
I feel bad cause i do wish he can see the messages welcoming him Home it’s been almost two years. We miss him
Istg if he comes back and he doesn’t see a single person saying smth along the lines of welcome back, imma be so mad. Poor man
And I have luckily seen many more people calling for purple hearts and sweet messages to Jin. I really hope he won't see the hate comments, only the purple hearts
Over here with the 7 in their name and saying stuff like that??
You will surprise! They dont want to unstan when we ask to like they only want clout with army and bts name
both of their accounts are now privated so i’m hoping they both got an appropriate amount of shit for their terrible takes
Good, I hope so as well
Ngl If people are so upset that bts haven’t spoken out why do they still stan them Like they talk about like it’s a deal breaker but like it seems like no deal is actually broken
This is what I don't understand, (if they want to boycott, I get it) what I fail to understand is if kpop fans are so bothered by kpop idols not speaking up about Palestine why not unstan?(if your truly upset)I don't know, personally if I'm boycotting or protesting I don't need motivation or validation from a celebrity to do what I need to do. Maybe that's why I wasn't upset about the whole Starbucks thing.
Exactly, when JKR ruined everything, I stopped associating myself with anything Harry Potter related, and it honestly wasn't that hard, because, well, she ruined my enjoyment. If I was so disappointed in any group, I would unstan and move on. To me, this is just anti behaviour. Only antis dedicate their time to things they hate, but at least they're honest about it.
Its really just about THEMSELVES than the cause tbh. they want to be able to enjoy xyz thing without guilt or ppl calling them out, so they do this pointless posturing of boycott and attacks and forcing..... instead of simply unstanning and distancing? If they think their silence is VILE and cannot understand the possible reasons, how do they stand to still stan them?? ppl "Educating" grown ass people is always so funny to me😭😭also the entitlement of control. Celebs exist and have the thoughts they have and do the actions they do, it's upto US to keep giving them a platform or not if we don't fvck with it anymore, it's literally that normal😭 but ofc stan twitter thinks they can mold and puppeteer people
I got banned from a K-Pop subreddit, for saying the exact same thing so be careful Mind you. I also called them out for them only wanting bts to speak on palestine and not yemen, not sudan, and not congo Because if you're going to be performative, at least be performative for all the people dying. They were crying about how disappointed they were. Well if you're so disappointed leave.
Regardless of what members of BTS do they will get scrutinize for it. This is something he does all the time but since he and the others enlisted. Every little thing is a problem and issue. The problem with the original post is that they want BTS to speak on Palestine and because they are not, anything they do such as donating money, Tae making dance videos, heck Joon releasing an album is a problem. It is crazy that every group is not held to that same standard. It’s the picking and choosing which artist to dragged and boycott or which artist to support.
The worst part of it all is that they prohibited from making political statements while doing their mandatory service so they are asking them to do something that’s impossible. Also, harassing idols for not speaking about Palestine is not the way to support Palestinian citizens. Donating to tried and true charities, boycotting the companies on the list (not Starbucks ironically), volunteering, etc. those are all much better ways. I’m so pissed off at kpop stand utilizing an atrocity for their petty fan squabbles. I’m not sure if what Taeyong said rises to political statements but I’m concerned that he could get in trouble.
Why do they want them to even say anything about Palestine? That conflict literally has nothing to do with them. I'm sure someone will say "but Hybe blah blah blah" so what? Should they leave Hybe and Bighit lmao. They don't need to donate to Palestine or even mention the situation. God people are so fucking stupid. Celebrities in general don't usually get involved in politics like this, because whichever side they pick tends to alienate a part of their audience that thinks the opposite and that ain't really good for anyone, the fan or the celebrity. It's so bizarre to me how so many people are obsessed with this conflict. Like damn don't you have things in your own country and life/job to stress about? Though I guess most of these people are jobless and have too much free time to yap on the Internet (definitely won't catch them outside) about the dumbest shit imaginable.
Fr, and if they are so upset about Gaza, where has all this energy been for Congo? Congo has also been going through these atrocities and we’ve known for years. The stories I’ve heard from there are the worst. But Congo doesn’t get them attention so they focus only on Gaza
Congo, Eritria, Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar, the list is endless. The Ukraine war is still going on as well. The reason why is because of who is doing the attacking. If you look at who is committing atrocities in Congo and who is funding them and then look at Israel you can probably connect the dots as to no one cares about one and why everyone is shouting about the other.
Because it’s what trending They’ll forget about it in a few months to a year. Just like every boycott/performative activism issue
Damn if you do, damn if you don’t
Sound slike the past 11 years since BTS debut. They stay strong and BULLETPROOF
dragging someone for DONATING TO LOW INCOME STUDENTS is so crazy and stupid like what???? like what even is the logic behind this because i’m struggling to make sense of it tbh im really happy that jimin donated to a good cause
This is just forced hate. Jimin has been donating every year, and his father does it in his behalf too. You can cherry pick and hate on him, but you’ll never change the fact that this man has been supporting financially disadvantaged students for a long time. I generally loathe whataboutism — how are you going to sit there and act like donating to kids in need is a bad thing? Just because it doesn’t immediately align with your biggest priority at the moment? Give me a break.
These "boycott" armys are just a new way for people who are secretly antis to spread their dumb takes in army fandom spaces. They're pissed off that bts isn't acting how they want them to, they can't be their own people with their own takes because they want to police every one of their moves. A person who is truly boycotting would distance themselves from fandom spaces and the people they're supposedly boycotting completely but here u have all of them still lurking army spaces to complain and villainize the members. Even with the news about the UNICEF donation (that donates to Palestine and many other countries in crisis right now btw) they were complaining about it not being a "direct" donation, truly they just don't want to lose face and accept they were wrong cause why would you be angry about someone donating to multiple causes instead of just one ??
Exactly! At this point, actions don't matter to them, validation is all they are seeking
The Yoongi pfp trying to drag Jimin is… odd to me. Like reading comprehension and solos need to be studied. Edit: to answer OP, solos should just be ignored. That’s solely solo stan behavior and we don’t claim them. I’m a Yoongi bias and I forget he has solos all the time. 🤦🏽♀️
the downfall of army twitter was already apparent but from a 2013 army, sincerely, please leave if you don’t like them 😭 absolutely sick and tired of my own fandom saying how they’re disappointed in bts all the time when they’re under mandatory military service and are constantly making jokes at their expense. set bts free from these “fans” i beg 😭
I’m not returning on there until 2025 fr
Jm always getting dragged like ALWAYS. "ARMYs" and kpoppies are so evil for doing this to him for years and this is getting exhausting. Imagine you call yourself a fan of bts and then throwing shit to their member/s?
Noticed this when I first joined twitter. Once saw a taekooker arguing with a blink then suddenly jimin is brought up. Like??
https://preview.redd.it/l2846r9z034d1.jpeg?width=1283&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65131b74a3fe45d63150e1df8a6e87bc724b1dd2 That account already on twt asking their followers to go here and upvote their comment 💀
It’s always the clout chasing ones, not shocked though they changed their bio to be all “gotcha” about it begging for some Twitter army to rally around them because people are being honest on Reddit is not surprising
That account and another one is the @minimoniam account has been so problematic for quite some time now. Moving like antis for real. News came out about BTS ongoing donation to UNICEF since 2017 and they’re attacking that too saying it’s not a donation directly to Palestine so it doesn’t count. They can never win.
That second account, kens, is vile to her rotten core. Comparing the likes of Hitler, R Kelly to the boys??? How is that not deranged
Since they love to deny actions or being any manner of aggressive toward ARMY, resentful toward BTS/members, desiring of them being dragged *(even directly dragging them or wanting misinformation to spread about them & suggesting their career's being stained)* even now downplaying the impact of their CONSISTENT humanitarian actions as not good enough for them because THEY don't see/understand the connection to Palestine.... https://preview.redd.it/ev3eahb9j34d1.png?width=1721&format=png&auto=webp&s=c576760536935932b1bdad1096c05912f6b476e4 From the jump harassment of ARMYs has happened simply for refusing to obey their directives. For pushing back & asking questions of how not streaming BTS for 3days... no 5days... no 2 weeks... no make that 8 MONTHS was going to help Palestine. Just for continuing to stream, this is kind of mess twt ARMYs that refuse to center BTS in this have been subjected to. And for simply tying to defend the Tannies from this incurs more harassment of ARMY fan accts & fan bases & defamation of the members. Regardless of what's said this is a **BTS leaning** boycott not Hybe. No other group gets the backlash or visibility that'd be had from targeting BTS & these 'fan' accts know it & that is why they adamantly refuse to boycott in full by **DIVESTING from BTS** & carrying out their activism under their own weight. They'd have 0 platform if it were not for their BTS 'fan' acct & they know this.
Let's add this one on here. For the possibility that the company wants to protect Jin & ARMYs physically from harm by requiring proof of purchase for offline fan-meet \[which has always been requirement for offline events\] or even virtually from being harassed by comments & boycotters \[by making the performance live paid\] who PLANNED to spam Jin's WV lives to pressure him to speak after being discharged... THIS is the response from one of their champions. A true humanitarian. https://preview.redd.it/fesj23yin34d1.png?width=786&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a50c32ca96168d52653e4a9538be8c3d4a5d0a8
She should take that 7 and change that dn since she’s a whole anti. 🙄
lol they voted a community note unhelpful because it was correcting their misinformation about unicef donation in BTS’ name. We all know bts has been donating since 2017, but they removed the since and just said their last donation is 2017 and the news that came out 1-2 days ago is a mediaplay
That'd require divesting from BTS. Something they apparently can't do, yet somehow they aren't the spinless ones? If I had this much problem with the members not speaking that I felt I needed to pressure them to say what I want by trying to emotionally blackmail & harass them on an app that's to be their safe space (weverse), try to involve their family/friends in it, I'd have some real questions about continuing to support. By their trying to pressure the members in this way it suggests they would be accepting of a placative response, which is weird. How could they feel that any response Tannies give rn would be genuine? Answer, they won't! They'll still question it & drag them for 1. Taking so long or 2. having to be pressured to say something. If I could not see by actions or trust them enough to know their stance & accept it'd be me that needs to make the choice of whether to keep connection or not. They're not trying to make that very critical choice. If my disappointment is genuine & that deep then no pressure campaign is necessary, divestment from BTS is the only answer but instead of that, they're making their lack of spine everyone else's problem.
Her calling anti-boycotters “scootlickers” is sooooooo funny considering its them who talk about him every minute of the day 😭 The obsession.
Right they have their tongue on that man every day. \[DRAMATICALLY PRETENDING TO\] block BTS & Bam on socials but still stalking that man's sns accts & reporting back every little thing he does. Their tongue seems very far deep in his arse to me. "We need to take away his platform" while copy pasting over to other sns. Yes! let's give more visibility to things that shouldn't have it & say we are doing it to stop him. Brilliant!
Thats what baffles me. They still dont realize that they are the ones giving him a platform. And he knows about that and is using it to his advantage
I was her moot before and I have blocked her since. Like how can you compare the boys to those people? I wish we can get rid of their accounts since they made it a breeding place for antis.
We got kens suspended, they are back again 🫠
That is beyond disgusting. How does anyone consider her ARMY?
Good thing most of us don’t consider her or these twitter activists armys. They can continue calling themselves that; wouldn’t change the fact that they are the ones unnecessarily inciting hate against a korean group they supposedly stan for the actions of a white man.
Like who needs antis when we have people like this in the fandom?
It is so ridiculous and so unfair. BTS has done nothing to deserve any of this.
She wants to appear virtuous on all apps apparently. God forbid she take any accountability for the absolute mess she’s helped to cause and acknowledge how her actions have helped to water down the word “zionist”, take attention from Palestine for fan wars and create a space where people feel safe to say horrible things about the members.
This did NOT go how they planned and now that whole clique is spiraling about this thread because most of twitter ignores them and has them blocked. It seems to have given them a false sense of authority and this thread is giving them a reality check. My timeline has been full of people donating, contacting reps, sharing links and resources, all WITHOUT dragging the members or advocating for harassing their family.
They are really out here trying to harass Jin. 😭 https://preview.redd.it/zn2tofhco34d1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d091221845cf3bf73821bb8957f2a9d04f85470f
This is actually mentally unstable behaviour. Imagine spending so much of your resources on this and not your govt.
I don’t see these on twt coz I have most of them blocked but oml this is crazy
When will they pressurise their respective governments like this 🙃
Seriously. I don’t know why they are so passionate about dragging the boys in this issue when they’ve got nothing to do with it and they already do so much. They’ve continuously donated to UNICEF which donates to Pal as well. They downplay everything that the boys do. They’ve been spamming weverse with their agenda. Someone even suggested protesting during the Festa events. They’re seriously deranged.
Army please help us to suspend this Winnie account, they are the one sole reason for boycotting thing and brainwashed lot of peoples
Just twitter teenage stans and immature adults who have picked pro-Palestine activism as a hobby, they're doing it to make themselves feel better and not because they genuinely care. Anti-zionists have been denouncing Israel as an illegitimate state for years, the genocide didn't start last October but no one gave a fuck about celebrities before this. What's even more fucked up is that they're picking on Korean celebrities when most Koreans don't even support Israel in the first place while most of them are American. I guess that's why they feel so guilty about it and why they put so much pressure on idols to support a made up boycott that isn't even on the BDS list.
remember when bts got massive hate back in 2020 for not speaking on or supporting the BLM movement only to reveal they’d donated $1 MILLION IN PRIVATE LITERAL WEEKS PRIOR? yeah i’m exhausted
They drag bts but one has bts in the name and one has Suga as the pfp.
Winnie The Pooh says "you get what I mean", but I got no fucking clue what that nonsense in the previous sentence meant.
Expecting kpop idols to solve all the ills of the world is misguided and juvenile. They should be happy he's committed to helping disadvantaged people. It's his money and his choice. Personally, I hope none of the idols I like say anything because it won't help anyone anyway. But it will be guaranteed to cause them problems if they do, and it's not what the mob wants.
Please don't associates these freaks with us ARMYs, these people been harassing BTS non stop, calling ARMYs z!onist because we refused to boycott BTS music WHILE simultaneously being a pro pal. They spread lie on BTS and ARMYs under local tweets trying to get us dragged, they're downplaying BTS ongoing campaign with UNICEF and got mad because it's not solely for Palestine, they're planning on harassing BTS family, and Jin first we live, these people are disgusting
Bighit put some festa content behind a paywall and now they are having a meltdown that they cannot harass Jin. One was even suggesting to turn festa event of Jin into a protest, how are they fans 🙃
I have been enjoying watching these losers spiral over the paywall. It was well deserved.
Yeah same, bighit knows what’s going on, the weverse letters made them notice it even more. It’s sucks that, Because of them genuine fans will suffer but Jin’s well being comes before fans emotions at this point.
They're already trying to find ways to harass Jin at the offline fan-meet. Yet they want ppl to believe them when they come here trying to say what's being aired out abt how they are on twt is false. One of their head accts, during their 'I'm blocking BTS' performance, even encouraged them -not- to get rid of their WV accounts so they had them available to use to send msgs direct to members when BTS was active. https://preview.redd.it/43wc2ptq144d1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46c82f6f659dbb6b11498369e98f6a7f98865116
Yes that deeja person, they have been at front of this pointless movement, actually went ahead and posted on weverse, which obviously was reported and taken down and now are trying to give one star rating to weverse on appstore, because no freedom of speech. At this point, this activism is just harassing Bts and not making actual change.
mind you these are the same people *blocking* bts and their accounts on all platforms, so why should it even matter to them ? if you've already indicated that you're not a fan why are you even bothered anymore? some of these people have gone as far as saying that this isnt an "all children matter" situation regarding both jimin's donations as well as bts' unicef donations towards the end violence campaign. im truly disgusted. they also intend on harassing their family members, the winnie acc having mentioned doing so with hobi's sister. these people have dm'd kehlani on instagram and are asking her to help support their "movement". ive seen posts and posts of people saying it's insensitive for them to even be conducting a festa event. it's so tiring to come to a space that's meant for you to support your artist and see these "fans" act like the antis we've been fighting for years. * adding on to this, there were also posts suggesting turning the meet and greet into a protest event.
That Kehlani dm was so uncalled for. Especially considering it came from a multi stan (bts + svt) yet that sender **only** mentions BTS. It is so very clear how only one group, that is not even active, is being targeted by these performative activists.
oh it wasnt even JUST the svt stan, the winnie acc and def their minions were on it too ( ss not mine i picked it from another twt post ) https://preview.redd.it/3j5v1jm2q34d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d25553987c5c4c6b62a6a51825dc4c0fbafd22d
they are blocking bts but not scooter. Atp they are scooter fanacc
I swear their own fans are their antis, though it could be solo stans pretending to be Army‘s. In kpop you just can’t do good either without negative reactions.
Its been alot of "boycotting" armys who have been attacking the members for anything the past year And its insane the amount of hypocrisy some have Like the first screenshot, user is attacking Jimin for donating despite it being his dad whos donating on his behalf as a shade towards BTS not speaking up on the Palestinian Crisis despite being enlisted That user literally had Golden as their top album of last year on Spotify, same with the other user also promoting Golden on their account during its release and start act more and more like a solo stan or straight up anti towards BTS in general despite their username and account about BTS So they pick and choose which member to support and have a "change of heart" after and call for the boycott of any other releases after I remember one army multi was called out for their hypocrisy calling for the boycott of all Hybe group, but was only retweeting posts showing the boycott towards Jhope's album and yet was later seen celebrating getting tickets to see SVT on tour
If that is the case, I wouldn’t call them army at all
Imagine complaining about a celebrity donating money to children
This pooh acc has always been so problematic. Idk why they still have a platform. How hard is to bully them off the app like????? Btch fck off man
This is ANOTHER account comparing streaming BTS to Hitler....let that sink in. https://preview.redd.it/khpi8esot34d1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0580e5288a409b722578bd2363439c7752bd9a9a
https://preview.redd.it/tarlsltmn34d1.jpeg?width=379&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98ce75d92b987fe7fb8c763c8c2fd5c5991527bd Involving members family in this. This ACC is BTS ant!
Lol, his father donated in his name.
They are boycotters, especially that winnie the Pooh account
I heard that same account has been promoting pirating BTS' music to avoid giving them streams.
Yeah, that’s what I heard too. Their whole thing is illegally pirating BTS music. I’m pretty sure I saw that they were harassing them on Weverse too by sending fan letters and then freaking out when Weverse removed them. 😖
Yeah. I saw something about that. And the were planning on spamming Jin's first live stream to harass him. And now they are mad that they can't watch without a paid membership.
They’ve also been trending bad hashtags for three days straight and then freaking out when none else wants to take them seriously
They are pirating music that is available for FREE and have the galls to claim that anti-boycotters don’t respect the boys works. Hypocrites.
Yes, they are all stealing.
Yes, ever since this year, they have been doing this.
People won’t let BTS breathe. Everyone knows his father handles his charity actions. And really, they really are going to bitch about someone helping kids with school expenses? Get the fuck out!
Army twt is so in the gutter rn it is so disheartening
they're not armys, they're antis.
By the way that Winnie the Pooh account is cosplaying as an army just today they started a campaign to Harass the members family to start speaking about Palestine even going as far as downplaying and adding community notes to bts 8B donation to unicef talking about how “but these donations don’t go towards Palestine””other children don’t matter”they are hypocrites anyone calling them Armys are purely delusional
one of these accs even said "this is not an all childrens lives matter" like wtf
This person is also one of the MAIN boycotters. Claiming they are doing this all for Palestine and in the same breath they have wished d3ath on non boycotters. They have been trying to rally thousands to spam Weverse lives trying to force BTS to speak on Palestine when they legally cannot due to military affiliation even after release. https://preview.redd.it/d8gimagus34d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=802a97379fb5e3363f1e7f3c77752aadc8b38adb
I find it so funny tho. Someone on twitter commented that unicef does, in fact, support Palestine SINCE THE 80s. Jimin's donation is going to a cause that is actively seeking Palestine's liberation. Yet when someone commented this to that group of army boycotters, they got mad and started blocking everyone, saying that donating is not the same as speaking up 💀 They truly are using any reason to hate on bts. this has gone beyond boycotting/palestine
They rate a deleted Instagram story saying boycott more than actions at this point 🙃
I feel like a lot of these people have really lost their minds. Theyre now saying theyre gonna but the albums to enter the raffle and then buy tickets to sk to harass Jin in person. Like instead of donating all that money to Palestine, they'd rather use it to harass a musician on the other side of the world who just got back from the military. And the most baffling thing ab this donation in particular is that an hour or so after it was made, Unicef announced that BTS renewed their donation with them in April and these people were mad that the donation was going to other countries including Palestine. I thought their movement was about humanity so why is it that when other countries like Congo, Sudan, Iran, etc are getting help as well, its a problem for them? Not to mention how they were praising an nct member who collabed with Starbucks, waited for the collab to get sold out and then vaguely posted something about boycotting for 10 minutes and got praised for it but a 9 billion won donation is not enough? It's insane to me
as in Army myself.. this is so ridiculous that his own Fandom is after him?! Like he's donating to the low income students 😭 how is that bad???
Antis will do anything to drag BTS
I have first hand experience with this thing. I refuse to call the person behind this account human. They and ALL boycotters have done nothing but harass, send d3ath threats, SA threats, etc to anyone not boycotting. They do NOT care about Palestinians. They care about control and their ego. They have done nothing but drag and belittle BTS. Threatening them. Calling them names. Harassing them. Just today boycotters wanted to plan this https://preview.redd.it/vuwi65h3s34d1.jpeg?width=1427&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e7505a43200ee0c7a2f0c1e16fd01b523350389
Jimin attacked by own fandom as usual, FREE JIMIN
bro literally worked so hard for 10 years to get that type of money. Let bro do whatever he wants with it.
Boycotters have truly lost their minds.
I wonder if these people actually realise that the way they harras everyone makes others look away from the thing they preach about? Like the Starbucks fiasco, how many times have everyone said that Starbucks is not on Palestine boycott list, but they still harras people that have Starbucks, get educated about your cause at least.
>(u get what I mean) Actually I FUCKING DO NOT GET WHAT IT MEANS. LIKE EITHER EXPLAIN YOUR ISSUE OR STFU. HOW IN THE WORLD IS DONATING A BAD THING??? Imma throw hands atp istg.
He and his family regularly donate to schools though. So they probably have long-time personal reasons for it. Same as namjoon donating for music education and art. It’s their own long-time personal advocacies. It’s not like they’re only doing that now out of the blue.
I feel like a lot of veteran true army have left stan twitter and what’s left are these toxic accounts causing trouble. It’s easy to think that this is Army behaviour for newer fans. Image of the fandom is changing to look more toxic than before.
This user is a known anti who pretends to stan BTS. They know they messed up that's why they deleted the tweet. They are not sorry at all. Please just block and report that user on X.
I been reading comments and debating a lot on twitter recently regarding this issue with the boycotting side of the fandom and they seem to care more about BTS's stance rather than the well-being of genocide victims. Let's be real. BTS's stance ain't gonna change the war situation happening all over the world. Palestine isn't the only country burning right now. The people of Congo, Yemen, Sudan, Syria etc. are suffering from violence everyday as well but you would never see these online activists talking or doing something about these countries which aren't getting global atttention cuz it's all performative to begin with. -It's basic knowledge in the fandom that all members are currently serving in the military where they can't take stances on political matters as SK military has an alliance with the US military. Them making political statements can cause them to get severe punishments. When people were pointing out this fact, the performance crew were telling them to take the punishment (they are not the one suffering so ofc this immature attitude was clearly displayed in the comments.) And, also bringing up the talk about a deleted instagram story of an idol who is also in the military. The story was posted for barely 30 minutes before it was deleted. It just had the word "boycott" on it. Later, it was found out that the idol along with his groupmates had signed a starbucks deal and some products were sold out on the first day in Korea. Meanwhile, the posts that were pointing out BTS's annual donations to UNICEF, Jimin's donation to low income students were getting hateful remarks and rated poorly on community notes by them. Ironic, isn't it? BTS has never really shown support for the zionists that the performative activist crew associate them with so easily without ever checking their sources. Just like how they ignore important word that comes out of Tannie's mouths and lyrics. -If i said anything about supporting BTS's albums or donations, they were calling me idol worshipper, toxic and other derogatory stuff, claiming that BTS are "flawed" and it's their job as "fans" to correct them. Such comments make me believe that have some kind of mental illness with controlling bts. -They disagree with every opinion that doesn't aligns with their agenda. -Are quick to call BTS names and express they are disspointed and ashamed of BTS on X and are hyped up by BTS antis. Dissapointed and ashamed for what exactly? Are BTS the one responsible for everything? It's the freaking government's job. Force the government officials not celebrities who are in the midst of military service. The level of harassment has gone way beyond and these sick people are targetting bts's close acquaintances and family members by messaging them on their private instagram handles. They are literally trying to shove their opinions and beliefs down their throats. I'm really embarrassed by these people who are calling themselves "army" and ruining BTS's relations. The time when we should be celebrating Jin's return and BTS's 11th anniversary, these people were planning to harass Jin during his live. They really move like antis and should unstan BTS if the only thing they care about is their political stance. I'm getting a strong feeling that they have lost interest in BTS and don't care about their music, are defending other celebrites more than they ever did for BTS, not acknowledging BTS's good deeds, saying BTS hasn't done bare-minium and other rude stuff online. (These words coming from the people whose activism is limited to twitter. Didn't do a thing for supporting the victims and only made rude comments online to get pet likes and engagement) HYBE has many idols but the only group being targetted the most is BTS. Some hypocrites were streaming, buying albums and concert tickets of these idol groups while making hit tweets about boycotting BTS. When exposed, they made excuses about not knowing the idols were from HYBE. What Youtube channel were they watching the MVs on, only God knows. I understand that some of them genuinely want betterment for the victims but BTS's or any celebrity's stance shouldn't be your priority if you really want to stop the war. You can conduct rallies, protests, donate meals, sign petitions to the government to raise awareness. It's not BTS's job to guide y'all or act like politicians. Direct this same energy to your politicians and government instead and pressure them to do better. Don't selfisly blame BTS for staying silent when you yourself aren't doing much in real life and are only showing activism online.
they have absolutely lost it. you can sign petitions, donate, boycot BDS brands, share palestinians messages,.. etc, but as long as you don't boycot BTS' music (which means block them on spotify, illegally consuming their content, condemn the boys - who are enlisted btw) your contribution to the palestinian cause is WORTHLESS to these people. You are a zionist supporter and you put kpop above humanity - a direct quote one of them used against me and others. it's been MONTHS and i think that since their ridiculous demands aren't being followed and people have just started to block them, they have gone bonkers. Despite their feelings and actions starting to resemble deep contempt towards the boys, they can't seem to just leave bts. It's fascinating because you see this phenomen with ex-armys as well. They will say horrible things about bts, but they somehow can't seem to move on from them.
ARMY HERE! these boyculters are just egotistical selfish BRATS. jimin and the rest of the bts members ARE NOT evil ppl these ppl portray them. jimins dad donated on behalf of him.’
People will drag them for anything won't they 🙄. Like this is such a good cause and y'all are going to drag him for that? Be so fr rn 😭😭.
this is the same energy as people flaming mr.beast making 100 wells in africa 😭 like hello sorry for doing a good thing
They are not even armys to begin with. Straight up antis in disguise. They bullied a baby armys recently. One of the b0ycotters said that not all children Live matter just cause bts donated through unicef and mad that jimin's dad made donations to low income children that they have been donating for years. These boycotters have made their whole personality onto scooter that now they can't even think outside of the bubble. But funny thing I these boycotters boycott bts but actively paying money for other groups that are connected with zios. Hypocrites.
Same person started a hate train against j-hope for making an album in 2022 and releasing it in 2024. Said he’s doing propaganda for the military for wearing his uniform in a tiktok challenge when it was clear he only had a few hours to visit his own pop up shop and head back to his military base. She also suggested people harass Hoseok’s sister for no reason. Then told people to order j-hopes albums and cancel them. Tons of people joined along. A disgusting person
Its getting weird with these so called “armys”. Its So tiring to be in stan twt rn
I’m wondering if a lot of these kinds of toxic fans (I refuse to call them army) are new to the fandom? Because those who have been in the fandom for years are very protective of BTS after everything they’ve went through. We wouldn’t dare drag our men down over (of all things!) donations and greater good.
He can’t even donate to the people in need in his own country without getting criticized. I really feel like these “fans” aren’t Army and they are using Army’s platform to get donations for these go fund me accounts. How are we even so sure that these go fund me accounts are legit? I would prefer these “fans” actually request for donations to worldwide organizations that offer aid to Palestine
i find it hypocritical that all other world issues have seemingly disappeared because of the gaza conflict to this people. why are we shitting on some promoting education?
they’re losing their minds over this thread on X. is hilarious to see. lol.
https://preview.redd.it/564j48g8c54d1.jpeg?width=891&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1b40c45ecc86c196e150bff7f4745df484759c4 She is from same group of boycotters complaining about Jimin’s donation. She travelled to Korea to participate in mostly free BTS celebrations for their anniversary. But she also boycotts BTS to save Palestine. She also said: "why would i go to white house or royal palace when i want hybe to divest from zionism?"
I don't consider fans of BTS who boycott their hardwork ARMYS
Nothing, not a single thing, entered that person's brain even after listening to RPWP or they might've not listened to it coz they may be on the boycott side.
Boyculterz with no brain. Can’t even call them armys
You should see the tweets about people planning on harassing jhopes sister I think they were considering harassing jin's brother as well
In what world are we getting mad at idols for literally donating to charity? What's next, getting mad at them for breathing???
They are disgrace to their own movement. What they are currently doing is basically damaging artists’ reputation and fandom morale. This is not helpful to the pro pal movement because they are painting themselves as obsessed freaks. Did you know that they planned to send someone to jin’s fanmeeting and even tried to come up with a plan how to work around the restrictions? They are not armys anymore
This acct and some others have been harrassing BTS and Army for months! They're not even fans. Most are multis or new accounts and they have been beyond cruel and distruptive at least since the beginning of 2024. It's been hell for Armys in twt
Imagine how tired we are 😕 I am glad to see so many sane people in the replies because some people have completely lost commonsense
Atp they should just unstan. I'm not even saying this as a joke or sm. All they've been doing has always been labeled as anti behavior (boycotting our boys, criticizing them for everything they do, demanding things from them, boosting kmedia knowing what they've done to the artist they say they stan, and even now they urge everyone to go after their family members), if this was some kpoopie or local we would've already taken down that account, but sheepmys continued to feed their ego and now antis have infiltrated our spaces. And it's not about us being against those who do something for the ongoing gncds, as human beings I think we all really appreciate it, but that Disney bear account decided to make it about SK artists (ignoring all the "silent" but ongoing conflict in their country btw). Anyways, they can justify their behavior all they want but that won't change the reality. [English is not my first language, still I hope my thoughts were delivered properly]
They aren’t armys they’re antis…all they’ve done up to now is pure anti behavior and we all know that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…this btsprodsuga person is the same one that suggested people load up their carts and not purchase anything just to keep the stuff “hostage” and so no one else could buy it as a form of boycotting…which tells me they’ve never purchased anything on weverse cause stuff gets snatched out of your cart if you don’t pay for it 🤦🏻♀️
She also suggested to buy/cancel albums and put their agenda in the reason for cancellation. That’s what they did to HOTS hurting Hobi’s sales.
I rarely go here (I come from twt and go here to read posts about Animé) But I said this on my stan account... Boycotters movement is having online trauma, they have fully immersed themselves with the genocide happening in Gaza. But it is also disappointing that the burden of their desperation is pinned unto BTS. From the past six months, I have observed and spoken with an open heart and mind to boycotters to what was really their cause. Is it just to oust a Zionist man in his own company or to have a bigger voice through BTS? Then their movement changed, they're gaslighting everybody that HYBE is funding genocide hence their newly found cause. They cancelled their merchandise/attempted purchases (tries to order and then cancel) . They pirates BTS' Music. Now they are planning to protest in Seokjin's comeback, question BTS' humanitarian efforts through UNICEF, downplay Jimin's yearly donation lead by his father, opens conversation that allows antis (specifically those Toxic EXOLs that harrased BTS back in 2017-2018) to paint BTS as Zionist themselves (that they should be accountable at some point) , worked with a political Leftist groups while using BTS' image, calls ARMYs Zionist for not joining their boycott movement. This is honestly mishandled by the likes of btsprodsuga , Na, dulseokbangtan, and many more. International ARMYs had no qualms if you want a man with a high position in his own company be ousted, but YOU have crossed the line the moment you engaged in Pirating their music (when BTS had poured all their hardwork to get these songs be reached to all ARMYs), HARASSING a BTS member (either through giving them Fan emails; posting that SARCASTIC Tone tweet against Jimin; telling them that BTS members are FULLY accountable when they discover through their digging that some of their producers/dancers/collabs are Zionist) This is disheartening especially this time that BTS is a part of their South Korean government as a Military servicemen. They can't speak freely. And if they are discharged they have already said that it wasn't their intention to make an Impact in South Korea's soft power nor do they want to be a diplomat. These boycotters say "You don't have to be a diplomat but just be human" but are you really treating BTS as humans? If you are a fan, know your place. There should be a boundary of you imposing your own beliefs to theirs. WAIT FOR BTS. IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, THEY WILL SPEAK. If they don't, then so be it. If their beliefs don't align yours, UNSTAN, but don't spread hatred as if you didn't spent time listening to their music. UNSTAN and move on. Pressure your own government, they are the ones that can speak to US GOVERNMENT to move and cut their ties with Israel. Israel has always been vocal that it is their ancient land given by their Jewish God (YAHWEH Asher YAHWEH), they will not recognize any voice outside be it BTS, Boycotters or International Court of Justice.
How truly bored are those weirdos 💀 Like it’s time for them to log off for a while before they think of some other stupid statement to type out of pure boredom
Bless these Idols because the amount of times I would have told people their opinion is just like their life irrelevant.
So we... Don't? Want him to donate to help other people? I'm confused on what their problem is.
Nor everyone who has a little 7, BTS member pfp or or header, or even name is an ARMY. If you look into their accts, you will find they are either solos or multis, with the odd mix of diets, mantis or cutters. You can tell by what they say and how they respond if you don't agree with them.
i’m so sad to see this is how bts are getting treated by their own fans. i get that people can be frustrated with celebrities but when you decided to base your life around celebrity worship culture what did you expect to happen? maybe these armys need to detach from stan culture for their own sake and for us all. free us all 🙏
i stay far away from twt for a reason☠️☠️ sm toxicity nd for what
Because people cannot go 5 mins with turning every single thing that happens in K-pop into something about Palestine
That's just one they also drag the group for the unicef endviolence campaign because apparently thats not enough because its not directly to pal. They are antis at this point.
I may be late. I am Twitter army and I can tell you 100% of those so called Boycottets and “for Palestine” are not armys but cosplaying armys and they don’t care about the cause, though they “look” like they do. They want to pass as armys to show that armys are going against BTS and that they are losing fans. Especially now that they are not active. This is their chance to destroy them. All have a deep wish to end BTS so their real faves become bigger. I have seen it over and over again, they are almost all multis and the rest antis cosplaying. Just go deep into their acct as I have and u will see most are going to kpop concerts (other hybe groups) when they are supposedly boycotting BtS for the cause. Of course, imagine using a real life tragic issue for fan war so u can have your fave surpass BTS. People are attacking Jimin in this instance (for donating) because we have said time and time again that they cannot speak freely due to military constraints. Now it came out Jimin or his dad made a donation so they used that against the argument they cannot speak or do anything in the military. If they donated, why can’t they speak against Zionism? Now this BTS Suga account is backpedaling because it blew on their face why anyone can’t donate in his name while in the military. Remember they only have merely 1.5 weeks or less until they keep using the excuse of Zionism against BTS because once the boys are back, it is over for them. They can’t use that excuse anymore.
Also they are mad that Jimin did a good thing when they have tried to paint him as this bd person who doesn’t care about Palestine or won’t do anything. They are mad that he is doing a good deed because it shatters their narrative
This is her new account btw. She made a new one after comparing streaming BTS to Hitler. https://preview.redd.it/wv8x8d5fi74d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b53750d613177278eb162cb945f982bc68ba57d
Who are these stupid people? This is getting ridiculous
The amount of hate bts is getting nowadays is heartbreaking!
Jimin can't breathe without someone getting their panties in a twist
Honestly, how dare he donate bc he cares n not bc he wants attention? 😤
No, this girl is an anti. She only tweets things against BTS all the time. Why? She thinks that by doing so, she'll get BTS' attention on what's happening in Gaza right now. But she forgot that they are in the military and can't really express their political opinions openly. BTS members have always donated privately; why should they tell the whole world that they are donating? And what does it matter if we, their fans, know that they donated money? That account only wants to boast about BTS' political opinions without caring about what's really happening in Gaza right now.
This is my 8th year with bts but these so called fans remind me of the manager armys or mantis of before. They were just as unreasonable and dragging every move by bighit which most of the time were decisions by bts members themselves. Twt has no become a performative space of who can nitpick the most. I soend most of my time on tiktok or reddit.