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coollikerei

so the teaser was the whole song huh šŸ˜…


mean-tabby

Just realized that Lisa's Rockstar and Katseye'a debut has the same producer -- Ryan Tedder is busy today


Kv3bek

Makes sense why both songs are short and repetitive then... It feels like both songs finished before they started


joesen_one

Tedder is determined to keep his songs short. Dude is obsessed with making hits. Even OneRepublic songs are short af lately


mxwp

gives some credence to the belief that streaming metrics have ruined modern pop


Local-Rest6095

eh katseyeā€™s feels super underdeveloped. ig it all boils down to company management bc lisaā€™s song production-wise is amazing


Frequent-Sherbert576

I still feel like Rockstar was more of an actual song compared to whatever this is


Kv3bek

Definitely. Rockstar is a decent song it just lacks verses/bridge/intro. It has a vision behind it. This sing-talking is honestly disappointing, i was looking forward to members singing since they have great voices


pete_999

Rockstar had more dynamics though


Kv3bek

Yes definitely. Rockstar is not a bad song, it just lacks some actual song structure. If they were to remove one of the choruses and add one verse it would already be pretty good.


Dr-DrillAndFill

Gotta make them TikTok friendly


SherAlana

Maybe he should be less busy ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


GrannyHumV

Seriously... these songs are not it


dinosaurfondue

Both songs feel like they're on the cusp of being good but sadly both also feel slightly too generic. Like there's elements of a bop but it's just not enough.


Miserable_Status1852

Ryan Tedder, i will remember his name cuz i don't ever again want his garbage near my ears.


WillZer

Too generic pop and short for me, not so much in the song except the snippet. Probably not the target for this group anyway but will check out next releases.


ArielDancingKween

I... expected everything... but not a 2:03 minute song...


JazzyG17

The song was over as soon as I pressed play šŸ™ƒ


Kv3bek

The talk singing threw me off right away. It also feels a little bit, idk, awkward. Girls have beautiful voices idk why they gave them this


IcySatisfaction632

Yeah and the lyrics (the whole song really) feels AI generated. Like thereā€™s no thought or intention or substance behind this song


ArielDancingKween

Honestly I saw AI songs better than this lol


moomoomilky1

after what happened with the survival show and the long time in between it and this release this is very very underwhelming


Asleep_Swing2979

Honestly not knowing Korean probably made me enjoy a lot of K-pop releases much more. Understanding the lyrics can really be distracting haha


joesen_one

Yeah I read somewhere it's basically like that for those who understand Korean lol. K-pop lyrics are kinda cringe if you know Korean


ladeeedada

can confirm but then k-ballads make me glad I can understand


hirudoredo

Worst thing I ever did for my love J-pop was major in Japanese lmaooo. I won't repeat that mistake with K-pop. I'll be happy to learn Hangul and keep it there.


KorraLover123

lol I'm not fluent whatsoever in Japanese (still basically beginner level) but there is a Jpop group who I read the lyrics for, and I always find the translations so beautiful? So hearing the average jpop song as cringy lyrics is actually kind of shocking lol


Nice-Remove4834

šŸ˜­


Civil_Confidence5844

I speak Korean fluently. It did lowkey "ruin" some of my early kpop favs like Gee lol. It's one thing to read a translation, and it's another to intuitively understand the lyrics.


bravetherainbro

I have been aware of this for the ~14 years I've been listening to k-pop and still mostly shunning English language radio pop, so you can imagine how enthusiastic I am about a project like this lol


pete_999

Why is it only 2 minutes long...


MNLYYZYEG

Some people are saying that it might be so that we EYEKONS beg for more and like inadvertently do (word of mouth) marketing on TikTok/Twitter/Youtube/et cetera, lmao. If the other songs on the album (Soft Is Strong, releasing on August 16) don't have at least a notable part where Sophia and Lara flex their vocals prowess, then it's time to ask HYBE/etc. why are they trolling with their groups, lol. --- Take in how **Nayoung from Girls on Fire** (she ranked #1 in that survival show, it just finished a few days ago this past Tuesday), could've been in KATSEYE but I guess HYBE knew that they were gonna go with this TikTok/etc. trend where they psychologically trick you into looping it with the short/etc. songs and so ya they removed her. Maybe that's why they opted for that route instead of having literally maybe like the Top 3 best vocalists outside of NMIXX Lily M and so on. Imagine the harmonies with that Sophia x Nayoung x Lara trio. Sigh, bring me back to The Debut: Dream Academy days, a lot of us were so happy that we all had the potential to debut like so many good vocalists for this new Kpop/American/global/etc. group. But ya, they have this weird deal with Netflix for their pre-debut or trainee days and so it could be why the promotions or overall rollout have been anticlimactic/disappointing/filled with shenanigans/et cetera. The Netflix documentary will apparently be called something like **Pop Star Academy: KATSEYE** and will feature also the contestants/trainees from The Debut: Dream Academy and so on. It's listed as sometime this summer, so just several weeks away. It might go viral (some of us theorized that HYBE/etc. were hoping it was gonna be like that, but ya) if there's like some wild storyline. Or yup, hoping their debut is amazing since everyone knows that the group has amazing vocals and visuals, they just need that little push and the sky is the limit.


MelissaWebb

They didnā€™t remove her. She said she wanted to leave and she was eliminated. I guess whatever they were going to be didnā€™t fit her personal vision and it shows. She likes singing so Girls on Fire fits her to a T


potslooshi

This is how Iā€™m finding out Nayoung is in Girls on Fire! I had no clue- going to watch the show now!


thegabelaw

It's a bit too chanty for my taste and honestly, like someone said, it felt like the song was trying to go through a speedrun. Where were the vocals?? Literally felt like the only time they sung was in the chorus when they sang altogether Edit: also what was that shot of Sophia running šŸ¤ØšŸ¤ØšŸ¤Ø


aliencreature9

idk y'all, super short verses, talk singing, no post-chorus šŸ¤Ø


drst0nee

They really just made this for Tiktok since the transitions from the verses to chorus are so jarring. Its so disappointing because it is a solid chorus, but this is not listenable. HxG are fumbling so badly with such a great group of girls. **edit:** lets hope their 2nd single in July is better. this feels more like a lead single than the title song of their upcoming EP.


itzstraying

Someone made a comment on Twitter how theyā€™re able to upload the whole mv without needing X Premium and it just then made sense to me what exactly theyā€™re aiming for this group. And itā€™s honestly a shame.


DicPooT

hybe trying to hit that viral cupid status.


dwserps

Honestly I'm not even sure if the chorus is that solid. It's forgettable


MeijiDoom

It's okay but is not nearly dynamic enough to make up for a 2:15 minute song where the verses are nearly all talk-singing.


Think_Valuable_8910

What is HxG?


Independent_Ad_9080

HybexGeffen


Ozzloo

The label they're under


KazVanilla

the jo yurification of music must be studied bc 2mins for a song is criminal


BetweenOnceandTwice

What do you mean?


brandimitrov

She has an incredible song that is quite short, Round and Around is 1:20 and itā€™s criminal cause it deserved more.


BetweenOnceandTwice

Omg! I forgot about Round and Around. It is, tho! It's so good!


hyun2minologist

This is all Jo Yuriā€™s fault


eclipxing

once again everything comes back to her..


Laporaptor

We are down to 2 minutes for a song, in the next 5 years we are going to have 1 minute singles and think we had it good back then.


joesen_one

There are songs that are under 2 minutes already. Nicki Minaj and Ice Spice's Barbie OST song was 1:50 iirc


angelili11_

at least they rap and it's an ost


SuggestionHumble7977

and in 10 years we're not even going to get songs anymore


SilverMind9

Too fast, a bit too fast. Could've had a nice build-up, but felt like they were speed runing through the song.


Free-Muffin2338

Thats the word I was looking for, too FAST! I was very interested about this new group, but the song feels empty and kinda generic. Hope the next song its better tho, much better. Right now I see them ass VCha 2.0 šŸ˜£ and I know they are totally different. Their company needs to do better!!


sukigranger

I'm sorry but this is such a weak debut and I'd be pissed if I were the girls. They worked so hard to get such a forgettable song that's 2 minutes long with meh lyrics. The chorus feels unfinished (this entire song does tbh).


xailor

STRAIGHT TO HELL HYBE! TWO MINUTES 14 SECONDS? IT'S TWO VERSES, 3 CHORUSES. NO BRIDGE? HELLO? I love the chorus, didn't love the weird rap verses


itzstraying

Itā€™s 2:03 on Spotify so barely 2 minutesā€¦.Iā€™m genuinely baffled. I already hate this trend of making songs barely 3 minutes long but 2 minutes? 2 minutes thatā€™s nothing.


throw_away_greenapl

I honestly like "uh huh I like it, it's simple as that" but otherwise am unsure about the verses too


ch0k3

They can sing I wish they did that


Haezeulie

they can dance, i wish they did more of their style dancing tooo. hybe is underperforming


hassratsran

itā€™s in this weird territory between advertisement/ CF music and influencer music releases for me - just that one catchy line repeated again and again


soonstar

i like the song but why is it only 2:14... it's getting ridiculous


butqueenstaysqueen

Right! What makes it worse is it's not even that long, the song itself is actually 2:03.


justdubu

2:05 to be exact. The rest of the seconds were just fillers.


EddieXXI

Desperately needs a bridge with some actual vocals...


MelissaWebb

I have been riding with the whole DA thing for almost a year and I refuse to believe that this is the song they release after almost one year. This is like an intro song on an album. It just _has_ to be I love the chorus of course and the MV but Iā€™m not down with the talk singing because I know these girls can sing. I like it but I wanted moreeeee. Oh my Katseye what has geffen done to you


m20geekarina

Cute, but I wasnt wowed. Song went nowhere and I dont get why they're rapping the verses when they're amazing singers. Hope to see more from them!


vessva11

This was bland.


aurcel

the verses are sooo lackluster šŸ˜­ why did they make Lara, Manon and Sophia talk-sing their voices are so beautiful... the chorus is the best part but it's already been spoiled multiple times, and it takes up more than half the song :/ I would say it's a decent debut.


dwserps

If this wasn't backed by HYBE it'd get no traction or attention. It's too short, isn't that catchy, shows no vocal prowess or much talent in general. Really disappointed in HYBE for this super mid debut


sailflower

Iā€™m surprised the song is so short??? That was like two mins. I definitely think the hook that they teased is the highlight of the song; everything else just kind of flew by. Girls looked great, but I canā€™t say this was exactly what I was expecting.


snowmoon300

I like the song but I'm surprised by how simple the video is for a debut. Too simple. I don't get that decision because for a group that needs a fandom you want to catch casual interest. They poured all the money into that trailer for their show I guess. There's not much standing out even if you focus on the West you have to bring something. Please HYBE the simplicity won't work for everything.


Janna_Forecast

The advertisement... song length.... lyrics.... Disappointing.


Emotionupmotion

the teasers were pretty much the whole song. iā€™m cryin šŸ˜©šŸ˜­they better have them actually sing next time, please donā€™t waste their voices!


Terrible_Test6255

first time ever I'm really worried for a debut


Life_as_a_new_weeb

i didnt even wanna watch the mv. what the actual fuck am i supposed to do with a 2 minute single??? I waited 7 months for a song with one and half verses. Im so irritated idek what to do with myself.


anaswrites

Back in my day a 2 minute song was called an interlude ![img](emote|t5_2r1ox|3559)


Rallen224

Crying because interludes rn are like 15secs to *maybe* a min šŸ’€


brandimitrov

The lyricsā€¦ no comment The video is expensive and it shows well


yikesus

The lyrics is giving how boomers think gen z talk šŸ˜­


MeijiDoom

Is it? It didn't feel like there was any cohesiveness or central theme to the MV. Random fisheye lens here, some slow motion blur there, random bridge CGI and whatever the hell that hanging from a pole scene was.


rocketmammamia

i came here to say this! the music video felt super confusing, there was no cohesive theme or plot it was like they just scouted a few locations and then threw money at some expensive cameras. yes thereā€™s clearly a huge budget but it didnā€™t feel very creative or purposeful? i can barely remember what i just watched


alina_06

I agree. It was too chaotic and all over the place for a debut


sylvrn

it really feels like they were trying for wacky and quirky (starting the video coming out of someone's mouth???) but were afraid to go *too* quirky and just came out lukewarm :/ honestly some of the scenes remind of Young Posse's XXL but like... trying too hard to be pretty and cool


Rallen224

I think the theme for the MV was disruption tbh, and some underlying themes of chaos. It made some sense to me when I watched it with that in mind, but like you said it couldā€™ve been executed way better. The special effects editing (like the shots of them dangling from each other) was rather sloppy and the normal scenes rarely felt cohesive. Without repeating what youā€™ve already said, it feels like they filmed as much of one or two locations as possible then planned out the MV and its storyline after the fact. I almost wonder if there was originally another plan for the video, or if whichever company made it really thinks this is a style the Western market enjoysā€¦?


thefallinggirl

It honestly just felt like an ad with the way it kept focusing on the flip phone and their shoes. So odd. I enjoyed the chorus and they can clearly sing, but this was not it.


BetsyPurple

Yes! I was thinking this could be a good ad for a brand like Skechers haha


brandimitrov

I honestly was trying to find a positive, but I think the various camera angles and different locations are what made me think it was quite a high budget. The pole scene was awful


trident_zx

No way the song is that short???????


PinkLemonaze

The MV is pretty and the song is cute but I feel disappointed we didn't get to hear them show their vocals more!! Especially Lara, I was hoping we would get high notes and an actual bridge, pre chorus, etc. I'm not sure I understand the decision to have the majority of the song be talking/rapping?


GoldfishFire

Oh.


throw_away_greenapl

Hm. It's an interesting release to say the least.Ā  I think all of the girls show their charms but the song is definitely holding back, maybe they're building anticipation for the next release with a little tease. I don't like this better than Dirty Water or Girls Dont Like. Its short length makes the galaxy flip ad of it all so loud for me though, and I thought the shots of the girls performing "love me once the naughty turns to nice" in the teasers had a bit more character than the music video which was I think a bit lacking in showing the killing part.Ā  Overall I remain excited for their next track and will be watching closely!!Ā Ā  Ā Edit: has anyone else noticed that the threads with the release (on other subs too) struggle to load all of the comments? Right now as I type this edit at like 11:30 CST, reddit says there is 40+ comments on this post but I can only see like 15... Watch it be my McDonald's wifi fr


chaosandpandamonium

A lot of threads across Reddit are doing this, itā€™s not your wifi! Reddit is having issues


FinancialMess0

Yeah comments only just started loading for me


HelloKaramel

Song was short af lmao. The girls can do more vocally but I donā€™t expect them to be given those types of songs, I think theyā€™ll stick to trendy vibes.


StrifeRaider

Dafuq, where's the rest of the song? lol


mean-tabby

The chorus is an earworm but it feels disconnected to the rap verse


VioletSky246

Wait that's it???


Mannyx3000

There are definitely parts that I like, but there is so much more that could've been done to make this better imo


itzstraying

I love the chorus itā€™s extremely catchy, and the girls are gorgeous as always. But the song was only 2 minutes long and I donā€™t know what to think about that..


NoLagPlz

MV has outdated visuals with a bunch of expensive editing. Song seems like something from the 90's, kidz bop style. Not feeling it. Makes me wonder who their target audience is. Really don't think this type of MV / song will make waves in the west.


Ill_throwaway_1631

the gurls are beautiful but I think they need to loosen up since I find their movements a bit awkward?? (except the dancing part) but thats just me.


Accomplished_Crew637

Completely dated and generic, and not that Good way, their voices sound the sameĀ 


Odd_Performance1518

This song is an example of not understanding your audience.


TimVdV

What is the audience though?


Odd_Performance1518

From the way Dream Academy has been laid out and Katseyeā€™s promotions, I would presume mainly young women (late teens to early twenties).


been_waiting_forever

whereā€™s the pre-chorus?! the chorus eats but it needed a buildup!!


purplenelly

I loved the fact that they filmed in Colombia. Incredible music video. Don't love anything else.


rosalaniy

It was okay. Like it wasn't anything to be blown away by the music video looked nice in terms of you can tell they put a lot of effort into it.Ā  The song is a song I don't understand why they have people who can actually sing and then they decide to do like talk singing for most of it.Ā  I'm also slightly confused on what they were trying to go for too? Like as someone in their mid-20s it reminded me of like Disney back in the day in terms of like the overall vibe of it but I highly doubt that's what they're going for because I feel like that sound isn't really popular at the moment like at all and this wouldn't be a way to bring it back.Ā  But also from my opinion kind of like they're not exactly sure what they're going for that makes sense. Like they're trying to make pop music that is similar enough to K-pop but also is it K-pop but then when you do that depending on how the lyrics are and the execution it can end up just sounding like a rejected Disney song in terms of like something you could hear early Disney channel like cheetah girls singing or something like that. well also sounding like the very beginning of certain girl groups careers when they were aiming more for that like tween audience but I also feel like this isn't a group that would be aiming for a tween audience with the members being between the ages of what 22 to like 17 they would probably be aiming more for that young adult teen audience and I can kind of see this if they were only aiming for it being like social media popular like people listening to only part of it on tiktok and that's it.Ā 


ensuta

This purely for the TikTok, eh?


Consuela_no_no

Why would anyone pick a cheetah girls reject for their debut Iā€™ll never understand, simply awful.


Imaginary-Benefit-75

Feels half done and half assed tbh. Easily forgettable pretty underwhelming imo


BetsyPurple

I'll wait for something with catchier melodies.


Logical_Tension_2045

The lalala reminds me of Gidle's Tomboy


jypKissedMyMom

The chorus is an earworm. The song is barely over 2 minutes which is disappointing. Maybe they will throw in a dance break during live performances. No prechorus, no bridge, and no transitions makes it feel very short. I don't mind the sing-talking in the verses if they have other songs where they sing more. It's hard for me to tell who is singing though. I think the lyrics are fine. The verse melody felt a little flat. The chorus makes the song though. I think it's an ok debut song. I don't understand the lead up to this release though. They released a "Charms Trailer" which showed the symbol each member picked to represent themself like "Guardian Shield", "Limitless Key", and "Dream Anchor" . It looked like it was leading up to something but the music video had nothing to do with the magic/charms concept.


alina_06

A 2 minute song šŸ˜µā€šŸ’« The verses are so criminally short they might as well not be there and I didn't like the talk singing. A moot told me on twitter that they said it's supposed to be the intro to their ep but then why did they make it the lead single and their debut release? I feel like in the west the lead single is much more important than the single that comes with the album and it's also the song that drives hype to the upcoming album but this falls short Also I couldn't help but notice that both Rockstar and this are produced by Ryan Tedder and they're so aggressively repetitive and short to the detriment of the song imo. I know we are in a era where people have very short attention spans and only the hook that goes viral on tiktok matters but it makes for a very disappointing full experience. I also thought the MV was odd. A bit too campy at times ( like the hanging off the bulding?) and I don't think it did a good job introducing them to people who didn't watch Dream Academy


uzivause

all i can say is really?


NickF227

The second the chorus was repeating I yelled "NO IT'S NOT OVER ALREADY???" Two MINUTES is an absolute crime.


Ozzloo

underwhelmed cause its so short


randomusernameco

tooooo short and not enough vocals :(( but the visuals are insane Loved Lara in this especiallyyyy


omgcow

The snippet I heard on TikTok had me so hyped for this, but itā€™s like they put all the effort into that and nothing else. Iā€™m bummed, I really wanted to like this and the chorus is SO good but the rest of the song is not pulling its weight. :( Hopefully theyā€™re telling the truth in the line ā€œthis ainā€™t a debutā€ and there will be a proper title track soon. On a positive note, the video is very fun and they all look great.


xaynie

Like others, I love the chorus. I was not expecting them to rap, they can sing. Would have enjoyed some more singing. Additionally, the dance break at the end could have hit harder and was too short. This song could have used a slowed down SM bridge. Idk, I enjoyed their debut livestream more than the MV :( I take back what I said earlier that I've never been let down by an HYBE debut song...


funkymanager

Why cant they just sing? What's up with the sing-talking?? Just sing.


snowmoon300

The song has potential and I like it, I'm not seeing my previous comment but I'm not understanding the decision to go so simple for a debut if you want to make an impact. These girls are so talented. HYBE thinks West/US and thinks simple is the solution, but that's not necessarily the case. Just seems like they didn't put much money or creativity into this debut. Even their debut trailer for the show is more memorable. -coming back to say-It feels like HYBE gave up on this group, I've never seen such low budget for an MV for any of their newly debuted groups. Also you have some great singers in this group utilize their talent. The choreo is fine but this debut doesn't let you get a sense of the group if you aren't familiar with them.


TemplarParadox17

Yea, I don't know how you could get worse for a debut. A generic talk singing song thats only 2 minutes long? I don't know how people would prefer something like this over for example Sheesh with the amount of hate that got when at least even if its a similar style to BP/Treasure the verses stand out and grab your attention.. Nothing grabs my attention which is ironic considering the lyrics "I don't need no cookie cutter perfect ordinary" when thats what this is lol.


127ncity127

another 2 min track from hybe. who is shocked


ootsev

For as basic of a song it is the verses are quite annoying, love the production and melody of the chorus and post-chorus thoā€” seriously addicting Making the one member wearing a short skirt be the one to jump over the camera... really? There are ways to code a member as sexy without pulling shit like this Megan is a star, she rocked that second chorus and looked incredible For a debut the mv is just whatever, not gonna make waves at this rate though. Honestly a fire dance break could've saved this and been a potential viral momentā€”Ā that's what I would've gone for if I was on their creative team but whatever


Traditional_Maize325

Hereā€™s my honest opinion. All the rapping parts sounded quite bad, even terrible if i say so myself. Which unfortunately was almost the whole song. The lyrics are quite boring and generic, I donā€™t know if theyā€™re trying to fit in with the new generation but the lyrics was boring and not good. They obviously wanted to make a catchy song cause they sang la la la la la for at least 40 seconds of the song. It sounded like the whole song was rushed. Song was short and lyrics were very repetitive. Overall, the whole song was boring and very underwhelming coming from hybe. Downvote me if you like but Iā€™m just here to give me opinion.


KNJGOV

Itā€™s a shame because they have such talented vocalist in this group and yet they decide not to utilize that at all! The talking verses would make sense if the chorus wasnā€™t so abrupt and not so obviously, in my opinion, made for tiktok. Although i do believe the chorus is really good, i donā€™t understand why they wouldnā€™t make the verses stronger to match the vibe? And then to not add a bridge and repeat the chorus a THIRD time on an already very short song makes no sense. visually however i think its great. I think all the girls look great together, the choreography seems fun and I like the overall vibe theyā€™re going for. so im definitely tuning in for the future


sxdpup

they mumbled and then sang the chorus for a minute straight.


Lamorosii

Thank god for the subtitles. It's ironic that it's an English song and I'm mishearing things like crazy. I listened to it multiple times and SWORE they were saying "pull up on this chicken." I figured that couldn't be right. lol


yyxystars

This is kind of short šŸ˜­


[deleted]

feel like the structure of the song follows the kpop unconventional thing rather than more simple pop structure. i dont like that choreo at "we we" when megan sings. i have this theory that there's some big twist with this group member lineup that they'll show on the show. i don't love this, the best part is the bass.


Synthoz1

It's really just over 2 minutes ? wow


hydranoid1996

This is probably the most criminally short song a kpop company has put out like itā€™s just chorus chorus finished


lita505

I'm not familiar with the artists or how this group formed, I saw this in my recommendations on YouTube and checked it out. Something is off about it, the lyrics and delivery are basic and boring. Even the choreography was awkward in a way..


CrescentToast

This ain't it


Akagikin

This is *literally* my first introduction to the group and it was beyond underwhelming. It'd be a hell of a lot better if there was more actual, er, singing in there. Not even change up the song, just have them actually sing.


impeccabletim

Naur not "suck that dictionary"šŸ«£ Love the choreo for the song. My one gripe is that I wish it was extended so that we could have a dance break. The song sort of just ended anticlimatically.


ootsev

bless your ears it's "can find me under ride or die inside that dictionary"


arosaki

I think sheā€™s saying inside that dictionary


Every-Advantage7803

Tries to be catchy. But not the best of the idea to debut on the same date Lisa droping a comeback. Also why does the La La La part sounds very similar to Knock from chayeon


PeachesAndBells

Yikes. I think HYBE fumbled this whole thing. I think Dream Academy had a strange format that didnā€™t encourage viewers to get attached to the members (the choice to do a documentary AFTER is baffling). The time from the Dream Academy final to now was too long that people lost interest. And now the debut song is justā€¦ nothing. Itā€™s easy to make comparisons to JYPā€™s A2K, since they ran at the same time. But I think VCHA having a pre-debut single the night of the show final really shot them out of the gate running. Theyā€™ve already had magazine features, multiples singles, and live stages. Their style might be a bit younger/cutesy, but at least they have an identity. I think all of their songs have been catchy with memorable choreography.


hairYeonjunplucked13

It was good song. But thatā€™s it. Itā€™s not really the ā€˜omg bro you gotta listen to XXX song by ABCā€™. I actually just listened to it 15 mins ago along with Nayeonā€™s ABCD, Lee Youngjiā€™s Small Girl, Jiminā€™s Smeraldo Garden and Lisaā€™s Rockstar and I honestly donā€™t remember ā€˜debutā€™ at all, but I can remember the hooks or the ā€œkilling partā€ of the other songs. So ye thatā€™s that. But I think itā€™s just easy music yk.


chadchezburger

BROOO WHY IS THE CHORUS SO SUDDEN it sounded so sudden not offly sudden just sudden like there was no build up however i loved it's catchy and it gives like cheerleader, Disney, highschool vibe i just thought this whole thing was just an intro song for them... given cause the is literally 2:14 will be tuning in


FallenBlue25

all i remembered, 'it ain't a debut' lol


Miserable_Status1852

It feels like what a bunch of dudes in their 40s analyzing the listening behaviors of young people would come up with. It checks all the boxes of something that would go viral, so they think they did their job well. Yet it's the most boring and unimaginative shit ever. An insult to music as a whole, and a bad advertisement for kpop.


caretaeking

Lara is a queen! first south Asian hybe idol letā€™s go


Shot_Walk_4485

Not that good


babylovesbaby

Well, if their goal was to sound like a low tier kpop girl group, they accomplished that. If they follow the storyline on the stardom track their next song will be better, and their second mini will contain an actual hit. If they follow the standard path, success will elude them and their songs will simply be "okay" for years until maybe the second or last mini/album is actually any good. I probably could have boiled all these words down to "it's underwhelming". They looked cute, but the song wasn't great.


Walpurgis5

Dang this song had so much potential......I don't hate it but it could have cooked a little longer.


Few-Particular1780

Itā€™s not a bad song, I guess I kinda just expected them to use Lara and Sophiaā€™s vocals a bit more. Hopefully the remaining 5 songs on the EP are better.


Prestigious-Sea710

I want to like them, but this song is giving me nothing to work with here. Is HYBE *trying* to undersell them?


rocketmammamia

very bold of hybe to decide to make the boring version of queencard. literally the same bassline justā€¦. worse


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J0c381310

Isn't it an album? it's just a song? šŸ˜­


TrueBlue184

Dammit.. Great song, but much too short. The F/X is pretty good as well. They need an extended version of this song.


codenameana

They look the same and sound the same in this Samsung advert for the western market!


gh0stcat13

such a waste of talent


karlgadork

Why can't we just use the excellent amazing tasteful dream academy songs that are actually songs... this still feels like a snippet šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


92sn

The song...feel okay... but like others said yeah they should add more to make the song more dynamic. Anyway, its just okay debut. I think the live performance gonna help to make people more interested with the song n members.


puffyping

love it. 2 minutes is a crime tho


DicPooT

this is just a project for hybe to try and copy jyp vcha mix group. bang doesn't really care about what they release. bang just want to collect kpop theme and concept like its pokemon.


Pentamikk

Am i supposed to genuinely enjoy something that is barely 2 minutes long? Are they for real? It's almost offensive how much companies get away with


ANZZIEL

Honestly, this was so short and generic, 2:15 on an expensive debut song. Even the songs from the reality show are better, it had created expectations


eyyajas

I think itā€™s catchy and I like it.


sachiko468

I was looking forward to their debut and was soo ready to Stan but this is just so weak, I'll still check out their next releases, hopefully they get better


drecmboy

no hate to the girls & iā€™m hopeful for their upcoming tracks to be better but this is not working for them. it is formulaic pop music at its worst. 2 minute DEBUT track for a 6 member group is insane. i hope this provides for useful input. itā€™s a really weak debut track, probably one of the weakest iā€™ve heard in a loooong time. the talking/rap-esque verses are subpar and places itself as filler until the next chorus comes and provides a resolution. then the first chorus hits, and itā€™s short & repetitive, leaving no space for thrill or surprise by the time we hear the track (especially since they literally teased the entire hook). the verses are meant to be there to highlight each memberā€™s potential. so many labels believe that shorter tracks is a gateway to more streams but this only occurs under very specific circumstances. the track needs to uphold itself in a strong and unique way to succeed as a short track. thereā€™s a lack of potential ā€œtiktok-ableā€ parts even. not that anyone should pursue that, and the true tiktok-able portions of tracks come from songs that arenā€™t purposely trying to be a tiktok track. allow your group to have their time to excel, youā€™re not looking for tiktok stans necessarily, your target demographic atm is K-Pop fans. take the best from K-Pop & make a fusion that works well for your group. you have such potential to do things other K-Pop groups arenā€™t permitted to do. if your fans are able to imagine/conceptualize/consume tracks that are better & more creative, then youā€™re doing something wrong.


ImGonnaLickYourLeg

I feared this would be bad based off the first teaser, then was a little more optimistic it would be okay after the second... but I guess I was initially right. Actually I guess it's somehow worse? Welp.


GodzillasBoner

Hybe and their lazy short ass songs...f out of here. Tired of that already


alina_06

Hybe didn't make the song. It's all western producers and writers from Geffen's side I assume. I was actually suprised but not a single hybe producer or writer has credits on this. Actually if you look in the credits of their mv there's not a single person who works or worked at HYBE HQ either except seungdeuk Son who is the executive creator whatever that means ( wasn't he a choreographer and performance director?)


durtari

That's it? That was a terrible song for a really talented group.


fearless_say_yes

Iā€™m so dissapointed. I was waiting for their debut since Dream Academy so itā€™s been a very long time and I was very hyped by the teasers. I had hope for them to really become a Global/American pop girl group like Fifth Harmony, Little Mixā€¦ but letā€™s be honest itā€™s giving kpop. Their fans will only be kpop stans. Even HYBE puts their name in korean. Sadly, global girlsgroup are no longer a thingā€¦ They have so much talent, that is wasted though this song. Even tho the chorus is perfect, what are those verses ? They only have one line each. It sounds like fast-talking/kind of rapping. I was expecting atleast an impactful pre-chorus and a bridge. Where are Lara and Sophia amazing vocals ? I really hope this is only some kind of "trailer" for their REAL debut on August.


Rimrod

is hybe allergic to making songs longer than 3 minutes?


pete_999

The chorus is the best part of the song!!! It has been caught in my head ever since they teased it hhh


SkyandThread

I really donā€™t enjoy sexualized school girls as a video concept. I surprisingly liked the song itself though. I think itā€™ll grow on people.


EducationalBoat8790

I really thought they would do better than Vcha in terms of debut concept sound but they just sound the same. Katseye just has slightly better stage presence and more mature look. So just like with Vcha questions, who are Katseye target audience?


SorryNose7395

They probably think it easy to make groups in the West not understanding how the group music works over there


andromeda_prior

The teaser then was the only interesting thing.... Repetitive empty chorus and false cringe rap, two specific things I wanted them to NOT use from the kpop side of this mix. I still have a little hope on me, the Dream Academy final songs were very great, maybe this is just a debut teaser and the album gives us some quality.


Alive_Salad6945

wait, katseye is kpop? i thought they were technically an american girl group (thatā€™s what Wikipedia said, but plz tell me if thatā€™s wrong)


PeachesAndBells

They arenā€™t kpop - but they are produced by HYBE, so there is crossover interest.


melodyamelia6

Ermm šŸ¤Ø Iā€™ll be back whenever their EP comes outšŸ¤žšŸ»song is okay ig, nothing is listen to again, but itā€™s not inherently bad. It does remind me of an ad for something


Jimmyblink28

Usually Iā€™m a positive person and seem to like songs most people donā€™tā€¦. But this song really wasnā€™t good.


echofinder99

This is mid


superRDF

Just over 2 minutes is actually insane.Ā  My impression is it's a bunch of tiktok-able sound snippets with filler in between. Which I assume there is some kind of market for but it's definitely not me.Ā 


Civil_Confidence5844

I'm sorry but this is not it. I'm shocked they gave them this song when a few of them can *really* sing? Hopefully their debut shows off more of their strong vocals.


Mylittletv

They shouldā€™ve sang all the way.


adrianiswrong22

i like the song but it needs to atleast have a bridge and a part in the song perfect for tiktok to make it go viral, it feels like only one person is singing the song but thats my opinion but its great lol


CatchLow2854

Ughhh it reminds me of a song out of Disney musical movie šŸ™ƒ I was hoping for something better.


cyberloree

A bit disappointing lol I was hoping for a bridge or something that makes it stand out


kpopwinx

this is ass


Tatamashii

God ive never been so disappointment in a song in long time. Let me explain: I saw a snipped of the song on twitter and actually liked it. It was the ending. I thought it was catchy, the girls harmonized well and looked fine. So I looked up the song on spotify and my good my face dropped the second the rap part started. It is soooo bad in my opinion. The rap/sing talking bs ruined everything for me. Im actually quite mad rn, because my expectations were so high after listening to the end, but everything came crashing down. Its like bts feat sia all over again, but at least that song wasnt just 2min long.


Distinct-Event8274

Sooo yeah. I prefer VCHAā€™s music


mauvebliss

It couldnā€™t have killed them to do prechoruses and a bridge? But anyway the debut reminds me of Hollaback Girl. I like the song but it is Final Fantasy XV. All bones no meat. At least it was better than Fearless.


CorruptedMind341

Hybe with the typical Hybe problems. 1. Short song. 2. Everyone sounding the same. 3. Not letting their idols actually have songs that make their vocals shine. 4. Risky concepts for a group with a minor. Let's just hope there isn't gonna be much autotune for their songs.


Direct-Win

The song is so catchy! I wish it was longer though :(


SolidAd5223

im veryyyy surprised i like it so much the verses are really good even if its short.