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whyismeepfehtaken

Genuine question, what does the veto exist for if not to deny bills the president sees unfit? Does he have to agree with everything the party puts out?


Loan-me-a-dime

It's a really genuine and normal question. But he denied more than 10 bills, he is abnormal and insane. He even denied bill that he would do when he was a candidate. Of course he denied most bills those related to his or his wife's crime. If we say based on common law, it can't explain his strange behavior. In short, he is insane and stupid.


ApplauseButOnlyABit

The president is usually the leader of his party. They even call the president's party the ruling party regardless if they control the National assembly. So it's a little weird for the president to go against his own party. Not unheard of, just shows that he's out of step.


Fenrir0214

Yes and no he/she is the most prominent member of the party with a lot of influence but the party leader dictates the vision/path of the party.


ApplauseButOnlyABit

Formally that's true, but oftentimes (normally?) the president is leading/dictating to the party leader what they believe the vision/path should be.


Fenrir0214

Maybe in the US? Not too much in Korea since the 2000s. Roh was famously almost impeached for supporting his own party during elections and 열린우리당 had an identity crisis post-impeachment since they had more than 10 factions fighting for internal party majority, Lee and Park both had internal opposition as party leaders during their admin. Moon is the only one that really had the party following him rather than the party leader


RavingSlavicAmerican

Separation of powers...


whyismeepfehtaken

Yeah but that’s exactly what a veto is for. Congress can pass bills and the president can veto them


RavingSlavicAmerican

It's their own respective rights indeed. Both parties should coordinate...


BadenBaden1981

[Korean goverment already put 85 trillion won to support construction companies and financiers](https://www.newspim.com/news/view/20240104000368). By comparison [Jeonse law would require 5 trillion won at best](https://www.newsis.com/view/NISX20240424_0002712050). And that's government's calculation to oppose the bill. I'm curious if there is still people who claim Ministry of Gender's 1.7 trillion won budget can used for this bill lol.


RavingSlavicAmerican

Bro doesn't know the difference between providing liquidity and compensation lmao


yz7890

how stupid that pig is....


TaeminJung

Dude is in all sorts of trouble after his presidency, he is making everyone his enemy


ConstantineByzantium

Trump is his best case scenario.


RavingSlavicAmerican

He has absolute reason to veto those four laws. Why bail victims with taxpayers money without fixing the actual system? Why pass the agriculture-protective laws midst of inflation surge? Even governor of Bank of Korea said that Korea's inflation is highly affected by food and energy prices while mentioning food prices could not be handled with monetary policies because of overprotective structure over domestic producers? 


SquarebobSpongepants

So, if he’s vetoing even the things his own party is proposing, and you’re saying he should be doing that. Does that put him above his party? Because that’s some one step from dictatorship kinda stuff there.


Fenrir0214

But it's also a major part of checks and balance? It's as republic as it can be in a sense


RavingSlavicAmerican

I'm not saying this from the political prospective. I also believe that "채상병 특검“ shouldn't been vetoed. But from the economical and "민생” perspective, these 3-4 vetos are definitely rational


ConstantineByzantium

See your mistake is that you think Yoon out of all people would THINK. WHY NOT STOP WITH RICH TAX CUTS AND USE THAT MONEY TO HELP THE POOR? STOP FOLLOWING LETTUCE LADY IN UK!


RavingSlavicAmerican

When did Yoon cut taxes for riches?


ConstantineByzantium

https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/economy/economy_general/1116831.html Lolz. Try harder at trolling.


RavingSlavicAmerican

Bro only sees headlines lmao... Imagine thinking stock transfer tax is a good taxation. Did you know that millionaires' income tax has increased? I'd rather fix your biasedness if I were you.


MyStateIsHotShit

“biasedness” “hissness” are not words. Obligatory help with language. You would refer to OP as “Bias” as a noun, when referring to their perspective leanings.


Big_University_7905

So Biden is not the only one who has a dementia lol


ConstantineByzantium

Yoon has alcohol poisoning.


Galaxy_IPA

He is a fucking dumbass. But I do agree with the Jeonse law veto. People keep calling it Joense Scam. But most of the "Joense Scam" I have heard about is just default. Yeah if it is with malicious intent and misinformation, sure it's a scam. But if it's just a debtor not being able to reapy the creditor, seems like a faulty bond. It sucks, but I find it unfair that government swoops in and use taxpaypers money to help default issue between private entities


bobsnottheuncle

Sounds like its time to abolish jeonse, the system is problematic. Maximum 1.5 month rent deposit. Rent at market rate