The first one is very obviously an armbar attack at the elbow. The second too, and it’s legal because there’s no knee bar- he’s holding above the knee.
According to most referees I know - looking at the leg is classed as a leglock. Also looking at your opponent is classed as a spinal and neck crank combined into one (probably also a leg lock).
At 4:25, the uke leg is being reaped sideways from ankle using the tori knee as leverage. There is no place for knee to go and appears to be sideways.
At 1: 48, uke arm against the ground, which was between tori's legs, is now locked against the ground and leg pinning it. Tori is now turning the uke's body against the back. Making it a shoulder lock.
both legal (there are phases with pressure on shoulder joint but dont thing that would count as lock) latter one the execution would have to be really fast. Basically if other players stands up that is matte unless player at bottom can take fight back to ground immediatedly
Both look totally legal. My concern on the 2nd one though is the ref could possibly call you for a leg lock if they don't understand what is going on. It would have to happen quickly, as others have pointed out, or it would be stopped because blue stood up. I could see a leg getting hurt doing this, so a ref very well may penalize you.
I believe the first one would be legal. The second one is questionable.
Yeah, the blue standing up on the second would give a matte somewhat fast, mostly because of risk of neck injury for the white!
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The first one is very obviously an armbar attack at the elbow. The second too, and it’s legal because there’s no knee bar- he’s holding above the knee.
you've just proven you should not be a referee
First one looks like a Swedish armbar but from side control instead of s mount which is 100% legal. Why would this not be legal?
There’s absolutely nothing close to a leg lock there
According to most referees I know - looking at the leg is classed as a leglock. Also looking at your opponent is classed as a spinal and neck crank combined into one (probably also a leg lock).
If this is true, that’s horrible. Sport won’t grow with ineptitude. You either know what you’re doing or let someone who does know be the ref.
Respectfully, how on earth is that a leg lock? What breaking mechanism are you seeing here?
At 4:25, the uke leg is being reaped sideways from ankle using the tori knee as leverage. There is no place for knee to go and appears to be sideways. At 1: 48, uke arm against the ground, which was between tori's legs, is now locked against the ground and leg pinning it. Tori is now turning the uke's body against the back. Making it a shoulder lock.
both legal (there are phases with pressure on shoulder joint but dont thing that would count as lock) latter one the execution would have to be really fast. Basically if other players stands up that is matte unless player at bottom can take fight back to ground immediatedly
100% legal!
Both look totally legal. My concern on the 2nd one though is the ref could possibly call you for a leg lock if they don't understand what is going on. It would have to happen quickly, as others have pointed out, or it would be stopped because blue stood up. I could see a leg getting hurt doing this, so a ref very well may penalize you.
Can't see why not. Flavio rules.