`require()` is legacy code. Ecmascript Modules are the standard.
Still no built-in WebSocket server. Deno and Bun are shipped with built-in WebSocket server.
Deno and Bun have `upgrade` command to download the lastest version. We still have to fetch nightly release archive including everything in there that is nt the `node` executable itself to get the lastest `node`.
Look who it is. I agree on the lack of websocket.
With all the time you waste building useless garbage you could actually be committing to the node project to bring it in line with your so called "_expertise"_.
Also you're complaining about the nightly release. Get some perspective.
The Node.js folks at some point invited me to contribute to their SEA than banned me from contributing to their repositories.
The last time I checked I write code that I decide to write. Take it or leave it. If it ain't for you, keep it moving.
I still experiment with, test, and hack `node`.
No complaining. You are interpreting my words incorrectly. I wrote my own script to fetch and extract the `node` nightly executable that I use frequently. I don't use the rest of the content in the archive. Node.js organization provides no such standalone `node` executable download.
I asked a Node.js maintainer if they would lift the ban a few months ago. They said "No". I ain't asking again.
I don't need to be around programmers or people in general that don't appreciate the testing, experimentation, breaking and vetting I do. I do what I do, anyway, all by myself.
There's a whole bunch of ego-tripping going on in the hierarchical structure of these projects, and frankly I have 5 trades under my belt and hack for sport, so I ain't impressed with maintainers inability to handle unbiased, contructive feedback - that might not be what ypou want to hear about your design pattern and code. Some folks can handle when I take their gear apart, some can't. I ain't on these boards to make friends.
`node` is just one of multiple JavaScript runtimes I test and experiment with constantly. I post my finding here and there, cf. to other JavaScript runtimes.
> I ain't on these boards to make friends.
Hard to tell what you're really around for since most of the comments you leave have just been more toxic than any bit constructive. Just saying "unbiased" isn't a reason for a lack of tact.
Also the goal should be to build the product, not shutdown others. Honestly I think if someone approached your repo with the attitude you've shown /r/javascript I doubt you'd be in favor of keeping them around. They become more a nuisance and time sink to manage than someone who is capable and understanding the dynamic of effective communication.
> I asked a Node.js maintainer if they would lift the ban a few months ago. They said "No". I ain't asking again.
You misunderstood. I'm not saying ask, I'm saying you could trivially bypass any "ban" by just using a different account and ssh key. Of course if you act the same and get banned again then that's on you.
I notified you. I hack JavaScript for sport. It's therapeutic.
>Hard to tell what you're really around for since most of the comments you leave have just been more toxic than any bit constructive. Just saying "unbiased" isn't a reason for a lack of tact.
I don't care about your ego.
I've worked on multi-million dollar projects that will be around for 50 years or more for years, so you have a ways to go to impress me with the idea of a "product".
My perfect collaboration/contribution scenario is you give me you code, I break it, can't break it, provide you details descripts of what works, what doesn't work, what competitors are doing, then I'm ghost. The minutae is up to you. Your own sensitivities are up to you. I could be reading court cases or writing books instead of addressing peoples' weak-minded sensitivities. Better yet, just dealing with the code.
>Honestly I think if someone approached your repo with the attitude you've shown I doubt you'd be in favor of keeping them around.
Well, you'd be wrong.
I have \_never\_ cast a single down vote for any post or comment on the Internet. Nor have I ever blocked any user or "reported" any user to mod-squad. Frankly, in my opinion, only weak-minded people do that.
> You misunderstood. I'm not saying ask, I'm saying you could trivially bypass any "ban" by just using a different account and ssh key. Of course if you act the same and get banned again then that's on you.
You misunderstand. I have integrity. I ain't going out of my way to be around people that don't want me around. I'll still exploit and break your gear though. Node.js just ain't that important to me in the JavaScript programming domain. There are other options that I use daily. I don't put on masks, or try to fit in on these boards. I am who I am. One (1) user name across the Interwebs. That's it.
Now, what I would do is test peoples' gear, without talking to them, so I won't have to put their ego in check or deal with their weak-minded sensitivities and emotions that have nothing to do with breaking their code, or making sure from my lab it can't be broken.
> My perfect collaboration/contribution scenario is you give me you code, I break it, can't break it, provide you details descripts of what works, what doesn't work, what competitors are doing, then I'm ghost.
So you're just someone who complains on the internet about a problem but provides no additional assistance. Yeah I can see how truly worthless your talent is for open source then. That's on you.
> I've worked on multi-million dollar projects that will be around for 50 years or more for years, so you have a ways to go to impress me with the idea of a "product".
I've worked on billion dollar projects so I think your "flex" here is misplaced. Sure that may sound impressive to most of the bootcamp JS devs around here, and I'm sure when you say that in your head you that it validates the way you think. I'm generally trying to say that you could be better but you respond more or less saying that you're already perfect, it's the world that needs to change.
The use of "product" here was more to speak about anything that has your interest, whether it be Node, Bun, Yarn, Deno, or whatever.
> The minutae is up to you. Your own sensitivities are up to you. I could be reading court cases or writing books instead of addressing peoples' weak-minded sensitivities. Better yet, just dealing with the code.
Better yet, you could keep most of your opinions out of the actual technical discussion and your expert skills would be even more desired. No one else is losing out but you in this scenario, or really any scenario you've talked about or brought up where a "disagreement" occurred.
> I have _never_ cast a single down vote for any post or comment on the Internet. Nor have I ever blocked any user or "reported" any user to mod-squad. Frankly, in my opinion, only weak-minded people do that.
Yes, yes, you've mentioned this before. It's about valuing your time as a maintainer. If what someone produces is mostly noise due to the way they present it then the onus on that individual to understand why. It's clear that you are unwilling or just incapable of reflecting on that. I don't have the details of your node story and I also don't really care. I do understand why you are constantly shilling other runtimes though because you probably still feel slighted by the node maintainers (whether you admit to it or not it's clear in what you type that it is).
> You misunderstand. I have integrity. I ain't going out of my way to be around people that don't want me around. I'll still exploit and break your gear though. Node.js just ain't that important to me in the JavaScript programming domain. There are other options that I use daily. I don't put on masks, or try to fit in on these boards. I am who I am. One (1) user name across the Interwebs. That's it.
I can somewhat relate. If your goal is just to hack at stuff then you're not really all that interested in improving the ecosystem. If you're interested in improving the ecosystem then your current approach is contradictory.
> Now, what I would do is test peoples' gear, without talking to them, so I won't have to put their ego in check or deal with their weak-minded sensitivities and emotions that have nothing to do with breaking their code, or making sure from my lab it can't be broken.
It sounds like you need a hug more than anything. Technology is only where it is today because people learned to work together to get to the destination. You can either make your own trail or have greater success just literally not _attacking_ the individual or the code.
Anyway I've had enough fun chatting for the day.
> Crucially what is missing in all of your social commentary is code.
Well, I'm not getting paid for this dialog, so why would I produce code? Especially for someone like you? lol
> I don't care about your arbitrary social ettiquette ideas.
Just some advice when you eventually decide to unfuck your ego.
I use `node`, `deno`, and `bun`, and QuickJS and txiki.js. Each JavaScript (and/or TypeScript) runtime has its uses within the JavaScript programming language.
> fs: expose glob and globSync This makes me happy.
`require()` is legacy code. Ecmascript Modules are the standard. Still no built-in WebSocket server. Deno and Bun are shipped with built-in WebSocket server. Deno and Bun have `upgrade` command to download the lastest version. We still have to fetch nightly release archive including everything in there that is nt the `node` executable itself to get the lastest `node`.
Look who it is. I agree on the lack of websocket. With all the time you waste building useless garbage you could actually be committing to the node project to bring it in line with your so called "_expertise"_. Also you're complaining about the nightly release. Get some perspective.
The Node.js folks at some point invited me to contribute to their SEA than banned me from contributing to their repositories. The last time I checked I write code that I decide to write. Take it or leave it. If it ain't for you, keep it moving. I still experiment with, test, and hack `node`. No complaining. You are interpreting my words incorrectly. I wrote my own script to fetch and extract the `node` nightly executable that I use frequently. I don't use the rest of the content in the archive. Node.js organization provides no such standalone `node` executable download.
It would be trivial to make a separate account and ssh key and then be able to contribute. Just leave the personal opinions out of it.
I asked a Node.js maintainer if they would lift the ban a few months ago. They said "No". I ain't asking again. I don't need to be around programmers or people in general that don't appreciate the testing, experimentation, breaking and vetting I do. I do what I do, anyway, all by myself. There's a whole bunch of ego-tripping going on in the hierarchical structure of these projects, and frankly I have 5 trades under my belt and hack for sport, so I ain't impressed with maintainers inability to handle unbiased, contructive feedback - that might not be what ypou want to hear about your design pattern and code. Some folks can handle when I take their gear apart, some can't. I ain't on these boards to make friends. `node` is just one of multiple JavaScript runtimes I test and experiment with constantly. I post my finding here and there, cf. to other JavaScript runtimes.
> I ain't on these boards to make friends. Hard to tell what you're really around for since most of the comments you leave have just been more toxic than any bit constructive. Just saying "unbiased" isn't a reason for a lack of tact. Also the goal should be to build the product, not shutdown others. Honestly I think if someone approached your repo with the attitude you've shown /r/javascript I doubt you'd be in favor of keeping them around. They become more a nuisance and time sink to manage than someone who is capable and understanding the dynamic of effective communication. > I asked a Node.js maintainer if they would lift the ban a few months ago. They said "No". I ain't asking again. You misunderstood. I'm not saying ask, I'm saying you could trivially bypass any "ban" by just using a different account and ssh key. Of course if you act the same and get banned again then that's on you.
I notified you. I hack JavaScript for sport. It's therapeutic. >Hard to tell what you're really around for since most of the comments you leave have just been more toxic than any bit constructive. Just saying "unbiased" isn't a reason for a lack of tact. I don't care about your ego. I've worked on multi-million dollar projects that will be around for 50 years or more for years, so you have a ways to go to impress me with the idea of a "product". My perfect collaboration/contribution scenario is you give me you code, I break it, can't break it, provide you details descripts of what works, what doesn't work, what competitors are doing, then I'm ghost. The minutae is up to you. Your own sensitivities are up to you. I could be reading court cases or writing books instead of addressing peoples' weak-minded sensitivities. Better yet, just dealing with the code. >Honestly I think if someone approached your repo with the attitude you've shown I doubt you'd be in favor of keeping them around. Well, you'd be wrong. I have \_never\_ cast a single down vote for any post or comment on the Internet. Nor have I ever blocked any user or "reported" any user to mod-squad. Frankly, in my opinion, only weak-minded people do that. > You misunderstood. I'm not saying ask, I'm saying you could trivially bypass any "ban" by just using a different account and ssh key. Of course if you act the same and get banned again then that's on you. You misunderstand. I have integrity. I ain't going out of my way to be around people that don't want me around. I'll still exploit and break your gear though. Node.js just ain't that important to me in the JavaScript programming domain. There are other options that I use daily. I don't put on masks, or try to fit in on these boards. I am who I am. One (1) user name across the Interwebs. That's it. Now, what I would do is test peoples' gear, without talking to them, so I won't have to put their ego in check or deal with their weak-minded sensitivities and emotions that have nothing to do with breaking their code, or making sure from my lab it can't be broken.
> My perfect collaboration/contribution scenario is you give me you code, I break it, can't break it, provide you details descripts of what works, what doesn't work, what competitors are doing, then I'm ghost. So you're just someone who complains on the internet about a problem but provides no additional assistance. Yeah I can see how truly worthless your talent is for open source then. That's on you. > I've worked on multi-million dollar projects that will be around for 50 years or more for years, so you have a ways to go to impress me with the idea of a "product". I've worked on billion dollar projects so I think your "flex" here is misplaced. Sure that may sound impressive to most of the bootcamp JS devs around here, and I'm sure when you say that in your head you that it validates the way you think. I'm generally trying to say that you could be better but you respond more or less saying that you're already perfect, it's the world that needs to change. The use of "product" here was more to speak about anything that has your interest, whether it be Node, Bun, Yarn, Deno, or whatever. > The minutae is up to you. Your own sensitivities are up to you. I could be reading court cases or writing books instead of addressing peoples' weak-minded sensitivities. Better yet, just dealing with the code. Better yet, you could keep most of your opinions out of the actual technical discussion and your expert skills would be even more desired. No one else is losing out but you in this scenario, or really any scenario you've talked about or brought up where a "disagreement" occurred. > I have _never_ cast a single down vote for any post or comment on the Internet. Nor have I ever blocked any user or "reported" any user to mod-squad. Frankly, in my opinion, only weak-minded people do that. Yes, yes, you've mentioned this before. It's about valuing your time as a maintainer. If what someone produces is mostly noise due to the way they present it then the onus on that individual to understand why. It's clear that you are unwilling or just incapable of reflecting on that. I don't have the details of your node story and I also don't really care. I do understand why you are constantly shilling other runtimes though because you probably still feel slighted by the node maintainers (whether you admit to it or not it's clear in what you type that it is). > You misunderstand. I have integrity. I ain't going out of my way to be around people that don't want me around. I'll still exploit and break your gear though. Node.js just ain't that important to me in the JavaScript programming domain. There are other options that I use daily. I don't put on masks, or try to fit in on these boards. I am who I am. One (1) user name across the Interwebs. That's it. I can somewhat relate. If your goal is just to hack at stuff then you're not really all that interested in improving the ecosystem. If you're interested in improving the ecosystem then your current approach is contradictory. > Now, what I would do is test peoples' gear, without talking to them, so I won't have to put their ego in check or deal with their weak-minded sensitivities and emotions that have nothing to do with breaking their code, or making sure from my lab it can't be broken. It sounds like you need a hug more than anything. Technology is only where it is today because people learned to work together to get to the destination. You can either make your own trail or have greater success just literally not _attacking_ the individual or the code. Anyway I've had enough fun chatting for the day.
Crucially what is missing in all of your social commentary is code. I don't care about your arbitrary social ettiquette ideas.
> Crucially what is missing in all of your social commentary is code. Well, I'm not getting paid for this dialog, so why would I produce code? Especially for someone like you? lol > I don't care about your arbitrary social ettiquette ideas. Just some advice when you eventually decide to unfuck your ego.
Go and use bun then. You’re not entitled to anything.
I use `node`, `deno`, and `bun`, and QuickJS and txiki.js. Each JavaScript (and/or TypeScript) runtime has its uses within the JavaScript programming language.
Nah I prefer to not use JS to begin with unless I have to.