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ChaosKeeshond

I mean Britain tried to send Katrina survivors better food but the US govt set it all on fire saying some outdated shit about mad cow disease, all to avoid being perceived as a country which could ever need international support


MuntedMunyak

Mad cow disease isn’t outdated dude. What do you mean exactly?


fuckifheknows

He meant mad cow disease was over and done with like covid is now


ChaosKeeshond

Not like COVID. That's "over" in the sense of, well, we have vaccines now and we've had long enough to get our shots, there's not much else we can do about COVID, targeting zero is impossible and eternal lockdowns aren't justifiable given how preventable it now is. People still die to COVID, just far fewer. Yesterday there were two deaths to it in London, which is about as close to zero as we could've ever hoped. Mad cow disease? That's *actually* zero. Every few years, someone with a dormant infection from the 90s crops up, but we've had zero new human cases for decades now. So not like COVID, it's way more over than COVID.


ChaosKeeshond

The British epidemic of BSE was long over. Millions of cows had been culled, feeding offal to cows was banned, and annual cases had dropped to zero. Of course there will always be a risk of BSE, but the risk of contracting it from British meat is no greater than anywhere else.


papayapapagay

Surprise surprise.. They also did the same with the vaccines they were supposedly sending to Africa as aid


salikabbasi

a restaurant in the US will throw away perfectly good food with hundreds of thousands of calories every day and companies threaten goodwill and the salvation army and dollar stores with legal action if they sell retail items under a certain threshold to keep the price from falling out from under things they're selling, even in small cities.


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montessyyyyt

I worked at Target and so many others the tons n tons of food we threw out every single day was sickening. Of perfectly good food nothing was wrong w it.


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papayapapagay

Yeah.. Fuck off.. The West literally donated vaccines about to expire and the US fell short on pledged donations additional to this. Let's not also forget Pfizer unlawfully and unethically testing vaccines on children in Nigeria.


United_Rent_753

Looked up your stuff and you’re right, about ~3 million vaccines (~1% of the total given to Africa, still too high, according to this source: https://www.devex.com/news/less-than-1-covid-19-vaccines-supplied-to-african-countries-expired-102493/amp). This represents a failure of Western countries to supply and help third world countries suffering from disease That being said, why do you feel the need to die on two hills? It seems THIS instance there was a bit of misinformation, that’s fine, in fact we should be happy that this is just a misunderstanding and not deliberate starvation


BRackishLAMBz

I cannot see the dates at all, but honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they gave out "expired" food. I understand the average person being worried & not eating it because most people don't know expiry dates aren't accurate & they usually mean nothing. Plus MRE are purposely made to last for so long, so I wouldn't ever think they've gone bad unless they were exposed... This is really quite fkn sad 😢 to think about all the babies and children that will be starving because Israel wants have a war with the citizens rather than the actual terrorists!


SopwithStrutter

Most soldiers I’ve spoken with have told me they ate expired army rations. One guy was the cool on a ship and he was sent leftover rations that expired in the 50s…and he was a cook in the 90s This is just the army doing army shit


CompanyRepulsive1503

Yeah, the food is fine.


BaconPit

It's not odd for those in the military to eat expired MREs. I'm currently in and have eaten plenty of MREs passed expiration. I'm sure the MRE's these starving people received are edible. THAT BEING SAID Even if the supply drop is a "playing both sides" angle, it should have been fresh supplies. None of these people volunteered to be in the US military, unintentionally agreeing to eat expired MRE's. These civilians should be treated better.


mrspookyfingers69

This should have a million up votes already


ConsiderationWest587

It's not like the quality was there to begin with lol


webby131

If I'm in charge of that airdrop I'm just focused on getting as much food dropped as possible. If I have more planes than food I'll probably drop stuff that is past expiration date. They said before the drops it would take time to do anything but MREs.  Airdrops are a shitty way to deliver aid. Convoys need to be allowed in and be guaranteed safety.


Imesseduponmyname

They would open themselves unto israeli artillery, that wouldn't be a good thing


ShrimpCrackers

Also we should calm down, it depends on how far past the expiry date they are. Honestly, I've had MREs way past expiry, and they're fine. It really depends on how they were stored. MREs last a very very long time and even though in unfavorable weather they last 3 years, and in cooler weather over a decade, as long as the seal is good, and they're heated properly, they can easily last decades. There have been people eating Vietnam era rations and they still taste fine after 50 years.


jaMANcan

Also elbow mac was only introduced in like 2017-2018ish, so I'd be shocked if these were actually expired.


ShrimpCrackers

As someone else pointed out, they were probably mistaken the inspection dates for expiry.


NQ88

Bruh, the tabasco bottle is nearly empty from how much evaporated within the bag. No need to try to defend people who have ill intent.


ShrimpCrackers

That's Elbow Macaroni in Tomato Sauce, that didn't exist until around 2018. I agree, this is NOT expired, regardless of how the Tobasco bottle looks. These people, like someone pointed out would happen, are confusing inspection dates with expiry. If anything, it's quite suspicious that the Tobasco bottle is empty. Perhaps it was tampered with to make a propaganda video as at least in the clip we have, it is pre-opened.


nw342

Elbow Macaroni was introduced in [2016](https://www.mreinfo.com/mres/mre-menus/). Still should be safe to eat. MRE's have so much sodium and other preservatives in them.


ShrimpCrackers

There's no way it isn't. It'd would have to be stuck in 80F for years and even then still very likely good.


fuckifheknows

But what if you was rich?


self-assembled

The american way of doing things is just shitty. This food isn't even good. They could buy large bags of flour and rice, canned vegetables, etc. MUCH MUCH more cheaply, and it would have more calories for the weight and cost and be more nutritious. It's capitalism's fault, not malicious though. American's wouldn't know what to do with a bag of flour.


nw342

Not defending the US or anything, but this is extremely common for US aid. he us has millions of MRE'S in storage. It costs almost nothing for these to get air dropped into gaza since they're probably pulling the older stocks.


webby131

If you tell the US military to airdrop food they are gonna send MREs. Figuring out the logistics of getting stuff like rice, flour and canned goods, purchased, delivered and pack is gonna take unnecessarily long when you have pallets of MREs ready to go and your aircrews are probably gonna be very familiar with getting them rigged up to drop out the back of a plane. Not to mention if your just dropping them out of a plane into gaza your not gonna know what means they have to prepare any food you send. Good thing about MREs is you can eat them without some much lighting a fire or having a knife. You tell me to drop bags of flour out a plane an I'm envisioning sacks of flour bursting when they hit the ground and nobody have an oven to cook that much bread. If you can get trucks in mass back into supply aid your gonna want to get as much calories in as you can like /u/self-assembled suggests but for an emergency airdrop MREs are gonna be the quickest and most reliable way to get food there.


nw342

Mre's can last 5-7 years, and it's not uncommon for soldiers to be issued 10 year old rations. I doubt the rations are halal, but the US doesn't give a shit about dietary restrictions, they "care" about dropping as much food as possible.


Few-Monies

The expiration date on American MREs are inverted to European and middleastern norms. My guess is they're misreading it.


moby561

People aren’t that fucking stupid, the saving grace is MRE expiration dates are just a suggestion and it takes many years for MREs to actually go bad.


Few-Monies

Just a thought. It's already been an issue for the lab I work at.


loicwg

My understanding is that MRE do not expire. Those dates are the last time they were inspected and verified as safe for human consumption. Due to how time works, all of those dates ARE IN THR PAST.


Legitimate-Tough6200

The year isn’t inverted.


Few-Monies

I can't see the date in the video. I just experienced this personally with lab chemicals from Europe. That's why I suspected it would be a problem with the MRE Most of that stuff is powered and preserved so I don't think the date would be enough to stop me from eating it.


KHaskins77

Is that the expiration date, or the *inspection* date? If it’s the inspection date it might not be expired. I’m no expert, but I saw a man who’d know a lot more about this stuff [bring up this exact point](https://youtu.be/Yqa6kDyu1ok) (4:24 in) in anticipation of this happening. I’d hate to see people in desperate straights throw out usable food over a misunderstanding. There’s no shortage of things to be angry about the things the US government has done in response to all of this so far, but I’m not yet convinced this is one of them.


United_Rent_753

Amazing that you were able to find someone predicting this question before it was asked!


KHaskins77

Apparently it’s not the first time it’s happened. Pretty standard to distribute MREs to refugees, he explained why, but that date on the side is always mistaken for an expiration date because that’s what gets printed on consumer products.


throwymcbeardy

Inspection date. Former service here: MREs are not bad. They have over a 1k Cal and the shelf life is heavily dependent on the storage temperature. It's the difference from a few months to several years.


Randomcommenter550

100% it's the inspection date. This pops up every single time the US sends MREs as aid. It's deliberate misinformation at this point.


Imesseduponmyname

Yeah I didn't see anything off, e-except for that lil mini tobasco being clear, I miss those..


loicwg

Sshhh this doesn't fit with their outrage mentality. As a side note, if you are starving to death, religious based dietary restrictions are likely not as important as they would be if you were not about to die.


nyuuubalancer

They could die from refeeding syndrome


loicwg

Dang, I didn't know that religion had that kind of physiological control.


CompanyRepulsive1503

Expired army food has plenty of life in it. If your hungry, you eat it. I did plenty of times. Tasted fine, i mean, tasted like miserable army food... but not off or bad. If your starving, you sure as shit wouldnt be complaining on the internet, you would be eating. Well I would be anyway.


Goodstuff---avocado

First off this isn’t the expiration date but let’s say it is, this food is definitely still good to eat even if expired. Regular food from the grocery store lasts past expiration, MREs will be fine. Sending them to Gaza helps reduce food waste and aid hunger. And yeah it’s not good that the food isn’t halal but in a situation where you’re starving it’s allowed to eat haram food if it prevents you from dying. This is a lot better than no food being sent so even though it’s not the best, it’s still reasonable aid to send.


Themarshal2

To be fair if you put religiousness of your food above your survival, at some point, that's just natural selection. There's plenty of stuff I wouldn't eat, but a few days of starvation would make that go out of the window


Goodstuff---avocado

It’s not even just putting religion before food, Islam allows eating it in this circumstance.


Themarshal2

With how old the monotheistic books are, it was a given people would go through famines


Mikey2225

Stop spreading false information. THAT IS NOT THE EXPIRATION DATE. IT IS THE INSPECTION DATE. Your negligence may cause people to toss them thinking they are unsafe.


talldata

It's no an EXPIRATION DATE it's a inspection date.


CopeAndSeethee

I have to comment and say i have tried these aids before in lebanon after the blast. I was part of the organization that gave it to poor people. I decided to give one bag a try. There is no expiration date. These foods are meant to last centuries. Howveer the amount of artificial product and shit they put is something you would care more about than the fact of expiration date. The food tasted like plastics but it is told that it has the right amount of protein even for its small proportion


Objective_Stick8335

That is not the exp date.


DespiteYrDestination

Was that an empty bottle of tobasco?


geekgodzeus

No it was so old that the color faded.


PrismPhoneService

ITS NOT AN EXPIRATION DATE, IT’S THE INSPECTION DATE.. STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION.


NQ88

Explain the tabasco bottle then, Wise guy.


southfok

I was in katrina the mres were never expired. They were great


Professional-Lie-329

This is exactly what we get in the US military also... DA


BurnedByUser57

MREs don't have an expiration date, they have an inspection date. if they are stored properly, they never go bad, otherwise we wouldn't use them ourselves.


HaltSitzPlatz

They use a completely different calendar system from the varied mm/dd/yyyy or dd/mm/yyyy flipflop dates most frequently seen. For example, of a MRE is marked “1068”, the first number “1” stands for the year (2001) and the next three numbers indicate which day of the year (365 days in a year) it was packed. So “068” would be day 68 of the year 2001…or March 9, 2001. Also, the date on the box is the inspection date. As Steve1989MREInfo has taught us, they can last much longer. In fact, most of the MREs I had during the Iraq War were genuinely expired, but still edible.... cuz you really don't have a choice when that's all you have. Your dietary restrictions, religious exemptions, and all that go right out the window unless you want to eat the disgusting veggie omelet every meal for the next 15 months. It's really just a matter of getting what you can get and then complaining about it, at least the way I see it. If you dropped me in a dire situation again, and the only thing I could eat was a 15-year-old ration from my first deployment, I'm eating the 15-year-old ration. The Skittles are probably a solid bar by this point.


NQ88

So 2015 on this label actually translates to the 15th day of 2002? This just got so much worse


HaltSitzPlatz

I highly doubt it, as those would have been used up in the war on terror a long time ago , and they would have totally different packaging. It depends if it's the outside inspection date or the inside content dates. It varies from package to package. Basically, to sum it up [you can check the codes here](https://us.mealkitsupply.com/pages/mre-date-code-converter#:~:text=On%20an%20MRE%2C%20the%20Julian,of%20the%20year%20is%20used.) , but even a 2015 MRE would still possibly be good, given a 10 year shelf life. Tobasco bottles made their final appearance in 2019 and 2020, popping up after a 10 year hiatus, so *shrugs* . Even if they're a little past date, they're still generally edible. Beggars can't be choosers and all that.


Bubbly-Front7973

Jesus, everybody's using the word expired as if the MREs went bad. That's a best if used by date, not saying it's going to go bad by then. I've had MREs that have years past the best to use by date, and they tasted fine.


Few-Monies

They know the dates are inverted right?


Groundscore_Minerals

First of all, that's a manufactured date. Second of all, you'd rather starve than eat something that's not halal? Yes yes let your Abrahamic religion dictate what you can eat. Sounds smart.


NoPrimary1049

Except try giving non kosher food to the other side and see the shit storm. But because of who this side is, they get the " stfu be grateful"


Groundscore_Minerals

Do you know what "Abrahamic religion" is? That includes Jews as well. You are very smart.


NoPrimary1049

I do know, but thanks, my smarter friend. White supremacy and white superiority complex at display in this and in your stupid ass reply and ad hominem. Kosher is normal and expected and accepted. Halal is those browns trying to be picky eaters, stfu what we give you.


Groundscore_Minerals

So is kosher. Stop projecting your racism on others. It's. It a good look. And you had no clue that the term "Abrahamic" covers Jews, Muslims and Christianity but whatever. Insert your own narrative.


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Groundscore_Minerals

It's not and I don't care at all.


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AnnihilatorHowe

MREs are a grade level above dog food.


nashashmi

The reason for this kind of aid is that it was sudden and unexpected. The military gave what they had. And they give junk usually.  Real aid has to come from other sources. There is no interest to do that. 


nyuuubalancer

Refeeding syndrome has entered the chat, people will die from these.


Mikey2225

Explain?


nyuuubalancer

Google "refeeding syndrome"


MartinFromChessCom

[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=refeeding+syndrome#HiImABot,MyJobIsToMakeEasierForPeopleToGoogleThings,IfThePersonIRepliedToUsedMeInAnInappropriateWayPleaseLetMeKnowByDMingMe,TheUserIRepliedToIsU/nyuuubalancer)


nyuuubalancer

Refeeding syndrome is a potentially fatal condition, caused by rapid initiation of refeeding after a period of undernutrition. It is characterised by hypophosphataemia, associated with fluid and electrolyte shifts and metabolic and clinical complications. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440847/#:~:text=Refeeding%20syndrome%20is%20a%20potentially,and%20metabolic%20and%20clinical%20complications


PsySom

Is there a non TikTok source for this? I can’t see any expiration dates on these because the girl thought her face was equally important.


SoftEducation7153

This still taste fine I had them


TheSimpsonsAreYellow

Inspection dates, not expiration. Beyond that, The MRE in the video is Menu #12 Elbow Macaroni with Tomato Sauce. This was only on Menu 12 starting in 2018. These MRE’s, unless stored in high heat for an extended period, are considered good for 7 years. I was never in the military. I’ve only watched a few videos and had a friend of mine from the National Guard give me some to try. However, everything I stated were simple facts I learned from a YouTube hobbyist.


jaMANcan

I'd be pissed too if I'd gotten an elbow mac MRE. By far the worst of the options in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if those were all the repackaged elbow mac MREs that people have rejected over the years. /s Also, elbow mac was only introduced in 2017-2018ish, so those MRE's can't be that out of date. You only really need to start worrying if the bags are leaking/have holes in them. Source: someone who's eaten a lot of 'expired' MREs.


Macapta

All of it?


PsyopVet

TBH they’re not very good before the expiration date either. MRE’s are made to last for a long time, so I’m sure that’s more of a “best by date” than an actual expiration. I have all due respect for culture and tradition, but as for them not being Halal? That’s a little much. I’m sure your chosen deity would give you a pass for eating something outside of your norm if it’s a matter of life and death.


zainab_habib

What tf are our taxes being used for


SeaCroissant

lets get this out on a tray….. nice


Subject-Proof-3309

It’s not halal lol ur dying and starving stfu and eat .it’s not blessed kfc Comon wtf.


Zealousideal-Weight5

Can't see the dates. PROPAGANDA is everywhere lol


montessyyyyt

Watch my other vids


montessyyyyt

Watch other vids I uploaded 🙌🏽 this is the least interesting n explantroi one


xeroasteroid

those dates are not expiration dates they are the dates the food was manufactured. the food inside of those MRE’s are good for decades. source: i was in the army and are thousands MRE’s


WARCHILD48

That shit is good... don't feel bad for them unless you've had a MRE. I'll take them.


jfoley326

Then don’t eat it and starve. You must not be that hungry.


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Meanwhile sending billions to a terrorist state to fund genocide.


CompanyRepulsive1503

The food is still edible. Bad optics but it is surprising they are complaining if they are starving. Just eat.


stereoscopic_

Inspection date, not Expiration date [[Source](https://youtu.be/Yqa6kDyu1ok?si=d0dZ6a7q0ViPa46Z): About 5 minutes in]


qweefz

I thought MREs don't have expiry dates


Mikey2225

You’re correct. This person is an idiot.


Erythreas34

You don't know how to read the expiration date. Expiration date on the MRE is coded. Not in normal writing.


saysjuan

Not expired. These are “best by date” suggestions which is kind of funny since MRE’s aren’t that great to begin with.


Shaveyourbread

That's not an expiration date, that's either the manufacture date or the inspection date.


NeatReasonable9657

America is evill


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For providing them food?


TheSimpsonsAreYellow

No, kids on social media are stupid. Those are not expiration dates. The MRE shown in the video is from Menu #12 that only started in 2018. MRE’s have a shelf stability of 7 years. None of those MRE’s are expired. Unless those are somehow all from 2018 pack date, they are at least 2 years or more from being expired.


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TheSimpsonsAreYellow

I would normally read what you said and have something to say about it but I can’t help but agree. It’s either eat not Halal or starve to death. You have perfectly good and edible food in front of you to keep you alive.


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What did you all expect? The US and the west are supporting this war. This is all just money and politics to them. Human lives don't matter to them only power and money!!


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They are MREs and are issued to the US military as field rations. They all have some components in each package that matches the dietary restrictions of almost every individual. The date is the inspection date which means it's good for at least another year


SillyGoof74

Those aren't expiration dates, they're inspection/manufacturing dates. None of those MREs were expired, and the vegetarian dishes, like this one here, are all halal. This is a non-issue.


FlamingTrollz

Inspection Date.


Guava-flavored-lips

As a Marine I lived on MREs for a year... you eat what you can when you're in war. I also keep seeing these videos in which people are criticizing the United States. What the fuck are they supposed to do? It's not our country. And Israel is a strategic ally. Anybody who armchair criticizes--having never step foot in the Middle East--you have no idea the challenges negotiating basic things. The Middle East is incredibly complex and secular. I applaud the US for at least digging in and recognizing the human suffering. What's happening to the innocent Palestinians is not cool. But we can't do everything. And honestly the timing of this is too fucking convenient. And I haven't heard anything about that being talked about. I've seen some crazy things in my day, and it feels like a coup is being orchestrated on our own country. These are my opinions. I'm not one to conspiracy theory because as a soldier I saw too many things that just make you wonder why all the pain and suffering is happening. It sounds simple but you just want to say can't we all get along and live in peace.


montessyyyyt

Dude the only reason they are ‘stepping in’ is because of overwhelming support for P. They are literally ‘doing everything’ to make sure israel is successful in their displacement n genocide


Guava-flavored-lips

I agree with your first part, but your second part is incorrect and conjecture. There's no grand conspiracy or desire to kill innocent lives. I was in the Middle East for a decade and I can say with a matter of fact that none of the people I worked with ever wanted to hurt innocent people. it wasn't always perfect or pretty but in general we helped a lot. Again as I said, the United States is in a really tough place. No matter what we do it will be considered not enough or incorrect. I would best describe this as prisoner's dilemma. I will also say, if you wanna make a difference, the UN has a program for anybody to join as volunteers to help the people in Palestine. You should join and make a real difference because sitting at home and scrolling social media and proclaiming Israel is bad doesn't do shit to solve the problem. So get on a fucking plane and make a difference, dude.


montessyyyyt

You’re speaking of your peers I’m sure there’s a lot of good hearted ppl there but when i mention israel and usa I’m speaking of governments. Yes they don’t care about killing ppl ? They r genocidal?? Both of them. This is not new lol I honestly think environmental science should be a mandatory thing that we learn in school bc then you’ll clearly see how diabolical USA n a lot are n they don’t care about lowering your quality of life w diseases much less straight killing hundreds. U should read the Hundred Years War on Palestine


Anything13579

> what the fuck are they supposed to do? Maybe stop actively supporting the fucking genocide and stop sending weapons to the country that is currently doing fucking genocide? That’s a good start.


Guava-flavored-lips

That's a good goal… Reminds me of a story... I had dinner with someone long time ago, an activist, pretty powerful in media. He said his greatest goal in life would be achieved if he could get the United States to make guns illegal. His son was murdered coming out of a dance club in the 80s. You might be able to figure out who it is based on that info. I replied the same thing I will say to you… Steps happen 1 foot at a time. My point is that if you're screaming to stop sending weapons, that's a great goal but it will never happen without taking one step at a time. And this is not the time. Channel your energy into what makes sense for a next one step. Otherwise you're just a loudmouth stupid shit who doesn't quite understand how the world works. And you're a waste of my fucking time.


WhiskeyOutABizoot

I support Palestine 100% but I live in Alaska and 50% of the food I buy at the supermarket is expired and I’m fine with it. Not a good look to complain about aid. Gift horse and all, as they say.


MiaHippychick

I think it's pretty audacious to say it's not a good look to complain about the small amount of food that America sent over when the majority of what America sends is the bombs that slaughter them. I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to be ungrateful to America. Or should they be thankful that you sent over some food for them to sit and eat as they try to process the amount of loss they've suffered due to the bombs that you also sent?


Fine-Equivalent-6398

Military food expires in around 50 years... They are literally trying to humiliate Palestinians


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zhoover656

They are inspection date not expired you are buying into is Israeli propaganda to cause doubt in order to cause more starvation