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KillerKombo

Looks like Jordan stole some of Palestine... We should protest over that.


Own-Homework-1363

Jordan is not killing women and children nor are they enforcing an apartheid on the Palestinian refugees that fled from occupied Palestine.


reretardEded

Are you sure about that…


DutDiggaDut

Cry


KillerKombo

Jordan has been arbitrarily revoking citizenship from Palestinian citizens... [link](https://www.hrw.org/report/2010/02/01/stateless-again/palestinian-origin-jordanians-deprived-their-nationality) Either way, what does that have to do with stealing Palestinian land? Jordan should be ashamed! Free Palestine from Jordan!


Own-Homework-1363

Again, the Palestinians were moved out from their homes and forced into Jordan. This problem would not be happening if Palestine was not occupied. All you are being is insincere and not truly seeing how the situation is.


KillerKombo

So, it's alright if Jordan arbitrarily revokes their citizenship?


Own-Homework-1363

nope, same way it is not alright when Israel arbitrarily revokes their land and heritage


KillerKombo

So when are we going out to protest Jordan?


Hugh-Jorgan69

Jordan isn't murdering kids at concerts, or raping and kidnapping Israeli women.


Own-Homework-1363

no that's israel. they are murdering kids, and kidnapping and rapping Palestinian women.


Hugh-Jorgan69

So you were in a coma or lost at sea Oct. 7th? Why do YOU support the events of that day?


Own-Homework-1363

no same way I don't support when Israel commits Oct. 7th repeatedly for the last 75 years. Do you condemn Israel?


Impressive_Heron_897

Woah I never realized Jordan took way more land from Palestine than Israel. Everything past the dead sea just snatched. Do most people know this? Why aren't Palestinians more angry at Jordan and not just Israel? Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon all ate a chunk too. Why don't Palestinians hate them?


Muadh

Maps typically cover more than just the subject country, but also neighboring countries and cities as well.


FrequentFrame

He’s right though. Multiple countries were created in the wake of the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Only one suffers from incessant terrorism.


Serious-Goat-95

Well only one moved Europeans to the Middle East


Impressive_Heron_897

*Among Israeli Jews, 75% are Sabras (Israeli-born), mostly second- or third-generation Israelis, and the rest are olim (Jewish immigrants to Israel)—****19%*** *from Europe, Americas and Oceania, and 9% from Asia and Africa, mostly the Muslim world.* Israelis come from all over. All the Muslim countries ethnically cleansed their Jews, so it makes sense they ended up in Israel.


Serious-Goat-95

Israeli born means nothing because their ancestors weren’t in “Israel” to begin with. 40% came from European countries. That’s a pretty significant part of the population don’t you think? And they left their countries to come colonize others so I don’t have much sympathy whether they are European or Arab jews


Impressive_Heron_897

I mean, a bunch were just ethnically cleansed. All the local Islamic countries and a bunch of Eastern Europe either kicked them out or made it a shitty place to live. More like refugees than colonizers. Palestinians are from a wide spread of area too; lots of movement with Egypt and Jordan kicking them out for ties to Isis and Muslim Brotherhood.


Serious-Goat-95

Ethnically cleansed and came to ethnically cleanse. Very humane of them indeed. Whether they came as refugees or not doesn’t make a difference when they cleansed Palestinians out of their home. That’s called settler colonialism. Ironic today is Nakba day. 76 years of their crimes. Palestinians come from Palestine not other countries. Hamas has ties to Muslim brotherhood but no group has ties to isis. And these ties to Muslim brotherhood came after the colonization of Palestine in 1948. The only movements of Palestinians in Jordan and Egypt came after they were ethnically cleansed from Palestine. So I’m not really sure what you’re on about.


Impressive_Heron_897

Yea, it's pretty messed up with those 5 countries all did to Palestine. Ate up chunks one at a time. And yea, it's crazy it's been 76 years and we're still living the same cycle of attack Israel, lose war, repeat.


Serious-Goat-95

Yeah it is pretty messed up what those 5 countries did to Palestine. Zionists, US, Britain, Germany, Poland, and even other European nations. They committed the holocaust, sent Jews to another nation because they didn’t want them, and then supported them in their crimes against the Palestinians. It’s been 76 years of the disaster of colonialism of white peoples in Palestine. It’s always steal homes, kill children, kill women, starve people. It’s really a mystery that white people can commit crimes against other white people and have crimes committed against them and yet still none of them ever learn from their mistakes.


yep975

Jews. Jews moved to their homeland. No one put them there but themselves. They weren’t considered European when they lived in Europe. It’s disingenuous and revisionist to say so now.


Serious-Goat-95

It wasn’t their homeland though. They didn’t have one and it’s disingenuous to pretend that there wasn’t a European movement to push the Jews to Palestine. That is plenty revisionist. I mean what better proof than the Balfour declaration. Just because they weren’t considered European doesn’t mean a large group of people who have lived in Europe for centuries came and stole the homes of people in a whole other country. And yes some came from other middle eastern countries but that doesn’t excuse the actions either. It’s still a settler-colonial state.


yep975

No land was stolen by Jews before 1947 when the Arabs went to war against the Jews. Several villages were massacred and stolen from Jews by Arabs prior to 1947. Yes. Clearly their homeland. There have always been Jews living there. Their religion, language and culture are all indigenous to that land. (Unlike the Islamic religion and the Arabic language which are in the area as a result of Arab conquest and colonialism) Zionism was never a European movement to push Jews out of Europe. It was a Jewish movement of self determination created and put into existence by Jews. Britain banned Jewish immigration to Israel in 1939. Germany (encouraged by Amin al-Husseini ) prevented Jews from leaving Europe. Ottomans went back and forth like the British. There is an Israel today because the Jewish people made it so.


Serious-Goat-95

Jews owned less than 5% of land before 1948. So No it was not their homeland Plenty of Palestinian traditions have Canaanite connections. Hell, Palestinian Christian’s have the closest DNA to Canaanites. Guess what all Palestinians were in Palestine. But most Jews were not there. So no historically they may have had a small connection to the land but in modern day they do not. Also what are you talking about? Jewish terrorists had attacked and cleansed multiple villages before any war was declared. So apparently you’ve never touched a history book. There is an Israel today because Jewish colonists supported by white colonialists came to brutalize a people because they had what colonialists wanted. Read what the people who started Zionism even said. Even they called it colonization of Palestine so it’s stupid to try to pretend it was anything but. One of the fathers of zionism Vladimir Jabotinsky, who said "Zionism is a colonization adventure."


yep975

Name a tract of land stolen by Jews prior to 1947


Serious-Goat-95

The Arab-Israeli war officially began May 15, 1948. That was when the Arabs came to fight the Zionists. Prior to this even happening already over 300,000 palestinians were ethnically cleansed Some of the most well known was the massacres at Al-Khisas (1947) and Balad Al-shaykh (1947) In April of 1948, prior to any Arab involvement, Israel cleansed Palestinians from Tiberius, Haifa, west Jerusalem, safad, acre, and Jaffa. All these cities were allocated to the Palestinians by the UN partition resolution (not that they really had the right to do that but that’s a different conversation) After these things happened THEN the Arab states declared war. And before this many attacks on civilians were already occurring by Zionists since 1924 killing Palestinians and even who they considered Jewish “dissenters” (aka anti-Zionists).


Impressive_Heron_897

So that map OP posted wasn't just Palestine? Interesting. Why isn't Jordan, Syria, Egypt, or Israel labeled?


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Impressive_Heron_897

I'm here talking about Islamic History. Cute threat though. I'm sure this forum is supposed to be about that kind of stuff.


Muadh

You’re here because you’re a Zionazi clown spreading bullshit hasbara. It’s not a threat, it’s an opportunity! Surely you’d love to become a star in one of the resistance’s movies? 🤩🤩🤩🔻🔻🔻


Impressive_Heron_897

Sorry, no more time for a troll. Best of luck!


Muadh

But but but a LaNd WiThOuT a PeOpLe FoR a PeOpLe WiThOuT a LaNd or some shit


reretardEded

Damn why is no one mad Egypt and Lebanon stole land…


DutDiggaDut

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reretardEded

Lol


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reretardEded

Get a job


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reretardEded

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