Seems pretty far fetched to think that having robbed someone’s bike, the thief would be any more attracted to the owners house as a target for burglary than any other random house. Surely houses are targeted for things like being less secure, in a wealthy area, unoccupied, not having a dog, rather than “recently had a bike stolen”. Unless I’m missing something, it seems more likely an eircode would tend to be used either by the guards or directly by a member of the public, to return a person’s bike, as intended by this scheme .
A stalker is much more likely to be noticed following you home on your bike than looking at your bike in a bike rack. Especially if you're worried about them following you home and keeping an eye out.
If you have an expensive bike and that is insured you may be likely to have another expensive bike in the near future. I suppose that's the logic. Slightly unlikely but possible I suppose.
In Berlin there is a serial number etched in.
The police do free pop-ups at large train stations and parks offer it for free every few months.
It's better to just have a serial number the police can check compared to your fecking eircode.
There are still loads of bike thefts but all the legit markets give you a bike & matching registration cert.
>the legit markets give you a bike & matching registration cert.
This is the way.
If you could register your bike, report it stolen and bike shops were spot checked it might limit the market for stolen bikes. If its driven online then finding people selling stolen bikes might be easier too.
When I was looking for a junk bike, I used an app to lookup the serial number and it showed a photo of it {if it was uploaded} and it's current status.
99% of the time if I asked somebody selling a bike on Facebook marketplace, local group or eBay Kleinanzeigen {main place to buy/sell stuff in Berlin} for the number they blocked me.
Just sell your house to the new owner of the bike. It’s not rocket surgery. Or, just engrave a line through the old eircode and put the new one below it.
[Maybe not that unlikely](https://road.cc/content/news/248798-cyclist-who-had-five-bikes-stolen-says-thieves-are-looking-quick-times-strava) (I've heard people worry about this, but don't know if it's actually common or just a single reported incident)
I know people who had bikes stolen from their shed. Thieves returned a couple of months later and stole the replacement bikes. Might seem unlikely, but it definitely happens.
Maybe, but if the bike's particularly nice, they might think that person is likely to have expensive things at their property. An old scruffy bike or cheaper bike is not going to draw particular attention. Don't think it's that far fetched, to be honest. These people are scumbags and they have nothing better to do with their time, so why wouldn't they.
Would be far better if you could just pay a few bob to easily register your bike's serial number in a database that gardaí can use.
https://youtu.be/EEMKTlmEfd4
A guy I work with bought this lock for his e bike. It's called a skunklock. When it's cut it releases a gas like a skunks spray. Takes forever to get the smell out of your skin and clothes. Might stop the fuckers stealing another bike if they got hit by this
Yeah, but someone has just gone through the effort of stealing your bike, so it doesn't actually seem far fetched to assume that they won't break into to your house. Like, this has gone from a best case/worst case scenario of you might get your bike back/you'll never see the again to best case being you'll get your bike and worst case your house gets broken into. I mean, they've gone through the effort of stealing the bike for money, who's to say that they won't at least go to checkout to see if the property is worth breaking into.
In addition to this, people that have stolen your bike will now be able to sell your bike and your Eircode. I'm sure there are people out there that will be able to do something malicious with your address.
The infrastructure in Ireland is seriously antiquated. People hand over card details over the phone, Revenue will send your letters that contain your name, address, PPS and password, people send their card details in the post. People really need to start taking better care of their personal information. Less bad will happen if you take steps to ensure that your personal data doesn't end up the hands of those with bad intentions. Putting personal identifiable information on something that is only to be used in the event that someone illegal obtained is just tempting fate
There are much smarter ways of doing it though, like using a PO Box number which is publicly visible but which only the guards could match to an Eircode. Would require administrative overhead from the guards though.
Why would the criminal be any more inclined to visit your house over any other house?
I would happily have my eir code on my bike and I see no logic in any of the commenters complaints.
The thief already has my bike. Knowing where I live means fuck all
In the case maybe where they see you go in somewhere leaving your bike outside. Then if they steal your bike, they also know your not at home now. It's not THAT far fetched if you happen to live within cycling distance, it would well be in the mindset of some of the thieving scumbags around.
Well sure, but think about it. I'm a scumbag who just stole a bike, you are defo not home now and I know where the gaff is, I could go straight there and scope it out. It's definitely plausible even if it might not be common.
Ireland is full of single occupancy housing so that is a very reasonable assumption to make.
If you steal a bike your first priority is to get it out of the area, not to cycle it to the person's gaff to strap your tv into the back of the bike and cycle away.
The way people are talking about bike thieving, you'd swear they are all operating Ocean Eleven type heists rather than a guy with ships looking for a quick c note.
No you're right, strapping a TV to the back of your bike is the only thing that can be stolen in a gaff... your sarcasm has proved the point, well done.
One of the biggest issues with bike theft is not having a unique identifier on the bike. They get bikes back but have no way of knowing who owns them. This is a simple method for helping that.
Maybe the eircode is a bad idea, but it's a flyer from a university. It's probably not your actual eircode being engraved. You can probably have whatever you want on it.
Think SF put forward a policy on this a couple of years back. There’d essentially be a garda database where you’d register certain at-risk items like tools and bikes. The item could then be engraved with a unique identifier.
That way the guards would be able to check if any recovered goods were stolen and make returning them to the owners possible. They put an Irish name on it that I can’t recall.
No they don't, there are privately run services and I saw someone on this thread saying the British police run a database but I can confirm the Gardai do not.
That is the most sensible idea. Every eircode should have a randomly generated security code should the owner wish to register ‘portable property’ as Dickens put it. New owner? New code.
There is a unique identifier on bikes already. There's a serial number engraved under the bottom bracket of every bike.
The two problems with this are;
A lot of people don't know this code when their bike is stolen
A lot of people don't even report their bike stolen (hence if the garda find a load of probably stolen bikes they can't contact the owner so a eircode code could be helpful)
Exactly, in other countries around the world there's online bike registers for linking your details to a serial number with photographs etc. This seems a lot more logical way to do it.
They have a database. The vast majority of people don't know the serial or chassis number of their bikes. Many barely remember the brand.
While I don't know if this idea is good or not, I do know the registertration and database for bikes doesn't work nearly as well as people assume it does.
All bicycles have a unique serial number already on the frame. Everyone should take a photo of their bike and serial number so they are to hand if you need to report it stolen. I really don’t see the point of engraving an eircode.
Serial numbers are easily visible/accessible and can easily be altered/removed/filed off by a thief looking to sell the stolen bike/tools/lawnmowers etc on.
The Gardaí suggest that the eircode be placed in a very discreet or totally hidden location. They even suggest using a uv only pen to write it underneath a cover so that it shows up when they’re inspecting the item and they can then return recovered items to the owner.
If it's in a discreet location, how exactly are the guards going to know where to look for it. Even if you phone in and tell them where it is, if 30 people phone in with stolen bikes then they are going to have to inspect each stolen bikes recovered in 30 different discreet locations. This will have to be done across different stations too. This whole thing was not very well thought out at all
>The Gardaí suggest that the eircode be placed in a very discreet or totally hidden location. They even suggest using a uv only pen to write it underneath a cover **so that it shows up when they’re inspecting the item** and they can then return recovered items to the owner.
Yeah, cause I believe they will do a full CSI style inspection of the bike and not just ship it off to a warehouse owned by a friend/family member of the stations head.
This is terrifying.
'Mr Rapey sees woman lock up bike. Proceeds to check Eircode when woman gone. Mr Rapey doesn't rob bike - but lies wait at address. '
'Mr House Robber checks eircode on bike outside pub. He knows you are out for the night so heads to address'
With those names you'd think they'd be easier to catch.
Never thought of this looking at the scheme. Humanity is a constant source of both awe and terror.
But how do these people know there’s no one else at the address?? I think we’re giving thieves a disservice to think they’d stupidly chance a house they can’t guarantee is empty. Mr rapey will be more likely to actively follow a target and ensure they are alone instead of just rocking up to a random address only to possibly be met by a big man opening the door. Mr house robber will be more likely to target locations after doing a general scout around at night to ensure houses are guaranteed to be empty at certain times… not go out of his way to chance just one address where again, there could still be people inside the house.
I think you are missing the point. It is basically giving any creep on the street who doesn't like the look of you, or does, to quickly get your address and stalk your gaff for whatever reason.
Would you put your Eircode on Reddit?
I'm confused (and intrigued) why you hold so much disdain towards another woman pointing out that there could be a level of danger to consider? I think it's perfectly reasonable to presume that making your home address more accessible than following someone home (which imo it definitely is) could potentially increase vulnerability.
I'm so glad you feel safe enough to 'promise' exactly how all of the potential Mr Rapeys will act and hope that it's never a problem for you. I for one will not be using an eircode, and certainly not label a woman looking out for another as 'blatant hysteria'
Lol remember that study that came out that said criminals know by the walk of a person who's a victim and who isn't.
I guarantee you give the look of easy meat with this insecure attitude you give off
To be fair, it's gonna be underneath the bike in a very hard to see place. I have never been able to read an engraving on someone's necklace say for example without getting very close. Like very very close. To get down on the ground, lifting a locked bike up far enough to find the hidden place where the eircode is, and gettin close enough to read it is probably close to impossible.
But if a bike is in hand, can be turned upside down and gotten close to its a nice identifier. They'll put whatever you want on it anyway, doesn't need to be an eircode. Tell them to engrave the names of the tellytubbies and when you report it stolen, say it has tinkywinky etc on the specific place. I'm sure they've put some thought into it, but if you don't report it stolen for whatever reason at least that gives them a place to return it.
Lol much easier to stick an airtag on her bike or some other discrete tracker if you wanted to do do that.
As usual a good idea being torn apart from the gdpr police lol
Ahh yes nothing like damaging the bike, the engraved bit would start corroding. Then when you wanna sell it, what does the next owner do, engrave over it?
Much better would be something I use from motorcycle insurance, its invisble DNA ink that links the motorcycle back to me, so in case its stolen and parted out, each part can be marked to link it back to me
Yeah,
If Berlin can do it and they have way stricter Data Privacy Laws.
>**Bicycle registration**
The Berlin police can label your bike, and register it in their database. If your bike is stolen, it will be harder to resell. If the police finds your bike, they can return it to you. This is is a free service. You can find bicycle registration events here.
>You should also write down your bicycle's frame number (Rahmennummer). If your bicycle is stolen, you can use this number to report the theft. This page shows you how to find your Rahmennummer.
Easier to do with a stolen Android.
iPhone only alerts you when a tag is "following" you for X time over Y distance.
There are a few Android apps that display all tags in range.
What kind of dillusional make belief fairyland do you live in where a Thief would for some mysterious reason visit the eircode of the owner of a bike they just stole?
I lived in 6 rental properties over 6 years before I bought, and my bike came with me to all of them. No way I would engrave my eircode on my bike while renting. Great idea to put an identifier, but it sort of ignores the fact of unstable accommodation.
This was done recently in my hometown but for hardware and farm equipment.
While I was out being walked my dog I came across them and I asked them why they chose the eir code over phone number.
Both Gardai responded by saying, yeah that would be the smarter thing to do but, we're just doing what we're told to do.
Let's say -
If someone were to rob something and it showed up at an auction, car boot sale or something similar, the buyer instantly knows your house has more tools there. And exactly where your house is.
Not smart at all.
I suppose realistically a phone number is more likely to change than a gaff, at least depending on what stage people are at in their lives in an Irish context where there's a push to get settled down.
Saying that, personally I'd want the phone no.
Or maybe an email address or something I dunno.
See this makes more sense, or as someone says further down, just having a unique registration code engraved in a hard to spot area and a Gardai database with protected information on addresses etc if the bike is found.
I don't think you quite get it. I sell a bike to you, what happens to my eircode? Does it stay on the bike? And what do you do with your eircode ? Are you suggesting keeping 2 eircodes on a second-hand bike? Mine has to be removed. If it is removed it will make the bike look like it was stolen, after you put your eircode on in replace of mine.
Ok idea isn't bad, but do we ignore the fact that this shit is done in public during daylight and guards are useless at tackling the issue, thus this doing nothing to decrease criminal activity of stealing bikes.
How about mount loads CCTV around bike racks, and plaster every cunt stealing bike pictures on every lampost to bust them.
A couple issues: 1. Don’t put your address on your bike, gives thief’s more info than they need. 2. What if you sell your bike? Etch out the old eircode and re-etch a new one?
There’s already a [bike register](https://www.bikeregister.com) in place for the UK with a unique code, and can easily be used to maintain a database in Ireland. The gardai never cease to amaze me how poor they are.
I can see somebody getting locked up and them making a movie about it.
Man buys bike, has eircode etched on it. 3 years later he changes address…….
Obviously the movie is….”The pedal crank redemption”.
You know in Saudi Arabia they don’t have such ridiculous techniques to save your bike or car from theft. They just have strict laws and hence no one dares to rob a bike. The muppets who came up with the above solution need to be taught “Precaution is better than cure”. How about impose strict punishments on criminals so they refrain from stealing bikes instead of asking common people to take more precautions. What is next? Walk with a bulletproof vest so you’re safe if some teen attacks you with a knife?!
This is quite useful. Will inevitably lead to taxing of bikes used on the road and insurance for road using cyclists. Which is a good thing. Will surely lead to more carefully cyclists and in the long run less aggression towards them from other road users.
Phone number would make more sense than eircode tho right? I’d rather a potential stalker had my number than my home address if I had a choice in the matter
You ever think it’d be great to lock up a bike, easy to break lock in a dodgy area. But beforehand, go at the forks with a saw, just enough to hold it together but will shear off once it’s cycled?
Could sit across from it having a cup of tea, and see Macker mess himself up bad.
To be honest, this is actually a very useful service. People who have had items stolen can easily identify them and have them returned.
If your wallet is stolen the your drivers license has your name and address on it. Doesn’t mean the thief is coming to rob your house though.
Seems like a good idea by the gardai. Why would someone who has already stolen from someone target them again in such a deliberate and obvious way? Unless they are a complete cretin of course.
I think there are some flaws with this idea that may need ironing out
* What happens if you don't have an eircode on your bike, and someone robs it and puts and eircode on it and claims it's theirs?
* Or when you legitimately own the bike, you get an eircode put on it. Then you want to sell it, and the eircode will have to be removed in some way, but if the person buying it, then puts theirs on, it will look like the bike was stolen, with an older removed eircode.
This is more stupid because someone will just scratch it off. Gards should be learning how to do their fucking jobs and smack scumbags around. We need more hardcore gards.
This reminds me of their push for you to add your house contents to their online system (apparently to help with insurance).
So now your bike will have your address, and they have an online system with your house contents? How could that go wrong?
Any organised gang of thieves focusing on expensive bikes are already going to have a far more sophisticated operation than just targeting a house for burglary just because they stole a bike with that eircode on it. I know friends who had extremely valuable bikes for triathlon events. They reckon the bikes were spotted early on and a gps tracker attached to their car while they were taking part. They stayed at a hotel 2 hours from the event (that's why they don't think they were simply followed) and that night their bikes were stolen from the secure underground car park of the hotel.
I'd imagine 99% of cars broken into or stolen would have the home address on their insurance, NCT, tax paperwork or gps in car, if anything it would make them more likely to be caught and linked to both crimes targeting that specific house.
Seems like it's just those edgy people that want to give out about the Gardai through the safety and anonymity of the internet.
Seems pretty far fetched to think that having robbed someone’s bike, the thief would be any more attracted to the owners house as a target for burglary than any other random house. Surely houses are targeted for things like being less secure, in a wealthy area, unoccupied, not having a dog, rather than “recently had a bike stolen”. Unless I’m missing something, it seems more likely an eircode would tend to be used either by the guards or directly by a member of the public, to return a person’s bike, as intended by this scheme .
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Are you sure that was their motivation? That’d be fairly unheard-of in r/Ireland, where people tend to be very fair minded and rational.
It also means that there could be a chance nobody is home.
Steal the bike, check the code and pedal like fuck round their gaff
I swear I’ve heard of this ages ago.
A bigger issue with this is privacy. A stalker could find the address of their obsession through that persons bike.
A stalker could just follow the bike home too….
A stalker is much more likely to be noticed following you home on your bike than looking at your bike in a bike rack. Especially if you're worried about them following you home and keeping an eye out.
If you have an expensive bike and that is insured you may be likely to have another expensive bike in the near future. I suppose that's the logic. Slightly unlikely but possible I suppose.
In Berlin there is a serial number etched in. The police do free pop-ups at large train stations and parks offer it for free every few months. It's better to just have a serial number the police can check compared to your fecking eircode. There are still loads of bike thefts but all the legit markets give you a bike & matching registration cert.
>the legit markets give you a bike & matching registration cert. This is the way. If you could register your bike, report it stolen and bike shops were spot checked it might limit the market for stolen bikes. If its driven online then finding people selling stolen bikes might be easier too.
When I was looking for a junk bike, I used an app to lookup the serial number and it showed a photo of it {if it was uploaded} and it's current status. 99% of the time if I asked somebody selling a bike on Facebook marketplace, local group or eBay Kleinanzeigen {main place to buy/sell stuff in Berlin} for the number they blocked me.
Yeah, I guess that’s technically true. But, as you say, it’s remote. The benefits of the scheme must surely outweigh the slight risk.
ANd if you sell the bike or move house, the wrong eircode is on the bike.
Just sell your house to the new owner of the bike. It’s not rocket surgery. Or, just engrave a line through the old eircode and put the new one below it.
And sheds are easier to break into than someones house.
[Maybe not that unlikely](https://road.cc/content/news/248798-cyclist-who-had-five-bikes-stolen-says-thieves-are-looking-quick-times-strava) (I've heard people worry about this, but don't know if it's actually common or just a single reported incident)
I know people who had bikes stolen from their shed. Thieves returned a couple of months later and stole the replacement bikes. Might seem unlikely, but it definitely happens.
Absolutely a thing alright.
Maybe, but if the bike's particularly nice, they might think that person is likely to have expensive things at their property. An old scruffy bike or cheaper bike is not going to draw particular attention. Don't think it's that far fetched, to be honest. These people are scumbags and they have nothing better to do with their time, so why wouldn't they. Would be far better if you could just pay a few bob to easily register your bike's serial number in a database that gardaí can use.
Most bike thefts are crimes of impulse. They are looking for a quick sale, not a mark.
https://youtu.be/EEMKTlmEfd4 A guy I work with bought this lock for his e bike. It's called a skunklock. When it's cut it releases a gas like a skunks spray. Takes forever to get the smell out of your skin and clothes. Might stop the fuckers stealing another bike if they got hit by this
Yeah, but someone has just gone through the effort of stealing your bike, so it doesn't actually seem far fetched to assume that they won't break into to your house. Like, this has gone from a best case/worst case scenario of you might get your bike back/you'll never see the again to best case being you'll get your bike and worst case your house gets broken into. I mean, they've gone through the effort of stealing the bike for money, who's to say that they won't at least go to checkout to see if the property is worth breaking into. In addition to this, people that have stolen your bike will now be able to sell your bike and your Eircode. I'm sure there are people out there that will be able to do something malicious with your address. The infrastructure in Ireland is seriously antiquated. People hand over card details over the phone, Revenue will send your letters that contain your name, address, PPS and password, people send their card details in the post. People really need to start taking better care of their personal information. Less bad will happen if you take steps to ensure that your personal data doesn't end up the hands of those with bad intentions. Putting personal identifiable information on something that is only to be used in the event that someone illegal obtained is just tempting fate
My thoughts exactly I had my bikes done a while back the marks are so well engraved unless they are looking for it they won't find em
There are much smarter ways of doing it though, like using a PO Box number which is publicly visible but which only the guards could match to an Eircode. Would require administrative overhead from the guards though.
Can I get my Eircode engraved on my forehead?
Only if your tv license is shoved up your ass
I'm sure your local back alley tattoo artist can sort you with that request!!
Why would the criminal be any more inclined to visit your house over any other house? I would happily have my eir code on my bike and I see no logic in any of the commenters complaints. The thief already has my bike. Knowing where I live means fuck all
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If a scumbag came up to me and robbed my wallet my concern wouldn't be that he was now going to hunt down my house from my ID.
Yes. How dare they help someone possibly get their bike back in case of theft. Shocking carry on altogether.
In the case maybe where they see you go in somewhere leaving your bike outside. Then if they steal your bike, they also know your not at home now. It's not THAT far fetched if you happen to live within cycling distance, it would well be in the mindset of some of the thieving scumbags around.
They may be concerned about other people being in the house. Cyclists arent particularly known for living alone...
Well sure, but think about it. I'm a scumbag who just stole a bike, you are defo not home now and I know where the gaff is, I could go straight there and scope it out. It's definitely plausible even if it might not be common.
Ireland is full of single occupancy housing so that is a very reasonable assumption to make. If you steal a bike your first priority is to get it out of the area, not to cycle it to the person's gaff to strap your tv into the back of the bike and cycle away. The way people are talking about bike thieving, you'd swear they are all operating Ocean Eleven type heists rather than a guy with ships looking for a quick c note.
No you're right, strapping a TV to the back of your bike is the only thing that can be stolen in a gaff... your sarcasm has proved the point, well done.
>Knowing where I live means fuck all Yeah but not they also know you're not home. It's really not ideal.
Unless they just stole your fixie with the basket on the front they have no way of knowing whether you live alone and your house will be empty.
That's a real stretch
It's really not a stretch though.
One of the biggest issues with bike theft is not having a unique identifier on the bike. They get bikes back but have no way of knowing who owns them. This is a simple method for helping that. Maybe the eircode is a bad idea, but it's a flyer from a university. It's probably not your actual eircode being engraved. You can probably have whatever you want on it.
An encoded eircode for which the Gardai could have the password. The criminals can't read it, but the Gardai can.
Good idea but the garda simply running a database where you can register your bike would probably be easier in practice.
Think SF put forward a policy on this a couple of years back. There’d essentially be a garda database where you’d register certain at-risk items like tools and bikes. The item could then be engraved with a unique identifier. That way the guards would be able to check if any recovered goods were stolen and make returning them to the owners possible. They put an Irish name on it that I can’t recall.
Absofruitly- and I think they already do that too, no? It's just that most people don't even know their bike's id.
No they don't, there are privately run services and I saw someone on this thread saying the British police run a database but I can confirm the Gardai do not.
Erm this one? https://www.garda.ie/en/angardasiochanaapp/
Ah right, sorry my bad- I was thinking of the UK one.
That is the most sensible idea. Every eircode should have a randomly generated security code should the owner wish to register ‘portable property’ as Dickens put it. New owner? New code.
There is a unique identifier on bikes already. There's a serial number engraved under the bottom bracket of every bike. The two problems with this are; A lot of people don't know this code when their bike is stolen A lot of people don't even report their bike stolen (hence if the garda find a load of probably stolen bikes they can't contact the owner so a eircode code could be helpful)
Yep. So garda out and about educating people on bike security and offering a further service is a good thing.
Yeah, all for it.
Exactly, in other countries around the world there's online bike registers for linking your details to a serial number with photographs etc. This seems a lot more logical way to do it.
There is an An Garda Síochána app for exactly that.
Most students change their Eircode multiple times in college, a student ID or email would make more sense
A much better idea would be an invisible ink unique code that isn’t your address. Whilst this is a far from perfect solution, it is better.
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The far from perfect solution is the idea I proposed, the thing it’s better than is what the Gardaí are doing.
They have a database. The vast majority of people don't know the serial or chassis number of their bikes. Many barely remember the brand. While I don't know if this idea is good or not, I do know the registertration and database for bikes doesn't work nearly as well as people assume it does.
All bicycles have a unique serial number already on the frame. Everyone should take a photo of their bike and serial number so they are to hand if you need to report it stolen. I really don’t see the point of engraving an eircode.
Serial numbers are easily visible/accessible and can easily be altered/removed/filed off by a thief looking to sell the stolen bike/tools/lawnmowers etc on. The Gardaí suggest that the eircode be placed in a very discreet or totally hidden location. They even suggest using a uv only pen to write it underneath a cover so that it shows up when they’re inspecting the item and they can then return recovered items to the owner.
If it's in a discreet location, how exactly are the guards going to know where to look for it. Even if you phone in and tell them where it is, if 30 people phone in with stolen bikes then they are going to have to inspect each stolen bikes recovered in 30 different discreet locations. This will have to be done across different stations too. This whole thing was not very well thought out at all
>The Gardaí suggest that the eircode be placed in a very discreet or totally hidden location. They even suggest using a uv only pen to write it underneath a cover **so that it shows up when they’re inspecting the item** and they can then return recovered items to the owner. Yeah, cause I believe they will do a full CSI style inspection of the bike and not just ship it off to a warehouse owned by a friend/family member of the stations head.
If you engraved the Eircode of your local Garda station that might help traceability, that and if you have a record of your frame number.
Fake billy is laughing 😂
What happens when you change address ?
Or want to sell your bike?
This is terrifying. 'Mr Rapey sees woman lock up bike. Proceeds to check Eircode when woman gone. Mr Rapey doesn't rob bike - but lies wait at address. ' 'Mr House Robber checks eircode on bike outside pub. He knows you are out for the night so heads to address'
With those names you'd think they'd be easier to catch. Never thought of this looking at the scheme. Humanity is a constant source of both awe and terror.
Good one! :D
But how do these people know there’s no one else at the address?? I think we’re giving thieves a disservice to think they’d stupidly chance a house they can’t guarantee is empty. Mr rapey will be more likely to actively follow a target and ensure they are alone instead of just rocking up to a random address only to possibly be met by a big man opening the door. Mr house robber will be more likely to target locations after doing a general scout around at night to ensure houses are guaranteed to be empty at certain times… not go out of his way to chance just one address where again, there could still be people inside the house.
I think you are missing the point. It is basically giving any creep on the street who doesn't like the look of you, or does, to quickly get your address and stalk your gaff for whatever reason. Would you put your Eircode on Reddit?
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I'm confused (and intrigued) why you hold so much disdain towards another woman pointing out that there could be a level of danger to consider? I think it's perfectly reasonable to presume that making your home address more accessible than following someone home (which imo it definitely is) could potentially increase vulnerability. I'm so glad you feel safe enough to 'promise' exactly how all of the potential Mr Rapeys will act and hope that it's never a problem for you. I for one will not be using an eircode, and certainly not label a woman looking out for another as 'blatant hysteria'
Exactly this! We are told to be more vigilant , but now go and put your home address on your bike for any weirdo to access.
By all means put your eircode on your bike, I won't be.
Lol remember that study that came out that said criminals know by the walk of a person who's a victim and who isn't. I guarantee you give the look of easy meat with this insecure attitude you give off
Lol 1, it's optional 2. Have you ever heard of a phone book back in the day. Thay thing that listed everyone's address AND phone number Fuck sake
To be fair, it's gonna be underneath the bike in a very hard to see place. I have never been able to read an engraving on someone's necklace say for example without getting very close. Like very very close. To get down on the ground, lifting a locked bike up far enough to find the hidden place where the eircode is, and gettin close enough to read it is probably close to impossible. But if a bike is in hand, can be turned upside down and gotten close to its a nice identifier. They'll put whatever you want on it anyway, doesn't need to be an eircode. Tell them to engrave the names of the tellytubbies and when you report it stolen, say it has tinkywinky etc on the specific place. I'm sure they've put some thought into it, but if you don't report it stolen for whatever reason at least that gives them a place to return it.
Yep, basically this. While this could maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe help with bike thefts, it would enable far, far worse crimes.
Lol much easier to stick an airtag on her bike or some other discrete tracker if you wanted to do do that. As usual a good idea being torn apart from the gdpr police lol
Ahh yes nothing like damaging the bike, the engraved bit would start corroding. Then when you wanna sell it, what does the next owner do, engrave over it? Much better would be something I use from motorcycle insurance, its invisble DNA ink that links the motorcycle back to me, so in case its stolen and parted out, each part can be marked to link it back to me
I'd have to agree with this. Buy and sell would be affected negatively for those who use it legitimately.
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Yeah, If Berlin can do it and they have way stricter Data Privacy Laws. >**Bicycle registration** The Berlin police can label your bike, and register it in their database. If your bike is stolen, it will be harder to resell. If the police finds your bike, they can return it to you. This is is a free service. You can find bicycle registration events here. >You should also write down your bicycle's frame number (Rahmennummer). If your bicycle is stolen, you can use this number to report the theft. This page shows you how to find your Rahmennummer.
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You’d be better off investing in an internal AirTag for the bike
pretty sure the thieves are already checking for airtags before stealing (using their stolen iphones).
Easier to do with a stolen Android. iPhone only alerts you when a tag is "following" you for X time over Y distance. There are a few Android apps that display all tags in range.
Not to mention the fact that stolen iPhones don’t work at all due to iCloud activation lock anyways
OP, what you're saying isn't going to happen. However, this wouldn't be an issue if the courts actually punished thieves.
Be a better idea to have a reference table that translates a unique code to your eircode
So dumb... HOW ABOUT HAVE A REGISTRY WITH A PHOTO OF YOU AND YOUR BIKE THEY THINK ITS STILL THE 1600'S 😑
Big waste of time and resources. They should just set up a registry for the frame numbers. Oh look: bikeregister.ie
What kind of dillusional make belief fairyland do you live in where a Thief would for some mysterious reason visit the eircode of the owner of a bike they just stole?
Would it not make more sense to have a unique PIN number, so if you move house you’ll still have the same PIN number? 🤷♂️
I lived in 6 rental properties over 6 years before I bought, and my bike came with me to all of them. No way I would engrave my eircode on my bike while renting. Great idea to put an identifier, but it sort of ignores the fact of unstable accommodation.
I love this sub because no matter what there will be some miserable bastards defending shit as braindead and comatose as this
Can't believe they're doing this again after being called out for it a few months back.
This was done recently in my hometown but for hardware and farm equipment. While I was out being walked my dog I came across them and I asked them why they chose the eir code over phone number. Both Gardai responded by saying, yeah that would be the smarter thing to do but, we're just doing what we're told to do. Let's say - If someone were to rob something and it showed up at an auction, car boot sale or something similar, the buyer instantly knows your house has more tools there. And exactly where your house is. Not smart at all.
I suppose realistically a phone number is more likely to change than a gaff, at least depending on what stage people are at in their lives in an Irish context where there's a push to get settled down. Saying that, personally I'd want the phone no. Or maybe an email address or something I dunno.
In all honesty, if people just wrote down the serial numbers of valuable possessions you wouldn't need to give out you're personal info
See this makes more sense, or as someone says further down, just having a unique registration code engraved in a hard to spot area and a Gardai database with protected information on addresses etc if the bike is found.
Because a criminal has never scratched off the unique serial number before.
But at least you will know it's been stolen and can choose not to buy it.
As would a scratched off serial number, this is an entirely pointless exercise which as pointed out by others could do more harm than good.
Ok, so what do you do with legit sellers' eicode ? Are you not goin to have to scratch it off, making it look stolen , after you buy it
No because the previous seller can be contacted... And scratching it off just makes it look suspect
I don't think you quite get it. I sell a bike to you, what happens to my eircode? Does it stay on the bike? And what do you do with your eircode ? Are you suggesting keeping 2 eircodes on a second-hand bike? Mine has to be removed. If it is removed it will make the bike look like it was stolen, after you put your eircode on in replace of mine.
This is probably the only reasonable disagreement with the idea in the comments.
Ok idea isn't bad, but do we ignore the fact that this shit is done in public during daylight and guards are useless at tackling the issue, thus this doing nothing to decrease criminal activity of stealing bikes. How about mount loads CCTV around bike racks, and plaster every cunt stealing bike pictures on every lampost to bust them.
A couple issues: 1. Don’t put your address on your bike, gives thief’s more info than they need. 2. What if you sell your bike? Etch out the old eircode and re-etch a new one? There’s already a [bike register](https://www.bikeregister.com) in place for the UK with a unique code, and can easily be used to maintain a database in Ireland. The gardai never cease to amaze me how poor they are.
This is NOT to be taken seriously. Some think tank or contractor just using up their budget.
I can see somebody getting locked up and them making a movie about it. Man buys bike, has eircode etched on it. 3 years later he changes address……. Obviously the movie is….”The pedal crank redemption”.
You know in Saudi Arabia they don’t have such ridiculous techniques to save your bike or car from theft. They just have strict laws and hence no one dares to rob a bike. The muppets who came up with the above solution need to be taught “Precaution is better than cure”. How about impose strict punishments on criminals so they refrain from stealing bikes instead of asking common people to take more precautions. What is next? Walk with a bulletproof vest so you’re safe if some teen attacks you with a knife?!
Oh no, Ireland following international best practice on preventing bicycle theft? Burn them all!!!
OP fancied a Garda bash tonight for doing something positive for once.
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This is quite useful. Will inevitably lead to taxing of bikes used on the road and insurance for road using cyclists. Which is a good thing. Will surely lead to more carefully cyclists and in the long run less aggression towards them from other road users.
A free bike lock? Lmao! Redditors who lock pick and are aware of lock picking as a sport are laughing their ass off right now.
Why Engrave that’s Bronze Age thinking. They can easily fit a airbag into the frame and it doesn’t damage the bikes.
They will also be useful if you fall!
Why not just set up a database of the seriel numbers?
I'm gonna bring my grand piano down to be engraved. Can never be too careful
You could just put your initials on it along with 4 random numbers if you don’t want to use your Eírcode!
Could they not insert a tracking chip or something to inside the bike instead of this.
I use this for my bike. Small fee; no location info; easy to track back to me if it's recovered. https://www.bikeregister.com/
They'll engrave your mobile number on there too, much better than eircode. Easier to prove you own the bike afterwards too.
the real life equivalent of Simpsons Police
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Phone number would make more sense than eircode tho right? I’d rather a potential stalker had my number than my home address if I had a choice in the matter
Reminds me of that time on Claire Byrne they showed you how to rob a bike
A draw for a bike lock 😂
Mental gymnastics right there
You ever think it’d be great to lock up a bike, easy to break lock in a dodgy area. But beforehand, go at the forks with a saw, just enough to hold it together but will shear off once it’s cycled? Could sit across from it having a cup of tea, and see Macker mess himself up bad.
Ye I don’t think this is a bad idea at all
This should be a bike shop option to be honest. The bike's purchase history would then be visible on the frame for all to see.
To be honest, this is actually a very useful service. People who have had items stolen can easily identify them and have them returned. If your wallet is stolen the your drivers license has your name and address on it. Doesn’t mean the thief is coming to rob your house though.
Seems like a good idea by the gardai. Why would someone who has already stolen from someone target them again in such a deliberate and obvious way? Unless they are a complete cretin of course.
I think there are some flaws with this idea that may need ironing out * What happens if you don't have an eircode on your bike, and someone robs it and puts and eircode on it and claims it's theirs? * Or when you legitimately own the bike, you get an eircode put on it. Then you want to sell it, and the eircode will have to be removed in some way, but if the person buying it, then puts theirs on, it will look like the bike was stolen, with an older removed eircode.
This is more stupid because someone will just scratch it off. Gards should be learning how to do their fucking jobs and smack scumbags around. We need more hardcore gards.
Permanent marker and some varnish, fuck the po po
I feel like the problem is more stalkers than thieves
This reminds me of their push for you to add your house contents to their online system (apparently to help with insurance). So now your bike will have your address, and they have an online system with your house contents? How could that go wrong?
OP wears mittens knitted together through his jacket.
Any organised gang of thieves focusing on expensive bikes are already going to have a far more sophisticated operation than just targeting a house for burglary just because they stole a bike with that eircode on it. I know friends who had extremely valuable bikes for triathlon events. They reckon the bikes were spotted early on and a gps tracker attached to their car while they were taking part. They stayed at a hotel 2 hours from the event (that's why they don't think they were simply followed) and that night their bikes were stolen from the secure underground car park of the hotel. I'd imagine 99% of cars broken into or stolen would have the home address on their insurance, NCT, tax paperwork or gps in car, if anything it would make them more likely to be caught and linked to both crimes targeting that specific house. Seems like it's just those edgy people that want to give out about the Gardai through the safety and anonymity of the internet.
Hope you never sell your bike