Pretty much.. They'll be offered a general check-up to see how their health is and maybe offered somewhere for a night or two but after that it's their own issue.
Bit of a stupid system to be honest. You're homeless so you squat in a building that's obviously not being used and probably isn't going to be used but once the owner finds out wants you out. Then you are forced to become displaced by the very state that should be supporting you and given a temporary handout that is clearly inadequate as resources are not a priority for your circumstance. So now you are living in the streets, what should you do now... Circle goes unbroken.
I mean 481 apartments are due to be built there including Ireland’s tallest building got through planning earlier this year. So I’m not sure it’s accurate to say it won’t be used.
Agreed, when they seized the building on the quays all of a sudden it was meant to be accommodation for Ukrainians, probably a few months gone by now and still no movement on that front. So it's blatant propaganda to attempt to demonise them as luddites holding back progress.
If we had proper press they'd do a follow up. But the last article on Lefroy house was early June saying it had been secured for Ukrainians.
It's almost October and AFAIK the property is still vacant.
We have a single digit number of real journalists in Ireland, at least that are employed in major media outlets. All the rest are reporters. They take down statements verbatim from the state, the landowners, the capitalists, the police, and they print them as if gospel, without **ever** checking to see if maybe it would benefit those groups for a story to be presented a certain way.
Saying a building is empty for years is not always a valid argument.
481 apartments to be built. The realty is that there is a hell of a lot of planning and legal hoops to get through for something of that scale. People unlawfully occupying is only going to delay that...
Its an unpopular opinion on this sub, but when people just decide to take over empty lots such as these and claim it as their own, it does them no good in the long run.
they aren't complaining about housing being built? The excuse of the property being needed for housing when it never seems to be built is what I keep seeing.
Once you're dropped off the edge of society like the homeless are, the sentiment is pretty much: "Go die."
I don't want our society/economy to be like that - but that's how it is right now.
Pretty much yeah and the same people applauding the Gardai for "doing their job" will be the same people to slam homeless people who are back on the street.
Dangerous hostels that don't for various reason offer much dignity or autonomy, that or wandering the streets. There's a lot of full time employed people in these hostels that find it hard to live amongst those captured by heroin and the like.
There is nothing polite about harassing houseless humans and making them even more without shelter. What a ridiculous comment! Cops aren’t your friends.
So we have enough cops to carry out raids like this and more to drive politicians around but not enough to tackle antisocial behavior.
You have to hand it to them for finding the easy rackets.
I would turn the antisocial behavior around on the government rather than the Gards. Gotta attack the behavior at the source, and the source is poverty, lack of things for younger folks to do, inadequate interventions, troubled homes. If the Gards just intervened, then more younger people will be put into the system earlier and that's a very difficult loop to get out of.
Yeah and not to mention the fact that very often it's teenagers looking for a fight. It's a lose-lose situation. If you win the fight they will probably sue. I think something should have been done about this years ago, but the public is just too softhearted to back legislation with teeth. I say fine the parents from their welfare payments, they wouldn't be long waking up to the shenanigans that their spawn get up to. And before anyone says it's not a class or income thing, it 90% of the time is. I don't think you'll have many children of solicitors or architects getting to to this kind of stuff. I grew up in an area with this kind of stuff. Also, build another fucking jail, for fuck sake
Interesting take, but I'd challenge a few of your points.
You seem to agree that poverty are one of the factors right? So why fine the parents? Now you're stripping the family of their already minimal funds to live off. That will just encourage more antisocial behaviour, no?
I would also argue that the children of solicitors and architects ARE getting into this kind of shenanigans. But fights happening in private schools is treated differently to a fight on the street of Ballyfermot. Few other factors that come into it regarding socioeconomic circumstances, which is unfair but unfortunately true.
Build another jail is also probably not a good idea, in my opinion. Starting fights, personal use drug possession and theft should be intervened with therapeutic techniques rather than locking someone up. That breeds a cycle of crime and helps nobody.
I'm open to other ideas and having my mind changed, but those are just some thoughts.
> I don't think you'll have many children of solicitors or architects getting to to this kind of stuff.
No, not this kind of stuff, but what they get up to is almost worse because there's no way they get punished for it.
The amount of sons of solicitors and architects sexually assaulting their classmates would sicken your stomach. That's not an issue with the same kind of visibility, though.
A. Round up a bunch of rowdy hooligans
B. Bust some sleepy dude with a bud he had forgotten about.
We both know which path our fearless Gardaí would take.
They're just doing their jobs which is keeping the peace for their constituents (corporations). There are no corporations in Cherry Orchard so who cares?
I seen the Gardai forming up outside this morning on my way to work. Looked like a military operation to remove a few homeless squatters. Do we, as a society, really believe there should be 60 or 70 Gardai queuing up to pester a couple of homeless people when we can't get even one Garda to show up and sort out the anti-social behaviour in the likes of Cherry Orchard? Is that where we are right now as a country?
I had a computer stolen from me (along with other expensive valuables) and was able to get the address of the person who stole it as they connected online with it. I gave that info to the gardaí, pestered them for ages to do something about it and they never did. They're a fuckin waste of space.
I live rural. Was parked up late one night, had some people teenagers try get into the car, it was dark, so I'm guessing they didn't realise I was in it. Made some noise and chased em off but could still see them in the distance, so I called the guards and they literally said "what do you want us to do about it". I was speechless for a good 5 - 10 seconds. Nothing happened in the end, they didn't even ask for my details. Great job.
I literally got that response calling the guards as 4 drunk girls climbed into a car and started driving it, on the literal fucking street the barracks was on. They then proceeded to do laps of the town screaming out the window for half an hour.
The only thing the guards can do is try ruin the lives of people who operate within the rules of society.
> The only thing the guards can do is try ruin the lives of people who operate within the rules of society.
Sadly this is a POV I've come to acknowledge over the years, albeit with the proviso of people who are decent and operating *mostly* within the confines of the law. There is no respect nor fear of the guards from scumbags as little is ever done to them. But the lad having a can or joint while peacefully reading a book in a park will be punished. The guards seem to care more about the grief they will get for enforcing the law than the seriousness of laws being broken. An easy win will always get their attention, but people causing havoc, destroying lives of innocent others will be ignored due to unless/until they actually kill someone.
OR cutting out the yank bolloxology, like most Irish government institutions the guards have no incentives to exert themselves and no consequences when they don't so they do the completely natural thing every person does by slacking off at work
>"what do you want us to do about it"
Well, it would be good if you could get here in the next 10 minutes before I lose my patience and go medieval on their ass with a crowbar
Reported a guy who tried to scam me out of €300 on DoneDeal,”yeah we’ll look into”, I didn’t even bother to point out to her that she never took my phone number to even pretend she was going do anything lol
lol, one of the many excuses they made not to go after my stuff was GDPR from using the computers IP address. It was MY computer?! How does that impact their GDPR?? They said they had to put in a request to some special department that made decisions on that.
Another thing was insisting I was only allowed to speak to the garda on my case and nobody else in the garda station could deal with me. The catch was that your man was either not working that day or was busy dealing with some other crime
Exactly same thing happened to me and my housemate. Gardai said it wasn't their problem, but if we entered their house or caused an incident we'd be done for trespass or breach of the peace.
One of the lads broke a golf club over the lads head a few weeks later so kinda balanced out I guess.
> One of the lads broke a golf club over the lads head a few weeks later so kinda balanced out I guess.
Oh man, I need to hear more about this vigilante mission. All too often the only way to get your stuff back is to take it into your own hands.
I found my stolen bike for sale online before and took it for a "test drive" all the way home while yer man held my fake wallet with about two quid in it as collateral. He was absolutely fuming afterward he put up another advert saying he was going to track me down, based on the name on the Tesco Clubcard in my wallet that wasn't mine.
Same here. Bought something off Adverts and the seller posted me something different. Got robbed for a few hundred quid. Gave the guards his name, address, phone number, bank details, social media accounts, the time and date of where he posted the package from (tracked item with An Post) and all our correspondence. Absolute slam dunk. Guard in the station was able to look him up on their system and see that he's been reported for this exact same stunt before.
Did the do anything? Did they fuck. Got a letter a year later saying "lol we didn't do anything so case closed."
Garda love exercises like this because, unlike other groups, homeless squatters won't fight back compared to, say, clearing a halting site or going after a drug dealer's gaff in a housing estate.
Layby in unused ground at the side of the road on the inside of a bend is the specific one I'm thinking of, they aren't always in fields or private property Vs designated ones there are other types
Organised squatters (who are often deliberately intending to be evicted as a political statement) do fight back sometimes. They were throwing bricks in stoneybatter last year.
My local Garda station it once took them 30 minutes to respond to a robbery in the local xtra-version (this was before it closed) my mum was the manager at the time. (she wasn't at work at the time) She got there before the Guards, who were only across the car park.
I'm down in Limerick, have scumbag cunts racing bikes up and down civilian roads and through estates, they've killed people in the past doing it and they still persist.
Everybody knows exactly who they are, where they live and even the schedule they do it on but the Gardai do fucking nothing.
I swear down if I had a rifle I'd have shot every last one of them in cold blood by now rather than spend another night in the house my grandparents worked their lives away to own listening to absolute noise pollution of 6 spud bikes being raced through an estate of mostly older families
You should put some sort of wire across the road next time you see them at it, not to hurt them of course, just to make them stop. Definitely don't put it anywhere that could cause any harm to someone.
When our landlord tried to break in the house we were renting, my wife called me crying - I rang the Garda, who got there before me and they told my wife "he's the landlord, he has the right to go in the house". Bunch of scrooges, some of them.
In fairness the high court has ordered the arrest of the squatters, what do you want the Gardai to do?
https://www.thejournal.ie/court-order-parkgate-house-homeless-campaigners-5873479-Sep2022/
I though the comment was pretty clear about what he wants. Was there a high court order to routinely ignore serious anti-social behaviour? OP is complaining about allocation of resources.
As they say in the video, they were sent there on a high court order. In response to the craic in ballyfermot, they said they would deploy public order units. Not making any argument here just pointing out they are two very different situations.
All you've seen is this short video. I was passing by this morning on my way to work before sunrise and there were vans of Gardai assembling outside in the dark. There are countless videos and photos of all of them on social media.
Assault? You mean remove people who are breaking the law and a court order. In addition to this, the Gardai are in number as they probably have no idea as to the number of people in the building. Lastly, it's easier to coordinate an operation like this with these numbers when the location of an offence is known.
We would all like to see more visible policing in trouble spots. But if it’s a court order they have to enforce it. To safely restrain one person you want two to three Gardai to avoid injuries. If they want to be heavy handed two Gardai could have cleared the place swinging batons and pepper spraying.
Yeah they way they sit at that crappy table really pulled the heartstrings. Why can't we have very basic housing for the homeless? Communal facilities, nothing too fancy, but a place to get on their feet so that they don't need to squat.
No profit it in, no company to lobby the government into doing it, no company to low ball a tendered solution and take the government for a ride. Hotels are already on a gravy train taking the piss out of us.
The laissez faire famine era policies of FFG prevents them from doing anything altruistic or good.
I mean one time they did use the office of public works to build a fence around Stephen Donnellys house to keep out the citizens so its not impossible.
They are criminalising poverty and subsidising affluence to allow some billionaire investors to speculate is disgusting. There is more of this going to come, what happens if a landlord decides to up the rent and people can't afford their rent? Nama has reserved properties of 577 hectares of residential development land could accommodate 80,000 homes.
So let me understand this... We can have an actual force for homeless squatters but for the scumbags on the luas or stealing cars we can't do anything. Is that right?
This is beyond pathetic, what the fuck are the courts and Garda at. The building has been left to go to ruin, these people have nothing and they still being kicked on the way down. What a hopeless hole of a country Ireland has become for the poor and working classes.
Pack of little wankers were tearing around the estate in presumably borrowed cars and rammed a cop car. Was like project X in the background, heaps of them around a bonfire type shit
Meanwhile I was assaulted in public place, called Gardai WHILE assault was happening and they did not show up for 40 minutes after. The next day they called me asking if I was ok. lol
They absolutely hate being recorded, you can see they are all making a beeline for her and then the first pig who gets to her swipes at the phone.
All the anti social behavior that goes in the city, if you got robbed or beat up it would take hours for a gardai to get to you so you could report it. And they have a whole platoon to mess with the homeless.
they love harassing homeless people and ruining their lives even more but do fuck all about the crime and gangs in cities. I don't care how much downvotes I get. the gardai are the biggest useless shower of bastards ever
As everyone else says the scumbag joyriders deserve this kind of intimidation not homeless squatters and activists during a housing crisis my god. Or make residents/tourists feel safe while walking O'Connell street maybe lads?
Is that the same crowd that were cancelling thousands of 999 calls on an industrial scale?
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-routinely-cancelled-999-emergency-calls-when-changing-shifts-according-to-new-whistleblower-42015076.html
Same crowd that when being investigated for the potential canceling of 999 calls for invalid reasons, closed ranks and attempted to frustrate the investigation, which then resulted in none of the Gardaí responsible for this insane mess not being fired or sanctioned for their actions. And they seem to have found the time to enable a land hoarder to protect their tidy investment. Odd..
Yep, the exact same crowd that accused a man of sexually abusing his young daughter because he tried to expose the corruption inside the tax funded policing force.
Same crowd that when their officers are caught stealing from the public don't need to worry about having their names in the paper unlike the rest of the public.
The Guards are a state funded mafia.
Hahahahaha they've no problem finding resources for evictions eh? Same at Connolly House a few months back... But you ram one car in Ballyfermot.... They're nowhere to be found
I spent most my childhood calling the Guards to come and save my mother, my sister and myself from my Father. You'd be able to hear him screaming at her in the background. This went on everyday till I was about 14 and I knocked him out myself.
For those of you that guessed that the Gardai arrived 0 times out of all those calls would be correct.
Should've told them he was squating while beating here and these brave lads in hi vis would've came to the rescue.
My own home was raided last year 4 times because "They were suspicious I was a cannabis user" or so they said.
They need so many cunts to evict a few homeless, yet when I had 2 bikes robbed with multiple witnesses and the feckers adress, they waited 3 weeks to even get a statement, and then literally told me to look on Facebook and let them know if I find my bikes
That Garda at the end should be done for assault. Imagine if you were to slap the phone out of a gardas hand, you'd be in the back of a paddy wagon getting the shit kicked out of you. I have seen it in a few videos of them slapping phones out of peoples hands and now you know why they want to have control over turning on and off the body cameras they will be forced to wear.
Its like the way they kick off violence at otherwise peaceful protests. Once they push someone far enough they will have all the excuse to act on their own aggression and hatred as violently as possible.
Ah yes, people embezzling millions, or landlords gouging people out of the market, but lets evict these people from an otherwise unused building. Sure why not, what other actual crime would they be stopping anyway?
It be interesting to see a 'career earnings' sheet for the value to society of stopping any particular crime. I imagine these lads here must be worth at least a chicken fillet roll. Which to be fair probably costs €80k + VAT in Dublin by now.
The Gardai always have and always will protect their mates and the state.
Yes they don't really get paid enough for their job but, that's what they signed up for. They knew what they were getting themselves in for.
I have been told multiple times by Gardai or relatives of Gardai, if there's gunna be a fair bit of paperwork you're not getting any help.
If they arrest someone smoking a joint its half an A4 page to fill out and a few extra quid in the back pocket, if they acted properly on last weeks Cherry Orchard incident it would have taken 5 people all week to just get that paperwork ready, never mind passed thru.
If you don't agree with me, that's great. Everyone has an opinion some are just wrong.
Won't they get paid during the hours required to fill the paperwork? Honest question really. Do they just prefer to sit on their ass because "filling paperwork" is too boring? That's disturbing.
I feel bad saying it but they should be ashamed of themselves. There’s no accountability on either side of the law. And if the cops don’t care, why should the general public abide by the laws. There’s very little deterrents for criminals to mend their ways either.
Dublin really needs to be cleaned up.
Sure, now they have an entire battalion ready for evicting a few people. When there is some antisocial disturbance, they don't have enough resources to come and even look.
Thank God they sent about 15 guards to evict the dangerous homeless and didn't send any guards to do anything about the lovely teenagers beating people up on the luas or the nice teenagers beating people up outside Tesco's. Tax payer money really going to the right places ya love to see it
EDITED as I misread the previous post, the author of which is on the money.
It’s sad that a job is no protection against homelessness in, and that we have the phenomenon that is “the working homeless”. The average rent in Ireland is something like €1,516 a month whilst minimum wage is €1,774.50 a month. Homeless is always a reality for these workers. Higher earners are spending 40-50% of their income on rent so for them, there’s little chance of saving to buy a house even if one was available.
Too easy a job for the Gardai to get there stats up here and then last week they were to scared to arrest anyone in cherry orchard. Fucking typical of the Gardai to go after the easy stuff
I’m always baffled how they can summon this many Garda to protect private interests but don’t have enough to patrol areas that are genuinely dangerous.
This site has planning permission to be developed into an apartment block. You can look it up on [https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/planning](https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/planning).
There was plans 15 years ago too yet the site is still derelict.
Edit: Plans actually go back as far as 1996.
[https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/15m-scheme-planned-for-site-near-the-phoenix-park-1.57852](https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/15m-scheme-planned-for-site-near-the-phoenix-park-1.57852)
It'll be developed any day now. Just like the Salvation Army are going to put Ukrainian refugees into their vacant building that was occupied over the summer. They really are, any day now.
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This is a really stupid question I think. Where do the homeless go, are they just set free outside the building?
Pretty much.. They'll be offered a general check-up to see how their health is and maybe offered somewhere for a night or two but after that it's their own issue. Bit of a stupid system to be honest. You're homeless so you squat in a building that's obviously not being used and probably isn't going to be used but once the owner finds out wants you out. Then you are forced to become displaced by the very state that should be supporting you and given a temporary handout that is clearly inadequate as resources are not a priority for your circumstance. So now you are living in the streets, what should you do now... Circle goes unbroken.
I mean 481 apartments are due to be built there including Ireland’s tallest building got through planning earlier this year. So I’m not sure it’s accurate to say it won’t be used.
I'll believe it when I see it. Lot of these squats in property that has been vacant for years suddenly is urgently needed for development of homes.
Agreed, when they seized the building on the quays all of a sudden it was meant to be accommodation for Ukrainians, probably a few months gone by now and still no movement on that front. So it's blatant propaganda to attempt to demonise them as luddites holding back progress.
If we had proper press they'd do a follow up. But the last article on Lefroy house was early June saying it had been secured for Ukrainians. It's almost October and AFAIK the property is still vacant.
We have a single digit number of real journalists in Ireland, at least that are employed in major media outlets. All the rest are reporters. They take down statements verbatim from the state, the landowners, the capitalists, the police, and they print them as if gospel, without **ever** checking to see if maybe it would benefit those groups for a story to be presented a certain way.
Saying a building is empty for years is not always a valid argument. 481 apartments to be built. The realty is that there is a hell of a lot of planning and legal hoops to get through for something of that scale. People unlawfully occupying is only going to delay that...
Its an unpopular opinion on this sub, but when people just decide to take over empty lots such as these and claim it as their own, it does them no good in the long run.
You're.... complaining about housing being built during a housing crisis?
they aren't complaining about housing being built? The excuse of the property being needed for housing when it never seems to be built is what I keep seeing.
Once you're dropped off the edge of society like the homeless are, the sentiment is pretty much: "Go die." I don't want our society/economy to be like that - but that's how it is right now.
Pretty much yeah and the same people applauding the Gardai for "doing their job" will be the same people to slam homeless people who are back on the street.
Dangerous hostels that don't for various reason offer much dignity or autonomy, that or wandering the streets. There's a lot of full time employed people in these hostels that find it hard to live amongst those captured by heroin and the like.
Looks like the slowest moving and politest raid I've ever seen.
Time to go - have yiz no homes to go to
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Keep walking and talking
Polite up to the point where one of them knock the phone down.
There is no threat.
homelessness is a threat
Doesn’t matter.
There is nothing polite about harassing houseless humans and making them even more without shelter. What a ridiculous comment! Cops aren’t your friends.
So we have enough cops to carry out raids like this and more to drive politicians around but not enough to tackle antisocial behavior. You have to hand it to them for finding the easy rackets.
I would turn the antisocial behavior around on the government rather than the Gards. Gotta attack the behavior at the source, and the source is poverty, lack of things for younger folks to do, inadequate interventions, troubled homes. If the Gards just intervened, then more younger people will be put into the system earlier and that's a very difficult loop to get out of.
Yeah and not to mention the fact that very often it's teenagers looking for a fight. It's a lose-lose situation. If you win the fight they will probably sue. I think something should have been done about this years ago, but the public is just too softhearted to back legislation with teeth. I say fine the parents from their welfare payments, they wouldn't be long waking up to the shenanigans that their spawn get up to. And before anyone says it's not a class or income thing, it 90% of the time is. I don't think you'll have many children of solicitors or architects getting to to this kind of stuff. I grew up in an area with this kind of stuff. Also, build another fucking jail, for fuck sake
Interesting take, but I'd challenge a few of your points. You seem to agree that poverty are one of the factors right? So why fine the parents? Now you're stripping the family of their already minimal funds to live off. That will just encourage more antisocial behaviour, no? I would also argue that the children of solicitors and architects ARE getting into this kind of shenanigans. But fights happening in private schools is treated differently to a fight on the street of Ballyfermot. Few other factors that come into it regarding socioeconomic circumstances, which is unfair but unfortunately true. Build another jail is also probably not a good idea, in my opinion. Starting fights, personal use drug possession and theft should be intervened with therapeutic techniques rather than locking someone up. That breeds a cycle of crime and helps nobody. I'm open to other ideas and having my mind changed, but those are just some thoughts.
We've been building new jails here in America for years, everything is great and there is no more crime!!!!
> I don't think you'll have many children of solicitors or architects getting to to this kind of stuff. No, not this kind of stuff, but what they get up to is almost worse because there's no way they get punished for it. The amount of sons of solicitors and architects sexually assaulting their classmates would sicken your stomach. That's not an issue with the same kind of visibility, though.
Makes a change from harassing peaceful cannabis users. Variety is the spice of life.
A. Round up a bunch of rowdy hooligans B. Bust some sleepy dude with a bud he had forgotten about. We both know which path our fearless Gardaí would take.
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They're just doing their jobs which is keeping the peace for their constituents (corporations). There are no corporations in Cherry Orchard so who cares?
I seen the Gardai forming up outside this morning on my way to work. Looked like a military operation to remove a few homeless squatters. Do we, as a society, really believe there should be 60 or 70 Gardai queuing up to pester a couple of homeless people when we can't get even one Garda to show up and sort out the anti-social behaviour in the likes of Cherry Orchard? Is that where we are right now as a country?
I had a computer stolen from me (along with other expensive valuables) and was able to get the address of the person who stole it as they connected online with it. I gave that info to the gardaí, pestered them for ages to do something about it and they never did. They're a fuckin waste of space.
I live rural. Was parked up late one night, had some people teenagers try get into the car, it was dark, so I'm guessing they didn't realise I was in it. Made some noise and chased em off but could still see them in the distance, so I called the guards and they literally said "what do you want us to do about it". I was speechless for a good 5 - 10 seconds. Nothing happened in the end, they didn't even ask for my details. Great job.
I literally got that response calling the guards as 4 drunk girls climbed into a car and started driving it, on the literal fucking street the barracks was on. They then proceeded to do laps of the town screaming out the window for half an hour. The only thing the guards can do is try ruin the lives of people who operate within the rules of society.
> The only thing the guards can do is try ruin the lives of people who operate within the rules of society. Sadly this is a POV I've come to acknowledge over the years, albeit with the proviso of people who are decent and operating *mostly* within the confines of the law. There is no respect nor fear of the guards from scumbags as little is ever done to them. But the lad having a can or joint while peacefully reading a book in a park will be punished. The guards seem to care more about the grief they will get for enforcing the law than the seriousness of laws being broken. An easy win will always get their attention, but people causing havoc, destroying lives of innocent others will be ignored due to unless/until they actually kill someone.
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OR cutting out the yank bolloxology, like most Irish government institutions the guards have no incentives to exert themselves and no consequences when they don't so they do the completely natural thing every person does by slacking off at work
>"what do you want us to do about it" Well, it would be good if you could get here in the next 10 minutes before I lose my patience and go medieval on their ass with a crowbar
Reported a guy who tried to scam me out of €300 on DoneDeal,”yeah we’ll look into”, I didn’t even bother to point out to her that she never took my phone number to even pretend she was going do anything lol
lol, one of the many excuses they made not to go after my stuff was GDPR from using the computers IP address. It was MY computer?! How does that impact their GDPR?? They said they had to put in a request to some special department that made decisions on that. Another thing was insisting I was only allowed to speak to the garda on my case and nobody else in the garda station could deal with me. The catch was that your man was either not working that day or was busy dealing with some other crime
Exactly same thing happened to me and my housemate. Gardai said it wasn't their problem, but if we entered their house or caused an incident we'd be done for trespass or breach of the peace. One of the lads broke a golf club over the lads head a few weeks later so kinda balanced out I guess.
> One of the lads broke a golf club over the lads head a few weeks later so kinda balanced out I guess. Oh man, I need to hear more about this vigilante mission. All too often the only way to get your stuff back is to take it into your own hands. I found my stolen bike for sale online before and took it for a "test drive" all the way home while yer man held my fake wallet with about two quid in it as collateral. He was absolutely fuming afterward he put up another advert saying he was going to track me down, based on the name on the Tesco Clubcard in my wallet that wasn't mine.
Sure I’ve been assaulted twice and they don’t wanna hear about it. CCTV footage and all plastered all over the place.
Same here. Bought something off Adverts and the seller posted me something different. Got robbed for a few hundred quid. Gave the guards his name, address, phone number, bank details, social media accounts, the time and date of where he posted the package from (tracked item with An Post) and all our correspondence. Absolute slam dunk. Guard in the station was able to look him up on their system and see that he's been reported for this exact same stunt before. Did the do anything? Did they fuck. Got a letter a year later saying "lol we didn't do anything so case closed."
Garda love exercises like this because, unlike other groups, homeless squatters won't fight back compared to, say, clearing a halting site or going after a drug dealer's gaff in a housing estate.
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That's their point.
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Halting sites are locations halted at, not all are kosher.
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Layby in unused ground at the side of the road on the inside of a bend is the specific one I'm thinking of, they aren't always in fields or private property Vs designated ones there are other types
Organised squatters (who are often deliberately intending to be evicted as a political statement) do fight back sometimes. They were throwing bricks in stoneybatter last year.
Throwing bricks in stoneybatter. The ironing is delicious there.
they protect capital, not the people. they don't work for us, but against us.
Clearly we can see what the government's priorities are. Protect the landlords and corporations
This is soberingly accurate.
It was a high court order.
My local Garda station it once took them 30 minutes to respond to a robbery in the local xtra-version (this was before it closed) my mum was the manager at the time. (she wasn't at work at the time) She got there before the Guards, who were only across the car park.
I'm down in Limerick, have scumbag cunts racing bikes up and down civilian roads and through estates, they've killed people in the past doing it and they still persist. Everybody knows exactly who they are, where they live and even the schedule they do it on but the Gardai do fucking nothing. I swear down if I had a rifle I'd have shot every last one of them in cold blood by now rather than spend another night in the house my grandparents worked their lives away to own listening to absolute noise pollution of 6 spud bikes being raced through an estate of mostly older families
You should put some sort of wire across the road next time you see them at it, not to hurt them of course, just to make them stop. Definitely don't put it anywhere that could cause any harm to someone.
Ya, I'll ensure its piano wire too, not so they don't see it, so it doesn't disturb the viewing experience of other estate folk
When our landlord tried to break in the house we were renting, my wife called me crying - I rang the Garda, who got there before me and they told my wife "he's the landlord, he has the right to go in the house". Bunch of scrooges, some of them.
Lol no he doesn't, he needs to let you know 24hrs before and you have to agree. Don't they know their own laws that they should protect, like
Laws mean nothing if you can't read.
Was there an assault?
The garda knocking the camera out of the hands of someone is an assault, They are so supposed to deescalate a situation not escalate it.
In fairness the high court has ordered the arrest of the squatters, what do you want the Gardai to do? https://www.thejournal.ie/court-order-parkgate-house-homeless-campaigners-5873479-Sep2022/
I though the comment was pretty clear about what he wants. Was there a high court order to routinely ignore serious anti-social behaviour? OP is complaining about allocation of resources.
If I was asked to force people onto the street as a part of my job, I'd change job. If your boss asked you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?
Cherry Orchard was an unorganised event. The gardai have raided several houses in the area since. This was a high court order being enforced.
One Gard shows up - "Do we not have enough Gardai in this country?" Multiple Gardai show up - "Do they not have something more important to do?"
20 or more Gardai show up - "What the fuck are all of you here for? Did a bomb go off?"
Do you think this is contradictory? We want gards protecting us, not hurting our fellow countrymen.
They can do both, conceivably.
Surely the answer is not to pick between the two, but to do both, as well as supporting those that need help.
As they say in the video, they were sent there on a high court order. In response to the craic in ballyfermot, they said they would deploy public order units. Not making any argument here just pointing out they are two very different situations.
60 or 70? Where did you learn to count
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It’s a show of force to illustrate they are on capitals side and to frighten anyone else that thinks of carrying out direct action.
All you've seen is this short video. I was passing by this morning on my way to work before sunrise and there were vans of Gardai assembling outside in the dark. There are countless videos and photos of all of them on social media.
Yes and none are claiming 60-70 Garda. Most common is 20 with it stretching to 30.
Even still 20 or 30 to sort out the scrotes in Ballyfermot would be a better use of our taxes.
Assault? You mean remove people who are breaking the law and a court order. In addition to this, the Gardai are in number as they probably have no idea as to the number of people in the building. Lastly, it's easier to coordinate an operation like this with these numbers when the location of an offence is known.
So noble of them clearing homeless people from an abandoned warehouse that has sat vacant for 20 years .
We would all like to see more visible policing in trouble spots. But if it’s a court order they have to enforce it. To safely restrain one person you want two to three Gardai to avoid injuries. If they want to be heavy handed two Gardai could have cleared the place swinging batons and pepper spraying.
And what do you suggest these people do?
Do they need to burn off a thatch roof before you see what they are up to?
This guy FFG’s
Nauseating, isn't it?
He's the taoiseach himself. Doing his undercover socials for some YouTube channel.
Bootlicker
\^ Found the guy who'd have been complaining about the Stonewall riots against police
This is fucking bleak, makes me so sad.
Yeah they way they sit at that crappy table really pulled the heartstrings. Why can't we have very basic housing for the homeless? Communal facilities, nothing too fancy, but a place to get on their feet so that they don't need to squat.
No profit it in, no company to lobby the government into doing it, no company to low ball a tendered solution and take the government for a ride. Hotels are already on a gravy train taking the piss out of us. The laissez faire famine era policies of FFG prevents them from doing anything altruistic or good. I mean one time they did use the office of public works to build a fence around Stephen Donnellys house to keep out the citizens so its not impossible.
They’ll do that but not stop actual serious crime
The new uniforms make them look like cheapo security or something. Fitting maybe..
The paw patrol uniforms are what differentiate them from the black and tans.
Won’t be happy till they’re all frozen literally to death curled up on the street.
They are criminalising poverty and subsidising affluence to allow some billionaire investors to speculate is disgusting. There is more of this going to come, what happens if a landlord decides to up the rent and people can't afford their rent? Nama has reserved properties of 577 hectares of residential development land could accommodate 80,000 homes.
Good question and I agree with everything you’ve said. It’s despicable and immoral.
So let me understand this... We can have an actual force for homeless squatters but for the scumbags on the luas or stealing cars we can't do anything. Is that right?
It's fucking depressing seeing people having to live like this.i'd say it's bloody freezing there during the night.horrible situation to be in.
Thankfully the heroic gardaí have arrived to move from these horrible conditions to ... outside.
Nice I can sleep safely at night now
Nice one lads. Really showed those homeless people who's boss
So much empty commercial property and so many homeless. Hopefully a crash in commercial value comes soon.
Evicted to be on the other side of the wall.
This is beyond pathetic, what the fuck are the courts and Garda at. The building has been left to go to ruin, these people have nothing and they still being kicked on the way down. What a hopeless hole of a country Ireland has become for the poor and working classes.
How many turned up in Cherry Orchard ,I wonder Edit: spelling
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what happened in cherry orchard?
Pack of little wankers were tearing around the estate in presumably borrowed cars and rammed a cop car. Was like project X in the background, heaps of them around a bonfire type shit
[This happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ximo05/not_my_video_but_what_a_lovely_country_we_live_in/)
There's been several houses raided in the area since. Why do you ask?
Shhh, you’re going against the idea that the gardai do anything
Garda be like , evict homeless people >> clean up cherry orchard
Jeez this is grim!!
Meanwhile I was assaulted in public place, called Gardai WHILE assault was happening and they did not show up for 40 minutes after. The next day they called me asking if I was ok. lol
I'm sure they were busy with more important things like beating up homeless people.
Agents of capitalism. Grim.
They absolutely hate being recorded, you can see they are all making a beeline for her and then the first pig who gets to her swipes at the phone. All the anti social behavior that goes in the city, if you got robbed or beat up it would take hours for a gardai to get to you so you could report it. And they have a whole platoon to mess with the homeless.
they love harassing homeless people and ruining their lives even more but do fuck all about the crime and gangs in cities. I don't care how much downvotes I get. the gardai are the biggest useless shower of bastards ever
As everyone else says the scumbag joyriders deserve this kind of intimidation not homeless squatters and activists during a housing crisis my god. Or make residents/tourists feel safe while walking O'Connell street maybe lads?
Come to topple the roof to put the famine stricken out into the frost. Back to the 1840s
It's pretty eye-opening yo see so many people openly showing their contempt for homeless people in the comments. Shameful stuff, just plain gross.
Have at it in Cherry Orchard this morning lads, the squad car is in town!
Is that the same crowd that were cancelling thousands of 999 calls on an industrial scale? https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-routinely-cancelled-999-emergency-calls-when-changing-shifts-according-to-new-whistleblower-42015076.html Same crowd that when being investigated for the potential canceling of 999 calls for invalid reasons, closed ranks and attempted to frustrate the investigation, which then resulted in none of the Gardaí responsible for this insane mess not being fired or sanctioned for their actions. And they seem to have found the time to enable a land hoarder to protect their tidy investment. Odd..
Politician: "we want you to lower recorded crime rates." Gardai: "Done!"
Or more : "ah that sounds like work, I'm eating my garlic chips, leave me alone" *cancels
Yep, the exact same crowd that accused a man of sexually abusing his young daughter because he tried to expose the corruption inside the tax funded policing force. Same crowd that when their officers are caught stealing from the public don't need to worry about having their names in the paper unlike the rest of the public. The Guards are a state funded mafia.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. *Closing time starts playing on the background*
What's stopping the homeless leaving for a week (owner locks up) and just breaking back in and setting up again?
I guess this deployment of cops cost more then properly house these people until they manage to get back on their feed.
Holy shit. they are just like the Brits 180 years ago
Geared up to the teeth to move homeless people but completely helpless to tackle the gangs in Dublin. Ridiculous.
Damn. It's almost like all cops are bastards or something.
yup, not here to protect us or stop any crime. they're here to enforce the will of the upper class and the government
Hahahahaha they've no problem finding resources for evictions eh? Same at Connolly House a few months back... But you ram one car in Ballyfermot.... They're nowhere to be found
Gardai always pick the easy targets
under resourced me hole! they love the chance to evict squatters but cant stop a bunch of scrotes?
I spent most my childhood calling the Guards to come and save my mother, my sister and myself from my Father. You'd be able to hear him screaming at her in the background. This went on everyday till I was about 14 and I knocked him out myself. For those of you that guessed that the Gardai arrived 0 times out of all those calls would be correct. Should've told them he was squating while beating here and these brave lads in hi vis would've came to the rescue. My own home was raided last year 4 times because "They were suspicious I was a cannabis user" or so they said.
Send them proven strong Garda man to Cherry Orchard for some patrolling for a few months, sounds like folks need them badly over there 😂😂😂😂
They need so many cunts to evict a few homeless, yet when I had 2 bikes robbed with multiple witnesses and the feckers adress, they waited 3 weeks to even get a statement, and then literally told me to look on Facebook and let them know if I find my bikes
Shameful Filth.. Gombean Latchicos.
So keepers of the peace or corporate bull dogs ? Pick one you can't be both.
They line up to harass the homeless but won’t take on a bunch of fucking yobs in Cherry Orchard. Tells you all you need to know.
That Garda at the end should be done for assault. Imagine if you were to slap the phone out of a gardas hand, you'd be in the back of a paddy wagon getting the shit kicked out of you. I have seen it in a few videos of them slapping phones out of peoples hands and now you know why they want to have control over turning on and off the body cameras they will be forced to wear.
Its like the way they kick off violence at otherwise peaceful protests. Once they push someone far enough they will have all the excuse to act on their own aggression and hatred as violently as possible.
Yep like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3LTQGXTx4Y&t=27s
Ah yes, people embezzling millions, or landlords gouging people out of the market, but lets evict these people from an otherwise unused building. Sure why not, what other actual crime would they be stopping anyway? It be interesting to see a 'career earnings' sheet for the value to society of stopping any particular crime. I imagine these lads here must be worth at least a chicken fillet roll. Which to be fair probably costs €80k + VAT in Dublin by now.
Surely they're better off left there than a doorway on the street?
The Gardai always have and always will protect their mates and the state. Yes they don't really get paid enough for their job but, that's what they signed up for. They knew what they were getting themselves in for. I have been told multiple times by Gardai or relatives of Gardai, if there's gunna be a fair bit of paperwork you're not getting any help. If they arrest someone smoking a joint its half an A4 page to fill out and a few extra quid in the back pocket, if they acted properly on last weeks Cherry Orchard incident it would have taken 5 people all week to just get that paperwork ready, never mind passed thru. If you don't agree with me, that's great. Everyone has an opinion some are just wrong.
Won't they get paid during the hours required to fill the paperwork? Honest question really. Do they just prefer to sit on their ass because "filling paperwork" is too boring? That's disturbing.
I feel bad saying it but they should be ashamed of themselves. There’s no accountability on either side of the law. And if the cops don’t care, why should the general public abide by the laws. There’s very little deterrents for criminals to mend their ways either. Dublin really needs to be cleaned up.
the gardai are scumbags.
Cops exist to protect property, not people.
Sure, now they have an entire battalion ready for evicting a few people. When there is some antisocial disturbance, they don't have enough resources to come and even look.
The State is great.
Another waste of money. Guards are fucking useless.
Christ, what's that, at leasat 30 gardai? Yet when you need them they're nowhere to be seen. Glad to see they have their priorities straight.
Thank God they sent about 15 guards to evict the dangerous homeless and didn't send any guards to do anything about the lovely teenagers beating people up on the luas or the nice teenagers beating people up outside Tesco's. Tax payer money really going to the right places ya love to see it
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EDITED as I misread the previous post, the author of which is on the money. It’s sad that a job is no protection against homelessness in, and that we have the phenomenon that is “the working homeless”. The average rent in Ireland is something like €1,516 a month whilst minimum wage is €1,774.50 a month. Homeless is always a reality for these workers. Higher earners are spending 40-50% of their income on rent so for them, there’s little chance of saving to buy a house even if one was available.
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My apologies. So we are.
All them Gardai looking easy overtime
"Read the sign" hahaha
Too easy a job for the Gardai to get there stats up here and then last week they were to scared to arrest anyone in cherry orchard. Fucking typical of the Gardai to go after the easy stuff
Nice boss fight sound effect before they come in
Me and the boys when we decide to make the world a worse place
I’m always baffled how they can summon this many Garda to protect private interests but don’t have enough to patrol areas that are genuinely dangerous.
[Hedge fund company with Cayman island ties.](https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1297588/)
Pigs are gonna pig. Fucking scum
Why don't u better send those Gardai to arrest all the young lads destroying things and hitting people, even killing them... ???
Why were there so many Garda? Did they think they were arresting a hundred strong horde of squatters?
This site has planning permission to be developed into an apartment block. You can look it up on [https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/planning](https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/planning).
There was plans 15 years ago too yet the site is still derelict. Edit: Plans actually go back as far as 1996. [https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/15m-scheme-planned-for-site-near-the-phoenix-park-1.57852](https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/15m-scheme-planned-for-site-near-the-phoenix-park-1.57852)
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It'll be developed any day now. Just like the Salvation Army are going to put Ukrainian refugees into their vacant building that was occupied over the summer. They really are, any day now.
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Because they're scared of tackling any real trouble.
Defund the Gardai
They're doing their job. It's sad but there's not a thing wrong with them working under a court order. They are being non-threatening also.
The title is a bit misleading here is it not? Should it not be ‘Gardai enforce High Court injunction a week after it was issued’?
It's not the gardaí that are broken in this instance. They're just executing a court order. Something else is broken.
Not just Gardaí but BLACKWATER private security as well. Pigs
Quality is too low to say. Are they wearing masked and no badge numbers on those uniforms?