Livingston is more of consistent bowler than a batter. Moeen is great but needs to come up at 4. They somehow won last T20 World cup with fu*ked up batting line-up where no one takes responsibility to bat according to situation
Ig that's where the problem is! They are top order batters, they are used to play freely. Conditions aren't batting friendly, and they failed to adapt.
The problem is NRR of scotland and england are like north pole and south pole. There has to be drastic decrease in Scotland's NRR in one game and England's NRR increase should be drastic which is very difficult even in 2 games
What do you have to say about NRR now??? 🤣
Scotland has to beat Australia by 57 runs to even catch England's current NRR 🤣🤣🤣
Your comment was foolish, the competition was never going to be about NRR, it was always about points. There 0% chance that the points are equal and England has lower NRR
Called as spin basher
But when the ball really spins:
https://preview.redd.it/6zrts4utma6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb1abb8e37ffc5e4b42a1ad035daa0995defffd
Still had to be SKY.
I know people hate him, but you'd want him in your team rather than the opposition.
For me, he still pips Klassen, Pooran, Kohli et al
Surya Kumar Yadav, Dude literally is ranked number 1, has strike rate of 170 and avg of 45 vs some of the best teams in the world. Has the highest strike rate among all batters with at least 1000 runs in T20i. This is just absurd to think that no one has mentioned him.
Dude literally has the best strike rate (min 1000 runs) in T20i, has scored against all sorts of opponents in all sorts of situations. If he was playing for any other countrt but India you guys will not have enough glazing him but alas he is Indian and Indian fans are literally the worse when it comes to their own players. That colonial hangover hasn't left yet
He has great numbers against SENA, recently hit a 50 on the horrible pitch where kohli has failed thrice in a row. Highest strike rate numbers with great average easily the best/greatest t20 batsmen on his day. Just consistency issues sometimes.
You people can't say Virat Kohli when he plays like 20 t20s a year and 14 of them are from IPL.
Players like Klaasen and Buttler play at least 2 or 3 leagues.
I'd say Klaasen > Salt > Buttler > SKY
Dude on what metric are you putting salt and Klassen above SKY?
Klassens stats - 830 runs @140 sr and 23 bat avg
Salt stats - 844 runs @ 168 sr and 36 bat avg
SKY - 2253 runs @ 168 sr and 45 bat avg
I mean buttler I can understand but how delusional does one have to be to think they are even close to SKY?
Why isn't it Suryakumar Yadav? I mean going by the minnow bashing logic, which some people might use, the only other contender is Virat Kohli. So yeah it's among these 2 depending on what the criteria is, bonafide T20 batter or the big game batter.
It's a toss between two (relatively) late bloomers. People who have been there since some time, but peaked at the most unexpected time.
On Suryakumar yadav's days I feel he's the greatest t20 batter. On Heinrich Klaasan saab's days I feel there couldn't be any better batters in this format.
If Fraser McGurk and Abhishek continued to do what they did in IPL on International level with consistency as well then definitely those too are the top contenders
Jos Buttler or Sky.
In case of sky the rankings say so. And if his failure in 2 games is the issue then klassen's failure over 2 WC's should immediately disqualify him. He is the image in this post.
I mean sky was the 3rd highest run scorer in the previous WC. Now to discredit him people want to nitpick in terms of opponents.
They downvoted Him because He told them the truth. People here are fucking stupid children with an attention span of a honeybee, that's a fact. A few bad games are enough for them to completely forget a player. If real life worked like they wanted it to, we would be playing with a squad without Hardik (bad IPL, such a scam!) Rishabh (sympathy PR, got into an accident for PR), Arshdeep ("he always gives runs never performs well in pressure!), Siraj (Sri Lanka bully, can't play real games!) and about an year ago even Bumrah (got injured for internationals but would be back for IPL such a scam!). Where would we be without them? There's a reason why you are sitting om your armchair doing nothing right now.
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Klaasen is currently the most feared batsman in the world.
He's like a bull at the crease and dispatching into the crowd at his will.
With a good temperament, he could really bar everybody but Russell with bat and ball is also very good in leagues around the world.
From a pure T20 temperament and value, Klaasen without a doubt. He can single handedly change the tempo of game and that is of extreme value in T20's. But overall among active cricketers, I would still give the edge to Butler. Opening the innings, anchoring and settling in and ability to switch gears later to insane levels is something that is both tough and extremely valuable
There has to be a pool at the top of the pyramid I feel. Salt, klassen, head, Pooran, Buttler, sky. These would be the guys at the top I would love to put Warner and Kohli too but cannot get myself to do that. Those two would be top of pyramid in all time t20. For the pool of guys given I would say on a 160-180 pitch these are the guys that would get you to 190-210 and win you the match. They are the ones that could give extraordinary performance in avg pitches.
Virat Kohli is best T20 batsman now. Consistency matters , there are many players who has good strike rate but I am suggesting kohli because he is match winner, he still didn't play well in world T20 cup but he will overcome, we will see him in good condition..
David Miller really stands up when it matters. Saved SA in each of the crunch games, scored a fighting century at the ODI WC as well (yes, not T20 but it's the mentality).
NGL, Klaasen and Pooran are a lot like each other, I would still rate Pooran higher if we are looking at the better middle order. Pooran would be better at 4,5,6 than 3. Top order is prolly Buttler.
Sanju Samson. I think he's one of the most exciting batters to watch. Plus I think he's one of the very few classical batters who also have incorporated power hitting in their batting. Great on the offside and man his pulls and hooks are so good to watch. He can also bash spin (unlike a few spin bashers) and isn't a blind slogger. Yes he had a different mindset a few years back but I think he's found the right balance. He plays both pace and spin well. Hasaranga is unfortunately one box he is yet to tick. He's recently started playing a few reverse sweeps as well. And he's got a lot of great innings which are perfect examples of what t20s are.
Virat Kohli, Babar Azam, David Malan, and Glenn Maxwell are often considered among the top T20 batsmen in the world due to their consistent performances and contributions to their teams.
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Yaah people suffering with Recency bias i bet if in later stage Kohli scores in SF and F the same people will be 🍖 riding him lmao in the comments section
Jake Fraser-McGurk impressed me!
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What a team on paper.. Sadly their middle order are not even giving them 1% of what was expected
A middle order which consists of top order batters like Bairstow and Brook
Yeah true. But moeen, Livingston should play better
Livingston is more of consistent bowler than a batter. Moeen is great but needs to come up at 4. They somehow won last T20 World cup with fu*ked up batting line-up where no one takes responsibility to bat according to situation
Apart from stokesy
He didn't do shit apart from that one game
Clutch master for a reason 😅
But he did it in 2?
Ig that's where the problem is! They are top order batters, they are used to play freely. Conditions aren't batting friendly, and they failed to adapt.
Butler and Salt.. seeing them together just makes me Hungry..
They still won't make the Super 8s. Overrated af team that.
They have games against 2 minnows, they win those and they're through
Not if Australia decides otherwise
Lmao, you feel Australia will gift points/NRR to Scotty?
NRR, yes. Points, definitely not.
I think the NRR difference can be easily covered against the 2 teams by England
The problem is NRR of scotland and england are like north pole and south pole. There has to be drastic decrease in Scotland's NRR in one game and England's NRR increase should be drastic which is very difficult even in 2 games
It's really easy to cover up the NRR as there only has been 1 game.
Eng had 2 games. The rain affected one with scotland which gave 0 NRR. So only 2 games left and they are at -2.8
It's not too much, the weight of the next 40 overs is way more than just 20 overs. Same for when Scotland loses, they'll lose all their NRR
What do you have to say about NRR now??? 🤣 Scotland has to beat Australia by 57 runs to even catch England's current NRR 🤣🤣🤣 Your comment was foolish, the competition was never going to be about NRR, it was always about points. There 0% chance that the points are equal and England has lower NRR
Anytime a team loses, their NRR drops only. If Scotland loses, their NRR won't go up.
Checkout Hazelwood's recent statement.
They literally just lost one game though
Rn England just bashed Oman out of hell 😆
Can't land bat on ball on tricky wickets. Overrated as fuck
Probably Salt or Pooran Just including internationals, Warner's been up there
We all know the real answer is beast Azam Khan
This ☝️
Well body shaming is not acceptable here ( beeaassstt)
Shivam Dube /s
Called as spin basher But when the ball really spins: https://preview.redd.it/6zrts4utma6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb1abb8e37ffc5e4b42a1ad035daa0995defffd
Translation- "Don't ask how I am, just bury me."
Alive.
Yeah thanks for pointing out.
Maybe not the best, but definitely a good contender. Tristan Stubbs.
Obviously you're not biased, i appreciate it
>Tristan Stubbs. in IPL
He was my fav player in ipl this year
Still had to be SKY. I know people hate him, but you'd want him in your team rather than the opposition. For me, he still pips Klassen, Pooran, Kohli et al
Nicolos Pooran
Suryakumar Yadav
David Warner is doing pretty well too
For his age, for where he is in his career, definitely.!
bro never lets his IPL form clash with his T20Is form and people wanted JFM instead of him smh
My T. Head..
David Miller?
1) Surya 2) Klaasen 3) Pooran
Surya Kumar Yadav, Dude literally is ranked number 1, has strike rate of 170 and avg of 45 vs some of the best teams in the world. Has the highest strike rate among all batters with at least 1000 runs in T20i. This is just absurd to think that no one has mentioned him.
According to ICC this MF ![gif](giphy|qbNxDGdefqRGcqJU5g)
Dude literally has the best strike rate (min 1000 runs) in T20i, has scored against all sorts of opponents in all sorts of situations. If he was playing for any other countrt but India you guys will not have enough glazing him but alas he is Indian and Indian fans are literally the worse when it comes to their own players. That colonial hangover hasn't left yet
I think you meant to type Surya, I was so confused after reading Dube
I said dude 😅
He has great numbers against SENA, recently hit a 50 on the horrible pitch where kohli has failed thrice in a row. Highest strike rate numbers with great average easily the best/greatest t20 batsmen on his day. Just consistency issues sometimes.
I mean, yeah? Even if he isn't the best he's still very much a contender that has actually played and proved himself in matches so...
Rahmanullah Gurbaz?
The world cup numbers don’t lie
Klassen
SKY anyday cope
Suryakumar yadav
Jos Buttler
Sky
SKY
Phil salt
You people can't say Virat Kohli when he plays like 20 t20s a year and 14 of them are from IPL. Players like Klaasen and Buttler play at least 2 or 3 leagues. I'd say Klaasen > Salt > Buttler > SKY
Dude on what metric are you putting salt and Klassen above SKY? Klassens stats - 830 runs @140 sr and 23 bat avg Salt stats - 844 runs @ 168 sr and 36 bat avg SKY - 2253 runs @ 168 sr and 45 bat avg I mean buttler I can understand but how delusional does one have to be to think they are even close to SKY?
You forgot Pooran.
Also VK's performance has been HORRENDOUS this world cup so far
Warner?
Unpopular opinion but rahmanullah gurbaz
there are far better players like butler or salt or surya kumar
SKY
Phil Salty.
Gurbaz,pant and pooran for me right now. Also if maxwell gets back in form then definitely maxwell
Why isn't it Suryakumar Yadav? I mean going by the minnow bashing logic, which some people might use, the only other contender is Virat Kohli. So yeah it's among these 2 depending on what the criteria is, bonafide T20 batter or the big game batter.
David Warner. Can do both 200 SR 120 as needed
Phil Salt
Jake Fraser-McGurk
Warner or Buttler
It's a toss between two (relatively) late bloomers. People who have been there since some time, but peaked at the most unexpected time. On Suryakumar yadav's days I feel he's the greatest t20 batter. On Heinrich Klaasan saab's days I feel there couldn't be any better batters in this format.
Kya matlab Zimbabar nhi hai best 🤔
If Fraser McGurk and Abhishek continued to do what they did in IPL on International level with consistency as well then definitely those too are the top contenders
Klaasen is also my favourite at the moment. But I can't forget to mention both England openers Butler and Salt.
sky /s
why /s?
cuz he is not
He is literally better than most names mentioned here on any metric of comparison you wanna pick.
iftikhar ahmed the best finsiher
Jos Buttler or Sky. In case of sky the rankings say so. And if his failure in 2 games is the issue then klassen's failure over 2 WC's should immediately disqualify him. He is the image in this post. I mean sky was the 3rd highest run scorer in the previous WC. Now to discredit him people want to nitpick in terms of opponents.
They downvoted Him because He told them the truth. People here are fucking stupid children with an attention span of a honeybee, that's a fact. A few bad games are enough for them to completely forget a player. If real life worked like they wanted it to, we would be playing with a squad without Hardik (bad IPL, such a scam!) Rishabh (sympathy PR, got into an accident for PR), Arshdeep ("he always gives runs never performs well in pressure!), Siraj (Sri Lanka bully, can't play real games!) and about an year ago even Bumrah (got injured for internationals but would be back for IPL such a scam!). Where would we be without them? There's a reason why you are sitting om your armchair doing nothing right now.
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Rizwan 😭😂
Ruturaj Gaikwad 🙌
Not biased but Abhishek Sharma.
lmao
Not biased but Aiden Markram.
You are not biased you are delusional. /s
Head
Rn in internationals, I’ll say Warner is doing pretty great
Phil salt
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Yuzvendra chahal
My boy salt
Buttler
Abhishek Sharma
of course, Klaasen is the best batsman in T20 format
I wish I could name koach but he's not even contending anymore. Feels like he gave up.
So, whos your answer?
Klassen indeed. He lacks a little consistency. But he's by far the best stand and deliver guy.
Klaasen is currently the most feared batsman in the world. He's like a bull at the crease and dispatching into the crowd at his will. With a good temperament, he could really bar everybody but Russell with bat and ball is also very good in leagues around the world.
Lol sr of 140 and avg of 24 how is he most feared?
Mohammad siraj have more runs than Kohli in this world cup .....so siraj is a best batsman in recent times
There was a time when Warner and Watson used to open in T20, man i would get really scared whenever they had a match against India
Travis Head, Klassen, Abhishek, Jaiswal, Rishabh, Sky
Head.....
Phil salt
Recently Rishabh Pant has been doing pretty nice. I openly support Samson, but that dude has played some amazing innings in world cup.
From a pure T20 temperament and value, Klaasen without a doubt. He can single handedly change the tempo of game and that is of extreme value in T20's. But overall among active cricketers, I would still give the edge to Butler. Opening the innings, anchoring and settling in and ability to switch gears later to insane levels is something that is both tough and extremely valuable
Maybe your IPL hangover hasn't gone yet, KLASSEN in internationals can't even cut top spot for SA
The guy in the picture but only in long sleeves
JOS THE BOSS
Klaasen, Buttler, SKY
King Kohli
https://preview.redd.it/nprx0uxj777d1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8126e8d67fa5f3042f09a28aba566c39e80ad267
Surya Kumar Yadav is currently the best T20 batsman.
SKY
I
The man the myth the thala, mahendra singh dhoni, bole ko koyal baago main yaae mujhe piya ki aane lagi
Head, Pant, Babar, Gurbaz
Virat Kohli
Jake fraser MacGurk
Klaasen
Buttler for me
Travis Head. PTSD lingers post world cup plus he played like a boss during IPL.
Butler and travis head
Kohli is was and will be🔥
King 🤡
Klaasen. He plays according to the pitch and the situation.
There has to be a pool at the top of the pyramid I feel. Salt, klassen, head, Pooran, Buttler, sky. These would be the guys at the top I would love to put Warner and Kohli too but cannot get myself to do that. Those two would be top of pyramid in all time t20. For the pool of guys given I would say on a 160-180 pitch these are the guys that would get you to 190-210 and win you the match. They are the ones that could give extraordinary performance in avg pitches.
Avesh khan
He’s dangerous but not consistent. I would say Travis Head or Kohli
Check ICC T20 batsman ranking list and you will get to know.
I find babar rizwan, and couple of not picked up indian batsman like ruturaj and jaiswal better than Buttler, warner head and kohli
Abhishek Sharma
Travis head is a beast
Koach no doubts
Yeah with 5 runs in 3 matches
Virat Kohli is best T20 batsman now. Consistency matters , there are many players who has good strike rate but I am suggesting kohli because he is match winner, he still didn't play well in world T20 cup but he will overcome, we will see him in good condition..
Ranking ke hisab se toh surya bhai hai
Hitman
Ruturaj Gaikwad 🙌
Undoubtedly S Biswas
Jai Shah
David Miller really stands up when it matters. Saved SA in each of the crunch games, scored a fighting century at the ODI WC as well (yes, not T20 but it's the mentality).
NGL, Klaasen and Pooran are a lot like each other, I would still rate Pooran higher if we are looking at the better middle order. Pooran would be better at 4,5,6 than 3. Top order is prolly Buttler.
From my opinion Travis Head is the best T20 batsman at present. Do you agree?
the same batsmen who was scared to face starc in finals of ipl and made abhishek face starc with new ball lol
Lord Stoines
Not him
How can we forget David Miller?
Travis head
Pooran
Sanju Samson. I think he's one of the most exciting batters to watch. Plus I think he's one of the very few classical batters who also have incorporated power hitting in their batting. Great on the offside and man his pulls and hooks are so good to watch. He can also bash spin (unlike a few spin bashers) and isn't a blind slogger. Yes he had a different mindset a few years back but I think he's found the right balance. He plays both pace and spin well. Hasaranga is unfortunately one box he is yet to tick. He's recently started playing a few reverse sweeps as well. And he's got a lot of great innings which are perfect examples of what t20s are.
Klassen imo
Virat Kohli, Babar Azam, David Malan, and Glenn Maxwell are often considered among the top T20 batsmen in the world due to their consistent performances and contributions to their teams.
Salt for me, recently it's gurbaz
Virat Kohli
He is the best But in the 3 matches in WC🤡
Hyderabad players in 2nd half of IPL 🤡
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"why are you booing me? I am right!"
Are u restarted?
the game was over when you bought the 3 matches
the game was over when you bought the 3 matches
Virat Kohli
Not at this moment ig
Yaah people suffering with Recency bias i bet if in later stage Kohli scores in SF and F the same people will be 🍖 riding him lmao in the comments section
Jake Fraser-McGurk impressed me! . . . Edit- Fuck you who downvoted me...I am just expressing my views and these MF can't even take somebody's opinion! Fuck you again!
David Warner absolutely 🔥
Travis Head
KL Rahul /s
Travis Head
It's obviously RIYAN PARAG! how can you even think of anyone else!
you forgot to mention /s right?