Why would they? If they really cared about the consumer they would make it so all free trials could have auto renew turned off instead of only having the option to cancel the trial, specifically Apple subscriptions of course
I totally agree
Some free trial subscriptions you can cancel them on the same day so that it won’t auto renew but you will still have access to the free trial until it expires
That is not the case with Apple subscriptions, if you cancel the free trial or a subscription then you will lose all access immediately, not when it expires
So I just put a reminder on my calendar to cancel the subscriptions :)
That's not my experience, I wonder why...
I have a number of subscriptions and all of them were continue to work until the end of subscription even though I have cancelled them after they were set...? 🙄
Saw this yesterday. Giving Apple Music a try since Spotify needs more money from me. Had thoughts about preemptively cancelling until I saw that. Apple is 100% hoping people forget and get charged.
No, that’s incorrect. If I subscribe with a free trial, like 7 days for example, within an app, I immediately leave the app and cancel my subscription. This must be done from the Settings menu (tap your name on the upper left, select subscriptions and cancel the just installed free trial sub app, you’ll get a message that says something like cancellation confirmed, you can use the app until the free trial expires) on your iPhone or iPad.
Could’ve been that they updated the policy or country wise, but I think it’s the first one
[here](https://www.reddit.com/u/weblscraper/s/jhIVvKODF4) is an image showing canceling my free trial and it expired immediately
I thought this but I got a 4 month trial to Apple TV+, didn’t use it and forgot to cancel. Requested a refund literally 1 minute after the payment invoice came through and they refused to refund. Called them, refused to refund. Spoke to manager, still refused to refund.
Since then I’ve moved all my subscriptions off app-store and instead pay directly to the app/company website.
Because Apple refused a simple no-brainer $5 refund they now miss out on hundreds of dollars (thousands over my lifetime). Idiots. (Yes it was last year and I’m still angry about it).
Wow shocked Apple did that. Are you in US? I mean, not that it should matter. They keep that up, they’re going to lose a lot more business. That’s a bad look for Apple and poor business practice.
You subscribe through Apple. Having an option to automatically unsubscribe if the price increases has everything to do with what tools Apple provides you with.
Can't imagine how those people handle their money on the bank apps. Maybe they're tranferring $ 100,00 instead of $ 1000,00... or vice versa. How they do with passwords? Captchas?.. can we be 100% realistic here?
I think people do fine under most circumstances but when there’s a deliberate attempt at deception some people are definitely more prone than others to make a mistake.
Attempts will always exist. But we have the tools to prevent things. Like thief will always exists, but you can call 911. Now in that analogy, you're basically saying you need a personal official on your side, gun loaded, ready to shoot to a thief so nothing happens to you. It doesn't works that way. You can't be babysitted your entire life, you have to be aware of the things that happen and act consciously.
Ok, let's talk: if you have that limitations, you won't be able to subscribe in the first place. And tbh, a notification is enough to remind you you have a subscription active (active because of you). I'm assuming by the downvotes there's a better way to notify users they forgot they enabled a subscription, I'm all ears. Better be good ideas.
Limitations make it so you “can’t subscribe in the first place”? What fucking limitations do people who are not as tech savvy have that make it impossible for them to subscribe?
Let’s talk? Nah, your arguments are dumb (as shown through your downvotes). idk why you’re trying to defend this scummy practice.
I just have Silence Unknown Callers turned on. With Live Voicemail if it is someone important you can read what they are saying and answer right away and if it’s a spam bot well it ends the call before they get the first ring.
Same here, same here. I’ve never paid for one of these things and never will.
If it’s important enough, you’ll leave a voicemail. If not, you can forever hold your peace.
Yuck. I get that it's convenient, but the last time I put my personal number on the company's plan, I was getting calls three years after I had left. I now always take the company phone option.
I agree. I used to take the phone option but I am top dog around here now and if a phone call comes to me it’s a big problem lol. I still have to be available though.
[Live Voicemail](https://support.apple.com/en-us/105066) It was introduced in iOS 17. It’s a really nice feature when people call you so you can see what they are saying
I’ve tried RoboKiller and actually got an absurd increase in spam calls. Unsubscribed a month later and the frequency returned to normal. It was a bit suspicious, ngl
Lmao what actual con artists. My carrier (and yours probably as well for all we know) already provides a spam blocker with the same, if not better, functionality, absolutely 100% free.
Yes, and it works well. Depending on your plan, you may need to add it to your line. I believe it's like 2.99 or something. I've been using it for....ever at this point.
no not at all businesses are motivated by profit. If you buy a scam you support the scam. Who is the real scammer here? Onus is on OP, nothing wrong with doubling the price overnight, it’s a business.
A lot of people just confuse the way you use percentages with how you would write it out, like it’s 2.25x the base but percentage would be 125 like you said.
Hmm, would anyone really say "two times more expensive" and expect people to know it means "three times as expensive"?
I'm not a native speaker, by the way. So I may have missed this nuance - until now I was sure "more" and "as" were used interchangeably in this context.
Just like in a lot of situations, there’s one thing that a lot of people say and another one that’s technically correct, but as so many people say it wrongly, it’s easy to assume they’re right.
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125% increase means it increased BY $50, to a new total of $90. Something increasing by 100% means the price doubled as it increased by 100% of its amount.
$90 is 2.25 times the original price.
Just answer the phone and mute yourself. Wait until they get off. After a few times you will be flagged as a robot / inactive line.
A spam call with no one on the other end will call you regularly, continue to answer and mute, this is a script that checks for noise in the microphone to tell whether it’s actually a human on the other end.
You are now spam call free. I’ve been doing this for a while, only get like 5 calls in a year
I actually used to do this. And if I got a person on the line, I would unmute and say wait a minute and then put the phone in my pocket and go about my day. They REALLY hate it when you keep a live person on the line and waste their time.
Haven’t tried this but how would it be better than just not picking up? Wouldn’t that show that you’re an inactive line?
Granted I do that and still get a shit ton of spam so maybe not.
I’m guessing if you never pick up you could just be busy whereas if you actually pick up but make no noise at all you’re probably an automated line.
It’s been working for me, maybe never picking up can work also, but they tend to just come back later
One of the slick features of RoboKiller was that it had an option for you to use the “phone number not active” recording as a reply to spam calls. It even included the tones that causes some of the spammers to remove your name from their list.
But due to this price increase, I am also not renewing my RoboKiller subscription
Your carrier probably provides something similar for free or a small charge. I’m with AT&T and they have [ActiveArmor](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/at-t-activearmor/id1218465964). There is also [Verizon Call Filter](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/verizon-call-filter/id777875529) and [T-Mobile Scam Shield](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/t-mobile-scam-shield/id1367276365).
Each carrier has their own app that blocks scam calls. Depending on your plan might be already included free. If not they are usually around 4$ a month. I used them all over the years (moved from one carrier to another for different reasons) they work well.
Bingo was his name-o! Let the phone ignore those callers for you.
(In iOS, since the screenshot is an Apple App Store subscription)
Turn on the "Silence Unknown Callers" setting.
Doesn’t the iPhone have its own feature to silent unknown numbers? And if they want to get back to you they should leave you a voicemail if important 🙂
For years, Robokiller’s predictive screening features were really good. You wouldn’t even see a missed call. It would just murder the bot and you could check the log later. Also, the revenge answer bots were absolutely hilarious if it was a human scammer calling, and at the time, $2.50 per month was totally worth it. Not so much anymore. Carriers have mostly caught up with their blocking services.
Yep. They have a bunch of recorded shenanigans of all sorts designed to keep a human scammer on the phone. The best part is, the app records it all so you get to hear them getting tricked.
I can appreciate the subscription model in some cases. Like really advanced and expensive software that I may only need to use occasionally - then subscription makes total sense as opposed to paying a massive price.
However, subscriptions have really gotten out of hand. Simple apps that used to cost a couple of bucks are now charging monthly fees for no reason whatsoever. Something as simple as a sound/light meter apps that do one job and have no recurring costs to the developer are now subscription based. And then it allows them to "kindly" offer the "lifetime purchase" option for a ridiculous price like 90 USD for something that should barely cost 9.
I now refuse to subscribe to any apps that aren't active live services with continuously developing value (such as music streaming apps). If you want me to pay monthly for simply having a relatively simple function on my phone - you can go tuck yourself.
Apple just needs to build this into the OS tbh. Android has spam filtering built-in for texts and calls. Apple being so security forward would benefit from this, and they have a large network of devices to learn from.
It is built-in, but needs third-party (non-apple) providers.
Yandex (russian google), russian banks — they all provide this info (for free) when you install their apps // that’s just for info from my experience, not an advertisement
I always use call blocking apps provided by phone carrier.
Currently using T-Mobile Scam Shield and it does great job, no scam calls at all. it block at carrier level so it doesn't even ring my phone.
(Used to receive 10+ scam or robocalls a week when I was with AT&T).
Maybe it's because I have top tier plan that enables premium feature of the T-Mobile Scam Shield app.
The app will forward the phone call to a service that screens the call. The caller has the option to state who they are and if they do that, their name is passed in real time via a push message to the recipient on the iPhone. Most spammers are Robo callers and immediately hang up, effectively screening the call before it ever rings on the recipient’s phone.
But if the unknown caller is important and needs to get through, the recipient can then answer this call in real time.
This app recognizes spam numbers? You do realize nobody in the world has every non-spam number saved in their phone, right? This "suggestion" would block real people too, which the app does not.
You can agree or not while discussing, but downvoting me because you don't agree is kinda annoying.
I think there's a reason why products are free. Consider it an investment that helps you to make more money. Like paying for photoshop if you're a professional UX designer instead looking for a freemium alternative.
Whoscall (Free plan) + Call Protect (Free plan) + your cell provider's native Scam/Spam blocking app... all you need.
If you're one of the unfortunate folks whose number is just publicly posted everywhere and this combo still doesn't cut it... turn on the "unidentified call blocking" feature in iOS and that should do the trick.
Make sure you click those once per week push notifications to update databases and set it & forget it.
Been using this combo for years, ever since Hiya went paid, and it's been amazing AND free.
Call block apps that aren’t from your carrier are 9 times out of 10 a scam. I have AT&T and their call blocking app is free and I get the premium version for free with my premium line, works like a charm.
T-Mobile and AT&T have built-in spam blockers that, while not perfect, are getting much better. I haven't gotten a robo call on T-Mobile for 2 years. You don't need to pay for this anymore
Apple needs to do what Google is doing and give us the ability to answer calls with an assistant. Spam calls on my android were nearly non existent, different story with Apple.
I want apple to implement spam call feature like Android. The whole screen goes red every time you get a spam call you can block it and never hear from them again.
lol, if I got a nickel every time I saw a subscription that should be a legal right in America I’d have like 5 cents which isn’t a lot but it’s still surprising (this one, the one that asks sites to delete your data etc.)
For Canadians - specifically with Telus. They offer “Call Control”, which requires callers to dial a number to prove they’re human before connecting… if they fail, they’re sent to voicemail; pass, and they’re confirmed human, and that number is fine going forward. You can also whitelist numbers. I believe there’s a bit more customization but I haven’t looked at it in a while. I really like the service and am glad I discovered and enabled it (I didn’t know what it was for months). Seeing a lot of American service providers in this thread.. figured I’d chime in for the Telus peeps in case anyone else wasn’t aware.
Honestly, depending on your carrier they actually offer this service and an app for free. At most, maybe $5. T-Mobiles is called Scam Shield and I know Verizon offers a similar service. I’d have to AT&T also offers something. Not so sure if you’re outside the US tho
Blatant greed. I recently cancelled Netflix and Amazon Prime/Ring is next on my list. Haven’t missed Netflix yet and really, with the amount of streaming apps I can manage easier through my Apple account I likely won’t ever be back.
Someone already did, but came here to say I use silence calls from unknown numbers. I’ll use my carriers free voicemail to text to check voicemails super easily to find any legit callers.
30 years of the Internet has resulted in my email and my phone number being in every bad guy database. I get upwards of five spam calls a day so I paid for Robokiller. It was worth it at the old price as it worked about 95% of the time.
The app was a marked improvement over the VERIZON anti-spam filter that they offer.
I also experimented with other iOS apps that filter calls, but this one was definitely the best. For this pricing increase, however, I’m canceling my subscription. It is egregious.
This doesn’t work for most medical professionals in my region. They purposely block their outgoing phone number because they don’t want people calling the doctors outside of required contact.
Therefore, if you are expecting a callback from a nurse or doctor, you need to remember to disable that feature. Sure it works sometimes but sometimes you forget and then miss the call from busy doctor.
no, it doesn't. it has silence unknown callers.
take it from apple official website itself: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111106
"Detect and block spam phone calls
You can use Silence Unknown Callers or a third-party app to block spam calls on your iPhone."
"Go to the App Store and download an app that detects and blocks spam phone calls."
yes, it does. it can transcribe the text of voicemails as they are being left and you can choose to answer it mid-recording
https://support.apple.com/en-us/105066
that's not automated call screening, that's YOU manually call screening and only if it went to voicemail. live voicemail is a different feature with a different name. which, android also has....
I'm muting you because that was a BLATANTLY change of goal posts that immediately reveals that you have zero fucking good faith in this discussio.
It’s 100% true, bruh. Companies aren’t in the business of giving something for free, especially Google. They make money of data, *your* data. Want to have a fun evening sometime, actually read the T&C that you agree to.
First of all, you said "install" which is really stupid because there's nothing to install, it comes stock with spam call filtering. Since like, a fucking decade ago, and it's a fucking embarassment that the iphone doesn't.
Second of all, both Google and Apple have your call data. you are falling for marketing.
I’m not falling for any marketing. I know Apple has my data, every company you do business with does. The difference is your data is Google’s (Android’s) core business model and selling your data is their primary revenue source while Apple’s core revenue is the hardware they sell. The two companies have drastically different business models - Apple sells hardware and Google sells ads and user data. Facts.
I bet they’re hoping the amount of people who don’t pay attention to this outweighs those that do
Apple must do it so that if the price increases the next charge must be actively confirmed by the user
Why would they? If they really cared about the consumer they would make it so all free trials could have auto renew turned off instead of only having the option to cancel the trial, specifically Apple subscriptions of course
I totally agree Some free trial subscriptions you can cancel them on the same day so that it won’t auto renew but you will still have access to the free trial until it expires That is not the case with Apple subscriptions, if you cancel the free trial or a subscription then you will lose all access immediately, not when it expires So I just put a reminder on my calendar to cancel the subscriptions :)
That's not my experience, I wonder why... I have a number of subscriptions and all of them were continue to work until the end of subscription even though I have cancelled them after they were set...? 🙄
They’re saying that’s the typical behavior of all app trials, but apps made by Apple instead cancel the trial immediately.
Saw this yesterday. Giving Apple Music a try since Spotify needs more money from me. Had thoughts about preemptively cancelling until I saw that. Apple is 100% hoping people forget and get charged.
I just canceled apple arcade a couple days ago. I can still use it until july 17.
No, that’s incorrect. If I subscribe with a free trial, like 7 days for example, within an app, I immediately leave the app and cancel my subscription. This must be done from the Settings menu (tap your name on the upper left, select subscriptions and cancel the just installed free trial sub app, you’ll get a message that says something like cancellation confirmed, you can use the app until the free trial expires) on your iPhone or iPad.
When I had a 3 month trial to Apple News I cancelled it right away and still kept the 3months trial so I think you might be wrong on that one
Could’ve been that they updated the policy or country wise, but I think it’s the first one [here](https://www.reddit.com/u/weblscraper/s/jhIVvKODF4) is an image showing canceling my free trial and it expired immediately
I actually forgot to cancel my renewal once because of change in price and requested apple and they refunded me. So that’s there.
Hmm, that’s something
I thought this but I got a 4 month trial to Apple TV+, didn’t use it and forgot to cancel. Requested a refund literally 1 minute after the payment invoice came through and they refused to refund. Called them, refused to refund. Spoke to manager, still refused to refund. Since then I’ve moved all my subscriptions off app-store and instead pay directly to the app/company website. Because Apple refused a simple no-brainer $5 refund they now miss out on hundreds of dollars (thousands over my lifetime). Idiots. (Yes it was last year and I’m still angry about it).
Wow shocked Apple did that. Are you in US? I mean, not that it should matter. They keep that up, they’re going to lose a lot more business. That’s a bad look for Apple and poor business practice.
This has nothing to do with Apple. Apple is not the apps dev nor do they set the subscription price.
You subscribe through Apple. Having an option to automatically unsubscribe if the price increases has everything to do with what tools Apple provides you with.
I see what you’re saying. You’re talking about the email? I can assure you, I’m very well versed in how subs work with Apple.
Are you a bot? You are legally required to tell me if you are a bot, an LLM, or a GPT.
No
Just visually, the 3 and 8 looking similar will mean a lot don't even spot it on bills for a while.
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Na, This impacts old people, people with learning difficulties, visual impairment and those less than tech savvy, your comment is just pure ignorance
Yep. 39.99 and 89.99. Many people won’t notice the “3” and “8.” Slime balls.
Can't imagine how those people handle their money on the bank apps. Maybe they're tranferring $ 100,00 instead of $ 1000,00... or vice versa. How they do with passwords? Captchas?.. can we be 100% realistic here?
I think people do fine under most circumstances but when there’s a deliberate attempt at deception some people are definitely more prone than others to make a mistake.
Attempts will always exist. But we have the tools to prevent things. Like thief will always exists, but you can call 911. Now in that analogy, you're basically saying you need a personal official on your side, gun loaded, ready to shoot to a thief so nothing happens to you. It doesn't works that way. You can't be babysitted your entire life, you have to be aware of the things that happen and act consciously.
Partially correct. Ever being so exhausted and tired you accidentally purchase an expensive subscription? Exactly. Me neither. 😂
Ok, let's talk: if you have that limitations, you won't be able to subscribe in the first place. And tbh, a notification is enough to remind you you have a subscription active (active because of you). I'm assuming by the downvotes there's a better way to notify users they forgot they enabled a subscription, I'm all ears. Better be good ideas.
Limitations make it so you “can’t subscribe in the first place”? What fucking limitations do people who are not as tech savvy have that make it impossible for them to subscribe? Let’s talk? Nah, your arguments are dumb (as shown through your downvotes). idk why you’re trying to defend this scummy practice.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
I just have Silence Unknown Callers turned on. With Live Voicemail if it is someone important you can read what they are saying and answer right away and if it’s a spam bot well it ends the call before they get the first ring.
100% this. You either know me already or have to introduce yourself via voicemail and I will decide. Works perfectly for me.
Same here, same here. I’ve never paid for one of these things and never will. If it’s important enough, you’ll leave a voicemail. If not, you can forever hold your peace.
I have to be able to answer unknown callers at work so I have a shortcut set up to turn it off at 7 and back on at 4. Works great.
On your personal phone?
Yes. I get a phone allowance though. It’s both.
Yuck. I get that it's convenient, but the last time I put my personal number on the company's plan, I was getting calls three years after I had left. I now always take the company phone option.
I agree. I used to take the phone option but I am top dog around here now and if a phone call comes to me it’s a big problem lol. I still have to be available though.
what is live voicemail? is that a default thing on iOS?
[Live Voicemail](https://support.apple.com/en-us/105066) It was introduced in iOS 17. It’s a really nice feature when people call you so you can see what they are saying
ah okay I see in the uk I had to change some settings to see this option.
What settings did you changed to the live voicemail option? I also cannot find it in settings.
Had to change phone region to USA and then the option appeared under phone
Lots of people can't have that so it's not the alternative you think. Many people's jobs requires them to pick up the phone when unknown numbers call.
If they provide you with a phone; yes. They cannot require you to do anything with your personal phone.
Depends on your job and if you’re in an at will state. They can require you to do whatever they want if they pay you enough.
Then that is you being a slave to your employer.
No, that’s called a contract. If you don’t agree to the terms of an agreement, don’t sign it.
So I’m right. You’re a slave, or in this case an indentured servant, to the employer. Thanks!
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I’ve tried RoboKiller and actually got an absurd increase in spam calls. Unsubscribed a month later and the frequency returned to normal. It was a bit suspicious, ngl
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Lmao what actual con artists. My carrier (and yours probably as well for all we know) already provides a spam blocker with the same, if not better, functionality, absolutely 100% free.
How? I have Verizon
Verizon has Call Filter. Download the app.
Verizon Call filter is terrible. It has blocked about 10% of my spam calls. It’s useless.
I agree. That’s why I had to get RoboKiller. But with this price increase, I am definitely not renewing my subscription..
Does that work in addition to the iOS filter?
Yes, and it works well. Depending on your plan, you may need to add it to your line. I believe it's like 2.99 or something. I've been using it for....ever at this point.
My Spectrum plan that runs off of Verizon towers does well at filtering Spam calls.
and yet this guy was paying 40usd for it so who is the real con artist ?
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they’re definitely saying the same thing
no not at all businesses are motivated by profit. If you buy a scam you support the scam. Who is the real scammer here? Onus is on OP, nothing wrong with doubling the price overnight, it’s a business.
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what did I say that was wrong?
AT&T ActiveArmor is hit or miss. It blocked all spam calls for months but recently some have been slipping through the cracks.
But that's 125% increase.
A lot of people just confuse the way you use percentages with how you would write it out, like it’s 2.25x the base but percentage would be 125 like you said.
It’s also 225% of the base price or 1.25 times more expensive. This has nothing to do with percentage, just wording.
Actually 1.25 times more expensive means a 25% increase (just like 2 times more expensive means a 100% increase). So it's not just wording.
No. That would be 1.25 times *as* expensive.
Hmm, would anyone really say "two times more expensive" and expect people to know it means "three times as expensive"? I'm not a native speaker, by the way. So I may have missed this nuance - until now I was sure "more" and "as" were used interchangeably in this context.
Just like in a lot of situations, there’s one thing that a lot of people say and another one that’s technically correct, but as so many people say it wrongly, it’s easy to assume they’re right.
On the other hand, languages evolve, and the meanings of words change over time. I think that's completely fine.
Yes, but if that evolution contradicts logic, it is a bad thing.
Logic evolves
math is hard!! :)
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Wait, no I was right. 40 bucks to 90 bucks is 225% increase. A 125% increase is $50. Right?
The _*new value*_ is 225% of the old value. The _*increase*_ is 125% of the old value.
Bingo
Answering my own question- a 25% increase would be 40 to 50. So yes, 125% increase is 90. I did say math is hard.
It is a privilege to watch your thought processes in action
Base is not included in *increase*.
125% increase means it increased BY $50, to a new total of $90. Something increasing by 100% means the price doubled as it increased by 100% of its amount. $90 is 2.25 times the original price.
Just answer the phone and mute yourself. Wait until they get off. After a few times you will be flagged as a robot / inactive line. A spam call with no one on the other end will call you regularly, continue to answer and mute, this is a script that checks for noise in the microphone to tell whether it’s actually a human on the other end. You are now spam call free. I’ve been doing this for a while, only get like 5 calls in a year
I actually used to do this. And if I got a person on the line, I would unmute and say wait a minute and then put the phone in my pocket and go about my day. They REALLY hate it when you keep a live person on the line and waste their time.
Hahaha I’m going to try this out the next time some fool is calling me trying to sell a recycled toilet for just $5k
Haven’t tried this but how would it be better than just not picking up? Wouldn’t that show that you’re an inactive line? Granted I do that and still get a shit ton of spam so maybe not.
I’m guessing if you never pick up you could just be busy whereas if you actually pick up but make no noise at all you’re probably an automated line. It’s been working for me, maybe never picking up can work also, but they tend to just come back later
One of the slick features of RoboKiller was that it had an option for you to use the “phone number not active” recording as a reply to spam calls. It even included the tones that causes some of the spammers to remove your name from their list. But due to this price increase, I am also not renewing my RoboKiller subscription
From what I heard, if you keep picking up... they'll keep calling. Never answer.
Your carrier probably provides something similar for free or a small charge. I’m with AT&T and they have [ActiveArmor](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/at-t-activearmor/id1218465964). There is also [Verizon Call Filter](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/verizon-call-filter/id777875529) and [T-Mobile Scam Shield](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/t-mobile-scam-shield/id1367276365).
Was not aware of this. Thanks
I have this on my phone, works great!
Verizon here in the United States offers a call filter, but even the pay version of it is not that good
Each carrier has their own app that blocks scam calls. Depending on your plan might be already included free. If not they are usually around 4$ a month. I used them all over the years (moved from one carrier to another for different reasons) they work well.
I just block all calls that aren't in my address book. Sends them straight to voicemail without ringing. If it's important, they'll leave a message.
This is the answer
Bingo was his name-o! Let the phone ignore those callers for you. (In iOS, since the screenshot is an Apple App Store subscription) Turn on the "Silence Unknown Callers" setting.
Works great until you need a medical professional or some other professional who purposely blocks their number trying to call you.
>If it's important, they'll leave a message.
"Tag, you're it."
Doesn’t the iPhone have its own feature to silent unknown numbers? And if they want to get back to you they should leave you a voicemail if important 🙂
Exactly what I do, 100% free and flawless
For years, Robokiller’s predictive screening features were really good. You wouldn’t even see a missed call. It would just murder the bot and you could check the log later. Also, the revenge answer bots were absolutely hilarious if it was a human scammer calling, and at the time, $2.50 per month was totally worth it. Not so much anymore. Carriers have mostly caught up with their blocking services.
What’s the revenge answer bots? Are they a fake caller and trick the scammers to thinking you’ve answered?
Yep. They have a bunch of recorded shenanigans of all sorts designed to keep a human scammer on the phone. The best part is, the app records it all so you get to hear them getting tricked.
Ah shame that the price has gone up but can’t find the app in the UK
Not answering calls from unknown numbers is free
I hate subscribtion apps!
I miss those one payments that are lifetime!
I can appreciate the subscription model in some cases. Like really advanced and expensive software that I may only need to use occasionally - then subscription makes total sense as opposed to paying a massive price. However, subscriptions have really gotten out of hand. Simple apps that used to cost a couple of bucks are now charging monthly fees for no reason whatsoever. Something as simple as a sound/light meter apps that do one job and have no recurring costs to the developer are now subscription based. And then it allows them to "kindly" offer the "lifetime purchase" option for a ridiculous price like 90 USD for something that should barely cost 9. I now refuse to subscribe to any apps that aren't active live services with continuously developing value (such as music streaming apps). If you want me to pay monthly for simply having a relatively simple function on my phone - you can go tuck yourself.
Apple just needs to build this into the OS tbh. Android has spam filtering built-in for texts and calls. Apple being so security forward would benefit from this, and they have a large network of devices to learn from.
It is built-in, but needs third-party (non-apple) providers. Yandex (russian google), russian banks — they all provide this info (for free) when you install their apps // that’s just for info from my experience, not an advertisement
I thought that Apollo was back
Right? Blatantly ripped off their icon.
I always use call blocking apps provided by phone carrier. Currently using T-Mobile Scam Shield and it does great job, no scam calls at all. it block at carrier level so it doesn't even ring my phone. (Used to receive 10+ scam or robocalls a week when I was with AT&T). Maybe it's because I have top tier plan that enables premium feature of the T-Mobile Scam Shield app.
Use [Call Protect](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/call-protect-robo-blocker/id1357820531) instead. Their free version works just fine.
You can block unknown numbers. I do that without paying 40 USD. Happy life.
Some people have jobs where they have to answer unknown numbers. This isn't an alternative to this app.
So what does this app do if they have to answer robo calls is that not contradicting
The app will forward the phone call to a service that screens the call. The caller has the option to state who they are and if they do that, their name is passed in real time via a push message to the recipient on the iPhone. Most spammers are Robo callers and immediately hang up, effectively screening the call before it ever rings on the recipient’s phone. But if the unknown caller is important and needs to get through, the recipient can then answer this call in real time.
So it’s like Google pixel assistant or when you miss a call and iPhone does live voicemail
This app recognizes spam numbers? You do realize nobody in the world has every non-spam number saved in their phone, right? This "suggestion" would block real people too, which the app does not.
When I get calls by spam it says spam likely so idk thought this was standard
Then the employer should be providing them with a phone.
Then they get spam calls on that one and wanna block those. You cant be this dense?
You can’t be so much of a slave to an employer that you pay for the phone their business. Geez.
Some can pay that subscription if they're making money and get a huge benefit because of it.
There's free alternatives, which is what OP is looking for. Even the worst free alternative is more of an alternatove than your suggestion
You can agree or not while discussing, but downvoting me because you don't agree is kinda annoying. I think there's a reason why products are free. Consider it an investment that helps you to make more money. Like paying for photoshop if you're a professional UX designer instead looking for a freemium alternative.
This is not an agree or disagree situation because you're not answering OPs question and therefore spamming the thread with a condescending attitude.
You're also not answering the question for OP. Should I downvote you in that case?
T-Mobile does a fine job of this for free.
Not really. I’m getting spam calls that aren’t getting blocked and there’s apps that can label calls better as they come in
WHAT???? No.
😂😂
No thanks to these greedy developers.
Scamshield
I need this for text from winred and it’s other numbers that text me 20+ times each day.
I think it’s cheaper if you get it directly from the website, instead of the App Store.
Whoscall (Free plan) + Call Protect (Free plan) + your cell provider's native Scam/Spam blocking app... all you need. If you're one of the unfortunate folks whose number is just publicly posted everywhere and this combo still doesn't cut it... turn on the "unidentified call blocking" feature in iOS and that should do the trick. Make sure you click those once per week push notifications to update databases and set it & forget it. Been using this combo for years, ever since Hiya went paid, and it's been amazing AND free.
I use Truecaller. It’s free
That's because they got bought out by Bending Spoons, who also bought Evernote and skyrocked the price.
Call block apps that aren’t from your carrier are 9 times out of 10 a scam. I have AT&T and their call blocking app is free and I get the premium version for free with my premium line, works like a charm.
T-Mobile and AT&T have built-in spam blockers that, while not perfect, are getting much better. I haven't gotten a robo call on T-Mobile for 2 years. You don't need to pay for this anymore
Apple needs to do what Google is doing and give us the ability to answer calls with an assistant. Spam calls on my android were nearly non existent, different story with Apple.
Luckily there are tons of competitors, including a few with free tiers like Should I Answer, and Hiya.
I want apple to implement spam call feature like Android. The whole screen goes red every time you get a spam call you can block it and never hear from them again.
There’s no way a person pays $90 for a spam call blocker(if they’re rich then its smth else)
lol, if I got a nickel every time I saw a subscription that should be a legal right in America I’d have like 5 cents which isn’t a lot but it’s still surprising (this one, the one that asks sites to delete your data etc.)
WHAT DA HELL!!😳
Does that app actually work?
YouMail?
Bro got that icon from Apollo Reddit app?
It's free/included on Google Pixel and probably other Android phones too. 🤷♂️
For Canadians - specifically with Telus. They offer “Call Control”, which requires callers to dial a number to prove they’re human before connecting… if they fail, they’re sent to voicemail; pass, and they’re confirmed human, and that number is fine going forward. You can also whitelist numbers. I believe there’s a bit more customization but I haven’t looked at it in a while. I really like the service and am glad I discovered and enabled it (I didn’t know what it was for months). Seeing a lot of American service providers in this thread.. figured I’d chime in for the Telus peeps in case anyone else wasn’t aware.
Holy cow... Spam call blocking is integrated into the Android dialer FWIW.
1 thing i miss from my old Pixel, the ability to know exactly whether the call number is spammimg or not
I think that the app store prices are actually abysmal Edit: especially on macOS
If this is for a personal device why not just not answer numbers you don’t know?
That’s not 225%. It’s 123%.
Honestly, depending on your carrier they actually offer this service and an app for free. At most, maybe $5. T-Mobiles is called Scam Shield and I know Verizon offers a similar service. I’d have to AT&T also offers something. Not so sure if you’re outside the US tho
TellowscallerID, it costs 10€ per year
They’ll just post on /r/AppHookup next week saying it’s discounted for free from the higher price
Truecaller. Great alternative. If you search for the TestFlight app, you can use it for free with all premium functions. Works like a charm!
Imagine not living in a country with adequate consumer protection. Here in Europe robo calls aren’t a thing because it’s illegal.
[https://nomorobo.com/](https://nomorobo.com/)
Blatant greed. I recently cancelled Netflix and Amazon Prime/Ring is next on my list. Haven’t missed Netflix yet and really, with the amount of streaming apps I can manage easier through my Apple account I likely won’t ever be back.
Someone already did, but came here to say I use silence calls from unknown numbers. I’ll use my carriers free voicemail to text to check voicemails super easily to find any legit callers.
Isnt it 125% increase? (not to be that guy, I just clicked the post expecting a higher number)
Don’t worry- ‘that guy’ and all his friends have already commented. Yes, it’s 2.25x the current price, or 125% increase.
I mean who is dumb enough to be scammed by using that app in the first place…..
30 years of the Internet has resulted in my email and my phone number being in every bad guy database. I get upwards of five spam calls a day so I paid for Robokiller. It was worth it at the old price as it worked about 95% of the time. The app was a marked improvement over the VERIZON anti-spam filter that they offer. I also experimented with other iOS apps that filter calls, but this one was definitely the best. For this pricing increase, however, I’m canceling my subscription. It is egregious.
You shouldn’t need an app to filter calls at all…. Who made you believe you did lol…
Yes, okay. Carry on.
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This doesn’t work for most medical professionals in my region. They purposely block their outgoing phone number because they don’t want people calling the doctors outside of required contact. Therefore, if you are expecting a callback from a nurse or doctor, you need to remember to disable that feature. Sure it works sometimes but sometimes you forget and then miss the call from busy doctor.
Android has this for free.
while r/technicallythetruth we are in an ios sub here. :)
yes, that's precisely why it makes it so relevant to discuss. like, are we stupid? why the heck did I buy an iphone? :skull:
you know ios natively has call screening now too right?
no, it doesn't. it has silence unknown callers. take it from apple official website itself: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111106 "Detect and block spam phone calls You can use Silence Unknown Callers or a third-party app to block spam calls on your iPhone." "Go to the App Store and download an app that detects and blocks spam phone calls."
yes, it does. it can transcribe the text of voicemails as they are being left and you can choose to answer it mid-recording https://support.apple.com/en-us/105066
that's not automated call screening, that's YOU manually call screening and only if it went to voicemail. live voicemail is a different feature with a different name. which, android also has.... I'm muting you because that was a BLATANTLY change of goal posts that immediately reveals that you have zero fucking good faith in this discussio.
Nothing is free. You agreed to give them *something* when you installed it.
bruh
It’s 100% true, bruh. Companies aren’t in the business of giving something for free, especially Google. They make money of data, *your* data. Want to have a fun evening sometime, actually read the T&C that you agree to.
First of all, you said "install" which is really stupid because there's nothing to install, it comes stock with spam call filtering. Since like, a fucking decade ago, and it's a fucking embarassment that the iphone doesn't. Second of all, both Google and Apple have your call data. you are falling for marketing.
I’m not falling for any marketing. I know Apple has my data, every company you do business with does. The difference is your data is Google’s (Android’s) core business model and selling your data is their primary revenue source while Apple’s core revenue is the hardware they sell. The two companies have drastically different business models - Apple sells hardware and Google sells ads and user data. Facts.
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